>>14418212You know a large part of these communities like any other exclusive communities are about "who you know, not what you know". These socialist secret cliques meeting before Russia went red and Hitler's secret little niche temper tantrum in pubs, alongside Bohemian Grove, and Epstein island. It's less about the merit, the true worth, the intrinsic value of such occult groups, and more about the fact it's a bunch of snotty manchildren that envy others, so want to create something that other would be envious of and solidify it through a barrier of no entry, and of the leaders of that cult to create such an impression so as to get mad powerful or wealthy, as opposed to the sheepish members as with any other cults. Then you get two-digit IQ Mensans, and 95th percentile "Triple Nine", which got into the club by being tested at 3 years old, practice effect, nepotism, insane amounts of diverse tests, bad translation of test to IQ, and all sorts of things just to get in, which statistically speaking must be a hefty chunk.
>>14418190I am not disputing IQ, which is the most real thing there ever was and its manifestation is pronounced more and more, day by day, I'm disputing the conflation of a legitimate construct with scientology-like cults whose cognitive dissonance drove them as far as to delude they possess this IQ quality, in spite of no signs of any other success, and pay hefty fees to those that prey on the insecure just to have some footing on their dilapidated self-esteem. Do you know what smart people do? They are the vice presidents of companies, lead professors of esteemed universities, founders of big tech companies, and filers of patents. Even in a low cut-off of around 140, which would be the correlation-adjusted cut-off for the sample in the attached study, nearly half of them earn a PhD. If you struggle in maths, philosophy, or basic rhetoric, critical thinking, and argumentative structure, chances are you're not that much different from average.
