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How long until aging is curable?

Anonymous Fri 18 Jun 00:16:27 2021 No.13290707 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>13296756 >>13296970 >>13298534 >>13302096 >>13302112

Will humans ever cure this shit?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Jun 2021 04:14:33 No.13295660 Report

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>>13294669
The brain degenerates from the lack of copper. See how old age used to mean wisdom, while today it means dementia.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Jun 2021 06:01:10 No.13295843 Report

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>>13293769
This is obviously because of hormones and their bodies becoming weaker.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Jun 2021 11:19:49 No.13296553 Report

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>>13295843
no. people with hormone deficiencies are more violent. you'd have more of a point if you meant teenagers, but no one is suggesting a state of constant underdevelopment, just constant peak development

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Jun 2021 11:20:52 No.13296555 Report

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>>13294669
>Even if we find out how to grow perfectly functional organs and replace every body part we have, what will you do to the brain?
just ship of theseus the fucker. don't be a pussy

Jesus

Jesus Sat 19 Jun 2021 12:48:46 No.13296756 Report

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>>13290707
already.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Jun 2021 14:23:37 No.13296964 Report

Quoted By: >>13296990 >>13297128

https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/ui6mDLdqXkaXiDMJ5/core-pathways-of-aging

^ Such obvious simple explanation that it's basically a step by step guide to cure aging: Transposon suppression using siRNAs and piRNAS, enhancing DNA Repair using NAD+, Senescent Cell Clearance + epigenetic reprogramming should basically set you back 20 years.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Jun 2021 14:25:18 No.13296970 Report

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>>13290707
Aging isn't a disease so the use of the word "cure" is misplaced.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Jun 2021 14:36:40 No.13296990 Report

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>>13296964
>epigenetic reprogramming
I don't think it's the right way. We need to go for genetic reprogramming.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Jun 2021 15:24:26 No.13297118 Report

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>>13296970
yes it is

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Jun 2021 15:26:29 No.13297124 Report

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>>13297118
No it isn't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Jun 2021 15:27:33 No.13297128 Report

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>>13296964
Ok but can you explain how to do this in stupid person language?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Jun 2021 15:28:58 No.13297130 Report

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>>13297124
yes it is yes it is yes it is times infinity forever no takebacks

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Jun 2021 15:32:09 No.13297139 Report

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>>13297124
It is disease by every measure except some legal recognition of it as such.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87OUb8TBwX0

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Jun 2021 15:32:20 No.13297142 Report

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>>13293524
It gets worse friend. I’m 26 and the fear intensifies daily

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Jun 2021 17:36:28 No.13297461 Report

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>>13295843
>>13296553
>>13293769

Males with top levels of testosterone are aggressive.
In older males testosterone naturally declines with age, decreasing the aggressiveness, muscular mass, and sexual libido. Becoming docile, weak and frail.

But if you keep high levels of testosterone artificially forever indefinitely, older males could keep aggressiveness, muscle mass and sexual libido.

Testosterone alone don't prevent Brain decline /neuron degeneration tho.
But at least could prevent further decline of the Body.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Jun 2021 17:47:49 No.13297500 Report

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>>13297461
we can work on males as a concept after curing aging

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Anonymous Sat 19 Jun 2021 18:42:49 No.13297659 Report

Quoted By: >>13297722 >>13298334

>>13297461 >>13297500
A feminine vampire girl (or femboy) that never ages's testosterone levels would be low tho.

So calm and docile.... except during menstruation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Jun 2021 18:56:26 No.13297722 Report

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>>13297659
why do you people always seem to be so driven to force public displays of your deranged sexual fantasies on boards that are completely unrelated to the topic?
why so fixated on affectations unimaginatively acquired from japanese commercial media?
why do the rest of us always have to see it?

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Anonymous Sat 19 Jun 2021 19:08:04 No.13297765 Report

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>>13297722

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Anonymous Sat 19 Jun 2021 19:26:15 No.13297832 Report

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>>13297722
I like seeing it, shut the fuck up bitch

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Jun 2021 21:27:29 No.13298334 Report

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>>13297722
While some of us may like those specific aesthetics, there are actually good arguments for loli vampires as a metaphor for various ways to reengineer human biology.
>Smaller bodies require fewer resources and age more slowly (within a species, between species larger animals are generally longer-lived).
>As >>13297659 notes there’s no need for excess aggression (or males, for that matter) if we’re engineering a longer-lived human, especially given the need for greater social harmony if we imagine an expanding population.
Even if sexual fantasies may play a role, I think this ties in well with ongoing discussions about ways to engineer future humans in the context of ending aging.

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Anonymous Sat 19 Jun 2021 21:32:59 No.13298347 Report

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everyone itt will die

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Anonymous Sat 19 Jun 2021 21:38:06 No.13298362 Report

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>>13298347
We all die. But not all of us actually live.
And even fewer dare to do anything about it.

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Anonymous Sat 19 Jun 2021 22:35:50 No.13298534 Report

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>>13290707
>How long until aging is curable?

Can not be done... unless you are OK with cloning yourself and slaughtering your identical twin for spare parts, over and over and over again

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Jun 2021 22:36:20 No.13298537 Report

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>>13298334
very true. if we go the route of immortality, and even if we don't, with most tasks being automated or low labor, it is unconscionable to not turn everyone into tiny lolis

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Jun 2021 22:38:04 No.13298546 Report

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>>13298534
>can not be done
entirely against everything we know about aging. absolutely could in theory be done. the question is when or if, but the "is it possible" is solved. it's possible. we've done it in rats, we've done it with side effects, we've done it a thousand times in tests. it's about finding a safe and viable methodology

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Jun 2021 22:40:46 No.13298556 Report

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>>13298546
>we've done it in rats,

Lab rats live 2-4 years.
Show me the 20 year old lab rat.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Jun 2021 22:48:09 No.13298592 Report

Quoted By: >>13298671 >>13298764

>>13298556
no one is competing for longest lived lab mice, why would there be one particularly longlived? also the "side effects" are cluster cancer tumors

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Anonymous Sat 19 Jun 2021 23:00:25 No.13298648 Report

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>>13297722
Loli vampires are related to anti ageing topic tho.

Isn't the topic of this thread anti-ageing/ eternal youth / life extension?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Jun 2021 23:04:47 No.13298671 Report

Quoted By: >>13298769 >>13299430

>>13298592

So you can NOT show a 20 year old lab rat, yet you insist that "we've done it in rats".

No, you have not cured ageing. You have drugged up a few animals and extended their lives in ways that lead to cancerous wretched lives.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Jun 2021 23:06:56 No.13298678 Report

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>>13291046
Based Sinclair.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Jun 2021 23:35:26 No.13298764 Report

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>>13298592
>no one is competing for longest lived lab mice
what the fuck, why not?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Jun 2021 23:36:28 No.13298769 Report

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>>13298671
>extended their lives
no, reversed aging, specifically.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Jun 2021 23:44:20 No.13298798 Report

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>>13298769
>>extended their lives
>no, reversed aging, specifically.

If you have reversed aging then have you not then extended lifetime?

I see no 20 year old lab rats!!!

Until I see REAL results, a fucking healthy 20 year old lab, I am saying that this research is academic and not practical.
Tax payer money should be used to support further research, but not a large amount because there are other research area that have proven practical results that would sooner aid mankind.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Jun 2021 00:03:05 No.13298851 Report

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>>13298764
ethics? genuinely seems kinda like a based idea, competition breeds innovation in science

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Jun 2021 03:44:18 No.13299430 Report

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>>13298671
It has been done with rats (connect a young rat to an old one, abd it gets younger) The methusaleh mouse is for mice and mice are too small for this I think. I don't know.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Jun 2021 06:03:11 No.13299753 Report

Quoted By: >>13299776 >>13299778 >>13300444

>>13299430

Still no 20 year old lab rat!

Show me ACTUAL PROOF that anti-aging research has WORKED.
Producing an animal that is 7-10 times older than the average death age for that animal AND is healthy and strong.

I will GLADLY give up half of everything I will ever earn if you can keep my body at a perpetual 27 years old.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Jun 2021 06:13:21 No.13299776 Report

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>>13299753
>Still no 20 year old lab rat!
We report a new record for the world's longest-lived rodent, a male naked mole rat (Heterocephalus glaber). On the basis of his weight at capture, this animal was approximately 1 year old when collected near Mtito Andei, Kenya in July/August 1974. He died in April 2002, indicating that he lived for more than 28 years.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Jun 2021 06:14:54 No.13299778 Report

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>>13299753
>Show me ACTUAL PROOF that anti-aging research has WORKED.
This week the oldest mouse in the world died. His name was Yoda and he was a genetically altered dwarf mouse who lived to be 4 years old, around double the age of normal mice; in people years he would have been about 135 years old.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Jun 2021 06:19:05 No.13299788 Report

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>>13299776
>a male naked mole rat (Heterocephalus glaber).

So how long does this animal normally live?
is normal life expectancy 24 years so 28 is super old?

Nowhere do I see how researchers made this animal live MULTIPLES of the normal life span.

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Anonymous Sun 20 Jun 2021 06:22:12 No.13299803 Report

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>>13299778
>in people years he would have been about 135 years old.

This is not curing aging, that extending lifespan, was the animal HEALTHY AND STRONG.

Who wants to live an extra 35 years in a 100 year old decrepit body?

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Anonymous Sun 20 Jun 2021 06:27:38 No.13299819 Report

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>>13299803
It most definitely was healthy and strong longer.
Because getting old IS dying. Death is not a momentary process, but a process beginning even before we're born.
Also young blood (that experiment with two mice sewn together) rejuvenates (that old mouse was getting younger) and though this experiment was discredited for political reasons (not make people start asking questions about why are they blood-tested so much as children) that probably IS the oldest working rejuvenation technique and the actual reason beyond every single war throughout history.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Jun 2021 11:38:57 No.13300444 Report

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>>13299753
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/320846470_The_Fountain_of_Youth_A_Tale_of_Parabiosis_Stem_Cells_and_Rejuvenation

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Jun 2021 19:19:32 No.13301929 Report

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>>13291856
listen to it faggot, his area of research is slowing down and reversing aging itself (not just keeping old people alive for longer on medicine or whatever)

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Anonymous Sun 20 Jun 2021 19:57:37 No.13302096 Report

Quoted By: >>13302204

>>13290707
I really really hope God has made it so it can't be done. Imagine terror on Earth if all the evil didn't get wiped off like regular people do.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Jun 2021 20:01:54 No.13302112 Report

Quoted By: >>13302210

>>13290707
No. Also, aging isn't bad, wasting your life is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Jun 2021 20:25:52 No.13302204 Report

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>>13302096
In the world where people have no hope for tyrants to die naturally, they will have no other choice but to fight. And in such world people will value their life more and would try to make friends instead of enemies. And they will care about the planet more, because they're not going nowhere.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Jun 2021 20:26:59 No.13302210 Report

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>>13302112
If you are not spending you life to cure aging, you're wasting it more than you think. Now think.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Jun 2021 20:56:32 No.13302330 Report

Quoted By: >>13302424

>>13302204
I don't think you can imagine giving someone few thousand years of rule, there would be no concept of friends, or love, or weapons or fight, it would be literal Hell ruled by demons.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Jun 2021 21:13:12 No.13302424 Report

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>>13302330
We'll be demons too. Don't forget, immortality will be available to everybody. And new technologies are developed secretly all the time. No tyrant would want to be the target of those geniuses. What thousand years, those faggots won't last a decade in this new scenario if they keep on playing their old roles.

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