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Anonymous Mon 25 Apr 05:58:19 2022 No.14426279 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>14426322 >>14426353 >>14426849 >>14426951 >>14427324

Genuine discussion on the effectiveness of the Covid-19 vaccine.
A few general questions to get things started:
Are you better off simply not getting it?
Would elderly people benefit from getting the covid-19 vaccine?
What are the confirmed and likely potential negative side effects of the covid-19 vaccine?
Could the vaccines result in a phenomenon similar to Marek’s disease in chickens?
How does the covid-19 vaccine differ from other MRNA vaccines?

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Anonymous Mon 25 Apr 2022 06:00:24 No.14426282 Report

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why am I sexually attracted to that cartoon?

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Anonymous Mon 25 Apr 2022 06:05:01 No.14426291 Report

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>>14426282
Because you are in picrel

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Anonymous Mon 25 Apr 2022 06:15:21 No.14426322 Report

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>>14426279
>Are you better off simply not getting it?

A die roll. You might be protected to an extent or you might suffer nasty side effects (like pericarditis or heart attack) and die from it.

>Would elderly people benefit from getting the covid-19 vaccine?

A die roll like the above, but a lot more risky if they're in hospital or nursing home because nurses might make mistakes like accidentally giving them extra shots.

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Anonymous Mon 25 Apr 2022 06:19:48 No.14426328 Report

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Looks safe to me.

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Anonymous Mon 25 Apr 2022 06:39:05 No.14426353 Report

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>>14426279
> Could the vaccines result in a phenomenon similar to Marek’s disease in chickens?
100% yes. Leaky vaccines are dumb. They allow deadly mutations, while normal mutation behavior is to get weaker so you don’t kill your host.
>better off not getting it.
Yes. It’s effectiveness drops after like 4 months to negotiable and everytime you get a booster you roll the dice on side effects.
If you are under 55 and don’t have cancer or autoimmune you have a 99.9997 percent chance of having a mild or invisible case. (Btw that other group is at risk for all flies, like always).
>would the [at risk] benefit from the shot
Yes.

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Anonymous Mon 25 Apr 2022 11:41:56 No.14426849 Report

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>>14426279
>Are you better off simply not getting it?
If you are young, it mostly depends whether virus starts affecting lungs and your immune response will betray you and start killing healthy lung cells along with the virus. This is the main reason young people die from it. Not being fat, Not smoking, not myriad other copes others list here.
If you are old, most likely you will just die from something chronic that Covid will worsen.

>Would elderly people benefit from getting the covid-19 vaccine?
Probably. Even in worst case, kicking the bucket from heart attack is more humane than withering away because your lungs are too dysfunctional from getting needed oxygen intake, but that's me.

>What are the confirmed and likely potential negative side effects of the covid-19 vaccine?
Fever for one to several days is a given. Mine was for 15 hours. I saw two patients with the negative side effects due to vaccine, one had a migraine for about a week, and the other developed a limp for a month.

>Could the vaccines result in a phenomenon similar to Marek’s disease in chickens?
Covid is too slow and ineffective as a killer to get this phenomenon in play.

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Anonymous Mon 25 Apr 2022 11:42:57 No.14426851 Report

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>>14426353
>while normal mutation behavior is to get weaker so you don’t kill your host.
Actual brainlet. Let me guess, the only book you have read is bible?

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Anonymous Mon 25 Apr 2022 12:23:26 No.14426951 Report

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>>14426279
You posted the EXACT same post a year ago.

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Anonymous Mon 25 Apr 2022 14:51:32 No.14427191 Report

Quoted By: >>14427284 >>14427383

Thanks for the replies, everyone. A few more questions to keep the thread going:
Is it possible for the vaccine
to create a permanent auto immune deficiency similar to AIDS in the host? Could this be spread via sexual transmission, or through childbirth and drinking breast milk?
Are the unvaccinated responsible for the new variants, or are they the results of an ineffective vaccine, or something else entirely?
How could have the pandemic been handled better, from a scientific perspective?

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Anonymous Mon 25 Apr 2022 15:38:27 No.14427279 Report

Quoted By: >>14427287

Nearly the entire population of the planet has gotten some kind of vaccine and some strain of COVID at this point and nobodies cock is falling off. People need to calm the fuck down.

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Anonymous Mon 25 Apr 2022 15:41:56 No.14427284 Report

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>>14427191
1: Do you really think the vaccine gave everybody AIDS? Stop being a dumb gullible fuck.
2: mutations would have happened with or without the vaccine. Nobody has any real idea if the vaccine made the problem better or worse they only have speculation.
3: Nuking wuhan from orbit

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Anonymous Mon 25 Apr 2022 15:42:55 No.14427287 Report

Quoted By: >>14427303

>>14427279
Hello retard. Just because the effects aren't immediate death it doesn't mean that there are no effects. The increase in myocarditis, for example, is interesting.

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Anonymous Mon 25 Apr 2022 15:49:33 No.14427303 Report

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>>14427287
And COVID itself is causing people to pic related so who really cares about myocarditis.

How would we be able to discern if the vaccine is weakening the immune system? People spent years weakening their immune system THROUGH THEIR ACTIONS and this has happened in such a way that the only way you could actually prove this was happening is through a controlled clinical trial which are jewish scams that won't reveal the truth to the GOYIM you can't trust so what I suggest is that you believe whatever somebody in a COVID conspiracy video tells you without question.

There's a good argument the vaccines strengthened the immune system simply by normalizing society "returning to normal" which isn't even an actual effect of the vaccine itself. That is how fucked up trying to actually determine the vaccines effect on the immune system is. There are so many confounders here your head will fucking spin.

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Anonymous Mon 25 Apr 2022 15:57:03 No.14427324 Report

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>>14426279
> Are you better off simply not getting it?
Me personally? I take immune suppressants for an autoimmune condition so yes, most likely. I took two jabs and caught covid around half a year after my second, had no symptoms whatsoever, Cant speak for everyone however

>Would elderly people benefit from getting the covid-19 vaccine?
Yes.

>What are the confirmed and likely potential negative side effects of the covid-19 vaccine?
The only “likely” side effects are mild flu-like symptoms. Serious side effects like clots and myocarditis are vanishingly rare, as is Gillian-barre syndrome.

>Could the vaccines result in a phenomenon similar to Marek’s disease in chickens?
We would be seeing the effects already, ie. unvaccinated dropping dead from variants with a higher lethality rate. Instead we’re seeing the prominence of variants like Omicron, which appears to be significantly less lethal than previous variants.

> How does the covid-19 vaccine differ from other MRNA vaccines?
What other mRNA vaccines have there been?

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Anonymous Mon 25 Apr 2022 16:22:55 No.14427383 Report

Quoted By: >>14427393 >>14427805

>>14427191
1. no. the mRNA vaccine works by tricking a handful of (ideally muscle; intravenous injection of the gel that houses the mRNA is much, much more dangerous than the mRNA vaccine is - the mRNA falls apart almost immediately in the body, that's why it needs the gel in the first place) cells into making the spike protein - the immune system responds by fucking deleting those cells from continuing to live, and keeps a record of the spike protein that triggered it for later. it doesn't do anything beyond that.

2. probably both, plus ineffective quarantine efforts (no, China, starving out your own citizens by locking them in their homes is not effective quarantine)

3. the Chinese not lying to everybody, and the NIH not lying to save the reputation of foreign biolabs. no joke the "public outreach/messaging" efforts have done more damage to the credibility of academia as a whole during this pandemic than the pandemic itself possibly could have. we're beyond the point where people just forget about being lied to, cultural collective memory of violated trust is both faster spreading and longer lasting.

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Anonymous Mon 25 Apr 2022 16:27:01 No.14427393 Report

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>>14427383
I think the #1 most retarded message this entire pandemic was "Don't use these ineffective masks! Nurses need them you monster" right at the start of the pandemic.

#2 was "just 2 weeks to flatten the curve"

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Anonymous Mon 25 Apr 2022 18:20:17 No.14427772 Report

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Good news everyone! The vaccine once again prevents spread of the virus!

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Anonymous Mon 25 Apr 2022 18:27:01 No.14427784 Report

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>>14427772
What the fuck is wrong with Canadians? I ask this as a Canadian myself.

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Anonymous Mon 25 Apr 2022 18:33:34 No.14427796 Report

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>>14427784
globohomo white genocide the great reset

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Anonymous Mon 25 Apr 2022 18:36:13 No.14427805 Report

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>>14427383
>NIH
I agree. I think the public was horribly mislead about how effective the vaccines actually were. People thought it would be like a smallpox thing where one jab will eradicate the virus, but the epidemiology is clearly more complicated than that; if the CDC and such gave us realistic expectations, maybe people wouldn't be so goddamn skeptical.

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Anonymous Mon 25 Apr 2022 18:50:39 No.14427835 Report

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>>14427784
inb4 life increases risk of death

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Anonymous Mon 25 Apr 2022 21:20:16 No.14428301 Report

Quoted By: >>14429606

If you were to take the vaccine, which is the safest side effect wise? If you are in a situation where you have to bite the bullet, what would be the best path.

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Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2022 04:37:15 No.14429606 Report

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>>14428301
That information is not publicly known. Each has its own set of acknowledged side effects along with side effects they know about but don't acknowledge and highly likely, some side effects that even the manufacturers don't know about yet. The ones from the second world seem to have the least impact, both in terms of side effects and effectiveness against illness from the virus. Much of the first world doesn't consider second world injections to be valid so if you go that route, check to make sure your effort isn't wasted should government compliance be your goal.

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Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2022 04:55:52 No.14429647 Report

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>>14427784
really it's an illusion of relative population and contast to america
less population = easier to centralize/subjugate
we're more like poland or something
but it's uncanny to have such an americanized culture but politically backwoods

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