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Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 12:57:17 2017 No.96017563 View Reply Original Report

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In real life he would have brutally raped her.

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Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 13:02:01 No.96017629 Report

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>>96017563
2 things
1. Wasn't pocahontas willing to fuck him in real life?
2. Why did white men love raping women, especially "subhumans"? It seems twisted, hypocritical, abd down right degenerate. They're basically committing bestiqlity by their own standards

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Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 13:04:00 No.96017657 Report

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>>96017629
Because white men are disgusting overgrown children

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Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 13:06:01 No.96017677 Report

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>>96017629
1. Unless we have a time machine, we probably won't ever know.
2. This isn't really exclusive to white men. It's easier in general to justify doing morally reprehensible things to other people when you can justify it as them not being 'real' people. It was easier for the Romans to kill the Gauls because they were inferior 'barbarians', it was easier for Muslims to slaughter thousands during the conquests because they were 'non-believers', it was easier for settlers to treat the native Americans like shit because they were 'savages', etc.

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Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 13:08:04 No.96017696 Report

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Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 13:08:48 No.96017701 Report

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>>96017563

Imagine the (((reviews))) this would get today...

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Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 13:10:29 No.96017723 Report

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Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 13:11:30 No.96017733 Report

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>>96017701
I mean, I always thought Pocahontas was a disgusting movie.

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Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 13:12:03 No.96017742 Report

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>>96017563
In real life, she was like... 12 when they met.
She was also the chief's daughter and acted as a go-between for her people and the settlers, so raping her would be tantamount to suicide.

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Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 13:13:06 No.96017758 Report

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>>96017563
In real life she and her tribe would have scalped him and eaten his flesh

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Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 13:14:18 No.96017772 Report

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>>96017629
They didn't think they were subhuman like animals, they just thought they were humans of reduced intelligence.

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Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 13:15:13 No.96017783 Report

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>>96017563
In real life he brutally raped her.

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Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 13:15:59 No.96017792 Report

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man her disney movie version would have deserved it
>have hot native american guy that wants to marry you
>reject him because he's not as funneh as you are
>get mad wet over aryan dick

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Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 13:16:41 No.96017797 Report

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>>96017563
Your comentary would have worked better if you have choosen something that wasn´t based in real life.

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Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 13:17:50 No.96017813 Report

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>>96017657
>>96017723
And privileged.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-_4LhiX8ha0

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Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 13:19:02 No.96017819 Report

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>>96017563
For the sake of preventing pointless shitposting, Disney should be forbidden to adapt anything plebs have even a passing knowledge of.
Seriously, the "well ackshully" Disney threads are always about Pocahontas (muh indians should be savages and she should be 12) or Hercules (muh Hades), because plebs don't read books, just wikis.

>>96017629
Because they were thinking with their dicks.

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Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 13:19:27 No.96017823 Report

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>>96017629
>Why did white men love raping women, especially "subhumans"? It seems twisted, hypocritical, abd down right degenerate. They're basically committing bestiqlity by their own standards

1- They didn't obviously think they weren't humans, but that was the politically correct view to hold at the time, since the savages weren't Christian
2- These men had spent like 3 months in a ship with nothing but other men, they would fuck anything with a pussy

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Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 13:25:11 No.96017864 Report

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>>96017823
>fuck anything with a pussy
They had horses on the ship... just sayin.

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Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 13:27:15 No.96017885 Report

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>>96017563
GUYS
DISNEY MOVIES ARE IDEALISTIC?
STOP THE FUCKING PRESSES
THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING

You probably thought this was a real fucking profound revelation, didn't you, you early 00's Newgrounds animator

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Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 13:37:42 No.96017988 Report

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>>96017563
except this is loosely based on real event, in which she wasn't brutally raped at all and was actually treated like royalty when she came to England
but I guess that doesn't fit the "whites are basically demons and the cause of all suffering in this world" dogma some people seem to have

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Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 13:45:35 No.96018067 Report

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>>96017988
Yeah, but the majority of Native Americans were treated like shit.

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Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 13:46:52 No.96018078 Report

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>>96017864
You think it hasn't been ever attempted?

but I guess that doesn't fit the "whites are basically demons and the cause of all suffering in this world" dogma some people seem to have

You're right, things like the genocide of Native Americans and the Trail of Tears does.

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Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 13:47:54 No.96018085 Report

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>>96017988
You think it hasn't been ever attempted?

>>96017988

>but I guess that doesn't fit the "whites are basically demons and the cause of all suffering in this world" dogma some people seem to have

You're right, things like the genocide of Native Americans and the Trail of Tears does.

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Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 13:48:27 No.96018091 Report

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>>96017701
Honestly it wasn't really a good film.

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Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 13:51:51 No.96018134 Report

Quoted By: >>96019056

Pocahontaas didn't even fucking marry Smith. She was like 12 when they met. She married John Rolfe, who pretty much raped her.

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Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 13:52:39 No.96018146 Report

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>>96017864
And just like that, the first horsefuckers to ever roam the planet were created that day.

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Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 14:58:10 No.96018950 Report

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>>96017701
You speak like Pocahontas was well received

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Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 15:03:56 No.96019056 Report

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>>96018134
That's what Disney Pocahontas did too. They made a DTV sequel about her journey to England and in a musical number, she randomly inspires Shakespeare to write a line in Hamlet

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Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 15:17:16 No.96019255 Report

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>>96018085
>genocide
Genocide implies a deliberate attempt to wipe out a race. Not knowing sneezing around natives and their non immune system wiping out 80% of their race is not deliberate and just a horrific mistake due to them not knowing germs were a thing. Taking lands = Genocide. Indians did it as well.

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Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 15:23:48 No.96019351 Report

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>>96019255
It's always funny when white people try to downplay their past because of their white guilt.
Next you're going to tell me blacks were actually better off in slavery and it was "da joos" who enslaved them anyway.

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Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 15:27:02 No.96019408 Report

Quoted By: >>96019441 >>96019938 >>96020746

>>96019255
>Genocide implies a deliberate attempt to wipe out a race
Which is exactly what the whites tried to do.

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Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 15:27:51 No.96019428 Report

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>>96019351
>It's always funny when white people try to downplay their past because of their white guilt.
You seem butthurt nigger

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Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 15:28:55 No.96019441 Report

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>>96019408
A pity it failed.

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Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 15:29:17 No.96019447 Report

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>>96017629
>1. Wasn't pocahontas willing to fuck him in real life?

Native women were DTF, look up what was going on in pre-contact Hawaii sometime

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Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 15:30:09 No.96019467 Report

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And so would her tribe, and then all the warriors of the tribe that annihilated hers later.

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Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 15:30:18 No.96019470 Report

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Why is bastardizing real events in this case is okay, yet if you made a movie where evil Jews torment innocent Hitler and holocaust is treated as something good and necessary you'd be treated like the most despicable human being ever?

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Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 15:30:34 No.96019474 Report

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I dunno about the rest of you, but I'd take her just around the riverbend and paint her with the colors of the wind, if you catch my drift.

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Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 15:31:44 No.96019502 Report

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>>96019428

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Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 15:32:33 No.96019515 Report

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>>96017563
Other way around, it was a "daddy can I keep him" sort of situation.

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Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 15:32:36 No.96019517 Report

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>>96017629
>2. Why did white men love raping women, especially "subhumans"? It seems twisted, hypocritical, abd down right degenerate. They're basically committing bestiqlity by their own standards

Any rhetoric that refers to other humans as 'subhuman' is actually just an excuse to do what you want to those people. Basically, you call people subhuman BECAUSE you want to rape them (or hurt them, or exploit them, or otherwise vent your innermost Id upon them).

Almost all racist rhetoric is like this. They don't believe in their heart of hearts that these people aren't human. They WANT to believe, and they want to be assured that everyone else will go along with that belief, so that they can justify having an underclass they can rape/kill/exploit at will.

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Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 15:34:22 No.96019549 Report

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>>96019428
How's that white genocide working out for you, cumskin?

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Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 15:34:34 No.96019550 Report

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>>96019502
He's actually not wrong tho.

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Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 15:35:33 No.96019568 Report

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>>96019550
no need to samefag after you got told, everyone can tell

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Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 15:37:10 No.96019608 Report

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>>96019568
>thinking I'm him
>thinking you "told" anyone

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Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 15:39:36 No.96019646 Report

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>>96017629
>1. Wasn't pocahontas willing to fuck him in real life?
I mean yes if you believe any of the shit John Smith wrote but given none of the shit he wrote makes any god damn sense the answer is probably no

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Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 15:41:16 No.96019677 Report

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>>96017563
Something more important.
How the fuck did they understand each other?
They spoke two very different and until then disconnected languages

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Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 15:41:20 No.96019680 Report

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>>96019351
>Next you're going to tell me blacks were actually better off in slavery and it was "da joos" who enslaved them anyway.
Wouldn't it have been considered payback for Egypt since black people love to rave about how they were pharaohs?

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Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 15:42:29 No.96019700 Report

Quoted By: >>96021937

>>96018067
By the Spanish.

The English and French treated them well, up until the Natives decided to start raiding and scalping everyone.

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Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 15:42:41 No.96019705 Report

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>another day on comblr

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Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 15:43:48 No.96019729 Report

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>Thread shitting on white people

Sign me up!

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Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 15:45:10 No.96019760 Report

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>>96019680
>since black people love to rave about how they were pharaohs?

>Having such low IQ that you actually believe /pol/ memes

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Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 15:45:51 No.96019775 Report

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>>96017563
Literally the best Disney movie of all time

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Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 15:48:48 No.96019843 Report

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>>96018146
>first
>not Mongolians
You know there are probably a couple breeds of horse with Genghis' blood in them.

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Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 15:49:30 No.96019853 Report

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>>96019470
It's never been considered "okay", people have always and will always have issue with Pocahontas. But the fact is it takes place 400 years ago as opposed to 70. Everyone involved in Pocahontas is dead, as are their children and grandchildren and great grandchildren meanwhile there are still Holocaust survivors still alive.

And hell even on top of that there are like half as many natives as there are Jews in the world and very few people actually care about Natives including the government whereas most people at least pretend to care about Jews.

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Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 15:53:26 No.96019938 Report

Quoted By: >>96020012 >>96020314

>>96019408
The majority of natives died before ever coming into contact with whites due to the spread of European diseases that the Natives had no immunity towards.

That isn't to say that the Spanish weren't downright evil towards the natives that lived long enough to be enslaved, but if you honestly think most of the natives died to expeditionary forces you're massively underestimating the amount of people living on the American Continents pre-contact.

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Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 15:54:06 No.96019952 Report

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>>96018091
>>96018950
This. Hell, my dad worked on this film (at nintendo clearly) and even he thought it was dross.

But then again, if you meet any Disney Renaissance animators, they all think that period was total shit and you're a pleb for liking it.

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Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 15:57:18 No.96020012 Report

Quoted By: >>96020072 >>96020080

>>96019938
>The majority of natives died before ever coming into contact with whites due to the spread of European diseases that the Natives had no immunity towards.

Nigga it doesn't matter. When whites DID come into contact with them they tried to wipe them out. Forced sterilization and genital mutilation upon Native Americans in the US continued up until the late eighties, it was just done discreetly enough that nobody made a fuss until very late in the process.

What was done to them was attempted genocide. It doesn't matter if diseases did half the work.

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Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 16:00:54 No.96020072 Report

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>>96020012
>Half the work
Jesus open a fucking history book.

Also, there wasn't a government directive to sterilize young native women. It was uncaring white doctors attempting, in their own bigoted way, to reduce poverty among the reservation population.

But I guess sensationalizing injustice is more important than providing proper context and actually learning from it.

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Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 16:01:13 No.96020080 Report

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>>96020012
More like 95% of the work

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Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 16:04:11 No.96020139 Report

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>>96020080
Yeah, idiots have no proper sense of scale. The idea of an apocalyptic super pandemic will never take root in their heads unless it happens in the modern day. Especially when blaming the white man sounds better to them, despite the fact that there is no way a couple of hundred dudes with rifles could depopulate two continents worth of people.

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Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 16:05:39 No.96020167 Report

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>>96017563
In real life she was like 12 years old when he married her.

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Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 16:09:22 No.96020246 Report

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>>96020139
So the Aryan master race didn’t conquer the wild untamed lands and subdue the savages?

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Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 16:10:15 No.96020261 Report

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>>96020139
I mean they absolutely didn't single handedly depopulate two continents and can hardly be blamed for the plague since no one had any idea about virology and how an isolated population may not have immunity to diseases other populations had become immune to. And not all whites were shitty to natives, the French were pretty decent and a lot were just neutral

Doesn't change the fact that Spanish, British, and Portugese colonists did a decent job mopping up what population was left after the super plague. Like yeah history is complicated and exists on a massive fucking scale but that doesn't mean you can't call a shitty thing shitty

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Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 16:12:28 No.96020314 Report

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>>96019255
>>96019938
>>96020139
I have a question, anon-senpai. Why the fuck did the North-American Indians had such a shitty immune system? They way people talk about them makes it seem like an European sneezed and the Indians started falling dead. Here in South America not only did the Indians didn't die of the European's diseases but they actually interbreed with them so much that most of the modern population is at least some part Indian.

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Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 16:13:09 No.96020332 Report

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>>96020246
No, the lands were already tamed by the natives and empty due to the plague. Accounts of the first English settlers have them grave robbing abandoned(dead) villages.

>>96020261
A shitty thing is shitty, but the nuanced version you just recited isn't the what is being force fed to young children, now is it?

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Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 16:13:32 No.96020344 Report

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>>96020314
You need to take a basic biology class, my dude.

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Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 16:14:46 No.96020371 Report

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>>96020314
North American Natives had no domesticated animals to catch diseases. No diseases means no immune system. When they got in contact with Europeans all the shitty diseases that they had built up immunity to jumped over to the natives and tore the population apart.

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Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 16:15:56 No.96020401 Report

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>>96020332
Wouldn't know man, not from America. I have no doubt the narrative is fucked up there and no one actually understands the full story

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Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 16:16:53 No.96020423 Report

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>>96017629
Since no one's actually answering with the actual answer I thought I might as well will. They didn't really see the natives as "subhuman" in the sense that you're thinking. To them subhuman meant just a step below human, as in, if they were to civilize the natives to where the point Europe were at the time then they'd be considered fully human. Some settlers though the way to do this would be to mate with them so that the European gene would be spread among the natives. This is what they called "the white man's burden". They felt responsible for the natives they were trading with and felt that it was their duty civilize them and make them fully "Human". To some, this meant they'd literally rape the human into them. So to them, it was seen as the kind thing to do.

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Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 16:17:25 No.96020438 Report

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>>96020401
It lacks nuance and consistency.

The settlers are the bad guys early on, but all of a sudden the natives are the bad guys during manifest destiny for defending their land.

American history as taught by public education is a fucking joke.

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Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 16:20:55 No.96020527 Report

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>People ITT really think that a couple hundreds of malnourished scurvy white boys went hyper holocaust on a entire continent of millions thanks to "muh gunpowder" and not the work of a microscopic murderfucker that could be spread by just having a pleasant small talk with your neighbor and a series of agreements the europeans had with some group of natives taking advantage of their own conflicts
I mean, I know you guys came from tumblr but that's not what you really believe, is it?

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Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 16:21:10 No.96020537 Report

Quoted By: >>96021718 >>96022123

>>96017629
>Why did white men love raping women, especially "subhumans"?
Pro tip: most societies loved raping, especially other cultures. It's about asserting dominance in a fucked up way

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Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 16:27:04 No.96020673 Report

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>>96020527
>latter half of the thread is all about how that isn't the case and discussing how shitty generalized history is
Yeah fuck off

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Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 16:28:32 No.96020706 Report

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>>96020314
Same thing happened with Europe long before. Most historians believe the Black Death came to Europe with the trading caravans from the Silk Road. Europe had direct and indirect(brought by those that had diract contact) contact with Asia and Africa while America was isolated

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Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 16:29:55 No.96020746 Report

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>>96019351
>>96019408
Tell me what they gain from killing the people they were trading goods with.

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Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 16:31:47 No.96020799 Report

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>>96020072
>>96020080
>hurr it was more dan half!

It. Doesn't. Matter. The facts are that the settlers were very much inclined to take advantage of this and try to finish the job. You want a nuanced view of history? The nuanced view is still that genocide was attempted. There is no way out of that reality.

>Also, there wasn't a government directive to sterilize young native women.

No, there wasn't, but there was a distinct medical culture of it brought about by how the government treated and portrayed the Native American population. There mere fact that doctors thought it was fine to do this speaks of how dehumanized they were. The government didn't tell doctors to do it, but they didn't attempt to restrict the practice either, and very much created the environment that lead to it.

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Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 16:33:00 No.96020828 Report

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>>96020673
I wanted to write "There are people ITT", my bad

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Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 16:33:19 No.96020837 Report

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>>96020746
Land. Resources. Slaves.

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Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 16:33:47 No.96020850 Report

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/co/ libtards always sound like they're in middle school

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Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 16:33:54 No.96020851 Report

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>>96020746
Once they could survive in the wild without Native help killing them would have easily opened up new land to build and access to resources they were sitting on. It also ended and existing or potential conflicts. It could also improve your standing with other tribes who didn't like the one you wiped out/sent away

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Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 16:34:53 No.96020876 Report

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>>96020850
/pol/tards on the other hand sound like they're still in preschool.

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Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 16:36:58 No.96020925 Report

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>>96020850
Why does basic history need to have a political standing? The Europeans destroyed the natives. It’s a basic objective fact. I’m sorry you stupid hicks think Education is “liberal brainwashing”

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Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 16:37:53 No.96020947 Report

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>all these niggas pretending Manifest Destiny didn't happen because there were diseases first

Sweet Jesus, /pol/ really has done a number on this board.

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Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 16:38:25 No.96020956 Report

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>>96020167
She married a different dude, anon

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Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 16:38:27 No.96020957 Report

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>>96020799
So conquest = genocide now? Not saying conquest isn't a shitty thing

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Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 16:38:41 No.96020969 Report

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>>96020925
Intent matters.

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Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 16:39:44 No.96020992 Report

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>>96020947
They want to hold onto the fairy tale of their great great great grant grandpappy crossing the sea, discovering the natives, and marrying a cute Native princess.

When in reality he sacked their villages like a warlord and raped underages girls.

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Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 16:45:52 No.96021138 Report

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>>96020746
It's simple really, you get to take their goods and trade it with your fella white men instead.

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Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 16:46:35 No.96021152 Report

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>>96020957
Sand Creek Massacre, the Mendocino War, the The Trail of Tears and the general policy toward natives in that era have been considered genocidal for a long fucking time now. We have loads of correspondences between leaders indicating that no prisoners were generally to be taken and the aim of these endeavors was to wipe out the indigenous population wherever it was to be found.

FFS can you really call the intentional distribution of smallpox-infected blankets anything but genocidal in intent?

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Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 16:46:37 No.96021153 Report

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>>96020992
>They want to hold onto the fairy tale of their great great great grant grandpappy crossing the sea, discovering the natives, and marrying a cute Native princess.
That's their fairy tale
>When in reality he sacked their villages like a warlord and raped underages girls.
That's your fairy tale
>>96020527
Is reality. These people were in a foreign land with barely any means for survival. They weren't barbarians that would shoot themselves in the foot by intentionally pissing off the only experts of the land.

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Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 16:48:34 No.96021208 Report

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>>96017563
But they were both real and probably met or were in the same vicinity at one time and he already didn't rape her sooo... No.

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Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 16:49:17 No.96021222 Report

Quoted By: >>96021329 >>96021335

>>96021152
>Thread is about Pocahontas
>Citing incidents, genocides and massacres that happened 200 years later
at least cite incidents that happened in the 1600s you boob

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 16:50:58 No.96021264 Report

Quoted By: >>96022312

>>96021153
>That's your fairy tale

So the Europeans dindu nuffin? Zero rape and violence?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 16:51:12 No.96021271 Report

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>>96020947
No, Manifest Destiny was a thing, i'm trying to point out that tumblr always credits the disease bodycount to it and never considers the collaboration natives had with europeans to wipe other different natives

>>96020992
To their credit it's more historically accurate since Manifest Destiny happened much later after the settlers

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 16:51:55 No.96021288 Report

Quoted By: >>96021371

>>96021153
Shit man I guess none of the well-documented stuff in >>96021152
ever happened, then? It was just a bunch of dudes who landed and then diseases happened and then they were totally cool with the natives after that, but, like, the natives just sort vanished. There was no Trail of Tears, there was no Manifest Destiny. Shit, one of the primary reasons for the Revolutionary War was not that colonists wanted to take more native land and the government wouldn't let them, that totally didn't happen either.

It was ALLLLLLL diseases.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 16:53:24 No.96021323 Report

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>>96020314
north american indians all descended from like 100 people, meaning they're inbred, weak and with horrible immunological systems
this is why the european colonists had to use blacks as slaves instead, even though that required hauling them all the way from africa

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 16:53:41 No.96021329 Report

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>>96021222
The discussion has moved well on from that by now dude. At the moment one side is claiming that no attempt was ever made by colonists at genocide. Which is wrong.

Sure, it didn't happen immediately, but it sure fucking happened.

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Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 16:53:49 No.96021335 Report

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>>96021222
This. What the hell is this thread on about? Keep your time periods consistent.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 16:54:35 No.96021352 Report

Quoted By:

>>96020837
Dead slaves are the best.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 16:55:27 No.96021371 Report

Quoted By: >>96021408 >>96021799 >>96021963

>>96021288
>colonists wanted to take more native land and the government wouldn't let them, that totally didn't happen either.

>The Brits freed their slaves before we did and without a civil war
>They took in American slaves during the Revolutionary war and freed them too

>The Brits were right all along

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 16:55:44 No.96021380 Report

Quoted By: >>96021503 >>96021667

>>96019351
>Next you're going to tell me blacks were actually better off in slavery and it was "da joos" who enslaved them anyway.
No, I'm going to tell you blacks were better off enslaved because they actually contributed to society in some small way. Unlike today.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 16:57:02 No.96021408 Report

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>>96021371
>The Brits were right all along
Was there ever any doubt?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 17:00:46 No.96021503 Report

Quoted By: >>96022844

>>96021380
So edgy

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 17:05:43 No.96021621 Report

Quoted By: >>96021879

>>96021152
Well, sorry but I have a superficial knowledge of North American history(and South America was mentioned, so a decide to join in). I personally never heard of a "take no prisoners" scenario here in SA that didn't had the collaboration of indians(in fact, the most know massacre in my country was caused by danes with the help of indians against catholics)

Do you have any source backing this intentional giveway of smallpox blankets?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 17:06:46 No.96021647 Report

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>>96019351

>it was "da joos" who enslaved them anyway.

It wasn't the Jews that enslaved them. They were just the ones that bought them from the African tribes that enslaved them, transported them across the Atlantic and sold them to white settlers. People need to stop treating slavery like it was white guys going into Africa throwing nets on tribals and hauling them away in ships. There are a lot of people with dirt on their hands that never own up to it and the systems existed well before white people started exploiting them and continued well after white people decided it was immoral.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 17:07:20 No.96021667 Report

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>>96021380
>Says this when Obama actually helped millions with his healthcare plan while all Blumpf has done is give tax cuts to his very rich (((friends)))

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 17:08:53 No.96021718 Report

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>>96020537
>In a fucked up way
oh you!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 17:11:38 No.96021799 Report

Quoted By: >>96021927 >>96021938 >>96021948

>>96021371
The British were pretty fucking hardcore when they decided slavery was wrong. I don't recall the exact number of slaver ships they sunk, but it's shockingly high. There was even a case where a French fort was being used to ferry slaves, and the French insisted it didn't exist. So they British navy blew it to smithereens, then sent on a smug correspondence confirming that it did, indeed, not exist.

That said, I doubt it was hard for the Brits to justify shooting at Frenchmen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 17:13:47 No.96021853 Report

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>>96017629
Most men look down on women and consider them inferior one way or another, yet still want to fuck them. The justification is the same.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 17:14:35 No.96021879 Report

Quoted By: >>96022208

>>96021621
>Do you have any source backing this intentional giveway of smallpox blankets?

There are a lot of letter regarding this, but the most famous quote is as such: "You will do well to try to innoculate the Indians by means of blanketts, as well as to try every other method that can serve to ecxtirpate this Execreble Race."

Translated from ye olde, that means "give them smallpox blankets nigga, it'll kill 'em good."

The same guy actually writes about how he never ever wants to see prisoners or survivors.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 17:15:27 No.96021899 Report

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>>96017677
Given that she went back to England, learned English, and wrote her life story, we kinda do know.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 17:16:29 No.96021927 Report

Quoted By: >>96023047

>>96021799
Wait, the french said that the traffic of slaves didn't exist on that fort or did they say that the fort didn't exist?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 17:16:50 No.96021937 Report

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>>96019700
The English were kinda dicks to them too. The French weren't too bad, in comparison.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 17:16:52 No.96021938 Report

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>>96021799
That's fucking hilarious

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 17:17:16 No.96021948 Report

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>>96021799
Based Britbongs. I’m gonna read about that sometime. Sounds comfy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 17:17:57 No.96021963 Report

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>>96021371

America banned the Atlantic Slave trade the same year the British did. Actually within a couple of months of the British and had been working to do so for years. Both nations continued to use slaves well after banning the trade though Britain formally abolished it first. It should also be mentioned that while there was a significant moral argument in Britain to do so (say what you want about Quakers but they were definitely on the right side of history) a large reason they did it was to give France a massive middle finger.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 17:18:10 No.96021968 Report

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>>96020314
Because Europeans had been fucked by Smallpox before, and were used to it.

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Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 17:19:03 No.96021985 Report

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>>96017758

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Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 17:23:57 No.96022123 Report

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>>96017677
>>96019517
>>96020537
All of this. Slave owners often took a black mistress too (an interesting example of women getting BLACKED instead of men).

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 17:27:15 No.96022204 Report

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>>96017563
sho triggered incel sho

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 17:27:19 No.96022208 Report

Quoted By: >>96022388

>>96021879
Thanks m8. I do recall a grade school teacher mentioning intentional giveway of infected blakets a long time ago and never again, he was speaking about general american colonization tho

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 17:28:15 No.96022237 Report

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Wow as an occasional /co/ browser I always questioned the tumblrina infiltration meme since every visit I would see a not so subtle "muh diversity" /pol/ thread, but it seems like some things do in fact trigger them to come out of the woodwork. Why couldn't it have at least been /leftypol/ instead?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 17:28:50 No.96022252 Report

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>>96017742
in real life he took her captive, fucked her and then took her with him to england to be his house slave

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 17:29:21 No.96022261 Report

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>>96017629
rights of conquest

t. Spaniard

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 17:31:21 No.96022312 Report

Quoted By: >>96022459

>>96021264
They did the same thing they had been doing in Europe for thousand of years. And the same thing natives had been doing to each other for thousands of years.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 17:34:04 No.96022383 Report

Quoted By: >>96022485 >>96022532

>>96019351
Slavery is a human thing, not a white thing. All cultures around the world have had slaves at some point in their history.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 17:34:28 No.96022388 Report

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>>96022208
I mean the very basis of Manifest Destiny is "we deserve all the lands and should take it by force from the dirty Natives". Thus the Buffalo/Indian Wars.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 17:37:13 No.96022459 Report

Quoted By: >>96022577

>>96022312
I don’t see how that makes it right.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 17:38:17 No.96022485 Report

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>>96022383
But it’s whites who swear up and down they deny ever participating in it and pawn it off on “da joos”

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 17:39:49 No.96022532 Report

Quoted By: >>96022619

>>96022383
But it’s whites who swear up and down they never participated in it and pawn it off on “da joos”

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 17:41:15 No.96022577 Report

Quoted By:

>>96022459
It doesn't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 17:42:29 No.96022619 Report

Quoted By: >>96022701

>>96022532
I know, and it's ridiculous.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 17:44:55 No.96022701 Report

Quoted By:

>>96022619
Although I would argue other races do the same. As if natives or africans never had slaves. That's also ridiculous.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 17:45:58 No.96022730 Report

Quoted By:

>>96017723
have there been edits of this

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 17:50:03 No.96022844 Report

Quoted By: >>96023294

>>96021503
Enjoying that welfare check, Jamal?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 17:57:47 No.96023047 Report

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>>96021927
They said the fort didn't exist.

They probably didn't expect to get a letter back going "Huh, yeah, seems you were right."

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2017 18:06:37 No.96023294 Report

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>>96022844
All paid for by your taxes.

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