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Anonymous Tue 07 Nov 14:55:48 2017 No.96583969 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>96585431 >>96587610 >>96590793 >>96599279 >>96600802

What are the worst episodes of B:TAS? Episodes that if you rewatched the series you might as well skip.

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Anonymous Tue 07 Nov 2017 15:10:03 No.96584246 Report

Quoted By: >>96584347 >>96584584 >>96584675 >>96585052 >>96585096 >>96585363 >>96585431 >>96592324

Any of them that aren't from The Batman, the truly superior Batman cartoon

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Nov 2017 15:15:05 No.96584347 Report

Quoted By: >>96592203

>>96584246
>being this subjectively right
I think those are all fine, but I wouldn't call any of them the best.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Nov 2017 15:28:29 No.96584584 Report

Quoted By: >>96592203

>>96584246
You need to stop spamming this in every BTAS thread.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Nov 2017 15:32:16 No.96584675 Report

Quoted By: >>96592203

>>96584246
>8/9 of the cartoons are from the exact same time period

Gee, I wonder when you were a little kid.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Nov 2017 15:48:18 No.96585052 Report

Quoted By: >>96585193 >>96592203

>>96584246
Why haven't the mods banned you? You're annoying and spam your chart everywhere.

What do you do for a living?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Nov 2017 15:50:17 No.96585096 Report

Quoted By: >>96592203

>>96584246
Inb4 Gravity Falls is replaced by W.I.T.C.H.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Nov 2017 15:53:47 No.96585193 Report

Quoted By: >>96592203

>>96585052
>What do you do for a living?
Considering he was clearly a kid in the mid-2000s, I doubt he's out of college. I mean he'll probably get some bullshit degree built on a series of 'C-'s, but right now he's some 19 year old kid riding on his parent's dime.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Nov 2017 16:02:01 No.96585363 Report

Quoted By: >>96592203

>>96584246
How old are you?

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Anonymous Tue 07 Nov 2017 16:05:36 No.96585431 Report

Quoted By: >>96585528 >>96585634 >>96585760 >>96586949 >>96587208 >>96588013 >>96588074 >>96588138 >>96589490 >>96592485 >>96592888 >>96595398 >>96596230 >>96598170 >>96599453 >>96599963 >>96600768

>>96583969
Let me give a non-meme answer.
Generally you can split the bad episodes of TAS into two categories: the ones that are objectively awful that no one defends and even the creators disowned, and the ones that aren't quite as infamous but still aren't well remembered

In the first category we have
>Batman In My Basement
>any episode Sean Derek was involved in (POV, The Forgotten, Prophecy of Doom, and the 4 Catwoman episodes she wrote). You can actually pinpoint most of the problems with B:TAS squarely on her.
>The Terrible Trio
>Tyger Tyger
>The Underdwellers

In the second
>Cape and Cowl Conspiracy
>Lock-Up
>Tyger Tyger
>The Terrible Trio
>Moon of the Wolf
>The Mechanic
>Christmas With The Joker

That's 18 episodes in a series of 85. Pretty great track record if you ask me.
But of course memelords like >>96584246 will say the majority of the series was ackshually bad and the good episodes were flukes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Nov 2017 16:10:27 No.96585528 Report

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>>96585431
>and the 4 Catwoman episodes she wrote
I think it's kind of funny that almost all the BTAS Catwoman episodes were terrible, but then they made a 10/10 short featuring her

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vt_27bqy8S4

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Anonymous Tue 07 Nov 2017 16:13:32 No.96585584 Report

Quoted By: >>96585683 >>96587088

I honestly think The Batman Adventures comics were better than the show itself and possibly the best Batman comics of the past 25 years.
Same setting, same creative team, but with much more freedom to develop the characters and stories without a 22 minute runtime constraint or executive meddling.
All that's missing is the wonderful voice actors and animation but you get used to hearing them in your head if you watched enough TAS

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Nov 2017 16:16:54 No.96585634 Report

Quoted By: >>96585683 >>96585721 >>96598062

>>96585431
>The Forgotten

I unironically like this episode. It's weird, I know, but the music and the villain are so strange for a Batman show. And the bizarre scene where the Batcomputer sasses back at Alfred.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Nov 2017 16:19:34 No.96585683 Report

Quoted By: >>96585786

>>96585584
I liked the one issue of Batman Adventures where the Riddler tries to open a checking account.

>>96585634
>but the music and the villain are so strange for a Batman show.
Shirley Walker is the best. She always did great work with the music.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Nov 2017 16:21:23 No.96585721 Report

Quoted By: >>96585786

>>96585634
Even on the worst episodes Shirley Walker always delivered with the music

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Nov 2017 16:23:07 No.96585760 Report

Quoted By: >>96585817 >>96585992

>>96585431
>That's 18 episodes in a series of 85. Pretty great track record if you ask me.

What about TNBA? I've always just considered that the 3rd season of the show.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Nov 2017 16:24:49 No.96585786 Report

Quoted By: >>96586057

>>96585683
>>96585721
That's true. Shirley Walker was incredible. I always think of a Bullet for Bullock with its straight jazz.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Nov 2017 16:25:55 No.96585817 Report

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>>96585760
A lot of people don't like the change in the art and the characterization, but it's canon to the DCAU and there are plenty of solid episodes there. I don't mind it at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Nov 2017 16:34:56 No.96585992 Report

Quoted By: >>96586927

>>96585760
The list counts Season 1 and 2 (The Adventures of Batman & Robin). The New Batman Adventures is technically a third season but the changes in art style, characterization and tone, and the different reception, is enough to warrant it's own list. It's a different subject.

It has it's ups and downs. I dislike most of the changes it brought to the show and overall I'd place it way lower than Batman TAS and Batman Beyond. But it's not really bad and there's plenty of episodes that I really like in it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Nov 2017 16:37:51 No.96586057 Report

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>>96585786
Everytime I remember Shirley Walker is dead I feel really sad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Nov 2017 17:21:35 No.96586927 Report

Quoted By: >>96589568 >>96600707

>>96585992
I think TNBA gets too bad of a rap. It had some episodes that can get ranked up there with the best of BTAS:
Mad Love (admittedly ripped from the comic)
Over the Edge
Growing Pains
Legends of the Dark Knight
Old Wounds

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Nov 2017 17:22:52 No.96586949 Report

Quoted By: >>96596884

>>96585431
Sean Catherine Derek is currently doing the King Kong and Tarzan shows for Netflix. They're every bit as preachy about environmental issues as you'd think.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Nov 2017 17:29:33 No.96587088 Report

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>>96585584
Pretty much. I even liked the final run before it got cancelled, which /co/ now retroactively hates because Dan Slott was involved in it. It is rare for a comic tie-in to outlast the show it was based on.

That's also how I feel about The Batman Strikes! as an improvement to the show it was based on. It actually used and built on the one-shot characters the show introduced and ignored.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Nov 2017 17:37:06 No.96587208 Report

Quoted By: >>96587226 >>96587303 >>96588253 >>96595214

>>96585431
POV is actually good though. I enjoyed Cape and Cowl Conspiracy but I think it should have been a Riddler episode.

Also fuck you Christmas with the Joker is fantastic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Nov 2017 17:38:27 No.96587226 Report

Quoted By: >>96588253

>>96587208
I honestly think Christmas with the Joker is a perfectly fine episode. I just put in the list because people seem to dislike it

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Nov 2017 17:42:13 No.96587303 Report

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>>96587208
Cape and Cowl Conspiracy was an adaptation of a comic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Nov 2017 17:44:46 No.96587359 Report

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Anyone with Red Claw.

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Anonymous Tue 07 Nov 2017 17:57:45 No.96587610 Report

Quoted By: >>96587906 >>96588138 >>96595105 >>96600008 >>96600038 >>96600113

>>96583969
Lemme get a quick list here of what and why.

>The Forgotten
Bruce Wayne blunders around in an amnesiac fog for 15 minutes while being roughed up by some random fat fuck.
>I've Got Batman in My Basement
Most of the episode focuses on a couple of irritating kids. Not much payoff for it.
>See No Evil
Tragic villain episode where nothing happens for the majority of it.
>The Cape and Cowl Conspiracy
Not really a bad episode all in all, but they have a Riddler stand-in after going almost half the series without him.
>Tyger Tyger
The Island of Doctor Moreau, except the writer is clearly jacking off.
>Blind as a Bat
Batman can't see. He walks around slowly and angst-ly for the entire episode.
>Critters
A farm-themed villain who does farm-themed things for farm-vengeance. Gets tiresome pretty quickly.

Most of the other ones have the good outweighing the bad.

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Anonymous Tue 07 Nov 2017 18:10:10 No.96587906 Report

Quoted By: >>96587978 >>96595105

>>96587610
>Blind As A Bat
>Batman can't see. He walks around slowly and angst-ly for the entire episode
Not really. Blind As A Bat is one of the most action heavy episodes of the series. Bruce is not even as mopey in it as he is in most other episodes.
Most of it consists of the fight between Batman and Penguin.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Nov 2017 18:13:47 No.96587978 Report

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>>96587906
The fight was most of the episode, yeah, but it was mostly Batman stumbling and blundering around until the last minute.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Nov 2017 18:15:43 No.96588013 Report

Quoted By: >>96589161

>>96585431
>Batman In My Basement

>tfw /co/ hates this episode but loved it when I saw it as a kid

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Minifig !!3kTkiqN0Gwz Tue 07 Nov 2017 18:19:46 No.96588074 Report

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>>96585431
I liked The Terrible Trio, if only because they managed to give some shitty 50's villains a) decent costumes and b) some kind of motivation. Also, it was nice to see a rich bad guy boasting about all his connections and immediately seeing that he got his just desserts.

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Anonymous Tue 07 Nov 2017 18:23:17 No.96588138 Report

Quoted By: >>96588274

>>96585431
>>96587610
>hating the forgotten
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=og_9jWFEDkc

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Nov 2017 18:29:31 No.96588253 Report

Quoted By: >>96593589

>>96587226
>>96587208
Christmas with the Joker gets a bad rap because of the terrible animation in that episode. Off model Joker everywhere.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Nov 2017 18:30:11 No.96588274 Report

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>>96588138
Unrankle yourself, son, nobody's badmouthing the music.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Nov 2017 19:12:20 No.96589161 Report

Quoted By: >>96589502 >>96593385 >>96595172 >>96600068

Personal list:

Essentials:

Two Face, Part 1 and 2
Heart of Ice
Beware the Gray Ghost
Feat of Clay, Part 1 and 2
Joker's Favor
Vendetta
The Clock King
Perchance to Dream
Robin's Reckoning, Part 1 and 2
Night of the Ninja
If You're So Smart, Why Aren't You Rich?
Almost Got 'Im
Birds of a Feather
The Man Who Killed Batman
The Demon's Quest, part 1 and 2
His Silicon Soul
Baby Doll
Showdown
Harley's Holiday
Mask of the Phantasm

Recommended:

On Leather Wings
Nothing to Fear
The Last Laugh
Pretty Poison
P.O.V.
Be a Clown
It's Never Too Late
Fear of Victory
Appointment at Crime Alley
Mad As a Hatter
Dreams in Darkness
The Laughing Fish
Heart of Steel, part 1 and 2
Joker's Wild
Day of the Samurai
Terror in the Sky
I am the Night
Mudslide
Paging the Crime Doctor
Zatanna
Harley and Ivy
Blind as a Bat
Shadow of the Bat, part 1 and 2
Read My Lips
Sideshow
A Bullet for Bullock
Trial
Harleyquinade
Time Out of Joint
Bane
Riddler's Return
Second Chance
Deep Freeze
Batgirl Returns
Batman & Mr. Freeze: SubZero

Mixed bag but worth watching:

Christmas with the Joker
The Forgotten
Eternal Youth
What is Reality?
The Mechanic
Avatar
Time Out of Joint
Lock Up
Make 'Em Laugh
Fire From Olympus

Ehhh...

The Cat and Claw, Part 1 and 2
See No Evil
The Cape and Cowl Conspiracy
The Strange Secret of Bruce Wayne
Moon of the Wolf
Off Balance
House & Garden
Catwalk
The Lion and the Unicorn

Completionists only:

The Underdwellers
I've Got Batman in My Basement
Prophecy of Doom
Cat Scratch Fever
Tyger Tyger
The Worry Men
The Terrible Trio

>>96588013

I understand the problems people have with it but I can't bring myself to hate that episode since it's really Encyclopedia Brown Meets Batman.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Nov 2017 19:28:25 No.96589490 Report

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>>96585431
>The Mechanic
>Christmas With The Joker
I seem to remember these being good episodes

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Nov 2017 19:29:13 No.96589502 Report

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>>96589161
Wow, you actually listed all the episodes

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Nov 2017 19:32:25 No.96589568 Report

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>>96586927
Honestly I think I liked TNBA more than BTAS overall, as heretical as it apparently is. I really liked the more unique angular style that the DCAU took on after BTAS, and I liked having the Batfamily present.
Overall, JLU was definitely the best DCAU series though. Question stole the show every time he was on screen, and the way they tied in the Justice Lords story was really well done.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Nov 2017 20:32:17 No.96590793 Report

Quoted By:

>>96583969
Critters

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Nov 2017 21:42:24 No.96592203 Report

Quoted By: >>96592278 >>96596635

>>96584347
>>96584584
>>96584675
>>96585052
>>96585096
>>96585193
>>96585363

Are you literal, actual idiots?
I would never post the chart in an unrelated thread like this. In fact I probably wouldn't even mention The Batman unless someone else did, because this thread is about TAS.

Furthermore, that chart is fucking ANCIENT! I have NEVER used that version since the real best cartoon ever made came to my attention.

This anon is an impostor who's making people think I'm an actual spammer. And I don't like it!

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Anonymous Tue 07 Nov 2017 21:46:13 No.96592278 Report

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>>96592203
>think I'm an actual spammer.
Yeah... Think...

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Nov 2017 21:49:48 No.96592324 Report

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>>96584246
Would you fuck off? As someone who enjoys The Batman I dislike the fact that you're painting fans of it as annoying autists.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Nov 2017 21:58:14 No.96592485 Report

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>>96585431
>Tyger Tyger in both.
What did he mean by this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Nov 2017 22:20:17 No.96592888 Report

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>>96585431

I agree for the most part with your list, but i have a soft spot for Tyger Tyger, if only for the tragic ending.

I'll concede that the overall quality of the episode isn't great

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Nov 2017 22:39:52 No.96593341 Report

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I fell asleep watching this cartoon, is this normal?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Nov 2017 22:42:12 No.96593385 Report

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>>96589161
>House & Garden

But that's a great Ivy episode with a wonderful twist. And horrifying monsters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Nov 2017 22:51:55 No.96593589 Report

Quoted By: >>96593636

>>96588253
It's not just the terrible animation. The writing is hardly different from what you'd expect from the Dick Sprang era. It's a silly, unsophisticated narrative that's exactly what I would have expected from the Tiny Toons pedigree, and I'd lob that criticism at hardly any other episode.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Nov 2017 22:54:08 No.96593636 Report

Quoted By: >>96593810

>>96593589
But that's fun.
Joker laughing and cracking jokes at how Summer's mom is going to die in a train crash while she's literally crying about it was also hilarious.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Nov 2017 22:55:36 No.96593667 Report

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The Catwoman one we’re she got turned into a Catwoman like man at but it came right after the man bat episode and you can tell the writers were just lazy

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Nov 2017 23:03:28 No.96593810 Report

Quoted By: >>96593968 >>96596973 >>96597068

>>96593636
>But that's fun.
What made BTAS special was it was the first superhero cartoon to take a nuanced approach to storytelling with mature writing and characterization. Christmas with the Joker could be a Super Friends episode.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Nov 2017 23:13:10 No.96593968 Report

Quoted By: >>96594433

>>96593810
Nah, the bit with Summer Gleeson and Joker's thugs shooting real guns at Batman was much too dark for Super Friends. Additionally, Joker doing a send-up of cheesy Christmas specials is a joke for adults that would go over most kids' heads.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Nov 2017 23:33:37 No.96594433 Report

Quoted By: >>96594610

>>96593968
Guns and Christmas special parodies makes the sophisticated?

Hold this up against Joker's Favor, or practically any other Joker episode, and this is the most infantile by far.

And then add that the animation is a rubbery mess.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Nov 2017 23:42:11 No.96594610 Report

Quoted By: >>96594753 >>96594817

>>96594433
Compared to "Be A Clown" or "The Last Laugh", where Joker was also more of an infantile prankster?

To be fair, all three episodes were written for Tim Curry's portrayal of Joker first, so they're going to feel way off compared to how he's been written for Mark Hamill since.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Nov 2017 23:42:12 No.96594611 Report

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Prophecy of Doom is really underrated. It's a clever detective vs conman episode, with Batman exploiting (and also being hamstrung by) his Bruce Wayne persona.

I feel like it gets lumped in with a number of episodes that get a bum rap for not having flashy, notorious supervillains.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Nov 2017 23:47:27 No.96594753 Report

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>>96594610
Yes, Be a Clown and Last Laugh, while not among the best Joker episodes, are better crafted.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Nov 2017 23:49:44 No.96594817 Report

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>>96594610
The Last Laugh is unironically one of my top 10 episodes. That theme, also Captain Clown.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Nov 2017 23:53:38 No.96594917 Report

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There is literally nothing wrong with tyger tyger

cat-man should've snagged that literal pussy

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Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 00:00:00 No.96595037 Report

Quoted By: >>96595105

Just about any one from season 3, especially Shadow of the Bat. God, the season 3 episodes were so boring.

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Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 00:03:48 No.96595105 Report

Quoted By: >>96595250

>>96587610
>>96587906
>>96595037
These. BTAS' third season was an utter mess.

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Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 00:07:14 No.96595172 Report

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>>96589161
>recommending Bane, Mudslide, and Shadow of the Bat
Do you want to bore people to tears?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 00:09:08 No.96595214 Report

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>>96587208
POV is a Rashomon episode that shows you exactly what happened with no actual possibility for open interpretation. It's a Rashomon episode that actually misses the fucking point of Rashomon, so you're stuck watching three cops tell you second hand how Batman saved the day rather than watching him actually save the day. It's conceptually retarded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 00:10:16 No.96595250 Report

Quoted By: >>96595705

>>96595105
His Silocon Soul and Deep Freeze are fantastic but the rest of these episodes I only remember as being good-to-okay:
Fire From Olympus
Time out of Joint
Showdown
Riddler's reform
Lock Up
Make 'Em Laugh how anyone can call the Condiment King episode bad is beyond me

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 00:17:48 No.96595398 Report

Quoted By: >>96595523

>>96585431
I never understood the hate Forgotten gets. What's so bad about P.O.V?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 00:23:53 No.96595523 Report

Quoted By: >>96595622 >>96595818 >>96597181

>>96595398
>I never understood the hate Forgotten gets.
How does Batman of all people get knocked out and stuck working as a slave-laborer, especially since memory-loss contrivance ends up being used to explain why he doesn't just bust out in five minutes?

Alfred's attempts to fly the Batwing was the sole highlight of the otherwise-lousy episode.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 00:29:09 No.96595622 Report

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>>96595523
To be fair, Batman got his ass kicked fairly often early on.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 00:33:51 No.96595705 Report

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>>96595250
Riddler's Reform is the best Riddler episode, and Fire From Olympus is a fun episode with an incredible police blimp crash.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 00:37:00 No.96595770 Report

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So, are the TAS comics canon? I always wanted to read them, but could never find a good torrent.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 00:38:55 No.96595818 Report

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>>96595523
It had that good guitar music too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 00:44:58 No.96595944 Report

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Remember that time Batman fucked Clayface over right before he was about to cure himself?

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Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 00:48:52 No.96596026 Report

Quoted By: >>96596452 >>96600143

>tfw this will never be an episode

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 00:57:18 No.96596230 Report

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>>96585431
>Cape and Cowl Conspiracy
The twist alone made that episode good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 01:06:00 No.96596452 Report

Quoted By: >>96596700

>>96596026
context

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Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 01:13:58 No.96596635 Report

Quoted By: >>96596842 >>96599684

>>96592203
I almost believed you until
>I would never post the chart in an unrelated thread like this
The real TheBatmanfag spammed this shit in every single thread that was even remotely Batman cartoon related. Even if it wasn't the actual chart posted you still knew it was him.

6/10 bait. Work on it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 01:16:21 No.96596700 Report

Quoted By: >>96599400

>>96596452
The frog puppet was used to rehabilitate him. Gotham bullshit happens and Scarface is reintroduced to him. Frog "dies" in a fire at the end and he goes back to his old ways.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 01:21:36 No.96596842 Report

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>>96596635
Oh fuck off. I'd do it in a thread like >>96593018 because the obnoxious OP says it's the BEST, but not one that just discusses another version.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 01:23:26 No.96596884 Report

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>>96586949
>Sean Catherine Derek
Oh, don't forget that she was responsible for this travesty, anon:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uROQ9nplxIY

Even though people mostly blame Kasanoff, I'd argue she was equally responsible for it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 01:27:36 No.96596973 Report

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>>96593810
>What made BTAS special was it was the first superhero cartoon to take a nuanced approach to storytelling with mature writing and characterization.
But not every episode has to be that.

Even in the Bronze Age, which is ALSO renowned for introducing "a nuanced approach to storytelling with mature writing and characterization" to Batman, they still allowed the writers to do straightforward, silly set-piece-driven Joker stories like "Joker wants to blow up Mount Gotham to look like his face" or whatever.

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Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 01:30:31 No.96597068 Report

Quoted By: >>96597535

>>96593810
>nuanced storytelling
>mature writing and characterization
Get that stick out of your ass and actually watch the show. TAS allowed itself to have fun and lighthearted episodes constantly.
The majority of the Joker episodes weren't episodes that could be considered "nuanced" or "mature" (whatever that means to you) and they are some of the most fondly remembered episodes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 01:32:42 No.96597138 Report

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Why was Ra's so fucked up? He literally became his daughter. Even Joker wasn't that bad, at least he did it someone unrelated.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 01:34:29 No.96597181 Report

Quoted By: >>96597201

>>96595523
>How does Batman of all people get knocked out and stuck working as a slave-laborer
Because he's fucking human.

I swear, this shit? This shit right here? This is EXACTLY why Batgod exists. You all bitch and moan about how "hurr, Batman is too OP", but the MOMENT he fucking takes a hit to the head or is rendered helpless temporarily, you call bullshit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 01:35:34 No.96597201 Report

Quoted By: >>96597479 >>96597538

>>96597181
Even Batman as a fucking human doesn't job THAT badly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 01:47:25 No.96597479 Report

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>>96597201
Well obviously he does, cuz that's what happens.

It was a narrative device, dude. Bruce Wayne had to get amnesia so that he could experience what it felt like to be somebody forgotten by society - hence the title of the episode. It's a "walk a mile in another man's shoes" story, about experiencing the helplessness of being homeless, that wouldn't work if Bruce knew he was actually a billionaire karate commando escape artist.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 01:49:36 No.96597535 Report

Quoted By: >>96597643 >>96598624 >>96599463

>>96597068
Christmas With the Joker isn't bad because it's "lighthearted," it's bad because it's the most uninspired and lame-brained of the lighthearted episodes.

For the rest of the series, B:TAS proved that it could be and was better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 01:49:45 No.96597538 Report

Quoted By: >>96598679

>>96597201
He jobbed to pre-Braniac Luthor. Not power suit Luthor either. And this was in the JL era where he's OP. Probably the only time he jobbed in JL/JLU, I'm surprised the Batfag writers allowed it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 01:54:06 No.96597643 Report

Quoted By: >>96597695 >>96597867

>>96597535
Really? More uninspired than "it's Home Alone, only the Wet Bandits are Penguin's gang"? More lame-brained than "let's make Catwoman a parolee trying to turn over a new leaf immediately after her introduction"?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 01:56:16 No.96597695 Report

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>>96597643
In execution, yes.

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Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 02:03:27 No.96597867 Report

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>>96597643
Man, I can forgive Catwoman going straight - she's gone straight in the comics from time to time.

I don't even mind her being a glorified animal rights' activist - maybe it's just a sign of the times, or the general lack of direction in her 90s book, but again, she did that shit in the comics often enough.

What was indefensibly fucking stupid? Having her be an "animal lover" who, in a world that in all the important ways skews more realistic than cartoony, carries her goddamn housecat around her neck while she jumps from building to building, and uses her to aid in her heists.

That's so fucking dumb on so many levels, I don't even have time to unpack it. Just look at this goofy shit.

Hell, the inciting event that makes her think "gee, Batman is an alright guy" is him saving her precious cat - which could be a nod to Year One, but in that story, the cat wasn't fucking in danger BECAUSE of Selina. Her whole goddamn second appearance is about her shaming her ONE friend for letting the cat get out! Don't act like you care about Iris' safety, hypocritical bitch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 02:12:54 No.96598062 Report

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>>96585634
The music was phenomenal in that episode. Walker killed on it. The plot is pretty crap but damn that score was good. That keeps it in the good category for me.

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Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 02:17:48 No.96598170 Report

Quoted By: >>96598399 >>96599436

>>96585431
>Not liking Lock-Up.

Sounds like you're part of the problem.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfjRc5n78DU

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 02:28:56 No.96598399 Report

Quoted By: >>96598473

>>96598170
Ah, batman caring for rehabilitation and the condition of his rogues. So nice. So, so nice.

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Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 02:32:32 No.96598473 Report

Quoted By: >>96599436 >>96599991

>>96598399
Monsters like the Joker don't deserve rehabilitation -- they deserve to be LOCKED UP!

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 02:34:19 No.96598531 Report

Quoted By: >>96598980 >>96599967

I'm seeing a lot of this in this thread.

These opinions are plebeian opinions.

The Cape & Cowl Conspiracy isn't a Riddler episode because it's an adaptation of a classic Bronze Age Batman story by Elliot S! Maggin. Even the adapted screenplay was written by Elliot S! Maggin himself. If you don't know who the fuck Elliot S! Maggin is, or why he can do whatever the fuck he wants to, including punctuating his name that way, then you don't know shit about comics.

The Cape & Cowl Conspiracy is a story that at first, seems to be about "Will Batman be able to defeat this guy who designs deathtraps for a living, and has never failed before?", but since even in the '70s the answer to that was obviously "Yes", Maggin made it a clever escalation of increasingly no-win situations that ended with Batman... admitting defeat and surrendering his cape and cowl, with the convenient caveat that since Wormwood had no personal investment in this job, he had no reason to take the opportunity to kill Batman or learn his identity. And then when you found out "Oh fuck, the guy who HIRED Wormwood was Batman all along, and this was just an elaborate ruse to expose him for some other crime!", you realized that the question of "Can Batman outsmart this guys' perfect death traps?" didn't matter after all. Wormwood COULD have built a death trap Batman couldn't escape from, but he couldn't suss out the trap Batman had laid for him. He was too over-specialized in that one particular stat.

This story wouldn't work with the Riddler, because, for one, he HAS been outsmarted by Batman before, so the question of "Can Batman beat him is?" is an obvious "Yeah." Also, Riddler has a HUGE personal stake in defeating Batman, so you lose that whole angle, and in the end when Batman was revealed to have been rusing the Riddler the whole time, it'd just make Nigma look like a complete chump.

+ "Batman can't prove Riddler did crime, so he uses some roundabout way to expose him" was already Riddler's Reform.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 02:38:17 No.96598605 Report

Quoted By: >>96599486 >>96599494

Is it wrong that His Silicon Soul made me desperately wish for a Cyborg Batman arc in the comics? I really, really wanted to see that happen in a full length comic arc, where the Cyborg slowly realized he wasn't human, ending up with a Roy Batty moment. Also The Last Laugh has the best Joker theme of the entire series, bar none. And the best goon. Poor Captain Clown

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 02:39:01 No.96598624 Report

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>>96597535
If you can't appreciate the dark humor of Batman refusing to see It's a Wonderful Life because he "couldn't get past the title" then it's just not your episode, but uninspired and lame-brained it isn't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 02:41:55 No.96598679 Report

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>>96597538
He got jumped by Copperhead TWICE and even Shade got his hits in. Parasite also had him in trouble.

The degree of Batgod in Justice League is overstated.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 02:53:02 No.96598916 Report

Quoted By: >>96599042 >>96599413 >>96603061

I've seen a lot on TAS threads that really praise Joker's Favor, or in the least really like it more than some. While I agree, it's a wonderful episode, what makes it stand out to you guys?

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Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 02:55:16 No.96598980 Report

Quoted By: >>96599502 >>96599967

>>96598531
These opinions all read like someone who has a hard time accepting that Batman used to fight ordinary criminals all the fucking time. There's only a handful of incarnations where he excusively battles supervillains, and they tend to skew campier (WestBats, The Batman, BaTB almost counts but then there's Chill of the Night and the Matches Malone episodes to throw the curve).

You can have Batman fight ANYBODY as long as you're telling a story about it, because that's what counts. The story, not whether Batman can beat the guy with one karate chop.

Wormwood doesn't care about anything except the perfection of his craft, which is how Batman tricks him into confessing to his part of another crime.

"Random slaver guy" was a riff on the villain of Cool Hand Luke and other southern poverty dramas about people in hard times being forgotten by the system and exploited.

"Invisible deadbeat dad" is to teach kid a Very Special Lesson that no, the man who breaks into your room at night isn't your "secret friend", even if he brings you presents like jewelry, and you should DEFINITELY tell your mom about that shit. It's a bit blunt as a metaphor really, but I can't FAULT them for trying to teach kids not to trust strangers, even if those strangers turn out to be their creepy estranged dad. Plus that episode has some great animation flourishes, like when he puts the necklace onover the girl's hair, the poor guard who gets slammed behind a door Batman suddenly opens, or this guy.

Dagget and Thorne were there to show that Batman's most frustrating enemies weren't the crazy ones, they were the ones rich and powerful enough to keep getting away with it. Just as The Forgotten is important for showing Batman looking after the lower classes, they were important for showing him going after white collar criminals, that nobody is above Batman's scrutiny, but sometimes kids, bad men will get away with doing bad things. That shit is REAL. Fuck you plebeians.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 02:57:41 No.96599042 Report

Quoted By: >>96599071 >>96599413

>>96598916
It's a favorite for the same reason The Man Who Killed Batman is - it shows us a story about these larger-than-life living legends, as told from the POV of some ordinary schmuck. It's a refreshing change of pace.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 02:58:45 No.96599071 Report

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>>96599042
Also, Harley Quinn's first appearance.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 03:08:55 No.96599279 Report

Quoted By: >>96599381 >>96599537 >>96599613 >>96600489

>>96583969
Anything with Ra'as Al Ghul, except the flashback/story telling episode. The comedy show/competition episode. Maybe that Killer Croc episode where he hangs out with a circus family. Oh, and most of Batgirl stuff. Reasons? In order:
>Oh, my love, my lovely love who I love!
>Hey hey hey! Who wants to see the joker actually be cringey at comedy and make three joke villains?
>We're tracking down Killer croc while he has farm interactions with no real background music, that's the entire episode
>I am a STRONG and INDEPENDENT super hero woman, but omg I want Batman to fuck me super hard

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 03:13:56 No.96599381 Report

Quoted By: >>96599592

>>96599279
>hating Condiment King
>hating Roseanne Barr giving Dick a spanking

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 03:15:14 No.96599400 Report

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>>96596700
They did a THE Batman episode about that, so might want to change that to >tfw this will never be a Btas episode

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Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 03:15:38 No.96599413 Report

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>>96598916
Like this guy said >>96599042, it's very refreshing when episodes focus on the characters from the perspective of ordinary people. Especially a shmuck like Charlie who gets stuck with some horrible torment for no reason.

I really don't care about Harley Quinn and I never did. But what truly elevates this episode for me is the ending when Charlie gets his payback on Joker and utterly BTFO's the clown forever and ever and barely lifting a finger
Probably one of my favorite scenes in all of DC media.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 03:16:50 No.96599436 Report

Quoted By:

>>96598170
>>96598473
I unironically want to see him and Rumor fight.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 03:17:41 No.96599453 Report

Quoted By: >>96599560

>>96585431
>POV
>bad
What the fuck, man.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 03:18:06 No.96599463 Report

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>>96597535
How in the fuck can you possibly think Christmas with the Joker is uninspired or lamebrained? Did you not watch the episode and are just talking out of your ass?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 03:19:21 No.96599486 Report

Quoted By: >>96599679

>>96598605
Relax, he survived. He's in that crappy Batman and Harley direct to dvd movie. Clowning around at hooters

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 03:19:45 No.96599494 Report

Quoted By: >>96599528

>>96598605
>That spoiler
F

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 03:20:32 No.96599502 Report

Quoted By: >>96600557

>>96598980
>The Batman
It's shown early on he DOES fight regular bad guys too, it's not emphasized for story reasons.

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Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 03:22:02 No.96599528 Report

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>>96599494

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Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 03:22:21 No.96599537 Report

Quoted By: >>96599616

>>96599279
>Actually liking the boring ass Jonah Hexx episode

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 03:23:21 No.96599560 Report

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>>96599453
Well it certainly would have been better if they kept all that footage of that guy chasing after Montoya with a drill. Timm said they removed it because some woman at WB freaked out about it, calling it the most blatant rape fantasy she had ever seen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 03:25:11 No.96599592 Report

Quoted By: >>96600367

>>96599381
He wasn't even the condiment king. He was Joker just trying to bs some shmucks into committing goofy crimes so he could win a cheap trophy.
>Implying I said that
Hey... Shut your mouth hole. I can appreciate Mighty Milf getting things past the censors as much as the next guy, but that doesn't excuse the episode.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 03:26:26 No.96599613 Report

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>>96599279
What was the deal with that? I keep hearing mostly from /co/ that Dini and crew hated Bane and that's why they made him a bitch, but what's their excuse for Ra's?
He was so forgettable that when I got to reading comics and saw comic Ra's for the first time, it didn't even click with me that I ever saw him before in the cartoon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 03:26:35 No.96599616 Report

Quoted By: >>96599855

>>96599537
I like the episode, but will admit it didn't feel like a Batman episode. Have it stand alone, and it is pretty god damn good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 03:29:27 No.96599666 Report

Quoted By:

I always felt Christmas with the Joker was excusable as a very early "finding their groove" episode that also perfectly introduces the Joker. Granted I remember it as episode 2 of the DVDs, not sure when it actually aired. Not an outstanding episode, still a good one.

Joker going through all that elaborate set up just to *howl with laughter* because he hit Batman in the face with a pie was such perfect characterization. He was going to murder three people casually but this was the true payoff.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 03:30:07 No.96599679 Report

Quoted By:

>>96599486
Along with that female HARDAC android.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 03:30:24 No.96599684 Report

Quoted By:

>>96596635
>on my planet it means siesta

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 03:33:48 No.96599748 Report

Quoted By: >>96599785 >>96599815

Wow, the TAS comic had Joker kill like 20 people in his first appearance. Meanwhile, his death toll was maybe less than ten in the show until the huge laser beam through Gotham in RotJ. Sometimes censors aren't the worst, at least when it comes to Joker. Writers love giving him stupidly high kill counts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 03:35:57 No.96599785 Report

Quoted By: >>96600079

>>96599748

Yeah it's truly outstanding how much more fun and even menacing the Joker is when he flirts at the idea of killing people but his true aim is "make Batman look like a sap" or "get rich copyrighting every fish catch in Gotham."

I'm also reminded of a perfect moment in Christmas with the Joker where Batman is about to enter his hideout and there's like a ten second sequence of Joker tip-toeing down a hall, barely able to contain his glee, giggling as he tests and sets a record player to playing, infinitely pleased with starting his "scene." So much better than kill-count Joker.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 03:37:48 No.96599815 Report

Quoted By: >>96599901

>>96599748
He was a mob hitman before becoming Joker, though. He probably had much more victims. Though, probably not in retarded triple digits like in the comics.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 03:40:08 No.96599855 Report

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>>96599616
It was a backdoor pilot for a Jonah Hex series that didn't go through. These 90s shows did this kind of thing all the time when they were about to wrap things up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 03:42:24 No.96599901 Report

Quoted By:

>>96599815
He probably killed more before he went insane in TAS. Though that's only due to Batman stopping him, I guess.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 03:46:16 No.96599963 Report

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>>96585431

I liked POV, the forgotten and Prophecy of Doom. Activist Catwoman was shit, tho.

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Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 03:46:31 No.96599967 Report

Quoted By: >>96600203 >>96600326

>>96598531
>>96598980
My only problem with Roland Dagget is that they didn't just make him Max Shreck from Batman Returns like he was supposed to be.
I get that they were trying to distance themselves from the Burton movies a little and that WB was already forcing them to do shit like change the designs of Penguin and Catwoman.
But Shreck was a really fun, really cool looking character who was a really great compliment to the setting, and if you are going to have a character whose sole purpose is to be the asshole businessman who stirs conflict, I'd prefer a colorful but sane man like Max Shreck instead of a boring as fuck cardboard like Dagget (they already had Thorne to be the "normal" villain anyway)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 03:48:00 No.96599991 Report

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>>96598473
In my headcanon, he's Mad Stan's grandad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 03:48:55 No.96600008 Report

Quoted By:

>>96587610

>hating See No Evil

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OblXvO_aH8s

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 03:50:27 No.96600038 Report

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>>96587610

The villain in "The Cape and Cowl Conspiracy" was a better Riddler than the actual Riddler in the show.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 03:51:32 No.96600068 Report

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>>96589161

The Worry Men is good too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 03:52:21 No.96600079 Report

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>>96599785
For me, Joker ends up being less scary if you know there's no surviving. Gotham citizens probably aren't even fazed when they see him these days. They just accept their death right there, maybe even try to get him pissed enough to hopefully kill them fast.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 03:54:12 No.96600113 Report

Quoted By:

>>96587610
The Forgotten had great action though, and music.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 03:55:50 No.96600143 Report

Quoted By:

>>96596026

Arnold looks like Henry in there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 03:58:46 No.96600203 Report

Quoted By:

>>96599967
Damn, they could have had Blight be his son or grandson.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 04:05:39 No.96600326 Report

Quoted By:

>>96599967
First of all, do you have a source for your claims?

Second of all, even if that were true, it's ALWAYS the case that cartoons based on movies change a characters' appearance/voice to avoid paying royalties to the live-action actor(s). So Max Shreck wouldn't have been able to look, or sound, anything at all like Christopher Walken... which defeats your whole argument, since without him that character is exactly as much of a cardboard cutout as Daggett.

I never argued that Roland Daggett was an EXCITING villain, but he didn't have to be. Not everything is about "entertainment value". Sometimes, you just have to school kids in the harsh realities. Also, he was voiced by Ed Asner. Ed Asner is awesome.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 04:08:18 No.96600367 Report

Quoted By: >>96602255

>>96599592
>He wasn't even the condiment king.
That's literally the episode that invented the Condiment King, what the fuck are you smoking.

I don't care if some jabroni like Chuck Dixon missed the point of that character entirely and interpreted him as a "for real" villain in some side-character's issue five years down the line, that doesn't fucking retroactively mean the episode that INVENTED THE CHARACTER "doesn't count"

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 04:15:00 No.96600489 Report

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>>96599279
>not liking the Ra's episodes
I dunno what the fuck to tell you man. Even as a kid when a lot of the "I'm fighting overpopulation" ecological shit went over my head, I could tell that Ra's al Ghul meant business and whenever he showed up, the episodes always had more weight to them, like it was the fate of the ENTIRE WORLD and not just whomever the Joker or Two-Face was fucking with this week, and the fact that he was paired with a legit love interest for Batman made the stakes feel that much more "special" than the average episode.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 04:18:56 No.96600557 Report

Quoted By: >>96600584 >>96600626 >>96603235

>>96599502
No man, he's shown defeating Rupert Thorne who represents the LAST of the traditional organized criminal element in Gotham. That's why it's the first thing the series does, that's why immediately after the intro, they cut to the commissioner talking about how Gotham now has "one of the lowest crime rates in the country".

Aside from the three men who hire Bane a couple episodes later, we never see any indication of organized crime until the Black Mask stuff later, and that's a whole nother kettle of fish.

I'm not saying it's a GOOD take, but they clearly wanted to get the mob out of the way first and foremost so that they could justify why Batman only ever fought Joker and Penguin and Mr. Freeze and Penguin and Joker and Mr. Freeze and Penguin and Joker and Mr. Freeze and Penguin and Joker and Mr. Freeze and Joker and Penguin and Mr. Freeze and Penguin and Joker...

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 04:20:55 No.96600584 Report

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>>96600557
Shit, even when the series adapts Wrath, whose ENTIRE FUCKING DEAL is that he sides with criminals because they're "the common folk", they have to force-fuck him into this weird supervillains-only underworld where he's defending the JOKER'S right to artistic expression or whatever the fuck, instead of protecting actual lower-class robbers and muggers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 04:23:37 No.96600626 Report

Quoted By:

>>96600557
And then in the tie-in comics, Thorne continues to be a threat by adapting to the supervillain lifestyle as a supplier and manufacturer of their gear.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 04:28:20 No.96600707 Report

Quoted By: >>96600733

>>96586927

Joker's Millions is another criminally underrated TNBA episode. It's a major departure in terms of tone, but it actually works as the comedy it was intended to be. There's so many good visual gags and memorable moments overall.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 04:30:16 No.96600733 Report

Quoted By: >>96600873

>>96600707
It was adapted from an older comic story, just like The Laughing Fish was.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 04:32:45 No.96600768 Report

Quoted By:

>>96585431
>hating Batman in My Basement

Cuck

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 04:35:00 No.96600802 Report

Quoted By:

>>96583969
Least fav episodes are Tyger Tyger, Critters, and that one episode that's all a giant flashback to the old west with Jonah Hex for some fucking reason

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 04:40:16 No.96600873 Report

Quoted By: >>96601336 >>96601824

>>96600733

Someone should really do a list of which episodes are adaptations and which ones are original stories, that way they can be graded differently.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 04:49:36 No.96600984 Report

Quoted By: >>96601312

Is there any Batman story where old time mobsters try to retake the underworld from the crazies? I also always wanted an alternate take where supervillains never enter the scene. Just regular mobsters desperately trying to keep up with Batman. Bonus points if it's from the mobster's perspective.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 05:13:33 No.96601312 Report

Quoted By:

>>96600984
Gotham Underground

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 05:15:29 No.96601336 Report

Quoted By: >>96601522

>>96600873
The one with the circus freaks was also adapted from the comics, only it didn't originally have Killer Croc.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 05:31:20 No.96601522 Report

Quoted By:

>>96601336
Detective Comics #410 "A View From The Grave"

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Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 05:34:18 No.96601559 Report

Quoted By: >>96601679 >>96602378

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Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 05:35:26 No.96601580 Report

Quoted By: >>96601822

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Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 05:36:41 No.96601599 Report

Quoted By: >>96601822 >>96602039 >>96602828 >>96603357

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Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 05:42:17 No.96601679 Report

Quoted By:

>>96601559
>Terry, did I ever tell you about the time I suplexed a giant alligator?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 05:52:08 No.96601822 Report

Quoted By:

>>96601580
>>96601599
I was hoping that was the SWAT team from Mask of the Phantasm. That whole sequence was gorgeous. It's a goddamn shame that Andrea Beaumont was voiced by Dana Delany, I'd have liked to see the character appear in more than a silent flashback.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 05:52:22 No.96601824 Report

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>>96600873
Here you go famalam

http://batmantheanimatedseries.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_DC_Comics_Adaptations

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 06:07:00 No.96602039 Report

Quoted By:

>>96601599
>that animation quality

Oh yeah baby, give me the good stuff

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 06:21:33 No.96602255 Report

Quoted By:

>>96600367
I meant in the sense "he was a tool for an end", not a villain of his own volition. To better clarify, it's like hiring an actor to play a villain in universe. Yeah, he LOOKS the part, but he is just there.

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Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 06:23:07 No.96602280 Report

Quoted By: >>96602514

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Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 06:28:54 No.96602378 Report

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>>96601559
>Don't worry mate, not gonna hurt ya.
Or
>Mother fucker suplexed an alligator!

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Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 06:38:55 No.96602514 Report

Quoted By: >>96602596

>>96602280
>tfw we will never get another cartoon with such a dark color palette in my lifetime.
It hurts lads.

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Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 06:45:08 No.96602596 Report

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>>96602514
I just want more art deco.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 07:00:10 No.96602828 Report

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>>96601599
Those armored vans were aesthetic as fuck.

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Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 07:10:58 No.96602965 Report

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Related topic: When do you guys feel the "Renaissance Era of Animation" (which Batman: TAS is part of, and began around the late 80s/early 90s) ended?

Candidate years.

>1999: The release of Tarzan (Disney's last smash hit Renaissance-era movie) and the failure of The Iron Giant.

>2000: The failure of Titan A.E. and the underperformance of The Emperor's New Groove.

>2001: The release of Shrek and Jimmy Neutron and the failure of Osmosis Jones and Atlantis: The Lost Empire. Shrek notably turned many Renaissance era tropes on their heads and set trends that works of the subsequent era followed.

>2002: The failure of Treasure Planet and the rebrandings of Saturday mornings: Fox Kids to Fox Box and One Saturday Morning to ABC Kids.

>2004: The box office failure of Home on the Range, the last traditionally animated Disney film until The Princess and the Frog in 2009, as well as the endings of shows like Samurai Jack, Hey Arnold!, and pre-movie SpongeBob.

>2006: The ending of Kids' WB! which dealt a blow to the already-dying Saturday morning cartoons, ABC Kids losing their cartoons and mostly being filled with Hannah Montana, and the ending of the last DCAU shows, Teen Titans and Justice League Unlimited.

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Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 07:20:20 No.96603061 Report

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>>96598916

The Joker making a guy's life miserable for years for no reason other than the latter cut him off in traffic because of a bad day is actually a lot more creepy than the Joker inexplicably having access to a super-clown robot or atomic bomb.

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Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 07:23:56 No.96603101 Report

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Was it autism?

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Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 07:34:42 No.96603235 Report

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>>96600557
>we never see any indication of organized crime until the Black Mask stuff later

He was more of a terrorist leader than a mobster. He was basically Hans Gruber.

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Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2017 07:46:04 No.96603357 Report

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>>96601599
Fuck me that animation is gorgeous.

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