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Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 10:18:26 2017 No.94754369 View Reply Original Report

What went wrong?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2017 10:22:58 No.94754405 Report

Do you want my worthless opinion or a bunch of regurgitated contrarianism?

Because I don't think the film did anything wrong.

Happy holding on to the wedding rings since 2008 made me laugh though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2017 10:25:23 No.94754430 Report

Quoted By: >>94757178 >>94757313

>>94754369
They made it a comedy but didnt give any of the jokes to spidey
also without uncle Ben there wasnt enough of a guilt complex

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2017 10:28:08 No.94754451 Report

Quoted By: >>94754563

>>94754405
>Because I don't think the film did anything wrong.
>did anything wrong
>the film was literally perfect

What's the opposite of a contrarian? A Disney cocksucking shill? At least contrarians aren't bound by a paycheck.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2017 10:32:13 No.94754478 Report

Quoted By: >>94755784 >>94756184 >>94758738 >>94759473

>>94754369
They did one of these but inserted Tony into it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2017 10:38:41 No.94754530 Report

Quoted By: >>94754540 >>94754553 >>94754657 >>94754818 >>94756853

>>94754369

It's about to pass ASM2's worldwide take while being substantially cheaper and not having opened in China yet. If it gets the average Marvel film's reception there. it'll probably wind up being the third most successful Spidey film worldwide.

It's a reboot that surpassed the series that preceded it. That's all it really needed to do.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2017 10:40:07 No.94754540 Report

Quoted By: >>94754548 >>94762124

>>94754530
>It's about to pass ASM2's worldwide take
I love how this as seen as an accomplishment.

Didn't MCUfags say this would break 1bn?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2017 10:41:21 No.94754548 Report

Quoted By: >>94754562

>>94754540
It's almost as bad as suicide flop that said they would break 1b too

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2017 10:42:39 No.94754553 Report

Quoted By: >>94761608 >>94762149

>>94754530
Nah Raimi's trilogy still reigns supreme in terms of quality and box office.

Yeah I said it. SM3 was better than this shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2017 10:43:56 No.94754562 Report

Quoted By: >>94758291

>>94754548
I mean, SS isn't really a $1bn franchise. Any claim that SS would hit $1bn was just memeing.

MCUfags genuinely thought that SM:HC would hit $1bn though, because of "muh normie popularity" or whatever.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2017 10:43:56 No.94754563 Report

Quoted By: >>94754573

>>94754451
>Having any positive opinion about this thing
>shill

Fuck off! Come back when you are smarter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2017 10:45:07 No.94754573 Report

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>>94754563
This movie was only positive because ASM makes it look good in comparison.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2017 10:57:54 No.94754657 Report

Quoted By: >>94754831

>>94754530
>It's about to pass ASM2's worldwide take

kek

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Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2017 11:13:42 No.94754797 Report

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>>94754369
No Jonah Jameson.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2017 11:15:55 No.94754818 Report

Quoted By: >>94755005

>>94754530
domestically it it beat the shit out of the amazing spider-man series but it's nowhere near beating rami trilogy specifically 1, that made a lot of money.

and it's only 100 million behind WW and yet it's what 5 weeks left to match it.

so yeah i think it's going to sit somewhere around 3rd place as far as money.

which isn't bad, it did prove it's point that sony needed marvel to not fail.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2017 11:17:13 No.94754830 Report

Quoted By: >>94754847

>>94754369
In my personal opinion, the biggest flaw was Spidey not beating the villain. After beating Peter up Vulture just kind of accidentally blew himself up. Very unsatisfying.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2017 11:17:19 No.94754831 Report

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>>94754657
asm2 actually did really well internationally, it just did really shitty domestically and ended up making the least out of any of the movies over all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2017 11:19:10 No.94754847 Report

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>>94754830
he earned the vultures respect, to he had a moral victory? or idk like a personal victory.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2017 11:30:18 No.94754955 Report

Quoted By: >>94755109 >>94758710

>underdeveloped secondary characters
>love interest is a plot device
> 'MY FRIENDS CALL ME MJ' unnecessary pandering to spider-fans, doesn't even work
>ned's fedora
>karen

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2017 11:33:39 No.94755005 Report

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>>94754818
>domestically it it beat the shit out of the amazing spider-man series but it's nowhere near beating rami trilogy specifically 1, that made a lot of money.

It'll make less than the Raimi films but, barring the first one, it was also a lot cheaper than they were. Especially Spider-Man 3 which cost almost half again as much to make as Homecoming did.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2017 11:38:40 No.94755065 Report

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I enjoyed it, but I'm probably in the minority here.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2017 11:42:38 No.94755109 Report

Quoted By: >>94755205

>>94754955
The first two are pretty much universal to any Spider-Man movie. I don't get the Karen one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2017 11:46:25 No.94755152 Report

Quoted By: >>94758192

>>94754369
>spidey is now just a generic MCU quipster except he also wants daddy tony's dick

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2017 11:51:16 No.94755205 Report

Quoted By: >>94755227 >>94755326

>>94755109
>James Franco's Harry
>Kirsten Dunst's MJ
>underdeveloped
nigga, Surly Truckdriver had more character development than Homecoming's supporting cast

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2017 11:53:39 No.94755227 Report

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>>94755205
Maybe because they played a huge part in the plots of the movies they starred in? It's not obligatory for a supporting cast member to do that tho.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2017 11:54:33 No.94755237 Report

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>>94754369

Literally nothing, it was probably the best MCU movie but contrarian tryhards have to hate it since its popular and they get their personal identity from being counter-culture on an anime image board.

!AnaxDatAss

!AnaxDatAss Sat 19 Aug 2017 11:58:38 No.94755279 Report

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>>94754369
Amy Pascal.

AGAIN

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2017 12:00:34 No.94755291 Report

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Came out at the wrong time.
If this movie was somewhere around phase 1 or early phase 2 it'd be alright but after the crazy shit in Dr Strange and GotG2 and with Ragnarok, Infinity War, etc. at the horizon it felt completely out of place and borderline boring to see Spider-Man run around in the neighbourhood chasing after vans with the spectacle bar being set so high by now.

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Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2017 12:01:08 No.94755301 Report

Quoted By: >>94756891

>>94754369
they designed Zendaya's character after Boingo

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2017 12:03:43 No.94755326 Report

Quoted By: >>94755397

>>94755205
Harry motivational in hating spider-man is stupid. Really? He supported a father that try blow up buildings?

At-least MJ is good.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2017 12:11:18 No.94755397 Report

Quoted By: >>94755491

>>94755326
>Harry motivational in hating spider-man is stupid.
>He supported a father that try blow up buildings?
>can't pay attention to anything but explosions
he didn't know his dad was GG in the first Spiderman. he also clearly had daddy issues explored throughout the movie
GREAT character development? arguable. better than just giving a character autism? definitely.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2017 12:22:30 No.94755491 Report

Quoted By: >>94756149

>>94755397
>GREAT character development? arguable. better than just giving a character autism? definitely.

Ned isn't harry and he haven't have any personal issue with peter parker yet. He suppose to be written as peter parker goofy best friend.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2017 12:38:21 No.94755608 Report

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The insist having spiderman as a highschooler.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2017 12:57:54 No.94755784 Report

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>>94754478
>They did one of these but made it all about something Tony said
ftfy
for real, they had the perfect moment to drop the main motto for Spiederman but setled for a "durrr, ur not te suit, beliv in urselv", this got me beyond mad

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2017 13:35:43 No.94756149 Report

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>>94755491
Well miles's best friend but since it's peter we are looking at.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2017 13:39:08 No.94756184 Report

Quoted By: >>94757313

>>94754478
I mean, what Tony said was on point, but they shouldn't make Tony into uncle ben. However I thought this scene was still done really well. Tom Howards performance was really good as a teenager waaaaay in over his head and freaking out under that rubble made all the more of him getting back up again that much better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2017 14:35:31 No.94756823 Report

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>>94754369
They advertised the teen drama element as being a major driving force of the movie, comparing it to the work of John Hughes, when the end result for those scenes was Disney Channel original movie tier. Hughes films have sincerity and weight behind them; the school scenes in Homecoming felt like meaningless fluff for the most part.

The film has wasted potential written all over it, considering the hero and villain are both among the best in the MCU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2017 14:38:52 No.94756853 Report

Quoted By: >>94758307

>>94754530
>It's a reboot that surpassed the series that preceded it. That's all it really needed to do.
I mean, if you're a producer with an investment in the film, sure.

To be a good film it had to do a lot more, though.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2017 14:41:42 No.94756891 Report

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>>94755301
>not Oingo

Contemptible.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2017 14:49:41 No.94756983 Report

Quoted By: >>94757284

>>94754369
You posting the same OP pic again.
Like, at least there is more pictures, like the pic Murata did for the Japanese release.

Like, damn.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2017 15:00:20 No.94757121 Report

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Comic fans are too stupid to realize that it use multiple Source materials to make an amalgam Spider-Man

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2017 15:04:15 No.94757178 Report

Quoted By: >>94757246 >>94757313

>>94754430
>also without uncle Ben there wasnt enough of a guilt complex

This. Uncle Ben should be the father figure casting the longest shadow on Peter's life, not Stark

Like how Pa Kent should be Superman's main father figure, the one he got all his morals and motivation from, not hologram Jor-El

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2017 15:09:12 No.94757246 Report

Quoted By: >>94758492

>>94757178
Why do they insist on hologram Jor-El? It is a stupid idea. Let Clark grow up and figure out his powers with his adoptive parents. Have a tape recorder from his birth parents locked into his ship, but fuck off with the hologram.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2017 15:09:59 No.94757253 Report

Quoted By: >>94758049

>>94754369
no Tom Holland full frontal shots

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2017 15:12:22 No.94757284 Report

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>>94756983
>expecting /co/ to not just be lazily repost the same thing for weeks

You deserve better, anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2017 15:14:29 No.94757313 Report

Quoted By:

>>94754430
>>94756184
>>94757178
I understand why they didn't want any Uncle Ben flashbacks; there's no need to revisit that scene itself. What I don't get is why they pretty much scrubbed the film of Ben's presence altogether.

Hell, the whole 'Uncle Tony' thing would have been way more interesting if they actual touched on the idea that Tony is moving into a space that used to belong to someone else in Peter's life.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2017 16:02:27 No.94757938 Report

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The villain did literally nothing wrong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2017 16:04:52 No.94757971 Report

Quoted By: >>94758050 >>94758115 >>94759700

>>94754405

>anything wrong

>Flash Thompson is a skinny midget who's not even a bully

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Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2017 16:09:27 No.94758049 Report

Quoted By: >>94758112 >>94758224

>>94757253
Give it time. He's in that WW2 romantic drama now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2017 16:09:29 No.94758050 Report

Quoted By: >>94758981 >>94759230

>>94757971
How is Flash not a bully? Honestly, he was the most positive surprise of the movie for me. I was pretty unhappy about a midget FLash, but the actor was charismatic enough to pull it off.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2017 16:13:32 No.94758101 Report

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It's just another Spider-Man movie and it's a reboot that came far too soon after the previous one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2017 16:14:19 No.94758112 Report

Quoted By: >>94758164

>>94758049
what a faggot

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2017 16:14:23 No.94758115 Report

Quoted By: >>94758981 >>94759230

>>94757971
This I disagree with. Ravioli Ravioli was a great bully, without needing stature or mass, he could dominate a scene by being an egomaniacal douchebag. Favourite part of the movie.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2017 16:14:50 No.94758123 Report

Quoted By:

>>94754369
>critically acclaimed
>easily 700m WW, goes for 800

You tell me what went wrong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2017 16:15:24 No.94758137 Report

Quoted By:

>>94754369
Bring yet ANOTHER reboot and not being patient

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2017 16:15:35 No.94758141 Report

Quoted By: >>94758153

My question is how will they keep up this new status quo of Spider-Man with a movie every 2 years. They have to flesh out Michelle for one, but I get the feeling they will cut corners like how Aunt May discovers Pete is Spidey.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2017 16:16:16 No.94758153 Report

Quoted By: >>94758231

>>94758141
>I haven't seen the movie

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2017 16:17:01 No.94758164 Report

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>>94758112
I know he's great isn't he.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2017 16:18:27 No.94758177 Report

Quoted By: >>94758200

I fucking can't stand Spider-Man fans anymore. Especially since black arm bands are what triggers them about the current costume.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2017 16:19:38 No.94758192 Report

Quoted By:

>>94755152
>Spider-Man
>Not quipping

What is wrong with you?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2017 16:20:05 No.94758200 Report

Quoted By:

>>94758177
But his arms aren't blue, they're supposed to be peach colored like his tummy!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2017 16:21:29 No.94758224 Report

Quoted By: >>94758235 >>94758278

>>94758049
Did he photoshop himself into the background?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2017 16:21:56 No.94758231 Report

Quoted By: >>94758289 >>94758588 >>94758959

>>94758153
I have seen the film. Flash trying to save his trophy first was a part I really laughed at, and the best gags were "I was looking at...porn" and "It's great that no student was hurt...like last time..."

And Aunt May discovering Pete's identity was a last minute gag that ruined the big fallout. So now we'll get Aunt May saying shit like "You better take out the trash before you hang with the Avengers!"
"But Aunt May! I need to save the world!"
"And my kitchen needs saving first!

Seriously, Aunt May was a fucking joke this film.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2017 16:22:11 No.94758235 Report

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>>94758224
That's his Totally-Not-My-Boyfriend-Friend

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2017 16:24:47 No.94758278 Report

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>>94758224
Since Holland tagged him in it probably not. He's likely just sat down because he's naked or something.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2017 16:25:13 No.94758289 Report

Quoted By: >>94758442 >>94758588

>>94758231
How did it ruin the fallout?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2017 16:25:27 No.94758291 Report

Quoted By: >>94758416 >>94758506

>>94754562
>SS isn't really a $1bn franchise
Neither is Spider-Man. None of the movies have broken a billion so why expect any different now?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2017 16:26:31 No.94758307 Report

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>>94756853
Good thing most people disagree with you

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2017 16:26:57 No.94758319 Report

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>>94754369
Boardroom movie.

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Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2017 16:28:45 No.94758351 Report

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>>94754369

>he thinks something went wrong!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2017 16:32:20 No.94758416 Report

Quoted By:

>>94758291
If Spider-Man is Marvel's most iconic and popular superhero, on the same level as Batman, then yes, he SHOULD be raking in a billion.

And no, Iron Man is not Marvel's most iconic or popular hero. Robert Downey Jr is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2017 16:33:42 No.94758442 Report

Quoted By: >>94758480 >>94758588

>>94758289
Think about it. The last second of he film is "WHAT THE FU-"

Then we have Infinity Wars + Avengers 4.

Spider-Man 2 is confirmed to happen minutes after Avengers 4 ends. So we'll skip the big talk and then we'll juts have Aunt May being in on the joke so writers don't have to try as hard for Pete to sneak around. It's entirely convenient for the writers since they don't have to put in much effort.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2017 16:35:52 No.94758480 Report

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>>94758442
I don't see how that's a bad thing. Plus they've been hyping up bring the One-Shots back, I bet we'll get The Talk as a short

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2017 16:36:24 No.94758492 Report

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>>94757246
I dont mind hologram jor-el as it was done in the donner film. In that, "Jor-El" had preprogrammed responses to questions he assumed Kal would ask. But then smallville and MoS did the whole, living AI thing, which is pretty stupid.

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Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2017 16:37:14 No.94758506 Report

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>>94758291
My guess it's because such a recognizable name and people like going studios marvel movies. So to them it seemed like a good investment.
But I think the problem is with last reboot being so recent and sucking plus being SO many kinds of superhero movies out nowadays, this Spider-Man was just came out as white noise which makes me wonder about the future...

but marvel should waited till Spider-Man felt a bit more fresh

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2017 16:42:18 No.94758588 Report

Quoted By: >>94758621 >>94758643

>>94758442
>>94758289
>>94758231

It ruins it because it's treated so light-heartedly.

Aunt May discovering that Peter is Spider-Man shouldn't be a little joke, it should have weight.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2017 16:44:20 No.94758621 Report

Quoted By: >>94758739

>>94758588
He's not even a year into being Spider-Man, why should it have weight?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2017 16:45:40 No.94758643 Report

Quoted By: >>94758739

>>94758588
>Aunt May discovering that Peter is Spider-Man shouldn't be a little joke, it should have weight.

THIS Aunt may haven't show any hatred towards spider-man. In comics, She thought he was a menace or maybe i getting confuse with the 90's cartoon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2017 16:50:12 No.94758710 Report

Quoted By:

>>94754955
Also
>PENIS PARKER XDDDD

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2017 16:51:49 No.94758738 Report

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>>94754478
That irritated the hell out of me. They didn't earn that scene. Tony pulling some Mufasa bullshit so Peter can stop someone from stealing a plane? Goddamn

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2017 16:51:54 No.94758739 Report

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>>94758621
Him only being a year into being Spider-Man should make it have more weight. It's only been a year since she lost Ben to the thief, and now Peter is going out there and putting himself in danger nightly.

>>94758643
I never said it was about hatred. I dislike how fluffy and light the high-school stuff is. For Spider-Man to function best as a character, his civilian life needs to be much more grounded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2017 17:04:53 No.94758959 Report

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>>94758231
Aunt May is almost a necessity as a mentor in future films because Tony is a piece of shit in regards to Peter. He grabs Peter and coaxes him to fight a team of superheroes on the other side of the world without informing Pete's legal guardian, after which he drops Peter at his home with a new suit and then remains out of contact with him for months. Despite Tony ostensibly waiting until Peter has more experience, he in no way facilitates Peter's development as a superhero. Despite the suit containing something literally called the "Training Wheels Protocol" and an AI system that functions as a personal aid Peter is unaware of their existence and has no ability to access them until the OS is cracked. The entire thing with the ferry is entirely on Tony as he intentionally locked Peter out of the loop regarding informing the Feds. Despite his complicitness with the ferry, Tony blames Peter entirely, takes the suit away, then humiliates Peter with the clothing he gives him so he can get home (it should be noted that its the second time in the film that Tony leaves Peter to find his own way home despite the obvious difficulties in doing so). And finally, even though he has both Toomes and Shultz's faces on record, since we learn the suit records and transmits everything to Tony, they're both able to freely go about their lives - indicating that Tony never released the information. Homecoming makes Tony look like a genuinely terrible person.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2017 17:05:56 No.94758981 Report

Quoted By: >>94759077 >>94759152

>>94758050

>>94758115

A bully is define as someone who has some sort of power over others.

Flash in this movie has absolutely ZERO power over Peter as compared to his previous incarnations.

He's not smarter than Peter obviously.

He's not stronger than Peter since hes shorter and does not even have the stature to match.

He's not more popular than Peter since everyone fucking hates him.

Hell he doesn't even have anything resembling a noble quality seeing how he SHOVED OTHER PEOPLE ASIDE TO SAVE HIS SKINNY HIDE.

There is literally nothing about him that elevates him above his previous incarnations, Spider man Homecoming did some things right but why people say Flash "PENIS PARKER" Thompson was one of them I have no idea.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2017 17:10:07 No.94759077 Report

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>>94758981
He's much, much richer than Pete. Wealth can buy you some popularity.

Not that I like the depiction that much, but I can see the avenue of power here.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2017 17:14:17 No.94759152 Report

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>>94758981
Dude managed to get an entire party to chant "Penis Parker." Flash might be a tryhard dick, but from the looks of things most people tolerate how he behaves towards Peter.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2017 17:17:55 No.94759230 Report

Quoted By: >>94759335

>>94758115
>>94758050
Whatever you want to call this, this was not fucking Flash Thompson.
I'm not even too bothered by the fact that he's not a stereotypical school bully.

Let's compare, shall we?

Let's see what defines Flash in the original comics

>Hates Peter
>Good guy deep down
>Dumb Jock
>Number 1 Spider-Man fan

So let's compare that to MCU Flash now

>Hates Peter
Check.
>Good guy deep down
Nope. He was a selfish coward who literally pulled Liz out of the way to save himself in the elevator
>Dumb Jock
This guy is a Smart math nerd, and is smaller than Peter.
>Number 1 Spider-Man fan
Flash didn't really care about Spider-Man in this film at all. Spider-Man saves his friends lives and the only thing he wants to know from Spider-Man is if Peter's lying or not

I don't need for Flash to beat Peter up, he really didn't do it in the original comics all that much other than a couple times he got physical. But why not still let him be a sports star? Wouldn't him being strong in addition to smart just help empathize that he thinks he's better than Peter?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2017 17:22:55 No.94759335 Report

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>>94759230
No one seems to care about Spider-Man in this film. Despite Spider-Man being around for a year and, as shown by the film, patrolling for hours every day, people seem weirdly nonplussed by a superhero running around, especially when you consider that in the MCU there is only a dozen of them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2017 17:23:18 No.94759341 Report

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I don't really get how Pete seemed so strong in Civil War but so useless here. You can beat the shit out of adult soldiers turned heroes, but can't stop a guy with a gun?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2017 17:28:43 No.94759473 Report

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>>94754478
Yeah this was my only real issue with the movie. I mean in terms of the self contained movie story the scene was alright but they wasted one of Spider Man's most iconic moments. They could have even used it in Infinity War and it would have felt more deserved as long as they used the original dialogue instead of making it about Tony

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Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2017 17:40:13 No.94759700 Report

Quoted By: >>94759778

>>94757971
O man they ruined everyones favorite character Flash Thompson!

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2017 17:44:10 No.94759778 Report

Quoted By: >>94761904 >>94762038

>>94759700
And what if I told you he was my favorite character?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2017 19:04:07 No.94761354 Report

Quoted By: >>94761545

>most comic accurate Spider-Man film yet
>/co/ hates it
Seems about right seeing how /co/ doesn't read comics

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2017 19:13:09 No.94761545 Report

Quoted By: >>94761571

>>94761354
>most comic accurate
Anon, it's basically impossible to be 100% 'accurate' to a comic that's been running straight since the early 60's.

Besides, fidelity isn't quality.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2017 19:14:16 No.94761571 Report

Quoted By: >>94761725

>>94761545
>taking from multiple parts of a rich history isn't being accurate
What?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2017 19:15:56 No.94761608 Report

Quoted By: >>94762281

>>94754553
>SM3
>Better
>The franchise killer for the original trilogy

Pfft.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2017 19:18:12 No.94761668 Report

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>>94754369
not enough vulture

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2017 19:19:11 No.94761699 Report

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>>94754369
I liked it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2017 19:20:16 No.94761725 Report

Quoted By: >>94761868

>>94761571
Surely it's hence made inaccurate by the fact that it's a mishmash of stories, then?

Again, I'm not saying accuracy is necessarily a good or bad thing, I'm saying that the quality isn't just about being accurate. Yes, the film included many elements from Spider-Man's comic book history, but I think that they totally misfired on the tone, especially in the high school scenes. It took up so much of the film (as Peter's life should in a Spider-Man film), but missed why Peter's trials and tribulations when the mask is off are so important to the character. There's little weight to those scenes, because they're shot and written like a Disney Channel teen sitcom, and Spider-Man more than many other heroes needs a grounding weight in his supporting cast to emphasize that he's an average dude.

Particularly, characters like Flash and Liz were incredibly one note.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2017 19:25:29 No.94761868 Report

Quoted By: >>94762129

>>94761725
>it's inaccurate by taking from the source material
I still can't wrap my head around this. It doesn't matter that Ultimate Peter was in a 616 based high school with Miles stuff in it, it's still being accurate to the source by basing it's material off of those parts.

I agree with Liz, but Flash was fine. They can make him a bigger Spider-Man fan boy in the sequel and I absolutely buy this actor playing military Flash later on.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2017 19:26:56 No.94761904 Report

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>>94759778

I don't get flash Thompson fans, this is the FIRST movie. This flash Thompson got plenty of books and character development.

Edge

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Edge Sat 19 Aug 2017 19:29:00 No.94761947 Report

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>>94754369
If the original wasn't broken, then why a need to fix it?
>1).Mexican Flash 2).Brown Merry Jane

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2017 19:29:10 No.94761949 Report

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>>94754369
It exceed my expectations, but I had really low expectations for the movie anyway.
Michael keaton as the Vulture was the best thing about this movie

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2017 19:30:49 No.94761996 Report

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>>94754369
Too much Sony and the garbage ideas from Amy Pascal.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2017 19:32:34 No.94762038 Report

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>>94759778
>favorite character
>posts a scene that takes place well past Homecoming's time frame complaining it's not like the page

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2017 19:36:23 No.94762124 Report

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>>94754540
>Batman v Superman is going to break a billion!
>Suicide Squad is going to break a billion!
>Guardians of the Galaxy 2 is going to break a billion!
There are idiots on both sides, MCUfags are worse than Snyderfags in a lot of ways (and vice versa obviously) but both are equally bad at predicting the box office

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2017 19:36:34 No.94762129 Report

Quoted By: >>94762238

>>94761868
>I still can't wrap my head around this
I'm saying that the whole 'accuracy' debate is a sideshow because everyone has their own definition of accurate.

I agree that I can buy the actor playing Flash, even if he isn't a traditional depiction; Revolori is definitely a talented actor. My issue is that they didn't really suggest any growth for the character at all; he's just there to provide someone who'll put Peter down.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2017 19:37:25 No.94762149 Report

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>>94754553
>Yeah I said it. SM3 was better than this shit.
Raimifags are somehow worse than Snyderfags and MCUfags combined

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2017 19:41:45 No.94762238 Report

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>>94762129
There is no other definition of accuracy other than the literal definition, the film was accurate. You're thinking of an individual's interpretation of what they believe Spider-Man should be based on the part of the history they were exposed to. It's not a case of comic inaccuracies, it's purely a case of "not muh"

I could have sworn that there was a part where he fanboyed out over Spider-Man.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2017 19:43:46 No.94762281 Report

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>>94761608
SM3 didn't kill the original trilogy retard. It was Sony wanted to force shit into Spider-Man 4.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2017 19:51:56 No.94762451 Report

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It's nice they didn't say Great power comes great responsiblity

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2017 20:01:18 No.94762652 Report

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This thread is fucking retarded

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