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Anonymous Wed 06 Sep 13:30:36 2017 No.95144376 View Reply Original Report

>villains are only intimidating in their first appearance

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Anonymous Wed 06 Sep 2017 13:31:38 No.95144395 Report

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>>95144376
What confused me was that Buttercup had a crush on the leader in their debut episode, so I thought they never met them before that.

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Anonymous Wed 06 Sep 2017 13:33:01 No.95144422 Report

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>>95144395
retcons, oh fug

did the show ever mention mojo being the girls friends once? nope

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Anonymous Wed 06 Sep 2017 13:34:33 No.95144447 Report

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>>95144395
>>95144422

Powerpuff Girls had the same amount of continuity as any other Hanna Barbera cartoon. As in, none.

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Anonymous Wed 06 Sep 2017 13:35:14 No.95144462 Report

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>>95144376
>BRAZZERS

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Anonymous Wed 06 Sep 2017 13:36:01 No.95144475 Report

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>>95144376
>Villain has one story and then fades into obscurity

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Anonymous Wed 06 Sep 2017 13:41:31 No.95144551 Report

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Mojo's introduction to the girls in the movies was fucking amazing. My favorite scene in the movie.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Sep 2017 13:45:32 No.95144595 Report

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>>95144395
Terror boner, but for girls. It's why so many of them have a choking or rape play fetish.

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Anonymous Wed 06 Sep 2017 13:45:54 No.95144601 Report

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>>95144475
>villain has one story they're remembered for and any attempts to write further arcs with them eventually all end up taking inspiration from that one story

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Anonymous Wed 06 Sep 2017 13:48:35 No.95144639 Report

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>>95144601

Like most of Batman's rogues?

>Two-Face
Only good story is his origin, then after that he's just another gangster with a dumb gimmick
>Bane
Only good for Knightfall then after that he's just a big guy that loses all the time, usually in the same way ("Oh no, muh Venom!")
>Hugo Strange
The one where he finds out Batman's secret identity and then never anything else, ever.
>Scarecrow
WHAT good stories?

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Anonymous Wed 06 Sep 2017 13:49:39 No.95144659 Report

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>>95144395
She has awful taste.

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Anonymous Wed 06 Sep 2017 13:53:38 No.95144724 Report

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>>95144639
>He hasn't read theone where Scarecrow gets affected by his own fear gas and gets spooked by scary batmens

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Anonymous Wed 06 Sep 2017 13:58:36 No.95144806 Report

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>>95144376
It was from Professor's point of view. They are literally nothing compared to the girls.

Also, Craig said that he felt that he was overconpensating on the darkness of the movie, and promised to never do something as dark as that and focus on humor.

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Anonymous Wed 06 Sep 2017 14:00:21 No.95144836 Report

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>>95144806
>It was from Professor's point of view.

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Anonymous Wed 06 Sep 2017 14:11:03 No.95145023 Report

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>>95144806
Thats too bad. I felt that Craigs darker writing in many episodes and the movie was really intriuging. Kind of like Alan Moore on some ways

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Sep 2017 14:12:52 No.95145051 Report

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>>95144806
>Also, Craig said that he felt that he was overconpensating on the darkness of the movie, and promised to never do something as dark as that and focus on humor.
And now we have NuPPG
Go suck a dick, McCucken

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Sep 2017 14:13:37 No.95145068 Report

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>>95145051
McCracken has literally nothing to do with nuPPG

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Anonymous Wed 06 Sep 2017 14:19:28 No.95145187 Report

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>>95145051
Fuck Craig that crackhead looking motherfucker

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Sep 2017 14:51:09 No.95145814 Report

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>>95144447
Jojo having been the Professor's pet/lad assistant did fit continuity.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Sep 2017 14:52:14 No.95145834 Report

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>>95144806
Really? I thought the movie's tone was fantastic. It was darker than usual, but it wasn't edgy for the sake of being edgy or anything like it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Sep 2017 14:52:44 No.95145847 Report

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>>95144601
>>95144639
Did they do more with Mr. Freeze?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Sep 2017 15:01:55 No.95145993 Report

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>>95145068
He allowed it to happen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Sep 2017 15:07:03 No.95146066 Report

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>>95144806
But the movie was great, and the tone was one of its best qualities. It was a better MOS than MOS.

Also, I loved Mojo's speech near the end when he became super strong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Sep 2017 15:07:49 No.95146081 Report

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>>95145847
Batman Snow is really good if you want more Freeze I suggest it, It basically another origin story but it has some fun unique moments.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Sep 2017 15:09:25 No.95146100 Report

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>>95145847
YesNew 52 made him just another delusional insane fucker but it was so shit it stopped being canon pretty quickly

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Anonymous Wed 06 Sep 2017 15:09:38 No.95146107 Report

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>>95144376
actually both versions of bane (BTAS) but this one got hit worse.

from needing a mech to fight him to eventually casually judo flipping him in the superman episode.

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Anonymous Wed 06 Sep 2017 15:11:55 No.95146138 Report

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>>95145993
He doesn't own the PPG trademark.
CN does.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Sep 2017 15:12:25 No.95146146 Report

Quoted By: >>95146203

>>95144601
I love Last Hunt, but I hate how everyone gravitates to it like there are no other Kraven stories. He's always been a fun villain to have.

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Anonymous Wed 06 Sep 2017 15:13:48 No.95146168 Report

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>>95144601
bane?

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Anonymous Wed 06 Sep 2017 15:15:55 No.95146203 Report

Quoted By: >>95146286 >>95146306

>>95146146
he only got 1 good story though

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Sep 2017 15:17:53 No.95146228 Report

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>>95144376
WAIT A SECOND.
Isn't this image from the PPG movie? Which was their origin story?
Which in some timeline way IS their first appearance?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Sep 2017 15:22:29 No.95146286 Report

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>>95146203
He only got 1 serious story*
Well, there's also Grim Hunt that was hyped as fuck back in 2010, but nobody seems to care about it anymore.
Point is, before Last Hunt, Kraven was just a fun campy villain, about Boomerang tier.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Sep 2017 15:24:05 No.95146306 Report

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>>95146203
Spider-Man Blue
ASM #15
ASM #34
ASM #47
Marvel Adventures Spider-Man #7

Now go read a comic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Sep 2017 15:25:04 No.95146319 Report

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>>95144376
Fucking bisho Valmont

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Sep 2017 15:34:08 No.95146438 Report

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>>95146107
I thought BTAS Bane was kind of shit and the only time he was really intimidating is in Barbara's Scarecrow gas-induced nightmare.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Sep 2017 15:55:44 No.95146726 Report

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>>95146438
never really got why they gave him more of a luchador mask for BTAS and the gimp look in the later versions.

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Anonymous Wed 06 Sep 2017 17:47:55 No.95148779 Report

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Anonymous Wed 06 Sep 2017 18:02:53 No.95149098 Report

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>>95146168
Get him on board, I'll call it in

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Anonymous Wed 06 Sep 2017 19:06:24 No.95150407 Report

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>>95144376
it happens

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Anonymous Wed 06 Sep 2017 19:09:59 No.95150506 Report

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>>95144395
All the 5-year-olds love Ace.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Sep 2017 19:14:33 No.95150592 Report

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>>95144376
Kilgrave
Though technically it wasn't an appearance. Everything else after the first episode was just pathetic and not even in a good way

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Sep 2017 19:26:49 No.95150830 Report

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>>95144376
TMNT2012 had that all the time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Sep 2017 19:30:36 No.95150918 Report

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>>95144475
>>95144601
>villain has no stories

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Sep 2017 19:38:06 No.95151074 Report

Quoted By: >>95155672

>>95148779
Dude went from basically being the source for a majority of the large scale criminal operations and trafficking in the world, to a bus driver.

Talk about wasted potential.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Sep 2017 20:10:39 No.95151700 Report

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>>95150506
[Ace: constant internal screaming]

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Anonymous Wed 06 Sep 2017 20:17:09 No.95151850 Report

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Anonymous Wed 06 Sep 2017 20:41:44 No.95152346 Report

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>>95144376
pretty much every villain in TMNT 2012 except Shredder and Tiger Claw

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Anonymous Wed 06 Sep 2017 20:58:15 No.95152747 Report

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>>95145023
>>95146066
The movie was great, but it was a financial failure, and Craig kind of has this internalized on him that the tone was part of the reason, and he felt that he was trying too hard to be taken seriously and appear mature.

This is why he wants to do things more like Wander.

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Anonymous Wed 06 Sep 2017 21:21:26 No.95153225 Report

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>>95152747
Never forget.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Sep 2017 21:25:31 No.95153305 Report

Quoted By: >>95153452 >>95165781

>>95146107
That was every villain in The Batman. Remember Croc's swamp fu?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Sep 2017 21:28:58 No.95153367 Report

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>>95146107
That looks like a Serious Sam enemy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Sep 2017 21:31:50 No.95153437 Report

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>>95144395
Considering how little screentime the gangreen gang got in the movie, I'd imagine its a simple case of them not remembering.

>>95144447
PPG actually had a decent amount of continuity compared to other CN shows of the time. It certaibly wasn't Dexter's Lab or Johnny Bravo levels of negative continuity.

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Anonymous Wed 06 Sep 2017 21:32:36 No.95153452 Report

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>>95153305
>That was every villain in The Batman.
oops

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Sep 2017 21:36:10 No.95153525 Report

Quoted By: >>95153557

>>95153452
Nah, he became a goofy fucker after S1, unless I'm misremembering things. Going over the top with his obsession over 'muh psychology' really made him less threatening.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Sep 2017 21:37:19 No.95153549 Report

Quoted By: >>95168463

>>95152747
And ironically, Wander best parts were after Dominator was introduced as a semi-serious villain

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Sep 2017 21:37:49 No.95153557 Report

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>>95153525
You're definitely misremembering a lot of things, considering he first appeared in season 2, and only became a villain in season 3.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Sep 2017 21:39:49 No.95153604 Report

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>>95152747
I'd say the reason it didn't do well was pacing. Too many scenes that go by too quickly, that some of the plot elements felt underdeveloped, or were only there for convenience. Professor getting arrested just so the PPGs have to walk home in the rain, only for him to be set free once the PPGs arrive home always felt off to me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Sep 2017 21:49:34 No.95153793 Report

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>>95153604
It had nothing to do with the writting, it was on the time that 2d movies were being forggoten, had competition with invincible giant franchines, and almost no marketing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Sep 2017 21:51:06 No.95153815 Report

Quoted By: >>95154018 >>95155047

>>95153793
It wasn't just a financial failure, dude. Professional critics generally hated it, aswell.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Sep 2017 22:01:54 No.95154005 Report

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>>95145023
>>95152747
The darker tone was actually a CN mandate at the time, as they wanted to aim the movie at young men (ala Adult Swim I guess), but at the time of the movie's release CN had changed management and they went full-stop on that idea for the marketing

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Sep 2017 22:02:33 No.95154018 Report

Quoted By: >>95154055 >>95155047

>>95153815
What? It received mixed to positive reviews from critics at the time. It wasn't hated by any means.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Sep 2017 22:04:27 No.95154055 Report

Quoted By: >>95155004 >>95155047

>>95154018
Well shit. I could've sworn it had a lower percentage on RT. Oh well. I do remember Roger Ebert hated it, though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Sep 2017 22:04:29 No.95154059 Report

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>>95153793
It had some pretty extensive marketing, at least on Cartoon Network.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Sep 2017 22:56:27 No.95154888 Report

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>>95144376
Looking kinda marilyn manson there Sssnake.

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Anonymous Wed 06 Sep 2017 23:03:41 No.95155004 Report

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>>95154055
>I do remember Roger Ebert hated it
So it was a good movie then?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Sep 2017 23:06:28 No.95155047 Report

Quoted By: >>95155129

>>95153815
>>95154018
>>95154055
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/powerpuff_girls_movie

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Anonymous Wed 06 Sep 2017 23:11:00 No.95155129 Report

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>>95155047
Didn't have to link it to me, I already checked and conceded to being wrong.

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Anonymous Wed 06 Sep 2017 23:29:34 No.95155418 Report

Quoted By: >>95162791

twas a great movie

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Anonymous Wed 06 Sep 2017 23:30:50 No.95155440 Report

Quoted By: >>95155467

>>95146107
>casually judo flipping him in the superman episode.

Wasn't that superman dressed as batman?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Sep 2017 23:33:08 No.95155467 Report

Quoted By: >>95155483 >>95155484

>>95155440
No, in one of the later episodes of The Batman, Batman and Robin end up having to take on essentially the entire rogues gallery at once in a warehouse. Somehow they win.

You seem to be getting it confused with the episode of STAS where Batman was kidnapped by Brainiac

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Sep 2017 23:34:13 No.95155483 Report

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>>95155467
You're right, I'm sorry.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Sep 2017 23:34:14 No.95155484 Report

Quoted By: >>95155613

>>95155467
He's not talking about that episode, though. He's talking about the Superman two-parter in season 5.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Sep 2017 23:40:26 No.95155590 Report

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>>95153604
>>95153793
The faillure was simply because most boys were to embarassed to ask they parents to go watch the PowerPuff Girls on theaters

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Anonymous Wed 06 Sep 2017 23:41:47 No.95155613 Report

Quoted By: >>95155721

>>95155484
The thing is I never saw The Batman, as it, well, really turned me off for a lot of reasons. The dracula special was good but that's about it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Sep 2017 23:43:41 No.95155649 Report

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>>95144376
Literally every villain in Xiaolin Showdown.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Sep 2017 23:45:13 No.95155672 Report

Quoted By: >>95188344

>>95151074
>Talk about wasted potential.
He was intimidating on the first season, then a simply crime-lord just couldn't stand up to the evis wizards, demons and dragons running the show, I don't see his downfall as wasted potential at all

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Anonymous Wed 06 Sep 2017 23:47:01 No.95155721 Report

Quoted By: >>95156521

>>95155613
Season 4 in particular has extremely good writing, so if you do decide to give it another chance at some point I suggest trying that one first.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Sep 2017 00:25:23 No.95156521 Report

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>>95155721
We'll see. The joker for the batman really turned me off

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Anonymous Thu 07 Sep 2017 00:26:32 No.95156549 Report

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>>95144376

Galaxy Rangers is one of the few shows to avoid that, especially shows from the '80s.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Sep 2017 00:40:53 No.95156857 Report

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>>95156521
TB Joker is great, man. TAS Joker could NEVER pull off something like "The Laughing Bat", quite possibly my favorite episode of the whole series.

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Anonymous Thu 07 Sep 2017 00:49:34 No.95157048 Report

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>>95150918
>villain has great potential but very few writers actually use it and most of the time they're just a plot device or an easily replaceable bad guy amongst a bunch of other random bad guys
Sadly, even pic related (Waid's Daredevil) later turns to this with Owl

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Anonymous Thu 07 Sep 2017 02:10:26 No.95158805 Report

Quoted By: >>95160293

>>95145023
>Kind of like Alan Moore on some ways
Come on Anon.

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Anonymous Thu 07 Sep 2017 02:14:56 No.95158881 Report

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>>95144376
OGs

They're actually a pretty succinct life lesson in diversifying your interests and avoiding obsessive behavior.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Sep 2017 03:20:29 No.95160293 Report

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>>95158805
No i mean it, that part of the movie where the girls first met Mojo or the part where they had to face the hatred of townsville wase like Watchmen lite.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Sep 2017 03:36:12 No.95160626 Report

Quoted By: >>95162328 >>95165442 >>95169877 >>95170033

>>95144639
>Two Face
Faces, Half an Evil, that Gotham Central Arc, his part in DKR
>Bane
Vengeance of Bane, Secret Six, Gotham Knights "I may be your brother Batman" arc
>Scarecrow
Blackest Night, Detective 503, Detective 571, the Loeb Sale story from Haunted Knight, New Year's Evil

I'll admit I know much about Hugo Strange, but you're a gigantic fucking faggot casual who would rather bitch about characters than read about them

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Anonymous Thu 07 Sep 2017 03:39:04 No.95160681 Report

Quoted By: >>95161855 >>95162295 >>95167613 >>95171931 >>95183344 >>95183365

Genndy's Grievous is what General Grievous should've been, imo, not the weak ass shit we got in Revenge of the Shit. Also, I thought his white cape looked cooler than his black cape.

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Anonymous Thu 07 Sep 2017 04:43:38 No.95161855 Report

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>>95160681
Agreed

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Anonymous Thu 07 Sep 2017 05:08:59 No.95162252 Report

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>>95144639

But he has a GUN, anon. A GUN.

How can you call him anything other than the indisputable master of terror when he has a GUN?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Sep 2017 05:11:30 No.95162295 Report

Quoted By: >>95163572

>>95160681

What black cape?

Do you have any idea how hard it is to find a dry cleaners when you've got clones and Jedi on your ass all day every day? And you can't trust that shit to battle droids; you know they'd rip it five different ways just getting it through the door.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Sep 2017 05:12:51 No.95162328 Report

Quoted By: >>95162406

>>95160626
>"I may be your brother Batman" arc
wait what

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Sep 2017 05:17:13 No.95162406 Report

Quoted By: >>95162430

>>95162328
they had a story arc in the early 2000's or so where it looked quite likely that Bane was in fact the illegitimate son of Thomas Wayne, and thus Bruce's brother, this played heavily into Bane becoming an anti-villain for a while(and indeed in many respects stuck till Flashpoint outside of him randomly killing the second Judomaster during Infinite Crisis)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Sep 2017 05:18:35 No.95162430 Report

Quoted By: >>95163257

>>95162406
Is it any good? It sounds interesting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Sep 2017 05:42:36 No.95162791 Report

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>>95155418
My nigga, I watched that shit at my local movie theater when I was ten.
10/10 movie

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Sep 2017 05:49:14 No.95162897 Report

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>>95144601
Bane
The Penguin

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Sep 2017 05:50:16 No.95162912 Report

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>>95144639
Scarecrow's Arkham Asylum story is pretty good

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Sep 2017 05:56:02 No.95162975 Report

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>>95145051
Retard.>>95145068

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Anonymous Thu 07 Sep 2017 05:58:56 No.95163024 Report

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>>95150918
Name three prominent Riddler stories

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Sep 2017 06:16:14 No.95163257 Report

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>>95162430
Yea it was solid.

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Anonymous Thu 07 Sep 2017 06:22:49 No.95163349 Report

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>>95144376
I am happy, i'm feeling rigth

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Anonymous Thu 07 Sep 2017 06:26:51 No.95163391 Report

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>the villain is consistently intimidating
>dies in the most anticlimactic way possible
Hi, Toffee!

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Anonymous Thu 07 Sep 2017 06:34:22 No.95163477 Report

Quoted By: >>95187143

>villain is an worthless jobber, but gets reconstructed as an interesting and likable character.

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Anonymous Thu 07 Sep 2017 06:42:26 No.95163572 Report

Quoted By: >>95165130 >>95177989

>>95162295
In pre-revenge of the sith material, such as the Obsession/Republic comics and Genndy Wars, Grievous wears a white cape, but in revenge of the sith onward, he wears a black cape. This was a last minute design change.

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Anonymous Thu 07 Sep 2017 09:49:32 No.95165110 Report

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>>95144551
>A FREEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAK

Also is it just me, or does most of the movie have a weird green tint to it? They really wanted to sell Townsville as being a "crapsack" world in the movie

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Sep 2017 09:50:34 No.95165117 Report

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>>95144806
I liked dystopian Townsville, though

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Sep 2017 09:52:05 No.95165130 Report

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>>95163572
It's based on earlier concept art.
Also the black cape has a red interior

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Anonymous Thu 07 Sep 2017 10:06:14 No.95165240 Report

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>>95144376
The difference a movie budget can make

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Sep 2017 10:41:48 No.95165442 Report

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>>95160626
You're doing god's work, anon.

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Anonymous Thu 07 Sep 2017 11:31:59 No.95165781 Report

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>>95153305
>That was every villain
Not everyone. Some stayed pretty consistent.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Sep 2017 15:09:58 No.95167613 Report

Quoted By: >>95174372

>>95160681
>muh power levels
CG Clone Wars Grievous is the best Grievous.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Sep 2017 16:09:39 No.95168463 Report

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>>95153549
>Dominator being gud.
Granted, Season 2 was better but not because of that plot device.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Sep 2017 17:28:19 No.95169704 Report

Quoted By: >>95178208

>>95153452
>a crappy Doc Ock rip-off that has nothing of what made Hugo Strange appealing and was only added because they couldn't use Scarecrow

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Anonymous Thu 07 Sep 2017 17:41:25 No.95169877 Report

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>>95160626
>Gotham Knights "I may be your brother Batman" arc

Is that the one where it turns out Bane's dad is some lame as fuck White guy?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 07 Sep 2017 17:52:46 No.95170033 Report

Quoted By:

>>95144639
I'll second this post >>95160626 with

>Hugo Strange
>never anything else, ever
Should Old Acquaintance Be Forgot...
The Triumph of Hugo Strange
Prey
Batman and the Monster Men
Transference
The Double Life of Hugo Strange

You are a idiotic casual who has no idea what he's talking about and bitches about characters without knowing a damn thing about them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Sep 2017 18:30:43 No.95170652 Report

Quoted By:

>>95156857
My negro

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 07 Sep 2017 18:46:18 No.95170895 Report

Quoted By: >>95172450

>>95144376
>most popular villain is overused to the point where all other villains are one-note and boring
>the overused villain is also boring

Why have a rogues gallery when you only really have one?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Sep 2017 19:10:18 No.95171319 Report

Quoted By:

>>95144447
Princess?
They literally mention examples of her being a bitch from previous episodes in the Christmas special

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Sep 2017 19:12:33 No.95171357 Report

Quoted By: >>95179349

>>95144376
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVQDEUu1GDk

This is still probably the only truly terrifying thing in PPG.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Sep 2017 19:46:18 No.95171931 Report

Quoted By:

>>95160681
Absolutely. The entire point of Grievous was to be a literal alien contrast to Vader. His death shouldn't have been Kenobi shooting him to death, but Anakin being forced to give in to the Dark Side to beat an almost unstoppable force.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Sep 2017 20:14:00 No.95172450 Report

Quoted By: >>95183314

>>95170895
>villain periodically goes through cycles of GOAT portrayals (the Arkham series) and pointless ones (Suicide Squad) to sucker in big crowds, like the /co/ version of kindling the First Flame
>it's at the point that by the time LEGO got round to him, the joke is that he's been doing this forever and the rest of the rogues gallery exist to be basically his backup dancers

Probably because the writers can't think of a way to use the clown without having him be involved in everything

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 07 Sep 2017 21:00:09 No.95173286 Report

Quoted By: >>95174846 >>95180351

>>95144376
>villain is only intimidating in his second appearance

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 07 Sep 2017 21:03:01 No.95173336 Report

Quoted By: >>95173476 >>95173502 >>95175121 >>95179789 >>95183215 >>95183336

>>95144376
>new villain shows up to the bad guys crew
>is an unstoppable force the first time they appear
>becomes comic relief in all subsequent appearances

Why is this such a common trope?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Sep 2017 21:11:27 No.95173476 Report

Quoted By:

>>95173336
can't have too much badass

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Sep 2017 21:12:58 No.95173502 Report

Quoted By: >>95174334

>>95173336

Bad guys have to lose every single time in most cartoons. This bleeds the menace pretty quickly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Sep 2017 22:01:14 No.95174334 Report

Quoted By: >>95174593 >>95174685 >>95175858 >>95183366 >>95188761 >>95191288

>>95173502
Is there any villain who remains consistently menacing across diverse appearances?
I think the Shredder from the 2003 TMNT cartoon is a good example of this. but it's been to damn long since I last watched it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Sep 2017 22:03:09 No.95174372 Report

Quoted By:

>>95167613
shut up disneyfag

>what-? competent villains that can actually win? that's too scary for kids

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Sep 2017 22:14:25 No.95174593 Report

Quoted By:

>>95174334
I haven't watched it in a long ass time, I don't even recall if I saw the last season or so, but I remember Slade being menacing as hell.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Sep 2017 22:19:07 No.95174685 Report

Quoted By: >>95174817 >>95176006

>>95174334
I haven't watched it in a while but last I saw the newest Shredder was still pretty intimidating.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Sep 2017 22:25:54 No.95174817 Report

Quoted By:

>>95174685
All I've seen from him comes from Death Battle, shameful as that might be, but he did look pretty damn scary.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Sep 2017 22:27:25 No.95174846 Report

Quoted By:

>>95173286
this guy's only interesting quality is that he's yell-talking

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Sep 2017 22:41:34 No.95175121 Report

Quoted By:

>>95173336
Bad writing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Sep 2017 22:47:51 No.95175250 Report

Quoted By: >>95175265

>>95148779
what show is this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Sep 2017 22:48:39 No.95175265 Report

Quoted By:

>>95175250
Jackie Chan adventures

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 07 Sep 2017 22:53:19 No.95175372 Report

Quoted By: >>95175652

What took you so long? I decimated this village days ago, just for you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Sep 2017 23:04:24 No.95175652 Report

Quoted By:

>>95175372
That't not being intimidating, that's just being despicable. Decimating a village full of defenseless civilians isn't such an impressive threat, specially in a world that sees that every day.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 07 Sep 2017 23:11:14 No.95175802 Report

Quoted By: >>95178142 >>95178486 >>95187829

>>95162252
>bringing a fucking GUN into the classroom and firing it off to prove a basic point about psychology
Fuck, I really wish there was a retelling of his origin that emphasized on what an unnervingly quirky autist he was before he formally became a villain. Could you imagine your freaky, Ichabod Crane-looking professor pulling out a fucking piece in the middle of a lecture with zero self-awareness in a post-Columbine school system, in fucking GOTHAM of all places that would be the most likely place in the world to suffer from school shooters?

That could be the magnum opus of all Scarecrow stories right there, just make him the exact opposite of Robin Williams in the Dead Poet Society.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Sep 2017 23:13:28 No.95175858 Report

Quoted By: >>95175909

>>95174334
Dominator in Wander Over Yonder S2 was a threat throughout all her appearances. Victories against her consisted of successfully evacuating the planet before she destroyed it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Sep 2017 23:16:10 No.95175909 Report

Quoted By:

>>95175858
Yeah, that made it all the more satisfying when she finally got HATED.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Sep 2017 23:19:32 No.95176006 Report

Quoted By:

>>95174685

Shredder was always a constant threat. The current cartoon one pretty much had a constant hateboner over Splinter and not only managed to steal his daughter but even got to kill him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Sep 2017 23:19:41 No.95176011 Report

Quoted By:

>>95144376
>villain gets fifteen issues of backstory and build-up to their start of darkness
>even gets a villain code name
>appears one time, barely has a direct confrontation with the hero, and then is literally never referenced again ever

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Sep 2017 00:44:27 No.95177989 Report

Quoted By:

>>95163572

The joke was that it's the same cape but dirty.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Sep 2017 00:45:52 No.95178022 Report

Quoted By:

>>95144376
I remember rewinding this scene over and over. It's just so goddamn good. Ace is genuinely scary for once in his greasy life.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Sep 2017 00:46:42 No.95178044 Report

Quoted By:

>>95150506
[Mac tonight intensifies]

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Sep 2017 00:47:35 No.95178070 Report

Quoted By:

>>95144376
its egoraptor

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 08 Sep 2017 00:51:39 No.95178142 Report

Quoted By: >>95178497 >>95182422

>>95175802

It only gets better from there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Sep 2017 00:55:45 No.95178208 Report

Quoted By:

>>95169704
Actually, he was already an established villain before the episode where he replaced Scarecrow's role (which actually worked much better anyways).

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Sep 2017 01:08:46 No.95178486 Report

Quoted By:

>>95175802
Scarecrow's first appearence is fucking amazing and not ONCE does he ever use the gas during it (which seems to be all he's knonw for these days)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Sep 2017 01:09:22 No.95178497 Report

Quoted By:

>>95178142
Now that's how you do a fucking warning shot

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Sep 2017 01:45:43 No.95179349 Report

Quoted By:

>>95171357
can you imagine how Him would have looked if they made a second movie?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Sep 2017 02:03:57 No.95179749 Report

Quoted By:

>>95144639
>scarecrow
>i am vengeance i am the night i am batman
kill yourself

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Sep 2017 02:05:59 No.95179789 Report

Quoted By:

>>95173336
this is also a guarantee in pro wrestling
>debut as a monster
>put on a christmas hat a sing and dance merry christmas

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 08 Sep 2017 02:08:04 No.95179830 Report

Quoted By: >>95180319

>>95144601
Kraven's a lot more fun as a one shot specialist villain anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Sep 2017 02:34:39 No.95180319 Report

Quoted By: >>95187750 >>95189205

>>95179830
Poor man's Deathstroke.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Sep 2017 02:36:30 No.95180351 Report

Quoted By: >>95191181

>>95173286
>villain is never intimidating
FTFY.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Sep 2017 03:00:37 No.95180921 Report

Quoted By:

>the villain behind the active villain starts as an intimidating force that is never fully seen
>said villain behind the villain turns out to have been a good guy all along
Name it

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 08 Sep 2017 04:01:49 No.95182148 Report

Quoted By:

I like how the movie made subtle tweaks to make the villains look more threatening

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 08 Sep 2017 04:05:57 No.95182220 Report

Quoted By: >>95182241

*teleports behind you*

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 08 Sep 2017 04:07:01 No.95182241 Report

Quoted By:

>>95182220
pssht nothin' personnel... prof

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Sep 2017 04:16:13 No.95182422 Report

Quoted By: >>95183898

>>95178142
>Go to scare him
>Just fucking shoots him
I mean, if it works

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Sep 2017 05:00:35 No.95183148 Report

Quoted By:

>>95148779
This

Criminal kingpin turned shendu bitch boy

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Sep 2017 05:06:10 No.95183215 Report

Quoted By:

>>95173336
ANGRY CROW TAKES FLIGHT

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Sep 2017 05:13:35 No.95183314 Report

Quoted By:

>>95172450
>like the /co/ version of kindling the First Flame
I like you anon.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 08 Sep 2017 05:15:42 No.95183336 Report

Quoted By: >>95183376 >>95183396

>>95173336
>New villain shows up
>old villain forever downgraded

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Sep 2017 05:16:25 No.95183344 Report

Quoted By: >>95190900

>>95160681
Honestly why wasn't he fitted with Cortosis if he was meant to fight Jedi?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Sep 2017 05:18:04 No.95183365 Report

Quoted By:

>>95160681
We had a thread about this a few days ago. I hear that Grievous was conceptualized to be the way that Genndy made him but the technology just wasn't there in 2005 (when the movie was being put out) to animate a nine foot tall capoeira Jedi lizard cyborg. By the time it was finalized Genndy had to throw in the Mace crush to make it make sense, and so we got the punk we got.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Sep 2017 05:18:05 No.95183366 Report

Quoted By: >>95183997

>>95174334
VV Argost

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Sep 2017 05:18:53 No.95183376 Report

Quoted By: >>95185278

>>95183336

>New Villain and Old villain are defeated completely.
>Have never met failure and have a midlife crisis.
>They both fuck
>New villain calls them over the phone on how to defeat Heroes.
>Laugh your ass off with your wife.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Sep 2017 05:20:36 No.95183396 Report

Quoted By: >>95183992

>>95183336
>old villain is originally semi-incompetent and only ambiguously evil
>new villain one-ups him in competence and villainy and the old villain becomes pure comic relief
>...until eventually the old villain returns with a vengeance, becomes unambiguously evil and legitimately intimidating for the first time, and his change completely sticks for the rest of the run
Did this ever happen?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 08 Sep 2017 05:23:33 No.95183429 Report

Quoted By: >>95183558 >>95187145

>I was only pretending to be incompetent

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Sep 2017 05:37:09 No.95183558 Report

Quoted By:

>>95183429
>proceeds to get played like a chump anyway because the writer was a hack who never even watched or read an ounce of GI Joe in his life

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 08 Sep 2017 06:09:13 No.95183898 Report

Quoted By:

>>95182422

That's the best part, it didn't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Sep 2017 06:14:53 No.95183967 Report

Quoted By: >>95191930 >>95192347

>>95144639
t. someone who only read one comic from each of these villains and assumes all others are the same.

Except for Bane, anything else they attempted to do with him sucks. He was only good for the Vengeance of Bane/Knightfall arc.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Sep 2017 06:17:04 No.95183992 Report

Quoted By:

>>95183396
tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NotSoHarmlessVillain

Not *quite* what your looking for, but it's still in the "shitty villain turns out to be an actual threat" vein

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Sep 2017 06:17:23 No.95183997 Report

Quoted By:

>>95183366
Secret Saturdays was quite good in that department, heck the downer ending was actually tasteful.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 08 Sep 2017 06:36:02 No.95184210 Report

Quoted By:

Ace's entrance is class

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 08 Sep 2017 06:45:17 No.95184325 Report

Quoted By:

>>95144601
>they keep adding up to that same story and trying to repeat the same beats they end up ruining it

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Sep 2017 07:47:45 No.95185067 Report

Quoted By:

>>95146286
>>95146306
Ultimate Spider-Man Double Trouble

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Sep 2017 07:52:45 No.95185122 Report

Quoted By: >>95187125

>>95146107
the years after Batman and Robin where a terrible time for any bane fan

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Sep 2017 08:08:01 No.95185278 Report

Quoted By: >>95192895

>>95183376
I-isn't that the story of Zed and Rita from Power Rangers? Right down to the phone call from Divatox and Rita laughing her ass off?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 08 Sep 2017 12:25:41 No.95187125 Report

Quoted By:

do the dark riders/riders of the storm count?

they only appeared intimidating in the "what would you do to deal with them?" but never really got to put their money where their mouths are against x-factor and to anyone since.

>>95185122
i think secret six did something to gain his rep back but dunno how much of it got affected by the dark knight rises

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Sep 2017 12:27:52 No.95187143 Report

Quoted By:

>>95163477
>Single bang
>You fired six rounds.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Sep 2017 12:28:22 No.95187145 Report

Quoted By:

>>95183429
I like how he mocked some guys in the Transformer's cartoon because "terrorist aren't what they used to".

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Sep 2017 13:39:30 No.95187750 Report

Quoted By:

>>95180319
That would be Deadshot.

But you probably say that about any competent villain who can make good use of prep-time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Sep 2017 13:47:19 No.95187829 Report

Quoted By:

>>95175802
>in fucking GOTHAM of all places that would be the most likely place in the world to suffer from school shooters?

Most school mass shootings (as opposed to gang shootings) happen in suburbia, not in the big city.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 08 Sep 2017 14:12:42 No.95188106 Report

Quoted By: >>95188143

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Sep 2017 14:15:08 No.95188143 Report

Quoted By:

>>95188106
Yellow Diamond, sure. Blue Diamond though is more the opposite. A pathetic giant woman at first and then you see she's capable of not fucking around.
>I want to hear her make her case. I want to know what she thinks we're going to do with her.
>Because I want to do something worse.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Sep 2017 14:30:16 No.95188344 Report

Quoted By:

>>95155672
If anything, his demotion in terms of intimidatingness was hilarious.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Sep 2017 14:38:12 No.95188464 Report

Quoted By:

>>95158881
In the Manga they go straight then get married and have a kid.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Sep 2017 15:01:55 No.95188761 Report

Quoted By:

>>95174334
The Lich managed to keep a pretty intimidating presence for a while there, until the giant baby thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Sep 2017 15:40:12 No.95189205 Report

Quoted By: >>95189239

>>95180319
Hey! Kraven isn't a pedophile!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Sep 2017 15:42:29 No.95189239 Report

Quoted By:

>>95189205
not yet anyway (that someone will retcon that into existence is always a possibility)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Sep 2017 15:47:54 No.95189312 Report

Quoted By: >>95192266

>that villain that's only considered bad because of the heroes keeping calling all he does evil and bad, when what's actually shown seems to never go further than being a sarcastic dick, who actually has reasons to be angry as everything he does gets everybody to kill him nuHitler.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 08 Sep 2017 17:03:35 No.95190433 Report

Quoted By:

>>95144376
This guy trashed Rex in his first appearance, and when he showed up later with Kane, not only did they ignore his characterization (no one kills my prey but me) but Rex beats him in like a second

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Sep 2017 17:29:02 No.95190900 Report

Quoted By:

>>95183344
Fucking THIS!
Hell, if the CIS got their mitts on those eels that Thrawn had and just added the glands to him too, Grievious could have WALKED into the Temple and ended every Jedi in there

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Sep 2017 17:50:07 No.95191181 Report

Quoted By: >>95193461

>>95180351
He was so unintimidating I was legitimately surprised when he was the last boss.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Sep 2017 17:57:50 No.95191288 Report

Quoted By:

>>95174334
Skeleton king from super robot monkey team hyperforce go!, the guy got more evil in every appearance.

Most of the recurrent villains got a similar upgrade to match, even the "fan" and Scrapperton, heck even the TV monster that was already almost indestructible gets an upgrade.

Fuck I miss super monkey team.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Sep 2017 18:34:37 No.95191930 Report

Quoted By:

>>95183967
Eh. I kinda liked his role in Arkham War, but it was kinda mediocre and he got beat at the end for no real reason other than "lol batman is badass".

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Sep 2017 18:52:06 No.95192266 Report

Quoted By:

>>95189312
Did that really happened?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 08 Sep 2017 18:56:04 No.95192347 Report

Quoted By:

>>95183967
not liking surrogate dad bane?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 08 Sep 2017 19:16:33 No.95192839 Report

Quoted By:

does "bigger, better replacements are introduced too quickly" count?

even though they are instrumental in many of the antagonist's victories, the fact that their replacements are introduced too quickly meant their status as (tough) cannon fodder was inevitable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Sep 2017 19:19:19 No.95192895 Report

Quoted By:

>>95185278
Yes, yes it is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Sep 2017 19:47:46 No.95193461 Report

Quoted By:

>>95191181
Likewise. I was expecting him to be a minion of a more menacing villain.

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