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Anonymous Tue 16 Jan 11:42:33 2018 No.98127508 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>98127565 >>98127626 >>98128227 >>98128770 >>98128966 >>98128977 >>98129261 >>98140427 >>98141302 >>98145071

>Character has flaws
>/co/ autistically screeches when they do

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Anonymous Tue 16 Jan 2018 11:45:51 No.98127538 Report

Quoted By: >>98127863

CHILLING OUT WITH THE CREW AT THE SCHOOL YARD

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Anonymous Tue 16 Jan 2018 11:49:19 No.98127565 Report

Quoted By: >>98128932

>>98127508
Flaws are what make a character interesting

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jan 2018 11:51:02 No.98127584 Report

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>I didn't know he was a doctor.
>I didn't know he was a dude.

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Anonymous Tue 16 Jan 2018 11:51:58 No.98127590 Report

Quoted By: >>98127883

>PHD in dueling

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jan 2018 11:57:35 No.98127626 Report

Quoted By: >>98127660 >>98127869 >>98128694

>>98127508
Why can't /co/ just admit that characters that are borderline Mary Sues are better? If I went to spend time with unlikable assholes, I'd shut off my device and talk to my family.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jan 2018 12:01:08 No.98127660 Report

Quoted By: >>98127847

>>98127626
Better for you, but some of us have standards

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jan 2018 12:25:46 No.98127847 Report

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>>98127660
>/co/
>standards

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jan 2018 12:28:49 No.98127863 Report

Quoted By: >>98130211

>>98127538
FINDIN’ TROUBLE, NEVER LOOKIN’ TOO HARD

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jan 2018 12:29:16 No.98127869 Report

Quoted By: >>98127938

>>98127626
>Why can't /co/ just admit that characters that are borderline Mary Sues are better?
This has never been the case of any media ever, or at least any good media. Even if you go as far back as early roman and greek tales, and the heroes journy shit, the main characters always struggle. That's what makes them interesting.

Characters who don't struggle and are either borderline or straight up Mary sues are what current marvel is filled with. Nobody is buying those comics compared to sales of years ago.

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Anonymous Tue 16 Jan 2018 12:31:18 No.98127883 Report

Quoted By: >>98128353

>>98127590
>loses to random teenager

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jan 2018 12:41:47 No.98127938 Report

Quoted By: >>98127976 >>98128160

>>98127869
Heracles didn't struggle really. I mean yeah he murdered his wife and kids as far as i remember but thats doesn't free him from Mary Sue status.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jan 2018 12:48:25 No.98127976 Report

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>>98127938
Hera fucked him over every step of the way

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jan 2018 13:14:09 No.98128160 Report

Quoted By: >>98134310

>>98127938
>Heracles didn't struggle really.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labours_of_Hercules
The biggest of the Hercules stories are about how he has to find a way to overcome seemingly impossible odds.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jan 2018 13:19:58 No.98128227 Report

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>>98127508
I think the real complaint is when a character has flaws but they never lead to consequences, the flaws don't mean anything for the story, they are just there to be an item in a checklist labeled "My character is not a Mary Sue doe" They're mostly job interview flaws.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jan 2018 13:34:59 No.98128353 Report

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>>98127883
He was the reincarnation of the supreme king

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jan 2018 14:16:40 No.98128694 Report

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>>98127626
/co/ definition of Mary Sue is 'character I don't like instead of what it actually means'

Most of the characters /co/ claims to be Mary Sues are actually flawed characters or characters who are competent.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jan 2018 14:27:41 No.98128770 Report

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>>98127508
I remember when the news in my country talked about the police stopping a shipment of counterfeit Yu-gi-oh cards. Felt like something straight out of the cartoon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jan 2018 14:34:13 No.98128827 Report

Quoted By: >>98128992

Why must it always be extremes with /co/? Why must it be Batgod-tier Mary Sue or an asshole-ish loser like Jessica Jones?
I just want characters who are competent and likable AND face struggles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jan 2018 14:45:01 No.98128932 Report

Quoted By: >>98128985

>>98127565
>posts THE biggest writing fail in cartoon history
>thinks it proves a point

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Anonymous Tue 16 Jan 2018 14:47:49 No.98128966 Report

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>>98127508
>Character is boring, whiny and drags the show down every time they're on screen
>Multiple blogs feature top 15 lists on why the character is "refreshing"

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Anonymous Tue 16 Jan 2018 14:48:31 No.98128977 Report

Quoted By: >>98134187 >>98134326

>>98127508
Fuck off Crowler, I already have to deal with your busted deck in Duel Links.

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Anonymous Tue 16 Jan 2018 14:49:43 No.98128985 Report

Quoted By: >>98129200

>>98128932
>posts THE biggest writing fail in cartoon history
>zuko webm
??
explain your opinion so I can laugh at it

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jan 2018 14:50:07 No.98128992 Report

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>>98128827
It's hard to write a balanced character so we have no choice but to pick either extreme. Also, likeability is subjective.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jan 2018 15:10:18 No.98129200 Report

Quoted By: >>98134656

>>98128985
I mean that specific scene, and what comes of it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jan 2018 15:16:45 No.98129261 Report

Quoted By: >>98129538

>>98127508
One example.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jan 2018 15:41:31 No.98129538 Report

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>>98129261
your diary

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Anonymous Tue 16 Jan 2018 15:54:13 No.98129683 Report

Quoted By: >>98137865

>That time an alien dolphin lured a teenage boy into his rape cave

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jan 2018 16:42:43 No.98130211 Report

Quoted By: >>98131458

>>98127863
BACK AT CLASS THEY NEVER TAUGHT US THIS

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jan 2018 17:23:47 No.98130707 Report

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You see, there is a big difference between intended character flaws that have a narrative purpose, and an author shittying out a character and dismissing all criticism with "They're flawed!!!"

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jan 2018 17:25:52 No.98130741 Report

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In the German dub, she is voiced by the same guy who also voices Spongebob.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jan 2018 17:28:44 No.98130775 Report

Quoted By: >>98142851

Lets take Korra for example, she is flawed as fuck, but the writting never adresses those flaws in a way that is narratively meaningful.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jan 2018 18:15:22 No.98131458 Report

Quoted By: >>98132166

>>98130211
SOME THINGS YOU GOTTA LEARN, HIT OR MISS

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jan 2018 18:58:35 No.98132166 Report

Quoted By: >>98132995

>>98131458
TOUGH TIMES

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jan 2018 19:48:28 No.98132995 Report

Quoted By: >>98133553

>>98132166
HARD CLIMBS

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jan 2018 20:19:04 No.98133553 Report

Quoted By: >>98134139

>>98132995
WE’LL TAKE ‘EM ON TOGETHER

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jan 2018 20:56:23 No.98134139 Report

Quoted By: >>98134618

>>98133553
RIGHT NOW

LET'S GO

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jan 2018 20:59:07 No.98134187 Report

Quoted By: >>98134268 >>98141293

>>98128977
At least Ancient Gears is slightly less common than fucking Gladiator Beasts. That shit is supremely annoying

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Anonymous Tue 16 Jan 2018 20:59:49 No.98134203 Report

Quoted By: >>98136250 >>98138279 >>98141866 >>98145224

>Character has flaws
>Show has flaws
>Plot has flaws
>Rather than shrugging and going "yea that kinda sucks but eh it's bearable" the flaw is turned into this horrific cancer that destroys the show and makes it a pile of shit that's completely irredeemable and any discussion about said show is invariably dragged back to this flaw.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jan 2018 21:03:17 No.98134268 Report

Quoted By: >>98148641

>>98134187
Yeah, but Gladiator Beats are pretty much useless without backrow. Bamboo Swords are by far the biggest cancer right now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jan 2018 21:05:42 No.98134310 Report

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>>98128160
Most stories about Heracles have an alternative version where he just hits things really hard with a club to solve the problem. So yeah, I guess he does overcome things.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jan 2018 21:06:44 No.98134326 Report

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>>98128977
>Duel Links

Found the problem

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jan 2018 21:24:58 No.98134618 Report

Quoted By: >>98136004

>>98134139
YU-GI-OH GX, GENERATION NEXT!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jan 2018 21:26:46 No.98134656 Report

Quoted By: >>98141772

>>98129200
we know the scene you're talking about you fucking neanderthal, you're not explaining why it's a "fail"

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jan 2018 22:45:40 No.98136004 Report

Quoted By: >>98137722

>>98134618
COME ON, GET YOUR GAME ON

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Anonymous Tue 16 Jan 2018 23:02:52 No.98136250 Report

Quoted By: >>98141633

>>98134203

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jan 2018 23:27:32 No.98136585 Report

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GOIN FAST MAKES ME FEEL ALIVE

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jan 2018 23:29:17 No.98136616 Report

Quoted By:

YOUR MOVE

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 00:38:20 No.98137722 Report

Quoted By: >>98137779

>>98136004
COME ON YA BETTER PLAY YOUR CARDS RIGHT

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 00:42:24 No.98137779 Report

Quoted By: >>98141664 >>98150134

>>98137722
COME ON, GET YOUR GAME ON

WE'LL MAKE THE GRADE AND WIN THIS FIGHT

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 00:46:46 No.98137865 Report

Quoted By: >>98138113 >>98141305

>>98129683
>That time, the same teenager caused a genocide and then astral fuck a hermaphrodite demon

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 01:01:04 No.98138113 Report

Quoted By: >>98138418 >>98138615

>>98137865
>hermaphrodite demon
Yubel is 100% female even if she had a past life as a guy. Yubel is best girl

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 01:08:21 No.98138279 Report

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>>98134203
But Beerus is based

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Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 01:14:20 No.98138418 Report

Quoted By: >>98138452

>>98138113
No she's not anon, her card even shows that she has a boob and male peck, her hips has one lucking more femenine than the other and she speaks in two voices one female and one male

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 01:15:50 No.98138452 Report

Quoted By: >>98138493

>>98138418
just breast cancer and she only made it to half of leg day

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Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 01:17:17 No.98138493 Report

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>>98138452
stretching this hard kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 01:22:56 No.98138615 Report

Quoted By: >>98138625

>>98138113
Anon just acceptit, Judai was gay

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 01:23:28 No.98138625 Report

Quoted By: >>98138694

>>98138615
gay for that pussy

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Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 01:26:46 No.98138694 Report

Quoted By: >>98138714

>>98138625
Scandinavian boypussy

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 01:27:37 No.98138714 Report

Quoted By: >>98138753 >>98138760

>>98138694
if he loved Johan so much why didnt he fuse with him

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 01:29:02 No.98138753 Report

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>>98138714
Easy, fuse with your waifu, then fuck your husbando for maximum pleasure

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 01:29:31 No.98138760 Report

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>>98138714
Can't have sex if you're one body

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 01:33:39 No.98138883 Report

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The only reason I watched GX right here.
Original was cash though.

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Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 01:35:57 No.98138960 Report

Quoted By: >>98139050 >>98139151 >>98139980 >>98140678

The only reason I watched GX right here.
Original was cash though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 01:39:29 No.98139050 Report

Quoted By:

>>98138960
she is worst girl

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 01:43:49 No.98139151 Report

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>>98138960
>Judai choose his cardfu over asuka
Truly /our/guy

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Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 02:15:17 No.98139980 Report

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>>98138960
>Not the theme song
>Not the idea of an entire academy built on dueling
>Not for the duel between Yugi and Jaden
>Being a waifufag
No. No no no no no.

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Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 02:34:16 No.98140427 Report

Quoted By: >>98141263 >>98141301

>>98127508
Are Yugioh Live Scripted Duels kino?
>Pegasus's toons trigger Marik so much he turns evil

>How did you know what card I drew?!
>I used my millenium rod to take control of the camera-man and zoom in on your hand!
https://youtu.be/x3myCWZuI74?t=1061

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 02:46:07 No.98140678 Report

Quoted By:

>>98138960
GX had a much better selection than the original series.

But none of them are the perfect reverse trap.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 03:12:11 No.98141263 Report

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>>98140427
Pegasus was truly a /co/mrade

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Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 03:13:57 No.98141293 Report

Quoted By: >>98141391

>>98134187
If you think the Glad Beasts they DID put in are bad, then thank your lucky stars they didn't add Gyzarus.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 03:14:35 No.98141301 Report

Quoted By:

>>98140427
>pause the video
>get disappointed that Toon Winged Dragon of Ra isn't a real card

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 03:14:42 No.98141302 Report

Quoted By:

>>98127508
>whinny effeminate faggot who cant even handle a bunch of kids hes supposed to be teaching
>unironically runs one of the best decks in the whole show

Croweler should never have lost to those slackers

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 03:14:55 No.98141305 Report

Quoted By: >>98141452 >>98141567

>>98137865
To this day it amazes me that Jaden probably has the highest kill count in the franchise and the show just kind of glances over it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 03:19:33 No.98141391 Report

Quoted By:

>>98141293
>start playing
>no idea what to buy
>start getting stuff for pyramid of meme light deck
>accidentally get almost all the cards for GB deck and later find out it's good
feels good man

Also, careful what you say, they might add the GB dullest from GX later along with Gyzarus.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 03:22:56 No.98141452 Report

Quoted By: >>98141533

>>98141305
He has the second jighest kill count, the MC for Arc V literally destroyed some universes

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 03:27:17 No.98141533 Report

Quoted By: >>98141627 >>98145354

>>98141452
What about personal kill count?

You know, kills dealt to people that the MC at least talked to before offing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 03:28:54 No.98141567 Report

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>>98141305
They only went to the stars not die

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 03:32:38 No.98141627 Report

Quoted By: >>98141653 >>98141714

>>98141533
I couldn't tell then, i mean i don't think Judai new most of the people he kill in the monster dimension, but i can tell that Yuya knew some of the people that killed in universe, but his GX multiver counterpart was a dictator that used the academy and ancient golems to invade and conquer dimension, so maybe people that specialize in fusion monster are just fucked up

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 03:32:56 No.98141633 Report

Quoted By: >>98142187

>>98136250
that speech bubble is shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 03:34:36 No.98141653 Report

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>>98141627
Remove Fusion
Xyz stronk

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 03:35:11 No.98141664 Report

Quoted By: >>98142796

>>98137779

WE'LL MAKE THE GRADE SOMEHOW!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 03:37:47 No.98141714 Report

Quoted By: >>98141800

>>98141627
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SA0yAkuids
Anyone have the one with the golem and GX opening?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 03:41:28 No.98141772 Report

Quoted By: >>98146845

>>98134656
Because Zuko's decision was one of if not the main factor that trashed the entirety of Book 3.

The script was rewritten very late to stop Zutara.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 03:42:39 No.98141800 Report

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>>98141714
God i hate how Arc-V became shit, pre-synchro it was great

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 03:45:17 No.98141866 Report

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>>98134203
Pic not related?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 04:02:45 No.98142187 Report

Quoted By: >>98145259

>>98141633
It really is. The whole comic is kind of a slog to read for how bad the panel layout is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 04:33:36 No.98142796 Report

Quoted By: >>98146931

>>98141664
GAME ON, GET YOUR GAME ON,

COME ON NOW BATTLE PLAY YOUR CARD RIGHT!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 04:35:54 No.98142851 Report

Quoted By: >>98151810

>>98130775
I’d argue that Korra is actually a good flawed character trapped in a narrative that doesn’t let her grow or face consequences.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 04:37:37 No.98142882 Report

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>character plays card games

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Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 04:41:43 No.98142959 Report

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>character gets the best homages in later series

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 06:26:54 No.98144440 Report

Quoted By: >>98145171

It's another off-topic /co/ thread

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 07:26:06 No.98145071 Report

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>>98127508
>Show has episodes of downtime to humanize the characters
>/co/ autistically screeches "FIIIIILLLLERRRR"

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 07:35:38 No.98145171 Report

Quoted By: >>98146823

>>98144440
you know yugioh is a cartoon right

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 07:40:50 No.98145224 Report

Quoted By:

>>98134203
It's Korra, right? Obviously.

Fuck Beerus though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 07:44:54 No.98145259 Report

Quoted By:

>>98142187
that's what you get for trying to read your gay space lizard porn

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 07:54:44 No.98145354 Report

Quoted By:

>>98141533
Everyone Jaden "killed" in season 3 was sent to another dimension and we're eventually put back in their original ones.
Atem killed a lot of people for very petty reasons in season 0

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 09:47:30 No.98146339 Report

Quoted By: >>98146342

remember when Dio got into duel monsters?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 09:48:32 No.98146342 Report

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>>98146339
and I forget the link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLOsSI8OhNo

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 10:48:13 No.98146823 Report

Quoted By: >>98149734

>>98145171
its fucking anime

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 10:50:37 No.98146845 Report

Quoted By: >>98146965

>>98141772
It didn't ruin Book 3 at all
There's nothing wrong with how it went, it may've been frustrating but it wasn't bad writing and made Zuko's transition more natural
>The script was rewritten very late to stop Zutara
oh you're one of *them*
gotcha

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 11:01:08 No.98146931 Report

Quoted By: >>98147018

>>98142796
COME ON & GET YOUR GAME OOOON!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 11:05:15 No.98146965 Report

Quoted By: >>98147079

>>98146845
>It didn't ruin Book 3 at all
It gave us random wandering-around plots and then failed characterization in several cases.
>you're one of *them*
Nope. Nice attempt at deflection, though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 11:13:49 No.98147018 Report

Quoted By:

>>98146931
That was nice.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 11:23:20 No.98147079 Report

Quoted By:

>>98146965
>It gave us random wandering-around plots
er like?
It was important that Zuko wasn't a part of the group so we could see what's happening in the Fire Nation—so Zuko could hear Ozai's plan and figure out about Sozin's past, so we could get Ember Island, etc etc.
And it gave Zuko's redemption that extra "oomf", it would've been too fast if Zuko turned good in Book 2. Necessary for drama. Necessary for characterization, despite what you may think.
Glad you weren't a writer for the show.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 14:21:58 No.98148641 Report

Quoted By:

>>98134268
>Bamboo Swords
Just googled this, holy fuck, it's exploitable as shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 15:39:49 No.98149734 Report

Quoted By:

>>98146823
nah

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 16:03:37 No.98150134 Report

Quoted By:

>>98137779
GET ON THE DECK! GET ON THE DECK

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 17:40:38 No.98151810 Report

Quoted By:

>>98142851
>or face consequences.
She faces consequences but, much like the show, they don't make sense. Also she's a good flawed character surrounded by one note characters who are perfect little angels that the narrative never scrutinizes because there is, more than likely, nothing there.

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Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 18:24:01 No.98152673 Report

Quoted By: >>98153935

CHILDREN CARdGAMES

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 19:32:39 No.98153935 Report

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>>98152673
If Yusei's the protag I'd watch it.

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