>>13731476>then someone who already has high energy level won't see benefits of coffee or even might have negative effects.I mean, probably not
>Long term coffee drinkers have better health, but we can't really say that it has direct health benefits.I'm sorry, what? I want you to try to explain this sentence, I'm really curious to hear what you come up with
> Second, coffee might have negative long term health effects, which are being masked by mental benefits.you literally live longer and have cognitive protection from coffee. Where do you see room for negative effects in here at all, and what would those negative effects be
>coffee might yield net positive benefits overall, but for people that have more harmonious life, net benefits might be negative.What the fuck is a harmonious life, and no, that's not how any of this works
>X improves cognitive decline and is associated with increase lifespan across all-cause mortality, including cancers, diseases, etc, basically a panacea>BUT WHAT IF ITS ACTUALLY NEGATIVEAnyways, to address some of these convoluted points- first, the health benefits from coffee are from the coffee itself, not the caffeine stimulant component. We know this, because in the studies and meta studies, caffeine alone shows no similar health benefits, and decaf-coffee shows the same health benefits as regular coffee. So it's not the "energy" component of coffee.
Second, we're pretty sure the mechanism is related to the rich mixture of phenolic acids/polyphenols, primarily chlorogenic acids, which activate antioxidant pathways and affect glucose tolerance. This isn't unique to coffee, namely eating lots of veggies can give you similar effects- but doesn't entirely cover the range of benefits of coffee, as all-cause mortality is lowered in pretty much all populations, no matter the way they've been sliced and diced. that said, coffee is the predominant way the world gets it's polyphenols, so it makes sense that it shows a huge health-positive.