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Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 18:33:23 2016 No.84420513 View Reply Original Report

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Which was better?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2016 18:35:17 No.84420563 Report

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>>84420513
I didn't see the TT/PPG crossover episode. SU/UG was surprisingly strong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2016 18:35:27 No.84420569 Report

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>>84420513
Say Uncle by a longshot.

Like it's not even funny how much better they work than TTG and PPG screamfest 2016

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2016 18:36:32 No.84420595 Report

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There was nothing really wrong with Say Uncle. It established itself as a joke episode right off the bat and was pretty funny at that.

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Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2016 18:38:43 No.84420645 Report

Quoted By: >>84420807 >>84420820

Both suck but UG/SU was poking fun at each other while PPG/TTG was literally "We are making the TTG even shittier to make PPG look good"

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2016 18:40:55 No.84420697 Report

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Say Uncle easily

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2016 18:45:20 No.84420795 Report

Quoted By: >>84420858

>Say Uncle was an SU produced episode with SU writers
>TTG/PPG was a TTG produced episode with a writer who had worked on a few episodes of PPG

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2016 18:45:44 No.84420807 Report

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>>84420645
Don't the Teen Titans usually shit on themselves anyway?

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Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2016 18:46:28 No.84420820 Report

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>>84420645
>Both suck

False. Say Uncle highlighted the strengths of both shows while still being a slap-sticky (and canon) side story and having great character interaction which is what you want in a crossover.

TTG x nuPPG was just the nuPPG shitting on the TTG and the TTG going "lol we SUCK xDDD take THAT, nostalgiafags" for the fifth fucking time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2016 18:46:28 No.84420822 Report

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>>84420513

Only saw UG/SU one, but I'de say even then It's probably better by far.

PPG is pure garbage and TTG can sometimes generate a chuckle. Their coming together is probably garbage.

Meanwhile SU is alright and UG can sometimes generate a chuckle. It was alright.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2016 18:48:02 No.84420853 Report

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>>84420820
Oh, also the latter was just made to boost nuPPG's audience by mooching off TTG

>"HEY KIDDIES, CHECK OUT THIS COOL CROSSOVER EPISODE AND REMEMBER TO BUY ALL THE PPG/TTG TOYS THE NEXT TIME YOU VISIT THE TOY STORE."

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2016 18:48:19 No.84420858 Report

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>>84420795
>>Say Uncle was an SU produced episode with SU writers
It's surprising because it could work perfectly as a Say Uncle Episode. It's the actual format they went with.

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Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2016 18:48:38 No.84420864 Report

Quoted By: >>84420895 >>84426085 >>84427589

>>84420820
>while still being a slap-sticky (and canon) side story

Did... did you not pay attention to the first minute and a half? Especially the 1 minute mark?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2016 18:48:54 No.84420870 Report

Quoted By: >>84421285

>Say Uncle opens with UG literally sinking a ship with his headcannon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2016 18:49:53 No.84420895 Report

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>>84420864
I did, cause I knew someone would pique over the canon bit of my post :^)

Regardless, it was still good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2016 19:07:10 No.84421285 Report

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>>84420870
It's too good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2016 19:13:49 No.84421433 Report

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>>84420513
Say Uncle was the most entertaining episode from either show

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Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2016 19:17:51 No.84421509 Report

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>>84421285

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2016 19:32:37 No.84421844 Report

Quoted By: >>84421904 >>84422274

Uncle Grandpa in anything hands down is better than any of the other pieces of garbage on air right now.

Objective fact.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2016 19:34:11 No.84421880 Report

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>>84420895
>:^)

Machine Jerk

Machine Jerk Mon 11 Jul 2016 19:35:02 No.84421904 Report

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>>84421844
nice dubs and nice facts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2016 19:48:47 No.84422274 Report

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>>84421844
GOOD THING THE SHO IS SO GOOD IT WAS RENEWED FOR TWO NEW SEASONS HAHAHAHAHAHAH

HAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Please kill me. Before, I blamed stupid suits for putting an halt to good show, but since kickstater, I have understood that stupid decision will be taken anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2016 19:53:45 No.84422412 Report

Quoted By: >>84429465

Say Uncle by a wide margin. Of these four shows, SU and UG are good natured shows made with love, TTG is mean spirited but their crew seems to really enjoy working on it, and PPG is just pandering cheaply made crap from every angle.

It also helps that while Say Uncle's events weren't canon, the groundwork for Steven's powers was explicitly stated and laid out- namely that his shield manifests for maternal feelings of protecting someone/something other than himself. That's why Steven can only consistantly do his bubble to protect himself, but was able to use his shield to protect Uncle Grandpa.

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Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2016 19:56:13 No.84422493 Report

Quoted By: >>84422936 >>84425032

>>84420513
When?

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Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2016 20:12:54 No.84422936 Report

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>>84422493
Archer already got the best Cross Over. It can go better from that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2016 20:15:14 No.84422987 Report

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They were both shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2016 20:20:43 No.84423134 Report

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>>84420513
UG>UG/SU>SU>TTG>TTG/PPG2016>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>PPG2016

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2016 20:53:29 No.84423931 Report

Quoted By: >>84423958

uncle grandpa had some good laughs

not because of uncle grandpa though

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2016 20:54:31 No.84423958 Report

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>>84423931
*say uncle

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Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2016 21:11:20 No.84424420 Report

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interdasting

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2016 21:13:59 No.84424502 Report

Quoted By: >>84426791

UG x Infinity.

Actually tries to be LOLRANDUM but doesn't rely and being as mean-spirited as possible, as well as not pissing all over a better show. It feels like back when Spongebob was good in tone.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2016 21:30:29 No.84424947 Report

Quoted By: >>84425408

>>84420513
Say Uncle worked better than I expected because the gems gave Uncle Grandpa a straight man to react accordingly to the bizarre nonsense that he creates.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2016 21:34:04 No.84425032 Report

Quoted By: >>84426532

>>84422493
Related, I know that Ben Bocquelet, maker of Amazing World of Gumball, has said his ideal crossover episode would be with Rick and Morty but he knows it will never happen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2016 21:40:12 No.84425185 Report

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>>84420807
They actually tried to make the story about the TT being too lazy to fight crime and the PPG have to save the day when nuPPG makes it pretty fucking obvious that it's actually the opposite in the regular shows

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2016 21:48:10 No.84425408 Report

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>>84424947
This is the biggest thing that made Uncle Grandpa enjoyable for me where as I usually dislike it. I like the original concept of him going from house to house as a messed up Mary Poppins there to fix someones problems, but very few episodes of the actual show do this and most of it just ends up being Uncle Grandpa hanging out with his main cast. Say Uncle was a good mix of actually using the SU characters to do a good Uncle Grandpa episode.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2016 21:57:09 No.84425651 Report

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>>84420513
Hell, I'd watch Uncle G help any cartoon character.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2016 21:57:59 No.84425682 Report

Quoted By: >>84425911 >>84426045

>>84420513
Crossovers, fillers, non canon episodes and non canon movies are disgusting without any exception.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2016 22:05:52 No.84425911 Report

Quoted By: >>84425946 >>84426085 >>84426235

>>84425682
Say Uncle was actually canon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2016 22:07:09 No.84425946 Report

Quoted By: >>84425997 >>84426020 >>84426085 >>84426293

>>84425911
>"Don't worry, none of this is canon" - Uncle Grandpa

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2016 22:09:14 No.84425997 Report

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>>84425946
He's making fun of people like you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2016 22:10:06 No.84426020 Report

Quoted By: >>84426130

>>84425946
Well, the fact that Uncle G said that it wasn't canon was canon, so therefore it's canon

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2016 22:11:00 No.84426045 Report

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>>84425682
Say Uncle just proved you wrong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2016 22:12:16 No.84426085 Report

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>>84425911
>>84425946
>>84420820
>>84420864
>>84420895
Say Uncle is actually Canon to the Uncle Grandpa canon. Just not canon to SU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2016 22:13:45 No.84426130 Report

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>>84426020
canon to the UG universe, but not to the steven universe
>he doesn't understand basic cartoon hyper metaphysics and analysis
The fact that he said none of this was canon to stevenmeans that to the steven universe universe none of it was canon
so even if it's canon that Uncle Granpa was canon, it's not canon to Steven Universe

the whole joke was layered like that so people like me could feel smug and cool whenever we encounter people like you

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2016 22:17:29 No.84426235 Report

Quoted By: >>84426310

>>84425911
Arguing aside, I remember them saying that they intentionally wrote the episode in a way that it can be taken as canon as the viewer wants. On one hand, Uncle Grandpa outright declares it non-canon. On the other hand, Steven still has mastery of his shield after it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2016 22:19:32 No.84426291 Report

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>>84420513
Say Uncle legitimately made me laugh.

TTG/PPG legitimately made me rethink my opinion on just how utterly shite both shows are. They are now completely irredeemable.

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Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2016 22:19:37 No.84426293 Report

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>>84425946
>Say Uncle airs
>Was about teaching Steven how to use his shield
>Every episode since then Steven pulls out his shield at will and seems to fully grasp the power
When will SU fags just admit it's canon? There's no other explanation for how he learned to just start doing this. No one even seems shocked he can pull out his shield from that point onwards.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2016 22:20:10 No.84426310 Report

Quoted By: >>84426420 >>84426470

>>84426235
>On the other hand, Steven still has mastery of his shield after it.
Not really. Canonically, it's wanting to protect the gems from the blasting hand that manage to make him able to pull out the Shield.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2016 22:21:45 No.84426346 Report

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Has a new episode leaked, or is it just promo? I am trying really hard to not get spoiled, but I couldn't help but notice Woolly has got a more defined design than what we saw in Lapis's flashback circulating around..

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2016 22:23:30 No.84426383 Report

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>>84426293
Because of the joke UG says at the start, which made the /sug/s declare up and down that it isn't canon.

It was even written by the SU writers and yet that's not enough for them.

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Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2016 22:23:38 No.84426391 Report

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>>84426293
It happened but Steven doesn't remember it

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2016 22:24:33 No.84426420 Report

Quoted By: >>84427059

>>84426310
That made him pull out the shield in desperation, same with Lapis. That wasn't learning to use it. Uncle Grandpa actually explained how his power worked and since then he could pull it out whenever.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2016 22:25:04 No.84426440 Report

Quoted By: >>84426531

Say Uncle was decent enough for what it was.
TTG + nuPPG was pretty lackluster.

However both weren't as good as the mystery incorporated crossover.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2016 22:26:21 No.84426470 Report

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>>84426310
The only one who was shocked in that scene was Nap- I mean Jasper because she immediately recognized the shield.

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Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2016 22:28:56 No.84426531 Report

Quoted By: >>84427518

>>84426440
The mystery team one was a pretty eh episode, mostly cause I wish they went a little more in depth on the teams and not just made a single team out of the mascots.

Blue Falcon and all the plot involving Johnny Quest were sweet though. Unlike the mystery teams too, they weren't afraid of doing it and didn't do the cop out answer of "it was all a dream"

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2016 22:29:01 No.84426532 Report

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>>84425032
Rick and Morty is the perfect crossover for so many things

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Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2016 22:29:07 No.84426537 Report

Quoted By: >>84426667

>>84420513
Say Uncle easily.

TTG had me laughing a couple of times but when it ended the first thing I thought was, "That's it?" There was nothing particularly special about it. Honestly you could have replaced the PPG with any other generic superhero and the plot would be identical.

Say Uncle was the two shows giving each other unapologetic high fives and letting each other shine and was funny all the way through besides that.

>mfw Mr Gusite
>mfw PIZZA STEEEVE still being the best

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2016 22:33:39 No.84426644 Report

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Why the fuck do people want to act like Say Uncle wasn't any good. It was hilarious watching Steven Universe get off it's pretentious ass High Horse.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2016 22:34:23 No.84426667 Report

Quoted By: >>84426890 >>84429577

>>84426537
>mfw Mr Gusite
The Mr Gusite shit was a lot funnier after learning that the Uncle Grandpa staff actually submitted it to a gemsona site before the episode aired and it got rejected.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2016 22:34:28 No.84426670 Report

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>>84420513
Say Uncle was fucking art.

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Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2016 22:39:38 No.84426791 Report

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>>84424502
>pissing all over a "better" show

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2016 22:42:58 No.84426882 Report

Quoted By: >>84426941

>>84426293
I had no idea the nigger bitch could fight

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2016 22:43:11 No.84426890 Report

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>>84426667
Ian was behind that,not the UG crew,all the UG crew did was provide voice work

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2016 22:44:46 No.84426941 Report

Quoted By: >>84426963

>>84426882
She's indian you stupid /pol/lack

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2016 22:45:27 No.84426963 Report

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>>84426941
And?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2016 22:46:32 No.84426998 Report

Quoted By: >>84427108

>Uncle Grandpa pulls out a list of kids he needs to visit
>Ed
>Edd
>Eddy
>Billy
>Mandy
etc.

Loved it. Say Uncle was just plain old fun. Wasn't afraid to poke fun at itself and had some great gags

The TTG/PPG felt more like a soulless crossover to rub some of the popularity onto PPG so they could pump more merchandise sales.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2016 22:47:15 No.84427020 Report

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>>84426293
>>Every episode since then Steven pulls out his shield at will
After that episode, the first time he pull it off is when the Gems are about to get blasted by the space hand. It was kind of a special occasion.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2016 22:49:00 No.84427059 Report

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>>84426420
The hand blast hppened AFTER Unlce Grandpa. He has been able to pull out the Shield since the Hand Blast which is the point where he learned to master the Shield.

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Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2016 22:49:19 No.84427067 Report

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We all know who was the best

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Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2016 22:51:16 No.84427108 Report

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>>84426998
>mfw Swatcats

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2016 22:53:03 No.84427156 Report

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>>84426293
>There's no other explanation for how he learned to just start doing this.
Yes there is.

It's powered by wanting to protect something he loves.

He sees his family about to get blown up by a space ship.

And then that becomes the first time he pulls out the shield.

Say Uncle was just a "sneak peek" to clue more casual viewers in on how the shield works and what makes pulling it out special beyond just him having a weapon before Steven pulls it out "for real".

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2016 22:55:31 No.84427230 Report

Quoted By: >>84427426

>>84420513
Say Uncle
Best
>Amethyst eating Pizza Steve
Worst
>Mr. Gus' gemsona

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2016 23:01:52 No.84427426 Report

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>>84427230
Amethyst eating pizza Steve was amazing

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2016 23:05:44 No.84427518 Report

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>>84426531
>blue falcon is a gritty christian bale type hero
>dynomutt is still goofy frank welker dog

10/10

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2016 23:08:19 No.84427589 Report

Quoted By: >>84429027 >>84433066

>>84420864
If the part where he says it's not canon isn't canon, that makes it canon.

Checkmate

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Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2016 23:10:33 No.84427648 Report

Quoted By: >>84429701 >>84430691

Say Uncle won an award for the best Steven Universe episode.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2016 00:10:46 No.84429027 Report

Quoted By: >>84429290

>>84427589
Wait, does this mean that if I write a fanfiction in which a character claim it's not canon, then that make the fanfiction canon and I can edit the official wiki to include my fanfic as being officially part of the canon lore?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2016 00:18:25 No.84429241 Report

Quoted By: >>84429751 >>84429959

Say Uncle
Ben 10 x Generator Rex
Or The Grim Adventures of the KND

Which was the best CN crossover? TTGxnuPPG discounted because we all know it's irredeemable shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2016 00:20:36 No.84429290 Report

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>>84429027
If your name is Lauren Zuke

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2016 00:27:21 No.84429465 Report

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>>84422412
>TTG is mean spirited but their crew seems to really enjoy working on it
I think its more that the writers know they're stuck with shit due to what the execs are forcing on them, but they're trying their best to have fun and make the most of it.
Hence things like that episode that was basically just one long fuck you at the New 52 or Weird Al as Darkseid.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2016 00:32:39 No.84429577 Report

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>>84426667
Did they submit Gus's original or did they submit Pizza Steve's revision?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2016 00:36:21 No.84429671 Report

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>>84422936
>Louise didn't talk
Missed opportunity/10

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2016 00:37:36 No.84429701 Report

Quoted By: >>84429892 >>84432417

>>84427648
That episode was godly
>Clarence, Johnny Bravo, and Samuari Jack in the crowd
>"None of you are getting renewed next season."

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2016 00:39:37 No.84429751 Report

Quoted By: >>84429975

>>84429241
>No Bravo Dooby Doo
For shame.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2016 00:46:08 No.84429892 Report

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>>84429701
>Johnny Bravo
only if Kirk Tingblad brings it back. he did it better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2016 00:48:49 No.84429959 Report

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>>84429241
Whelp. Lets do this the democratic way.
http://www.strawpoll.me/10725432

(I left out short cameos and anything that was just Cow & Chicking showing up in I Am Weasel)

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2016 00:49:16 No.84429975 Report

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>>84429751
Shit, I knew I was forgetting one

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2016 01:24:59 No.84430691 Report

Quoted By: >>84430981

>>84427648
Where's this from?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2016 01:38:55 No.84430981 Report

Quoted By: >>84431033

>>84430691
Uncle Grandpa, the Grampies. Its a huge crossover of Cartoon Network stars in which UG basically just screws with all of them. It's funny

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2016 01:40:33 No.84431019 Report

Quoted By: >>84431309

>>84420513
Say uncle had Pearl at her best (IE: Her having a nervous breakdown)

Needless to say it was great fapping material.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2016 01:41:15 No.84431033 Report

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>>84430981
It's even funnier as at was airing closely after the cancellation was announced?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2016 01:53:33 No.84431309 Report

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>>84431019
Her voice actress really showed her range in that one.

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Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2016 01:57:00 No.84431378 Report

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>>84420513
>PPG + TT
This needed to happen 10 years ago. It's waaaaaaaaay to late for that to be any good now.

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Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2016 02:49:23 No.84432417 Report

Quoted By: >>84433774

>>84429701
>the episode premiered on the same day animation guild blog said that Uncle Grandpa is getting cancelled

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2016 03:10:46 No.84432932 Report

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>>84420513
Billy and Mandy x KND

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Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2016 03:16:08 No.84433066 Report

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>>84427589

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Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2016 03:28:02 No.84433366 Report

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>>84420513
There both good

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Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2016 03:30:06 No.84433418 Report

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Say Uncle was amazing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2016 03:40:58 No.84433673 Report

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>UG basically cancelled
>the hinted-at Clarence crossover will never happen

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2016 03:45:00 No.84433774 Report

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>>84432417
Haven't seen too much of the series myself, but that was a dick move on CN's part.

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