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Anonymous Sun 28 Apr 23:05:17 2019 No.107264856 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>107264871 >>107264915 >>107264916 >>107265011 >>107265217 >>107266979

Wally literally did nothing wrong. Why is he going to kill himself?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Apr 2019 23:06:06 No.107264871 Report

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>>107264856
because king secretly wants to kill himself and is using wally since he can't himself

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Apr 2019 23:08:14 No.107264906 Report

Quoted By: >>107264955 >>107264964

I mean the guy defiled the corpses of his fellow boarders, framed two of the only survivors for his crimes and convinced them both that the other did it with the express purpose of getting them to hunt one another down to expose them (and personally sabotaged Booster's shields, which directly resulted in Harley almost murdering him), for the sake of giving himself five days to send a few emails, make a video, and plant a flower.

This is basically the equivalent of a guy reacting to hitting someone who randomly walked in the road with his car, and trying to solve this obvious accident by cutting the body up, throwing it in the incinerator, and framing his passenger for it.

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Anonymous Sun 28 Apr 2019 23:08:43 No.107264915 Report

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>>107264856
Because untreated CIA Middle East PTSD

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Apr 2019 23:08:45 No.107264916 Report

Quoted By: >>107264970 >>107265000 >>107265358

>>107264856
He tried to cover up an accident, planted evidence and attempted to frame two innocent people. That's plenty of wrong.

Wally has to kill himself because it satisfies King's trauma fetish.

That being said:

Why did he not explain himself to the JL instead of staging an elaborate murder mystery?

Why did he not travel back in time to stop himself from going nuclear?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Apr 2019 23:10:50 No.107264955 Report

Quoted By: >>107264979 >>107266807

>>107264906
>I mean the guy defiled the corpses of his fellow boarders
He moved the bodies, if even that. It's not like he fucked their corpses.
>framed two of the only survivors
Who gives a shit? Harley is a murderer already and Booster is just a loser.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Apr 2019 23:11:35 No.107264964 Report

Quoted By: >>107264997

>>107264906
Batman, Barry, Wonder Woman and Hal all did far far worse.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Apr 2019 23:11:53 No.107264970 Report

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>>107264916
>He tried to cover up an accident, planted evidence and attempted to frame two innocent people. That's plenty wrong
Only in the legal sense.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Apr 2019 23:12:12 No.107264979 Report

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>>107264955
>He moved the bodies, if even that.
He shoved a pair of chattering teeth down Citzen Steel's throat to frame Harley
>Who gives a shit?
Now you're just trolling lol.

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Anonymous Sun 28 Apr 2019 23:13:14 No.107264997 Report

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>>107264964
Such as?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Apr 2019 23:13:26 No.107265000 Report

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>>107264916
...wait, did King really copy Identity Crisis and just add sucide? Im glad i didnt bother reading this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Apr 2019 23:13:27 No.107265001 Report

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Someone said why didn't he go around the planet and murder all villains in those five days if he knew he was doomed and I've been thinking about that it's a fair point

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Apr 2019 23:14:21 No.107265011 Report

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>>107264856
Because King is a fucking cunt.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Apr 2019 23:26:38 No.107265217 Report

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>>107264856
Because King and Didio are edgy hacks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Apr 2019 23:29:53 No.107265275 Report

Quoted By: >>107265444

okay but why did he do it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Apr 2019 23:31:47 No.107265320 Report

Quoted By: >>107265474

>>107264979
Dead is dead.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Apr 2019 23:33:27 No.107265358 Report

Quoted By: >>107265398

>>107264916
>Why did he not explain himself to the JL instead of staging an elaborate murder mystery?
Because he's having a nervous breakdown.

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Anonymous Sun 28 Apr 2019 23:35:29 No.107265398 Report

Quoted By: >>107265579 >>107265683

>>107265358
Why didn't sane Wally stop crazed Wally?

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Anonymous Sun 28 Apr 2019 23:38:29 No.107265444 Report

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>>107265000
You're the lucky one, anon.
>>107265275
Because King made him do it.
He's a neurotic depressed fucking dumbass who's writing perfectly fine characters as neurotic depressed fucking dumbasses and then Didio gives him a cookie for it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Apr 2019 23:38:30 No.107265445 Report

Quoted By: >>107265489

>>107264997
Barry alone killed millions with flashpoint.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Apr 2019 23:40:06 No.107265474 Report

Quoted By: >>107265713 >>107265772

>>107265320
Defiling bodies is defiling bodies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Apr 2019 23:41:17 No.107265489 Report

Quoted By: >>107265513 >>107265553

>>107265445
Sweet, you got me on Barry. Who else?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Apr 2019 23:42:28 No.107265513 Report

Quoted By: >>107265580

>>107265489
Hal did genocide before it was retconned away like this will no doubt be.
I don't know why that guy mentioned Dana or Bruce though

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Apr 2019 23:44:45 No.107265553 Report

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>>107265489
Bruce has brother eye and letting joker kill hundreds
Diana has killed people in battle many times

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Apr 2019 23:46:16 No.107265579 Report

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>>107265398
Both Wally's are crazy, I think. Wally should have gone back in time to stop himself instead of going five days into the future to kill himself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Apr 2019 23:46:22 No.107265580 Report

Quoted By: >>107265612

>>107265513
>>107265553
>muh Joker
If we're going by hypothetical deaths, pretty much every single hero is guilty of not being able to save everyone. It's the intent behind it that differentiates indifference from genocide.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Apr 2019 23:47:47 No.107265612 Report

Quoted By: >>107265752

>>107265580
Brother eye was an evil spy satellite that Bruce made that kidnapped criminals and used them as power sources or something, idk it's been a while. It's basically Ultron but less sexy if I remember right

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Apr 2019 23:51:51 No.107265683 Report

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>>107265398
The answer for everything in this is bad writing. The worst part about King is that he didn't even have the decency to take this character ruining garbage to an elseworld if he wanted to explore it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Apr 2019 23:53:46 No.107265713 Report

Quoted By: >>107265767

>>107265474
Defiling is you trying to play this up so you can whine about it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Apr 2019 23:55:58 No.107265752 Report

Quoted By: >>107265767

>>107265612
And he directly acknowledged that it was a mistake and personally participated in its destruction.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Apr 2019 23:57:11 No.107265767 Report

Quoted By: >>107265868

>>107265713
I'm personally pretty amused by all the people going BUT HE FRAMED THEM AND RUINED BODIES, OMG. As if Booster or Harley are going to give a fuck once it's explained what happened since they were never suppose to be framed for more then a few days anyways or if the faking the body bits is some sort of huge moral crime compared to murder or what not.
>>107265752
Yeah and? Personally I don't really care that he did any of that, but you can still hold him capable of it if you want just like this shit with Wally instead of blaming it on bad writing and moving on

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Apr 2019 23:57:21 No.107265772 Report

Quoted By: >>107265845 >>107266824

>>107265474
Quick survey: who actually thinks this is an irredeemable act? This is the worst thing Wally did and he did it during a nervous breakdown so I'm voting that it's not that big of a deal.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 Apr 2019 00:00:21 No.107265845 Report

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>>107265772
Nobody that isn't just trying to get mad about King

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 Apr 2019 00:01:33 No.107265868 Report

Quoted By: >>107266595 >>107266957

>>107265767
This. There are superheroes like Red Hood who actually go around killing people but Wally is ruined forever because he briefly went insane and faked a crime scene.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 Apr 2019 00:04:11 No.107265926 Report

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I blame King. Hope they ship his ass off to a padded cell and throw away the key.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 Apr 2019 00:36:28 No.107266595 Report

Quoted By: >>107266625

>>107265868
Because that’s part of Red Hoods character you garbage excuse for a troll

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 Apr 2019 00:37:48 No.107266625 Report

Quoted By: >>107266876

>>107266595
>calling anyone a troll when you're just pissy about King and over reacting

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 Apr 2019 00:38:20 No.107266640 Report

Quoted By: >>107266869

This entire event was created just to prop up Barry and a fuck you to Johns.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 Apr 2019 00:46:13 No.107266807 Report

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>>107264955
>It's not like he fucked their corpses.
Or did he?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 Apr 2019 00:46:48 No.107266824 Report

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>>107265772
I mean a better writer can always just fix this and wave it away or make it some part of a Villians scheme, but until that happens yes at this point Wally is irredeemable.

Literally what everyone has been saying is Wally should have gone back and tried to prevent himself from committing Involuntary Manslaughter (which would be a more incharacter thin for him to do), instead of going back to cover up said crime which makes what he did far worse.

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Anonymous Mon 29 Apr 2019 00:49:22 No.107266869 Report

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>>107266640
I mean, yeah. It's hard to even pretend it's anything but more DC streamlining. Which is incredibly weird because editorial keeps sending out mixed signals on how they feel about that.

>New 52 is over, Rebirth is back! Enjoy Titans!
>But Nightwing is redundant again for some reason, let's shoot him in the head and turn him into a dick!

>Barry and Wally are back and they remember and love each other!
>Wally has decided to go back to his home planet.
>Time to have him do something terribly creepy and cruel.

>Superman has a family and has a fun dynamic with his wife and son.
>TEIM 4 BENDIS

>Doomsday Clock is a serious continuation of the themes and spirit of Watchmen. You can read this on its own and appreciate it as a singular work of literature.
>Hey guys remember the JSA?!?!

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Anonymous Mon 29 Apr 2019 00:49:43 No.107266876 Report

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>>107266625
I’m sorry for calling you out as a Troll, it clearly is far worse than being a complete and utter Moron which would be the only other explanation

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 Apr 2019 00:54:05 No.107266957 Report

Quoted By: >>107267162

>>107265868
Red Hood is an anti-hero, there's a difference

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 Apr 2019 00:55:25 No.107266979 Report

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>>107264856
Because Tom Ling feels guilty over murdering Jawas

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Anonymous Mon 29 Apr 2019 01:03:29 No.107267162 Report

Quoted By: >>107267505

>>107266957
Is it? Like morally speaking that is?

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Anonymous Mon 29 Apr 2019 01:18:37 No.107267474 Report

Quoted By: >>107267576 >>107267626

I missed the storytime but eventually read up on the issue later. It was a little convoluted to say the least.

Correct me if I'm wrong please:
>Wally has some issues that aren't resolving.
>He decides to speed-hack(?) Sanctuary somehow and looks at everyone else's therapy videos within about 1 second.
>Information overload.
>His powers go crazy and kill everyone around him.
>He freaks out, and in about a second, he finds out Harley and Booster are still in their simulations so again speed-hacks(?) Sanctuary to set up 2 separate simulations in which both Harley and Booster are set up as the murderers and he messes with the bodies accordingly.
>To remove himself as a potential suspect, he goes 5 days in the future, kills his older self, mutilates his older body to look like both Booster and Harley killed him, and then returns his own body to the past to again set up Harley and Booster with the other bodies.
>He used to be in forensics and anticipating Batman's investigation, fucks with the whole crime scene to make it look convincing.
>???
>Profit.

So now present Wally intends to wait a couple days until he gets killed by himself?

What the fuck is Poison Ivy's involvement?
Why does 5 days in the future Wally want present Wally to go get a rose from somewhere?

Help me please. I only have 2 brain cells to rub together.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 Apr 2019 01:19:50 No.107267505 Report

Quoted By: >>107267652

>>107267162
Are you mentally challenged? Yes there is a difference Anti-Hero means he’s more Morally Gray willing to kill to get things done... Wally is no Anti-Hero, he was just a plain hero

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 Apr 2019 01:24:03 No.107267576 Report

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>>107267474
There was no thought put into it by King, aside from probably being a part of his manifesto when he himself snaps and goes on a rampage

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 Apr 2019 01:26:34 No.107267626 Report

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>>107267474
Wally helped Resurrected Poison Ivy as an act of atonement.
>but how did he know how to do that?
Stable time loop.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 Apr 2019 01:27:37 No.107267652 Report

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>>107267505
>he's an anti-hero
That doesn't mean anything to the morality of killing.

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Anonymous Mon 29 Apr 2019 01:27:51 No.107267661 Report

Quoted By: >>107267714 >>107267790

Sanctuary as a concept is still completely fucking insane and is another project Batman should feel embarrassed about.

The lizard guy is using the therapy systems purely to be shot in the chest with a laser beam dozens of time, for fucks sake.

If all these idiots went to an actual therapist, they'd be much better off than having a robot just validate them no matter what they say.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 Apr 2019 01:30:07 No.107267714 Report

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>>107267661
King has clearly never gone to therapy or did any research on what actually happens

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 Apr 2019 01:33:48 No.107267790 Report

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>>107267661
>The lizard guy is using the therapy systems purely to be shot in the chest with a laser beam dozens of time, for fucks sake.
You know the funny thing about that is that it was actually working, He was getting over his trauma.

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