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Turn off inner voice= high IQ?

Anonymous Mon 29 Oct 18:49:34 2018 No.10104149 View Reply Original Report

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If I turn off my inner voice I'll be able to think in abstractions.
Won't that increase IQ and processing speed?

El Arcón

El Arcón Mon 29 Oct 2018 18:52:34 No.10104159 Report

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I have a very high IQ. My inner voice is like, "Blah blah blah," pretty much all the time. Baboons don't have an inner voice. That is something special for people.

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Anonymous Mon 29 Oct 2018 18:53:25 No.10104167 Report

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>>10104149
Optimized.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 Oct 2018 18:58:48 No.10104179 Report

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>>10104149
No. Because the abstractions in your head are not necessarily intuitive, so you need that inner voice to put your thinking into words so you can detect inconsistencies and errors.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 Oct 2018 19:36:00 No.10104282 Report

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>>10104179
They can be intuitive if I try to make them so.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 Oct 2018 19:56:21 No.10104340 Report

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>>10104149
The high IQ way to process is to do it subconsciously.

It sounds like a joke, but it is surprising the complexity's of problems your subconscience can solve.

I often think about shit for a while, but if I stop making progress I stop consciously working on it, but if you return to similar problems often enough, your mind will keep at it even without you knowing. Its very common to come back to the same problem the next day, already knowing how to solve it. I even get solutions in my dreams sometimes.

Don't underestimate your mind's ability to solve problems.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 Oct 2018 19:57:29 No.10104345 Report

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>>10104340
How can you make sure that your subconscious is actually working on it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 Oct 2018 20:07:06 No.10104372 Report

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>>10104345
I don't think you can, but in my experience, when you put a lot of time into a type of problem, eventually your mind will get used to thinking of those kinds of problems. I was working mechanical designs(something that was new for me when I started), where there are at least 1000 bad solution to a problem for every great one. The great solutions were not the ones that I reasoned out. The great solutions were the ones that suddenly popped into my head as if they were obvious, only they were never obvious before knowing them.

I also think It depends a lot on what kind of problem, and what your mind is accustomed to, like how some people will have an easier time thinking mathematically than others.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Oct 2018 06:15:48 No.10105485 Report

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>>10104340
This, the "hardest" problems I've solved we're solved this way, while dreaming or just popped up like an obvious reasoning randomly. But I don't know if it is high IQ realated. I actually think IQ is a meme

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Oct 2018 07:30:51 No.10105544 Report

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>>10105485
What makes you think IQ is a meme? Between population groups it's usefulness is questionable, but within them, IQ is a very good predictor of life outcomes

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Oct 2018 09:54:38 No.10105703 Report

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>>10104149
That's really just turning off an extra tool your mind uses to process. Turn it off and you're just left to focusing on your thoughts. Which is fine and probably happens automatic when you're driving fast or doing something that channels your concentration that otherwise shuts the voice up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Oct 2018 09:58:14 No.10105709 Report

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>>10104149
Your inner voice works in conjunction with abstractions. You don't have to use words for everything because it an switch to pure imagination mode and back whenever without losing train of thought.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Oct 2018 10:09:07 No.10105727 Report

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>>10104149
I very rarely have an inner voice. Sure I think better. But socializing is harder, I have to choose words that fit my thoughts, rather than just speaking easily without really focusing on synthesizing sentences. For most people that's automatic.
I think an inner voice is better for less abstract purposes, but I fare better in more abstract things. Such as math, societal observations, visualizations, visualizing architecture in my mind etc.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Oct 2018 10:15:09 No.10105737 Report

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>>10104149
Drugs

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Oct 2018 10:20:19 No.10105743 Report

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>>10105544

Yes, funnily enough IQ actually over-predicts Black performance relative to White in most areas.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_bFpmNSBiY

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Anonymous Tue 30 Oct 2018 10:21:57 No.10105746 Report

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>>10105743

However I should clarify that it has very high predicative validity for both groups.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Oct 2018 13:38:41 No.10105955 Report

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>>10104149
If you really get into something you're working on, this will happen automatically. You don't have to think about "turning it off", and trying to will probably be counterproductive.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Oct 2018 15:31:15 No.10106127 Report

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>>10105544
I think that it is good for evaluating overall abstract thinking, but I think of intelligence as a more complex process. IQ works because if you can reason correctly in the test is more likely that you can do WELL in life. However, I know the best mathematicians, physicists etc had high IQ, but there's smarter people according to the IQ scheme that can't come up with intuitive ideas like those made from other persons with lower IQ. I believe that empricism and the capacity of connecting phenomena is better for coming with new ideas. I think IQ tells me how easily someone can understand something, but doesn't tell me that he can come up with something. I believe in luck more than I believe IQ.

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