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With all these sandals with folks complaining sexy female characters, I !ight as well and play shit safe and drop drawing girls.
it's mainly because I wanna avoid people calling me a internalized sexist for drawing cheesecake. I know, should have gone past that but I'm paranoid very very paranoid. I don't wanna get doxxed for drawing anime tiddie.
I'm not gonna stop drawing female characters but I'm not gonna include them in porn anymore for the foreseeable future until this shit dies down.
Only issue is that I suck at drawing beefy men. Skinny guys I'm good at but men with muscles i suck at.
(The harpy isn't a girl btw, I couldn't find a good enough pic of beefcake...soooo)
keep drawing what you like, you shouldn't let the words of others, especially that crowd, put you down, even kim jung gi got called out as such and that's never stopped him.
>>3896598 >even kim jung gi got called out as such and that's never stopped him
because he's kim jung gi
>>3892095 >Quit drawing over sexualized females because doxx and outrage >Starts drawing over sexualized men because it's okay
Not trying to nitpick or say that you're doing this OP, but state my opinion about the subject.
As a female in this world I think it's entirely unfair to return misongyny with misandry. Media and the world and people will devour you if you objectify women now, but if men are objectified it's praised and used as comedy. I know it's coping for years of that happening to women but it's still not right and it really bothers me. I would like do do something about it but I am pretty powerless except for any outlet I have to say that they're both wrong. I am embarrassed as a women to see other women doing this to men. It really pains me to see the degradation of both gender's sexualities due to absence of understanding. I'm truly sorry men. Women you know better than anyone how it feels. Step up and live with honor.
/end soap box
Why is it whenever I doodle something I don't give a shit about, I excel where I struggle with shit I do care about.
Like if I'm drawing on a bar napkin I can fuckin nail all of my normally weak traits. Light source established, facial anatomy on point, foreshortening fucken dealt wiv. Anyone else get that? What's the cure?
>pic unrelated I just really like Ashley wood
Katana propaganda REEE
>thats how protagonist is unique >jk
>>3889569 >“I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.”
anime dialogue is so cringe oof yikes
>>3889569 >I struggle with shit I do care about
you get extra self critical when you do something you care about. This kind of disappears when it's 12am and I'm at peace with myself. These hours are when I'm most focused. The downside is I'm always sleep deprived. If anyone knows how to turn of the self-critic within, let me know
ITT post bad art for laughs
now that's a man who did his loomis
Someone post THAT
I hope this is me some day
This is my favourite of bad art and no, i am not the artist.
What would the dead artists like da Vinci, Picasso, Michelangelo, Rembrandt etc think about digital painting? Do you think they would have a snobby attitude about it and say it's not "real art"?
They'd probably love that doing studies would mean they would not waste materials for study before painting.
>>3897229 >Rembrandt would ask if theres a colour darker than 000 on the colour wheel and hate it when you say no.
Made me burst out laughing while at work, you made my day better.
Had they been born today they wouldn't have any contribution to Art so their opinion wouldn't matter. But if you brought them back to life and showed them digital, they would be impressed by the technology but be disgusted by the art created with it since most people have a hard time accepting something they didn't grow up with
They think the same as their ancestors considering that they painted with charcoal in a cave.
>No rules >>3897202
All of them
They'd actually produce digital masterpieces instead of doing fancy concept art.
How is it possible that I know exactly what I want to draw, but when I try to actually draw the resulting work looks nothing like what I want? What is the science behind this phenomenon? It's like wanting to get a bowl from the kitchen cupboard but ending up in the garden holding a plant pot. I can't understand how this is happening unless someone has dementia?
Train your muscles by doing line exercises, nigga. Drawing is very much a physical act that requires finesse. It's a skill that takes literal years to master. Your brain is also probably filling the gaps of your imagination to give you a fuller picture than what you really know. Human memory isn't infallible, it does a lot of different tricks to adapt to your day to day life. Like this anon said,
your brain is trying it's best.
Because you're mind doesn't work like a camera. Memory or imagination which are basically the same thing, is just bullet points. You are not actually seeing the thing in your mind, you are seeing a list of things you want to include and your brain draws a model that is extremely blurry and vague. The more talented an artist you are, the better you are at filling in the gaps. When you're great, you can draw on autopilot. You can zone out and still draw something realistic as an automatic process without consciously visualizing what you want because your muscle memory knows the rules of a realistic balanced drawing. I've read a few neuroscience books recently. I think on intelligence by Jeff Hawkins and another book I can't remember the title, by Mariano Sigmund are where I read about this.
You two aren’t wrong that there’s a physical aspect to art, but draftsmanship alone will get you nowhere when it comes to drawing from imagination. Nobody here is so /beg/ that they couldn’t trace over a prexisting image with some degree of accuracy, so the ability to move the pencil well enough to describe a recognizable image is not the issue.
has the right idea, it’s that what you’re seeing in your minds eye is actually extremely hazy no matter how clear it seems when you flash the image in your head. Try closing your eyes and holding the image in place, then rotate around it, zoom in on details, etc. chances are it changes wildly or completely falls apart. Visualizing is a skill in itself that needs practice, and drawing from imagination is a great way to reinforce it. Think of it like taking tests your whole life without ever getting a grade, your brain picks up the slack for what you couldn’t deliberately imagine and makes scenes seem whole even when they aren’t, you don’t know how bad you actually are until you start drawing and see how incomplete the picture is.
You don't know the placement, value and hue of every pixel. You probably couldn't generate a particularly exact mental image with the right shapes and values either. You don't really know what you want to draw in a lower level sense, all you have is ideas but that's not something monitors can show. The reason you can walk into the kitchen and eat your corn flakes without having to consciously fire every small nerve impulse is that it's a more basal activity that you've also practiced intensely all your life.
>>3896842 >Doesn't understand the forms >Wonders why he can't represent them with simple shapes on paper
A lot of people can imagine objects in their head no matter how crude or vivid. But putting those objects on paper requires a deeper understanding of forms and perspective
Would you prefer to be a mediocre artist but with a stable and well paid job or a great artist but with a mediocre job?
>>3896725 >If I truly was a great artist I would be able to find a better job >implying the art industry is truly meritocratic
>>3893078 >Art is not that important to society in general
I never got why people say this? Just look around you anywhere in society and you'll see something made by an artist.
Holy shit too real
Yeah. Just because art is in everything doesn't mean most people care about becoming an artist. Excuse my bad wording.
Yeah. Just because art is in everything doesn't mean most people care about becoming artists. Excuse my bad wording.
>TFW trying to use photoshop after being so used to sai
I really want to try out photoshop and see if I can get better paintings with more bells and whistles but it's too damn clunky, please help
Fuck. what's with all the stupid questions on this board?
What kind of reply are you expecting? Just like you got used to sai you also will get used to ps after a while. Watch few videos and Google stuff you need. Learn to use actions and costomize your shortcuts to paint faster and not waste time with the interface. All have on my screen is the canvas, actions and maybe layers. I access all the tools with keyboard. It let's you focus on the painting instead of the technical side of ps.
Hi guys ! I am going to attend a 2-years Concept art & Illustration course. The problem i have is: I want to keep my ancient laptop (i5 5200U, 8Gb Ram, 930M, only supports USB 3.0, HDMI, no USB-C/3.1/ThuderBolt and no mini display port, only HD screen. The hardware is enough since the course focuses mostly on 2D, just a bit 3D. Just need a draw tablet and a better screen, so I am thinking of Cintiq Pro 13. Since my laptop doesn't have USB-C or mini display port, i will need to buy a HDMI to mini display port converter and i will be a hell bunch of cable. Another option i have is to buy a new laptop (maybe a Macbook air or a laptop with decent display which is around 1k$) with a Intuos pro Medium (PTH-660), around 350$. The thing makes me confused about this option is that i may apply for an more extreme concept art course after this(after 2-3 years from now, which will cost like a shithole of money) and they may require a much better laptop ( currently Mac pro i7). So i really don't know what to do right now... Any advices ? Thanks in advance, guys !
Also, the NAS concept is a really interesting thing, ty for opening my eyes :D
Do you guys really do course work on your laptop? Back in my day we get a strong desktop/ mac pro (at least xeon/i7) to do work on, the laptop is only for displaying work progress etc. Which is what I'd suggest, since working on a small screen is very irksome.
>>3895617 For my course we start from basic, draw some still life things, learning fundamentals like traditional art , so we work directly with the laptop. Not like this course requires good laptop since it mostly works on 2D. And yes working with small screen is a bit annoying but well, can not help T_T
concept art course?
What seperates it from just normal art with a commercial purpose?
You start directly on the laptop? Wow. Times have changed. Anyways, if your MacBook Pro is 15 inch with a good gpu and the screen color hasn’t gone too long without calibration it should be fine to work with the cintiq, albeit a little underpowered. Not sure they teach this in school or your school particularly but if the mbp is used for texture rendering etc to do photobashing it’s gonna get hot or slow.
Either post good examples of gesture drawing that we can all study from, your own work, or references for the thread to use.
>>3892477 >Vox Voir
That is actually super helpful and something I never noticed on my own somehow?
Thanks a bunch.
Here are some more, these are 90 seconds per pose and a lot less lose (in a different mindset than last set). Did them before checking your reply so if you spot any parallel lines for pelis and torso theres my excuse.
fuck me, wrong pic these were old and not 90 seconds MY BAD.
Not really gesture related but these will be great for clay sculpting. I find myself without live model as of recently and having refferences with many angles is a blessing. Thank you anon
How do I paint like this, /ic/?
just turn the canvas around after painting it
I could paint better than that with my foot.
find a gross texture brush and maybe put on those goggles that simulate being drunk? or just get drunk?