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Anonymous Thu 25 May 22:47:47 2017 No.92697347 View Reply Original Report

Could modern day earth stop a gem invasion?

We have nukes now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 May 2017 22:51:24 No.92697431 Report

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>>92697347
Considering it would be an invasion, wouldn't that mean nuking ourselves?

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Anonymous Thu 25 May 2017 23:15:20 No.92697950 Report

Quoted By: >>92698918 >>92699505 >>92701791 >>92709991 >>92716277 >>92719245

Since World War II didn't happen I don't think they have nukes in that world. I remember somebody saying that that world is pretty docile when it comes to human behavior.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 May 2017 23:21:26 No.92698101 Report

Quoted By: >>92727395

Wouldn't weaponized sound be enough to keep them at bay on a battlefield?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 May 2017 23:23:40 No.92698146 Report

Quoted By: >>92699549 >>92707118

>>92697347

I want you to think about how much raw power it would take to generate a beam of light -a beam of LIGHT- that can make something like the Red Eyes to fucking EXPLODE. Think about how much force and energy would be required to do something like that.

Now I want you to think about how the Hand Ship, a small carrier vessel that was by-and-large considered disposable enough for two gems to take to a planet on the verge of exploding, shrugged of not one not two but FOUR such beams impacting at once. It did not stop or slow down.

Homeworld war machines would facetank conventional nuclear weapons without breaking a sweat. You'd need to rapid-fire Czar Bombas at them to do anything, and you'd still fuck all of us long before you fucked any of them.

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Anonymous Thu 25 May 2017 23:33:57 No.92698376 Report

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>>92697347
Yes. Gems are weak and dumb

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 May 2017 23:38:11 No.92698473 Report

Quoted By: >>92698516 >>92698873 >>92698981

We would easily hold them off. Their cores are just regular gems and its shown they can be easily shattered. If Bismuth's spike weapon can shatter a gem Im sure a bullet can.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 May 2017 23:40:01 No.92698516 Report

Quoted By: >>92698836 >>92698873 >>92698981

>>92698473
>If Bismuth's spike weapon can shatter a gem
A feet can shatter a gem

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 May 2017 23:54:05 No.92698836 Report

Quoted By: >>92698873 >>92698913 >>92699448

>>92698516
hell, Im surprised there was a successful invasion in the first place. They just use melee weapons, primitive humans should have been able to shatter some gems.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 May 2017 23:55:46 No.92698873 Report

Quoted By: >>92698981 >>92699976 >>92705758

>>92698473
>>92698516
>>92698836

Which brings up the question of why they don't armor themselves to protect their one real weakness.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 May 2017 23:56:38 No.92698894 Report

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>>92697347
>we have nukes now
>laughing gems just use their powerful lasers to shoot down the nukes
>proceed to use space based lasers to blast all resistance

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 May 2017 23:57:21 No.92698913 Report

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>>92698836
>Im surprised there was a successful invasion in the first place
No one was there to fight

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 May 2017 23:57:25 No.92698915 Report

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>>92697347
Who cares? they are not real you autist.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 May 2017 23:57:31 No.92698918 Report

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>>92697950
Nuclear radiation was theorized as a means of energy well before the world wars.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 May 2017 23:58:07 No.92698937 Report

Quoted By: >>92699023 >>92699185 >>92704459

>>92697347

Only if the Gems did it REALLY stupidly.

The fact remains that individual gem soldiers are much more durable, faster, and stronger than we are. We use guns, sure, but Gems can just fucking powerjump to close the distance and say "we are in melee now, fuck you" any time they want. Which is probably why the gems never really were too keen on ranged weapons anyway, since in all of their fights the ranged portion of it is almost nonexistent.

Then you get into bullshit gem powers, like future vision (the tactical advantage of which is HUGE) or offensive combat tricks like Opal's bow and arrow, which can fire once and then split into a dozen different well aimed shots. Or completely OP shit like that little blue fairy things wand, which can apparently just stunlock and toss around whole groups of people without repercussion. And unlike a gem, being thrown hundreds of feat into the air will kill a human.

Based on the feats of strength we see Quartz class gems perform, they can tear metal with their bare hands. Dismantling a tank might not be easy, but chances are good they can do it. A fusion certainly can.

Someone is going to point out 'hurr durr, we can just shoot them in the gems!' Of course you can. But THEY can just hit YOU in the ANYWHERE. The number of kill shots you can get on gems in a fight will pale in comparison to what they can do in return, because you have to aim to hit a pretty small target in a chaotic battlefield, and they can just punch you to death or throw a car at you.

Meanwhile, they also have orbital superiority. Assuming they are not really, really dumb, they can cripple global efforts to resist them by destroying the majority of our communications infrastructure in space, meaning that GPS and lots of long range communication just ceased to exist.

And that's not even counting them just blasting our cities from orbit and calling it a day.

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Anonymous Thu 25 May 2017 23:59:28 No.92698981 Report

Quoted By: >>92699008 >>92699104 >>92699238 >>92699424 >>92700040 >>92700791 >>92701969 >>92704290 >>92712786 >>92716564 >>92722105

>>92698873
>>92698473
>>92698516
>Shatter meme

Someone did the math from Amethyst's fall. A gem would take 40000 joules to actually shatter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 00:00:39 No.92699008 Report

Quoted By: >>92699122

>>92698981
>using math
>in a kids show
Autismo

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 00:01:23 No.92699023 Report

Quoted By: >>92700102

>>92698937

Nukes are our only shot at taking down their ships, and if we can't take down the ships we literally cannot win.

This is problematic, because even assuming they can't shoot down the missiles, they can just outrun them. There isn't any serious warmup time on that black hole FTL they have. As soon as they detect an incoming missile, they can just pop around to the other side of the planet, or dodge out of the solar system and return in ten minutes after the missile has run out of fuel.

We don't even really have nukes as a unique advantage either. 5000 years ago they had the Shooting Star, and that shit is a WMD. Homeworld likely has worse by now.

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Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 00:04:31 No.92699104 Report

Quoted By: >>92699233 >>92700160

>>92698981

How much is that compared to anything? Numbers don't really mean anything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 00:05:14 No.92699122 Report

Quoted By: >>92699559

>>92699008
This. Also it implies that Bismuth's weapon spikes a gem with 40,000 joules of force instantly, which is more force than a 14.5×114mm gun. Like the art of that show the logic of it has no consistency. Also I don't think you could really call shattering a meme considering how every time its brought up in the show every character collectively shits a brick and cries for the remainder of the episode.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 00:05:40 No.92699136 Report

Quoted By: >>92699206

>>92697347
>Gems can be poofed by a thrown pipe
>use overwhelming melee weapons

Literally that only we have to fear is the orbital bombardments. Why the fuck the gems haven't informed the world governments is beyond me

Oh wait no it's not, it's because Sugar thinks it'll be more interesting to the story if the crystal gems baby sit an obese and literally mentally retarded 15 year old

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 00:07:58 No.92699185 Report

Quoted By: >>92699322

>>92698937
>but Gems can just fucking powerjump to close the distance and say "we are in melee now, fuck you" any time they want. Which is probably why the gems never really were too keen on ranged weapons anyway, since in all of their fights the ranged portion of it is almost nonexistent.

Why people ALWAYS say this? We are SHOW that Gems can use ranged attacks - like Pearl shoting lasers from her spear, Opal doing multiple kinds of shots with her bow, and Rose having canons that can destroy a fucking meteorite in one shot.

To not talk about the lasers on their ships too.

Gems have plenty of ranged attacks, all more powerful than conventional guns.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 00:08:45 No.92699206 Report

Quoted By: >>92699340 >>92699356

>>92699136
Orbital bombardments are a fucking meme. A nuke detonated in space would wreck any nearby ships.

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Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 00:09:45 No.92699233 Report

Quoted By: >>92699631 >>92699934 >>92700160

>>92699104

Well, fuck. Quick google search turns up this.

I'd have to hear the logic behind that anon's math, but even half that means that gems are actually really fucking durable. Enough that most of our guns wont actually kill them with a single shot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 00:09:59 No.92699238 Report

Quoted By: >>92710901

>>92698981
She's a big girl.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 00:13:24 No.92699322 Report

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>>92699185
We know from the show that ballistic damage wrecks them. Who fucking cares about lazes when the weapon the gems considered to be the deadliest was a fucking arm mounted spike.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 00:14:06 No.92699337 Report

Quoted By: >>92699406

As others have said, the gay space rocks can just gunsmoke Earth with their spaceships.

The show is fairly inconsistent in showing how strong/durable an individual gem is, but why would one assume that if soldiers were to engage gems they'd have to aim for a gems ... gem to win? Gems have gotten poofed by swords, sticks, and being squeezed too hard so why wouldn't soldiers just poof enemy gems and then shatter them at their leisure?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 00:14:16 No.92699340 Report

Quoted By: >>92699500

>>92699206
Oh yeah but it's the only threat they have. People seriously underestimate how well our nuclear arsenal can be used as planetary defense.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 00:14:55 No.92699356 Report

Quoted By: >>92699484 >>92727359

>>92699206

What? No, you fucking idiot.

Space is a vacuum. There is no shockwave. A Nuke will fuck up, at worst, a single ship on a direct hit. If it explodes even 10 meters away from the surface of its target, the damage done to the ship will be mostly heat rather than force. Two ships would basically have to be docked for the nuke to hurt both of them.

This is especially true of actually armored ships belonging to an advanced civilization. Our modern spacecraft are basically balloons, and can be torn apart by just very small debris. Advanced spacecraft also wouldn't give a fuck about the radiation burst, because if you are built for interstellar travel the energy spike from a nuke is bus fare compared to the electromagnetic output from stellar bodies.

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Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 00:16:21 No.92699406 Report

Quoted By: >>92699768 >>92710901

>>92699337

Why shatter them when you can have your own harem of multicolored rock waifu slaves, or the most bitchin' jewelry on the planet?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 00:17:10 No.92699424 Report

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>>92698981
Didn't Lapis' gem get cracked because someone stepped on it as they were running away? Did that particular gem just deliver a super powered stomp as one last screw you before evacuating?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 00:17:58 No.92699448 Report

Quoted By: >>92699522 >>92700382

>>92698836
>They just use melee weapons, primitive humans should have been able to shatter some gems.
They very well may have. The armor and weapons in Rose's armory could be for humans to wear. I figured that there were probably some human auxiliaries in crystal gem armies during the war.
Remember, Sadie, a relatively out of shape human, was able to poof a corrupted gem with a fucking sharpened piece of wood.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 00:19:06 No.92699484 Report

Quoted By: >>92699617 >>92699709 >>92700356 >>92710805

>>92699356
The EMP would instantly fuck up their ships
Plus space being a vacuum means nothing is stopping the detonation from continuing forever and fucking up the ship

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 00:19:47 No.92699500 Report

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>>92699340

You mean absolutely terribly?

We are at the bottom of a gravity well. They are not, in any way, obligated to come close to us to throw shit in our direction.

We would need to spend weeks, or at the bare minimum days if we for some reason were already planning for this, preparing special rockets with enough fuel to launch even a single nuclear payload at an enemy in an orbit on par with the moon, and they would have FOUR FUCKING DAYS to shoot the rocket down as it crossed the distance. Or, you know, move.

We have thousands of nukes at our disposal, but we can not get any of them to an enemy in space in any reasonable amount of time unless they are basically kissing our atmosphere.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 00:20:08 No.92699505 Report

Quoted By: >>92710901

>>92697950
jesus why are puppies so cute?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 00:21:00 No.92699522 Report

Quoted By: >>92699726

>>92699448
So wouldn't conventional fire arms fuck up gems big time?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 00:21:47 No.92699549 Report

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>>92698146
but you just have to hit their weak point, their gem. we can break diamonds easy

I don't think you even need nukes for that

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 00:22:11 No.92699559 Report

Quoted By: >>92699740

>>92699122
That's kind of the point of the Breaking Point man. It's really strong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 00:24:16 No.92699617 Report

Quoted By: >>92699666

>>92699484
>emp

Wtf? Where did you get that?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 00:24:56 No.92699631 Report

Quoted By: >>92700235

>>92699233
The numbers for how much damage they can take are bullshit
How did they even come up with it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 00:26:17 No.92699666 Report

Quoted By: >>92699821

>>92699617
You didn't know nuclear explosions create emps did you?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 00:28:00 No.92699709 Report

Quoted By: >>92699799 >>92699860

>>92699484
>The EMP would instantly fuck up their ships

Why? WE have military hardware that immune to EMP. And we don't sit in space beyond the safety of a planet's electromagnetic field getting bombarded by cosmic rays that fuck up any unsheilded electronics.

> Plus space being a vacuum means nothing is stopping the detonation from continuing forever and fucking up the ship

Okay, let me break this down very simply.

There is no air in space. Its a vacuum.

Force needs a medium to transfer through. Heat benefits from this too, but can make do with radiation in a pinch at the cost of efficiency.

If you explode a nuclear bomb, it will atomize the materials of the bomb itself into plasma. The mass that made up the bomb will expand in all directions, carrying the force of the explosion. But because there is no air to interact with, that force WILL NOT be transferred to anything else unless the expanding bubble of plasma hits it directly.

The explosive potential of the bomb is thus largely wasted, even if the bomb detonates only a short distance from the target, and even a mile away from your target the mass of your bomb is so diffused that you will just knock their shit around a little, dealing no real harm, because you are not hitting them with a massive wave of force. You are hitting them with a few very sparsely spread out atoms, going very fast.

Unless your bomb was a shaped charge, the vast majority of your explosive potential isn't even going towards the ship. Its actually going the opposite direction, because the rocket that carried the nuke to its destination (probably the greatest source of mass of the detonating body) is behind the bomb.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 00:28:22 No.92699723 Report

Quoted By: >>92703291 >>92710901

>Light speed to
>Gems send down Rubies
>They fuse and destroy metro area
>Quartz soldiers are sent for actual war
>Lazulis drown sea areas
>Worse comes to worse, glass the surface with hand ships

There would literally be nothing we could do.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 00:28:26 No.92699726 Report

Quoted By: >>92699815

>>92699522
Most likely. I think gem durability works like a balloon almost, except much harder. They appear to be very durable to blunt impacts and extreme conditions, but surprisingly weak to piercing weapons.
Case in point
>Pearl
>poofed by a sword (granted, the sword could be special gem metal or something, it's unclear)
>Jasper
>Poofed by a sharpened piece of metal
Like how I compared it to balloon: you can bat it around as much as you want, but take a needle to it, and the whole thing falls apart.
Guns with high penetration capability would be best for anti-gem warfare though. I'm not sure a shotgun or lighter caliber pistol/SMG could do the trick.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 00:28:58 No.92699740 Report

Quoted By: >>92699856 >>92699859 >>92699889

>>92699559
No, it just means the guy who did the math was a retard. Assuming the gem weighs 1kg, which is pretty fucking generous, it would have to fall for over 4 kilometers in order for its kinetic energy just before impact to be 40,000 joules. There is no way in hell Bismuth's weapon did that much damage.

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Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 00:30:03 No.92699768 Report

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>>92699406
you know I wonder if it's possible for a human on that earth to have a zoo of gems like the gems have a human zoo, made possible due to poofing and then not allowing a gem to reform until in a proper containment zone

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Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 00:31:12 No.92699799 Report

Quoted By: >>92699860 >>92699876

>>92699709
We literally do not have emp proof electronics
The only thing we have is putting shit behind fuckloads of lead or in the ground

Also your space is a vacuum argument is bullshit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 00:31:55 No.92699815 Report

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>>92699726
I think it works more like any other crystal structure. You wont shatter it with the energy weapons used in the show, you wont scratch it, it can take a lot of applied force, but hard impacts just shatter them.

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Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 00:32:15 No.92699821 Report

Quoted By: >>92699913

>>92699666
I mean where did you get the idea that electromagnetic would fuck up Gem tech? It's by far their most impressive asset.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 00:33:47 No.92699856 Report

Quoted By: >>92699889 >>92699927

>>92699740

The original math was for Amythest. I'm pretty sure that her whole body weighs more than 1kg, even if maybe her gem itself weighs that. If she did, the absurd air drag from her physical form would basically act as a parachute.

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Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 00:33:52 No.92699859 Report

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>>92699740
Dude, the gem didn't fall. Amethyst with the Gem embedded in her chest fell. And onto a sharp rock with her arms and legs at her side. And the gem didn't even crack.

Why can't Bismuth's weapon be that strong? The point is that it would change everything. Obviously it has to be fucking strong as hell.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 00:33:53 No.92699860 Report

Quoted By: >>92699988

>>92699709
>>92699799
Stop acting like a moron and read up about the bullshit you claim to know shit about

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-altitude_nuclear_explosion

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 00:34:34 No.92699876 Report

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>>92699799
In his defense the space vacuum argument is right. In a vacuum a nuke will just sent out a lot of radiation, but the EMP would probably fuck with the electronics of the ships. I

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 00:35:01 No.92699889 Report

Quoted By: >>92699963

>>92699740
>>92699856
All of this is bullshit because SU fans have been telling me for fucking weeks that the reason the fights suck add and don't have momentum is because the gems are mostly light and don't have mass

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 00:35:33 No.92699902 Report

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>>92697347
They have orbital lasers, they could toast us without ever setting foot on the ground. The medieval weaponry is for fun. Why press a button when you can lop off heads and feel the blood hit your face?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 00:35:48 No.92699904 Report

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>>92697347

Gems could be ok in warhammer40K universe. They only need to ally with the Tau empire and as gem auxiliaries can survive most of w40K insane dangers.

what do you think about modern earth? we are fucked. Any space faring race is advanced enough to destroy us.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 00:36:08 No.92699913 Report

Quoted By: >>92705027

>>92699821
I mean I assumed their space shit ran on electronics and not some stupid gem magic plot patch

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 00:36:39 No.92699927 Report

Quoted By: >>92700643

>>92699856
If the argument relies on the weight of her full form and not just the gem then the claim that 40000 joules is needed to shatter her gem is bullshit because her body would have absorbed most of that shock. Her body may have taken that much force, but not her gem.

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Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 00:36:53 No.92699934 Report

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>>92699233
That's just from commercially available firearms. Once you get into military hardware the numbers go up A LOT.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 00:38:03 No.92699963 Report

Quoted By: >>92700160

>>92699889
Being light doesn't mean they lack mass. Also I used 1kg for my math, which is very light.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 00:38:28 No.92699976 Report

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>>92698873
Vanity and an unchecked reign. Homeworld has had it too easy for too long, they've gone complacent.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 00:38:46 No.92699981 Report

Quoted By: >>92710901

>>92697347

>don't need to eat or drink
>don't need air to survive
>ageless
>naturally stronger and resilient
>technology indistinguishable than magic
>every gem is armed
>fast "reproduction" cycles
>can live in space

what do you think anon? We only need to know how strong they are against bullets and explosions and we are fucked.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 00:38:54 No.92699988 Report

Quoted By: >>92712313

>>92699860

Your link explictly explains why its not a threat in space.

> The gamma rays penetrate the atmosphere and collide with air molecules, depositing their energy to produce huge quantities of positive ions and recoil electrons (also known as Compton electrons). The impacts create MeV-energy Compton electrons that then accelerate and spiral along the Earth's magnetic field lines.

The unique conditions of high altitude atmosphere allow for a large dump of electrons that spread and fuck up an area. In space, without air molecules to interact with, you don't get this effect.

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Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 00:40:06 No.92700016 Report

Quoted By: >>92700286

>>92697347
Diamond-tipped sniper rounds

The America in SU seems more inclined to have a lot of libertarian and conservative prepers all over the place with well armed local militias.
No WWII, but they still won independence. This could be similar.

As for modern earth, yeah duh

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 00:40:08 No.92700018 Report

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>>92697347
Gems win.

The problem everyone is over looking is that the gem race is an empire. Sure they may lose a ship or two to nukes. But they'll quickly learn from such mistakes and just attack from afar.

Actually scratch that. They could easily systematicly disable us simply by taking out our satalites. Our military systems are heavily reliant on GPS. Without satallites to coordinate most first world nations are fucked. Watch this video https://www.c-span.org/video/?428018-1/witnesses-warn-electromagnetic-pulse-attack-damage-us-electric-grid if you want to learn just how weak the US power and military system is to EMP attacks.

From there we enter panic mode as nations start being over taken. Allies back stab each other and try to send nukes/missles at each other thinking sacrificing one nation is worth it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 00:41:01 No.92700040 Report

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>>92698981
Some gems are strong, but some are brittle. And even the strongest ones have points in their cuts where a precise slice can split the gem in half easily.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 00:43:30 No.92700102 Report

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>>92699023
>5000 years ago they had the Shooting Star
I completely forgot about that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 00:45:10 No.92700146 Report

Quoted By: >>92700221 >>92700563 >>92700564

Aren't they just actual gems at their core? Couldn't humans just get a shit ton of giant amplifiers and shatter the gems with waves of high frequency sound until they shatter and die Venom style?

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Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 00:45:26 No.92700160 Report

Quoted By: >>92700331 >>92700763 >>92705087 >>92716607

>>92699104
>>92699233
>>92699963
All this talk of cracking/shattering is pretty null. Gems will be damaged and shattered as the plot demands likely without much regard to actual force.

That is unless you think pic related is stomping down with the force of multiple shotgun blasts or something.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 00:45:35 No.92700163 Report

Quoted By: >>92700190 >>92700925

>>92697431
like that would ever stop us. humans are fucking stupid and would destroy the earth and ourselves if it means they can't have it

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 00:46:44 No.92700190 Report

Quoted By: >>92700269

>>92700163
I fail to see how that is stupid.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 00:47:41 No.92700221 Report

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>>92700146
sound can't travel in a vacuum and gems can attack from high orbit

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Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 00:48:11 No.92700235 Report

Quoted By: >>92710944

>>92699631
from Amethyst's fall.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UV1NiqGVGQo

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Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 00:49:47 No.92700269 Report

Quoted By: >>92700478

>>92700190
>Not giving up Earth to superior lesbian overlords

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Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 00:50:34 No.92700286 Report

Quoted By: >>92700476

>>92700016
You do know that just because diamonds are hard they can still shatter right? I think any metal besides those that are liquid at room temperature would make a better bullet.

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Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 00:52:01 No.92700318 Report

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>gems are a thre-

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Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 00:52:29 No.92700331 Report

Quoted By: >>92710944

>>92700160
I think somebody earlier brought up the fact that a foot could shatter a gem. The argument comes from some retard thinking tens of thousands of joules are needed to shatter a gem.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 00:53:50 No.92700356 Report

Quoted By:

>>92699484
A simple flask robonoid was shown to be impervious to an EMP blast that took out an entire town's electricity.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 00:55:01 No.92700381 Report

Quoted By: >>92710944

Didn't a normal teenage girl poof a gem with a stick?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 00:55:06 No.92700382 Report

Quoted By: >>92705984

>>92699448
Corrupt gems are noticeably far weaker and easy to poof.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 00:58:22 No.92700476 Report

Quoted By: >>92700574

>>92700286
>besides those that are liquid at room temperature
Just put them in a heat-resistant shell. Bullets are all about the mass and maintaining shape is only important until the point of impact (to make sure all the energy is condensed in a small area; hardness isn't a factor).

Alternately put them in a shell designed to break apart in launch. Shooting a high-velocity mist of Mercury at someone sounds like a pretty horrific experience. Well, to a person anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 00:58:24 No.92700478 Report

Quoted By: >>92700576 >>92705151

>>92700269
The only good gem is a dead gem

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIGHCoVzqtk

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 00:58:35 No.92700484 Report

Quoted By: >>92710984

>>92697347
Of course. The Diamonds are awful leaders, being women after all, and the Gems are too autistic to be able to adapt to new situations easily.
I mean, if two gems, one hideous freak of nature and one mongrel can hold Homeworld at bay, what chance have they against seven billion humans?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 00:59:31 No.92700514 Report

Quoted By: >>92713342

>>92697431
We'd have to nuke them in space, before the get inside the atmosphere. Upper atmosphere might be fine too, depending on the weapon in question.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 01:00:38 No.92700544 Report

Quoted By: >>92702087 >>92714404

>>92697347
homeworld has an army
earth has the MURDERCOCK

although, Earth as a resource by homeworld's perspective is spent. Humans have mined and terraformed most of the planet so prime kindergarten spots and places to build would be compromised in quality.

Logistically, it wouldn't make sense for homeworld to conquer earth no matter how resource starved they are. that's like invading a country just to get at their scraps.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 01:01:23 No.92700563 Report

Quoted By:

>>92700146

Its not as simple as that. Creating the frequency to shatter a material is hard to do outside controlled conditions, and different gems have different compositions so you can't have a single frequency that kills all of them even if you did make it work somehow.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 01:01:30 No.92700564 Report

Quoted By:

>>92700146
A gem war would be like vietnam war.

Only they are the Americans and we are the piss ants. And they have no moral obligations or hang ups with nuking everything should something go wrong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 01:02:00 No.92700574 Report

Quoted By:

>>92700476
I like the point about only needing mass and shape, because mercury is super dense it might make a good bullet. But imagine a battlefield dense with mercury mist while you as a human are fighting the personification of a rock.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 01:02:00 No.92700576 Report

Quoted By:

>>92700478
this niggas got the right idea

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Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 01:03:45 No.92700622 Report

Quoted By: >>92710984 >>92713825

If FUCKING sadie and peridot can poof gems everyone can.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 01:04:35 No.92700643 Report

Quoted By: >>92700693

>>92699927
She landed right on her gem and there's an audible crack. Not counting air drag, her gem took full impact.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 01:06:08 No.92700693 Report

Quoted By: >>92702517 >>92710984

>>92700643
Don't pull shit bull shit on me, Lapis was cracked by a fucking foot. Unless you are telling me that foot hit with at least 40000 joules of force your argument is complete bullshit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 01:07:53 No.92700739 Report

Quoted By: >>92700865 >>92700882

I think everybody in this thread is forgetting that an entire gem invasion was pushed back by a few gems using melee weapons. If orbital bombardment was an option then they would have glasses the surface of our planet because they had no moral issues with destroying all life on Earth.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 01:09:01 No.92700763 Report

Quoted By:

>>92700160
>believing Lapis the rapist's story
Lapis is a liar who has zero proof. Her word is as good as nothing, so the stomping argument is null.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 01:10:08 No.92700791 Report

Quoted By:

>>92698981
But have you considered the possibility that the Gems' cores have similar physical makeups to their real world counterparts? If this were true, then a single measurement may not be accurate to account for the large varieties of Gems we've encountered.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 01:12:47 No.92700865 Report

Quoted By: >>92701066

>>92700739
Back in the rebellion rose did have laser cannons that could destroy capital ships

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 01:13:22 No.92700882 Report

Quoted By: >>92701066 >>92702212

>>92700739
>using melee weapons
and a commander who could summon an army of expendable plant soldiers, and who could heal any gem injury shy of a full shattering, and who readily fused into enoromous kaiju as the situation needs

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 01:14:56 No.92700925 Report

Quoted By:

>>92700163
Nukes wouldn't destroy the Earth though. Do you even realise how many hundreds of nukes we've set off already?

>Gems land and get out their melee weapons
>Tactical nuke
>Gems leave, assuming the Cluster will get us

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 01:20:28 No.92701066 Report

Quoted By: >>92701372 >>92701401 >>92706075

>>92700882
>>92700865
Completely missing my point. Sure they could deal with land units and near earth ships. But one of the better arguments for the gems winning was bombardment from space, even from a range outside of earths orbit. However, the home-world gems did not use that option then when if would have been the most logical option for a race largely governed by logic, with some exception. This leads me to believe either they wont use bombardment or they cant, and that their ships have a shorter range. Either way, I don't see why you two are arguing against me, you are basically affirming my argument that even with the home-world technology they can be driven away.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 01:32:02 No.92701327 Report

Quoted By:

>>92697347
Revolutionary War era weaponry and proper strategy could stop them. Becky's story HINGES on the fact that there are no guns.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 01:33:47 No.92701372 Report

Quoted By: >>92701548 >>92703921

>>92701066
>largely governed by logic

The whole point of the Gempire is they only claim to be governed on logic and are actually based on bullshit tradition, a rigid caste system, and the Diamonds' feefees.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 01:35:02 No.92701401 Report

Quoted By:

>>92701066
They probably didn't simply because they wanted to minimize the amount of forces lost and relied mostly on troops in the nearby star system. Its also possible that the CG's had some HW ships as well or supporters among the air fleet considering Pearl remittances about the aerial fights they got into.

We see that once HW considered the planet a lost cause that they easily wiped out everyone in one blow.

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Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 01:41:34 No.92701548 Report

Quoted By:

>>92701372
>only claim to be governed on logic and are actually based on bullshit tradition, a rigid caste system, and the Diamonds' feefees.
How curious is it that they're women, too?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 01:50:40 No.92701791 Report

Quoted By: >>92714340 >>92714389 >>92719245

>>92697950
>Since World War II didn't happen
Wait what, where does it say it never happened?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 01:57:27 No.92701969 Report

Quoted By: >>92705093

>>92698981
>A gem would take 40000 joules to actually shatter.
Lapis got poofed from getting punched and then cracked from getting stepped over.

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Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 02:00:44 No.92702068 Report

Quoted By: >>92702194 >>92705433

Are you talking about the Earth of Steven Universe or OUR Earth?

Because OUR Earth would kill the shit out of the Gems. We're some brutal, bloodthirsty motherfuckers, and we have a frightening array of extremely powerful weapons. America could probably beat a Gem invasion all by itself. Pic related, I'd like to see how a squadron of Gems would do when they had to eat minigun.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 02:01:19 No.92702087 Report

Quoted By: >>92710265

>>92700544
>murdercock meme
A gem has to willingly form a varguba for that to work, Greg.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 02:02:46 No.92702124 Report

Quoted By:

>>92697347
Humans would win, so long as that little shit, Steven remains fictional.

He's constantly sparing the enemy's life and destroying effective weapons to combat gems.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 02:04:58 No.92702194 Report

Quoted By: >>92702359

>>92702068
The destruction done by one assault rifle would be deadly, let alone an actual fucking minigun. That would just rape them so hard it'd turn them all straight.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 02:05:37 No.92702212 Report

Quoted By:

>>92700882
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Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 02:11:13 No.92702359 Report

Quoted By: >>92702434 >>92702738 >>92712911

>>92702194
A normal human who knows how to use a pistol could easily kill a gem. The only thing homeworld has on earth is orbital strikes and it's a huge plot hole as to why they didn't do that to Rose from the first place

Unless of course the female leaders are irrational and ruled by their emotions kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 02:12:45 No.92702412 Report

Quoted By:

>>92697431
You're implying we don't already do that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 02:13:33 No.92702434 Report

Quoted By: >>92702549

>>92702359

Haven't watched the show in a long time, couldn't she just no sell with shield barriers?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 02:16:18 No.92702517 Report

Quoted By:

>>92700693
>Lapis was cracked by a fucking foot
Where's the proof? You only have a shitty gem's word.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 02:17:44 No.92702549 Report

Quoted By:

>>92702434
Isn't Rose just a normal quartz? I don't know how powerful the average quartz is, but I highly doubt a single one of them could shield an entire planet, much less from sustained orbital bombardment.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 02:19:47 No.92702608 Report

Quoted By: >>92702733 >>92703040 >>92703604 >>92704549 >>92705593 >>92719716

>>92697347
gems are dumb as shit. literally zero organization and no incentive to follow orders. an organized military like rome could kick their asses.
>inb4 space ships
based on the how the handship went down, we can guess that handships are only impervious against gem tech (i.e. light based weapons) and modern projectiles can rip that thing apart. (i.e. a cannon or a catapult)

but apparently in SU, since europe was so fucked rome wouldnt even exist so whatever

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Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 02:23:12 No.92702711 Report

Quoted By: >>92702745

I know this is tangentially related, but does anyone else thing the diamonds are kind of terrible at being sociopaths? I mean, it's clear that they view other gems as merely tools, and they don't even recognize human beings as even being on the same level as gems. But to the audience, gems aren't shown to be more mentally or emotionally advanced than humans. Even the diamonds still have emotions, tempers, and show grief. So what is the logic in saying that the diamonds are the most advanced, most perfect beings in the universe, when any observer will realize that they're no different from humans?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 02:24:09 No.92702733 Report

Quoted By: >>92703040 >>92704765

>>92702608
The more I think about this the more it bugs the SHIT out of me, because with this being true, how is anything Sugar is trying to communicate in SU going to be effective?

I understand that all fantasy and science fiction involves worlds that aren't our own, but in the case of SU it's more than just a fantastical medieval setting or a setting far in an advanced tech future. Sugar has literally crafted a world radically different than ours in very deep, calculated ways, and, moreover, in ways that would result in fundamental changes to human nature as it has developed in history. It could be argued that the humans in SU aren't equivalent to the humans in our own world, because their history and corresponding sense of self is so fundamentally unlike what we have.

And in that case, how do any of the show's morals translate over into our own world? What on earth can we learn from Steven, Connie, Greg, etc., when they by all accounts live and act and even think in ways that are nothing like our ways? On the surface, SU isn't as fantastical as some other fantasy/sci-fi worlds, but when you dig a little deeper, it's so utterly alien that it's hard to find common ground with the people who live on it.

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Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 02:24:22 No.92702738 Report

Quoted By: >>92703211 >>92703242 >>92703340 >>92703997 >>92706229

>>92702359
There's no fucking way a pistol could stop your average Gem. Garnet, who isn't even as strong as Topaz, can jump into the stratosphere, casually toss around cars, move faster than eyesight, swim in lava etc. I wouldn't be surprised if Garnet was bullet time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 02:24:33 No.92702745 Report

Quoted By:

>>92702711
Propaganda.

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Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 02:32:01 No.92702942 Report

Quoted By:

This machine kills gems.

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Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 02:35:45 No.92703040 Report

Quoted By: >>92703113 >>92703252 >>92703607

>>92702733
>>92702608
>rome and greece did not exist
ayo hol the fuck up
how the FUCK does anything in SU resemble our world in any way? we'd all be in fucking tribes if not for rome and greece. stevens first thought in the moon base should have been
>"ooo big big land across big big lake, me take tribe with blessing of witch doctor and take all da gold *pounds chest furiously*"
is sugar completely fucking oblivious to history?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 02:37:08 No.92703065 Report

Quoted By: >>92703250 >>92703289

I'm pretty sure a handgun would be able to shatter most gems

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Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 02:39:14 No.92703113 Report

Quoted By: >>92703418

>>92703040
>is sugar completely fucking oblivious to history?

She's taking a LOT of creative liberties

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 02:42:10 No.92703211 Report

Quoted By: >>92703375

>>92702738

Gems get hit with so conventional weapons and they poor
You don't even need to kill them to take them out of the fight

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Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 02:42:13 No.92703214 Report

Quoted By: >>92703281

so can it be ANY earth? cause i can think of one empire that would go into an autistic genocidal fit at the sight of a human-alien hybrid

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 02:43:16 No.92703242 Report

Quoted By: >>92703942 >>92705593

>>92702738
really? you say this as the "perfect gem soldier(tm)" got shrekt by an autist with a stick

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 02:43:35 No.92703250 Report

Quoted By: >>92703418 >>92717479

>>92703065

Depends on the handgun. A .22 can't even reliably shatter human bone.

The problem, of course, is actually HITTING the gem, something a lot of 'lolguns' arguments seem to overlook.

People are a lot harder to kill when you have to hit a single specific part of their body that is often an inch or two across at most, and is often in a random place on the body so you can never train for shooting only for the optimal kill.

Shooting the gem first requires figuring out where their gem IS. Unless you are an undiscovered sniper, the gem uses that time to either jump 70 feet and spinkick your skull out of your body, or just incinerate you or some other bullshit.

Hell, modern Peridots suck, but if an old-school Peridot had the same level of control over their metal powers and most gems do in their special abilities? Just a couple of oldschool Peridots can just take away your guns. Bend the barrels, render them useless, move on tot he next guy while the soldiers mop up the hilariously defenseless humans.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 02:43:47 No.92703252 Report

Quoted By: >>92703380

>>92703040
She also prevented the world wars so Japan should own literally all of Asia

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 02:43:56 No.92703259 Report

Quoted By:

>>92697347
Probably since the gems seem fucking retarded

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 02:44:33 No.92703281 Report

Quoted By: >>92703350

>>92703214
He said MODERN, you 40k-brony.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 02:44:46 No.92703289 Report

Quoted By:

>>92703065
Honestly this, I find it funny that they're treated as almost invincible when they're extremely fragile beings.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 02:44:52 No.92703291 Report

Quoted By:

>>92699723
>>Gems send down Rubies

Rubies have been show to survive atmospheric entry and landing, entirely unaided, and be perfectly fine seconds later.

Homeworld doesn't even have to land to drop off troops. They could literally just have like, a giant fucking catapult launching handfuls of Rubies at Earth from the moon and they'd be just fine. We'd never be able to tell where they were going to land before they fused into Mega Ruby and started wrecking shit, and they're far too small to intercept or shoot down.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 02:45:12 No.92703302 Report

Quoted By:

>>92697347
>Implying we haven't already turned the moon into a deathstar

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Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 02:46:36 No.92703340 Report

Quoted By: >>92703418

>>92702738
>bullet time
Can't a 13 year old Indian with a stupid oversized sword keep up with gems?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 02:47:09 No.92703350 Report

Quoted By:

>>92703281
oh. i cannot into reading

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 02:48:14 No.92703375 Report

Quoted By: >>92703484 >>92703501

>>92703211

Sure, but in a war the logistical advanatage from poofing is huge.

Imagine if OUR soldiers could have their heads or limbs blown clean off and be back into fighting condition in a timespan that is minutes at soonest, days at worst.

All other things being equal, that's an advantage that wins wars.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 02:48:25 No.92703380 Report

Quoted By: >>92703516

>>92703252
well since Russia was apparently fucked, Asia wouldn't be recognizable since the mongols wouldn't have existed

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 02:50:03 No.92703418 Report

Quoted By: >>92704549 >>92713978

>>92703250
You don't need to hit the gem. You just need to do enough damage to poof them
From what we've seen you just need to hit them a few times with even a .22 and they're out of commission
>>92703113
I love how the fusion is so feminine because of the total and conplete lack of masculinity Steven brings to the relationship
>>92703340
Yes a tiny 13 year old Indian who weighs probably less than 100 pounds managed to match the strength of topaz fucking kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 02:50:44 No.92703434 Report

Quoted By:

>>92697347
Invasion? yes but we couldn't stop them from destroying earth.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 02:52:33 No.92703484 Report

Quoted By:

>>92703375
I find it amusing you think we would immediately fuck up those gems. Only if we had to retreat and couldn't return before they reformed or were collected would that even come into play

Assuming we didn't just wait for them to go collect or reform and bomb the shit out of them

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 02:53:22 No.92703501 Report

Quoted By: >>92703543

>>92703375
reforming in minutes is super dangerous and leads to instability and weakness, gems take days to reform into a stable state. imagine if every time our soldiers were hit, they just sit there for days on end not making a move and being at the rest of the worlds mercy. at least injured people can still do something, gems, not so much. also, if a gem is cracked or badly scratched, theyre done until a rose quarts can heal them, and since YD has all the rose quartz in one fucking room doing nothing, gems are at a big disadvantage
honestly i still wonder how theyre still alive

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 02:54:01 No.92703516 Report

Quoted By: >>92703604

>>92703380
Mongols had literally no impact on Japan so that page of history wouldn't change. Without WWII and American intervention, all of Asia would belong to the Japanese

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 02:54:58 No.92703543 Report

Quoted By: >>92703634

>>92703501
Reforming in minutes does not cause instability, reforming in seconds does.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 02:57:15 No.92703604 Report

Quoted By: >>92703780

>>92703516
the mongols had an impact on china, china had an impact on japan, japan would still be fucked. and if rome never existed like this anon said >>92702608 europe would have never found japan so theyd still be in the samurai days

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 02:57:19 No.92703607 Report

Quoted By: >>92703697 >>92703821

>>92703040

Earth in Steven Universe is obviously very different to ours.

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Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 02:57:46 No.92703615 Report

Quoted By: >>92704549 >>92704704 >>92705593

Powerlevel-wise, gems outclass humans because deathlaser bullshit.
They're EXTREMELY shit tactically, though. We'd win simply because the gems would lose a game of tic-tac-toe to a toddler.

Video unrelated

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 02:58:30 No.92703634 Report

Quoted By: >>92703720 >>92703760

>>92703543
wrong. the whole point of pearl staying in her gem for so long was to be stable. amy reformed in minutes, so she died all the time

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 03:01:13 No.92703697 Report

Quoted By:

>>92703607
except through the magic of plot holes, its not. earth in SU is almost exactly the same just everyone is insufferably nice

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 03:01:53 No.92703720 Report

Quoted By: >>92703815

>>92703634
Pearl stayed in her gem for two weeks because of her OCD. Literally every single other gem reformed within the same day if not the same hour after getting poofed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 03:03:29 No.92703760 Report

Quoted By:

>>92703634

Ruby and Sapphire reformed shortly after being poofed and taken captive. Peridot reformed immediately after being released from her bubble.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 03:04:21 No.92703780 Report

Quoted By: >>92703863 >>92704531

>>92703604
The fuck are you on about the the change to China by the Mongols did nothing to Japan. Also THE MONGOLS AREN'T FROM RUSSIA YOU MOOK

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 03:05:45 No.92703815 Report

Quoted By: >>92703871 >>92703886

>>92703720
but thats, once again, wrong. we have no fucking clue how long garnet, steven, pearl and amy were on the handship, and how long they had to reform.
even still, sitting on the ground for minutes is a huge fucking deal breaker in war, especially if you poof as easy as gems

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 03:05:52 No.92703821 Report

Quoted By:

>>92703607
Sugar actually said it's exactly the same despite the gems unexplainably preventing both world wars

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 03:07:03 No.92703848 Report

Quoted By:

>>92697347

Depends as to whether bullets can crack gems I guess.

Though that being said, modern day gems would probably wreck us considering they probably have the ability to do an orbital strike on the planet if they were serious enough.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 03:07:36 No.92703863 Report

Quoted By: >>92703940

>>92703780
>the mongols are not from russia
no fucking shit, but if russia never existed than they couldnt have conquered russia and thus never became an empire

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 03:07:53 No.92703871 Report

Quoted By: >>92703922

>>92703815
It's almost like Sugar keeps it vague so she can do whatever is convienent to the plot

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Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 03:08:26 No.92703886 Report

Quoted By: >>92703922

>>92703815
nigga they were on the ship for an hour tops. it was still the same day when they got off and connie called.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 03:09:58 No.92703921 Report

Quoted By: >>92704572

>>92701372
So they're exactly like every other group that claims to be based on "logic" or "rationality?"

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 03:09:59 No.92703922 Report

Quoted By:

>>92703886
>>92703871
even still, based on how easy gems are poofed, you could just shoot it as it attempts to reform. wash rinse and repeat until you get close enough to shatter it

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 03:10:39 No.92703940 Report

Quoted By: >>92704146

>>92703863
The Mongols barely went into Europe they not only started by invading central Asia so invading China isn't contingent on them taking Russia but thrh never evem pushed as far into that stupid crater Sugar made in the nation

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 03:10:41 No.92703942 Report

Quoted By: >>92704021

>>92703242
shrekt by a stick

A sharp piece of metal from a gem injector flying at who knows how fast completely impaled her in her weakened state.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 03:13:05 No.92703997 Report

Quoted By:

>>92702738

Amethyst fell onto a rock and cracked her gem, what makes you think large caliber bullets wouldn't at least crack a gem?

Fusions may be another story since they have weird powers, but as it is, I think most general quartz types could be killed or poofed by bullets.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 03:13:09 No.92703998 Report

Quoted By: >>92704027

>>92697431

Yeah, that's why nukes have never been deployed since WW2. Essentially, the entire military community has no idea how to actually make strategic gains through their deployment, and attempting to invade a nuclear power is a non-starter because they always have the last resort choice to nuke any sizable army.

So yes, if we got Red Dawned we'd just nuke the larger parts of the invading force and deal with a bit of fallout.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 03:13:59 No.92704021 Report

Quoted By: >>92704098

>>92703942
it wasnt even as fast as a baseball
and dont pretend gem material is anything special, based on how gem stuff breaks, its mostly rock based, i.e. brittle and not good as armor, unless in large amounts

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 03:14:21 No.92704027 Report

Quoted By: >>92704126 >>92704226

>>92703998
We have literally launched hundreds of nukes moron

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 03:16:48 No.92704098 Report

Quoted By: >>92705222

>>92704021
He's just going to fall back on Jasper being weak from the corruption. SU fans are about as logical as the fucking gems

Hence arguing fire arms wouldnt somehow be insanely effective against the gems

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 03:17:56 No.92704126 Report

Quoted By: >>92704169

>>92704027

... and?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 03:18:45 No.92704146 Report

Quoted By: >>92704238

>>92703940

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 03:19:26 No.92704169 Report

Quoted By: >>92704226 >>92704336

>>92704126
So they aren't some dooms day weapon that are actually insanely useful once mad is out of the picture

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 03:20:52 No.92704213 Report

Quoted By: >>92704291

>>92697347

Even if we could, we couldn't do dick against them if they decided to chuck some asteroids at us. It's not like they need a breathable atmosphere.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 03:21:21 No.92704226 Report

Quoted By: >>92704276 >>92704338

>>92704169
>>92704027
>testing is the same as combat
are you fucking retarded?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 03:21:47 No.92704238 Report

Quoted By: >>92704531

>>92704146
Not only does that not show them taking Russia first but they barely clip into the massive crater.
And I love how you just assume this would have prevented them from invading China

Also FUCK you for detailing this bullshit. The original point of all of this was that without WWII Japan would own the entirety of Asia

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 03:23:37 No.92704276 Report

Quoted By: >>92704336 >>92704338 >>92704344

>>92704226
God you are a fucking idiot. I'm not about to argue that Nukes aren't somehow significantly less effective in war because we haven't done it yet

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 03:24:02 No.92704290 Report

Quoted By: >>92704338

>>92698981
Those calculations assume that they're using Earth's gravity as their default. We know that gems automatically adjust their personal gravity no matter which planet they're on. They could very well have their gravity "set" to whatever it is on homeworld, which could be less than Earth.

That would also explain why they all land so softly when they fall.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 03:24:02 No.92704291 Report

Quoted By: >>92704417 >>92705263

>>92704213
but theyve never been shown to do that.
the only WMDs the gems have are the diamonds bad singing and a geode that takes 5000 years to form and required the corpses of millions of dead gems to work, and only the latter can effect humans

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 03:26:04 No.92704336 Report

Quoted By: >>92704373

>>92704169
>>92704276

>insanely useful

It's actually an incredibly difficult thing to find a legitimate strategic use for them. They changed the face of war. Classic military compositions and large troop movements became impossible against a nuclear capable nation, and they have absolutely zero utility in proxy wars. Further, you can't use them on soft targets because it kills too many people which makes them economically inviable.

I don't know why you're angrily arguing against 70 years of military thought on the subject, but I'm sure people would love it if you could suggest a way to make them viable weapons.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 03:26:07 No.92704338 Report

Quoted By: >>92704647

>>92704226
Pretty sure atomic weapons are just as effective in combat as we the they are

>>92704276
He seems to have forgotten about Hiroshima and Nagasaki
>>92704290
And this thread is officially too autistic for me

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 03:26:16 No.92704344 Report

Quoted By: >>92704394

>>92704276
we have only tested them. one of the reasons they havent been used is because they are a tactical nightmare and offer no real benefit because nukes work against the enemy and you

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 03:27:26 No.92704373 Report

Quoted By: >>92704406

>>92704336
Last try:

Nuclear weapons will be useful against an invading force of aliens

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 03:28:29 No.92704394 Report

Quoted By: >>92704476 >>92705641 >>92714767

>>92704344
Do kids not learn that we nuked the fucking Japanese in WWII?
Are these the retarded who watch SU?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 03:28:49 No.92704406 Report

Quoted By:

>>92704373

>attempting to invade a nuclear power is a non-starter because they always have the last resort choice to nuke any sizable army.
>So yes, if we got Red Dawned we'd just nuke the larger parts of the invading force and deal with a bit of fallout.
>Classic military compositions and large troop movements became impossible against a nuclear capable nation

I said that three times over, you weird, angry person.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 03:29:16 No.92704417 Report

Quoted By:

>>92704291
>the diamonds bad singing
>humans: 'we are going to invade you'
>the diamonds: REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 03:29:56 No.92704433 Report

Quoted By: >>92704549

>there are people in this very thread that honestly think we would beat the gems

jesus Christ. I know "humans, fuck yeah" is cool but like that's pure autism

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 03:30:49 No.92704459 Report

Quoted By:

>>92698937

too bad all gems are displayed as stunningly incompetent at actually utilizing their powers well. They seem way too reliant on using gems to power their equipment with magic, and not enough on actually using what they have well.

Peridots technology was pretty lackluster excluding the magic empowerment. it's maybe slightly more advanced than human tech and they've had 5000 years of development time since interstellar travel.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 03:31:25 No.92704476 Report

Quoted By:

>>92704394
no shit they worked in WW2 because the japs were a small island and didnt have nukes. go against a large nuclear state and the only result is nuclear war

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 03:33:31 No.92704531 Report

Quoted By:

>>92703780
>>92704238
>The original point of all of this was that without WWII Japan would own the entirety of Asia
Citation needed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 03:33:34 No.92704534 Report

Quoted By: >>92705197

Well stabs have been proven to poof gems such a pearl and Bismuth and I'm sure utilizing gem tech scientist can develop several new destabilizing weaponry maybe destabilizing bullets and perhaps huge destabilizing bombs for fusions and diamonds which would have no effect on humans

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 03:34:17 No.92704549 Report

Quoted By: >>92704636 >>92704716 >>92705649

>>92704433
did you read the fucking thread? gems are both dumb as shit and their tech has been proven to be a handicap rather than an advantage. see >>92702608
>>92703418
>>92703615

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 03:35:32 No.92704572 Report

Quoted By:

>>92703921
Honestly, I found it funny when Topaz went on about how Gem society was towards emotions, when we've seen that even the highest of gems are super emotional.

I'm not even sure if this hypocrisy was intended by the writers

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 03:38:35 No.92704636 Report

Quoted By: >>92704719

>>92704549
yeah okay anon. whatever you say

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 03:38:57 No.92704647 Report

Quoted By:

>>92704338
>And this thread is officially too autistic for me
They went out of their way to explain that they have gravity fuckery when they went to the moon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 03:41:26 No.92704704 Report

Quoted By:

>>92703615
_ _____ ____ ____ _______.
Didn't Peridot try to do sneaky warp pad stuff, though? That's kind of tactics.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 03:42:05 No.92704716 Report

Quoted By: >>92704772 >>92704900

>>92704549
>there are humans in this thread RIGHT NOW that think they would beat fucking magic aliens that can fuse with each other, shapeshift, regenerate, and have FTL travel with near impervious exterior

stop playing warhammer

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 03:42:09 No.92704719 Report

Quoted By: >>92704952

>>92704636
>the gems are better than everyone because they are aliens
back to your autism general
>>>/trash/

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 03:44:13 No.92704765 Report

Quoted By: >>92704830

>>92702733

I always consider steven universe to be a dimension where every individual is like 25% as competent and attentive as they are in our world.

I was always hoping that it would turn out the crystal gems were operating a brainwashing/cloaking device out of the temple/lighthouse, explaining why a doctor and 2 world travelers had no real problems with the gems, and instead just immediately shifted their attention to the next biggest issue for them at that point in time. That would be a reveal that would be actually interesting and morally grey for the crystal gems to have done to display their shady past.

Every single human is shown to be just completely oblivious of everything going on. The gems are only slightly better. If everybody in the SUU were increased in competency correspondingly to real life, gems would be a real threat to mankind, but the gems as shown in the show would never have the organization, strategy, or communication to harm earth.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 03:44:29 No.92704772 Report

Quoted By: >>92705009

>>92704716
>gems are proven to be dumb as shit, and their tech is more of a handicap than an advantage
>REEEEEEEEEE STOP MAKING ME THINK REEEEEEEEE
figures faggots you watch this show

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 03:47:17 No.92704830 Report

Quoted By: >>92704953

>>92704765
while gems may have the IQ of a downie, humans in this world act like they all have fucking lead poisoning
one of the reasons i could not get into this show fully is because every single character makes the absolute dumbest decision every time

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 03:48:31 No.92704862 Report

Quoted By:

>>92697347
We would quickly realize their weakness to sound. Than real boomboxes

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 03:50:12 No.92704900 Report

Quoted By:

>>92704716

I get the feeling humans would adapt to gem warfare a lot faster than gems would adapt to human warfare.

If they decide to attack earth, there is a good possibility that humans could poof a couple gems. Its been implied a bunch that gems can have their powers implanted into items if you jam the gem into them, like lapis and the mirror, and the concept of harvesting. If humans could harvest gems or gem shards the war would turn quickly.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 03:52:25 No.92704952 Report

Quoted By: >>92705014 >>92707708

>>92704719
>IN
>THIS
>VERY
>THREAD

I said this before but whatever. First, recon to large cities. Two, Rubies begin conflict, they fuse to keep up. They install warp pads and attack military bases. They aren't very strong but they are by far the most durabale gems we've seen so far, surviving being drooped from space, hit by spaceships etc.

They install warp pads. Quartz soldiers formally invade the cities. Surrender or die. War ensues.

Lazulis drown and submerge land masses. Injectors drastically alter the land and destruct it

FTL fleets warp jump into atmosphere. Surface is fucking razed into non existence.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 03:52:27 No.92704953 Report

Quoted By:

>>92704830

And there doesn't appear to be a strong central government at all.

Nobody did anything at all when the ocean disappeared into a giant space pillar? nobody checked in on that at all?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 03:54:49 No.92705009 Report

Quoted By: >>92705072 >>92705075 >>92718446

>>92704772
>yeah man I would totally survive the zombie apocalypse

just pathetic. no amount of fucking "logic" is going to stop red eyes and fusions. this is like saying we would beat Godzilla because you say it's not smart.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 03:54:58 No.92705014 Report

Quoted By: >>92705071

>>92704952
literally all of this has to be done over the course of thousands of years. humans can just kill anyone when they get close. stop being such a cuck and ditch the sci-fi meme

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 03:55:27 No.92705027 Report

Quoted By:

>>92699913
Pearl literally invented an EMP device and tested it out and it failed to stop one of Peridot's robonoids. They actually did an episode specifically dedicated to showing that gem-tech is resistant to EMPs.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 03:55:54 No.92705044 Report

Quoted By:

Why wouldn't the gems just prefer to have sex with humans?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 03:56:54 No.92705071 Report

Quoted By: >>92705107

>>92705014
>all of this has to be one over the course of thousands of years

anon, it happened in a few decades. the only thing that took thousands of years was the fucking gem war, in which they fought against other mountain busting superpowered gems.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 03:56:56 No.92705072 Report

Quoted By:

>>92705009
>red eye destroyed by a LIGHT cannon

lmao
m
a
o

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 03:57:00 No.92705075 Report

Quoted By: >>92705163

>>92705009
>this is like saying we would beat Godzilla because you say it's not smart.
thats exactly what fucking happened you retard. please off yourself
also
>my army can be literal autists but just because they have space ships they win
you sound like a fucking toddler

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 03:57:16 No.92705087 Report

Quoted By:

>>92700160
The problem is that shattering a gem just means you've got a bunch of disembodied arms that are going to strangle you. Gems don't die easy. It's possible that they literally can't die at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 03:57:31 No.92705093 Report

Quoted By: >>92705154

>>92701969
That was done by a gem.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 03:58:14 No.92705107 Report

Quoted By: >>92705234

>>92705071
>few decades
do you watch the show? the whole reason peridot is upset at the moon base is because rose ruined thousands of years of work. you are a retard

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 03:59:36 No.92705151 Report

Quoted By:

>>92700478
space niggers fuck off.
human death squads fucking when

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 03:59:45 No.92705154 Report

Quoted By: >>92705203

>>92705093
gems have never once been implied than humans and since they are explicitly light projections, they should lighter

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 03:59:58 No.92705163 Report

Quoted By: >>92705216

>>92705075
>when I get punched into orbit by a jasper but then i use logic to dodge it and blast her with a gun haha epic

They were smart enough or whatever to build weapons of mass destruction capable of literally destroying all of central Russia and killing like 60% of humans in a few years.

this is sad

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 04:01:18 No.92705197 Report

Quoted By:

>>92704534
Did you forget pearl was stabbed by a hologram that could effortlessly slice through a thick tree with a balloon sword? And don't even bring up Island Adventure that was pure plot induced event.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 04:01:34 No.92705203 Report

Quoted By: >>92724189

>>92705154
*been implied heavier than humans

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 04:02:04 No.92705216 Report

Quoted By: >>92705319

>>92705163
>durr my gems have no organization and go around like theyre in COD and have no incentive to follow orders, but they win because the plot says so
hello ronaldo

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 04:02:11 No.92705222 Report

Quoted By: >>92705294 >>92727692

>>92704098
Look. They're only good against the first wave of gems. Unless they're straw villains that only exist to make manly men feel tough, the gems will recalculate and switch to a largely range-based approach. At which point humanity will die because hey guess what! Bullets are even better at killing humans than they are gems!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 04:02:41 No.92705234 Report

Quoted By: >>92705298

>>92705107
son. hollowing out the fucking earth isn't necessary for what i said. the building of warp pads and laying down of injectors all happened within like the first hundred years of gem interaction with earth. in the answer it's clear that the earth was newly found but they already had set up shop

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 04:03:47 No.92705263 Report

Quoted By: >>92705297 >>92705344

>>92704291
Just because they don't want to, doesn't mean they can't. Like during Rose's Rebellion, the Crystal Gems probably thought the diamonds couldn't sing a song that would turn every gem on Earth (not covered by Rose's shield) into an insane monster, or even if they could, they wouldn't do so.

They were mistaken.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 04:03:51 No.92705266 Report

Quoted By:

just throw the EDF at them

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 04:04:38 No.92705286 Report

Quoted By:

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 04:04:56 No.92705294 Report

Quoted By:

>>92705222
>the gems will recalculate
Literally never ever.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 04:05:08 No.92705297 Report

Quoted By:

>>92705263
I think we just don't respect the Gems as a threat because the show doesn't give us a reason to. It's not a war show, so we don't see them painted as warriors, and when they do fight it's not terribly impressive.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 04:05:09 No.92705298 Report

Quoted By: >>92705368

>>92705234
once again, even that took hundreds if not thousands of years. its shown the gems were around for much longer than the rebellion. but who cares, your just going to pull shit out of your ass just like sugar to defy all logic and continue screeching. this show is shit and so are you.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 04:05:57 No.92705319 Report

Quoted By: >>92705374

>>92705216
literally where are you even getting this from? we've only seen small recon squads and a lone fucking jasper fight. it is canon that the gems have been consistently successful at the eradicating life on planets and hollowing them out. we haven't seen anything the gems have in store and even what we have seen would fuck us over 10x.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 04:06:40 No.92705339 Report

Quoted By: >>92705433

>>92697347
It would be some xcom type scenario we're the ay was already waiting for gems to make contact and they capture the gems and their technology so they can work up how to make our own space ships and gem technology
If there is one things humans do well is war

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 04:06:49 No.92705344 Report

Quoted By:

>>92705263
well if you want me to believe that the gems have more WMDs, then show it. im not going to sit here and go off the ass-pulls of autistic fanboys

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 04:08:00 No.92705368 Report

Quoted By: >>92705412

>>92705298
>REEE I CAN BEAT UP THE MEAN ALIEN LESBOS MYSELF

calm down lad ahah

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 04:08:07 No.92705374 Report

Quoted By:

>>92705319
>eradicating life on planets
literally the only time weve seen or herd of the gems interacting with organic life is on earth, hence the reason the rebellion happened on earth and not on home world

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 04:09:25 No.92705412 Report

Quoted By:

>>92705368
>well, um, uh your just stupid. ha ha i win
steven universe fans, everyone

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 04:10:24 No.92705428 Report

Quoted By: >>92705478

Why is everyone so fixated on bullets? Gem bodies are hard light projections from their gems.

Poof the body then spray the gem with a sticky, light absorbing liquid. That's as good as bubbling.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 04:10:38 No.92705433 Report

Quoted By: >>92705494 >>92705552 >>92705561

>>92705339
This hasn't really been brought up in the thread yet, and it goes back to the point made here >>92702068 . The humans on our own Earth are quite good at taking things apart and figuring out how they work. We would long ago have reverse-engineered Gem tech, so we'd be fighting on a more even playing field.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 04:11:01 No.92705441 Report

Quoted By: >>92705465

You all seem to forget Garnet got hit by multiple fucking cars being slung into her and didn't poof.

The gems have orbital ships, time travel (which BTW is at least 5000 years old tech) stuff like aquamarine's wand which may or may not be her gem weapon. Then also you have their far far faster speed.

And this is all just the tip of the iceberg.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 04:11:55 No.92705465 Report

Quoted By: >>92705486

>>92705441
once more, all of that was debunked in this thread. read nigger

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 04:12:25 No.92705478 Report

Quoted By: >>92705514 >>92705702

>>92705428
sadie poofed a gem with a sharpened stick.

there's no reason you couldn't blindly fire into a crowd of melee brandishing gems and not poof most of them

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 04:12:46 No.92705486 Report

Quoted By: >>92705519

>>92705465
Debunked by what a fucking toddler?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 04:13:07 No.92705494 Report

Quoted By:

>>92705433
if that fails there's always the fact that they're ridiculously easy to manipulate, and that's how the last invasion was stopped

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 04:13:54 No.92705514 Report

Quoted By: >>92705537 >>92705560

>>92705478
That was pure plot convenience at its finest, an outlier if there ever was one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 04:14:02 No.92705519 Report

Quoted By: >>92705551

>>92705486
everyone fucking here. go back to your shit general if you want to shitpost

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 04:15:07 No.92705537 Report

Quoted By: >>92705582

>>92705514
Hey if that's what the show gives you, that's what you work with.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 04:15:37 No.92705551 Report

Quoted By: >>92705593

>>92705519
What the fuck debunks garnet tanking cars used as projectiles? I'm not reading through all this shit, you apparently know about the debunk, fill me in.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 04:15:37 No.92705552 Report

Quoted By:

>>92705433
>humans on our own Earth are quite good at taking things apart and figuring out how they work

Dude, just like how we made microwaves and stealth fighters by reverse engineering UFOs in Area 51.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 04:15:58 No.92705560 Report

Quoted By: >>92705655

>>92705514
>REEEEEEEEEEE IT WAS JUST ONE TIME DONT USE THE EPISODES TO DETERMINE THIER STRENGTH
this thread is too autistic

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 04:15:59 No.92705561 Report

Quoted By: >>92705664

>>92705433
Stop being stupid. We still can't reverse-engineer Damascus steel and only recently figured out the formula for Roman concrete, and they were LESS advanced than us by far. Gem technology goes against our current laws of physics, but you think the human spirit can just overcome those odds?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 04:16:47 No.92705582 Report

Quoted By: >>92705608

>>92705537
No you go with consistency.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 04:17:19 No.92705593 Report

Quoted By: >>92705649 >>92705779

>>92705551
see
>>92702608
>>92703615
>>92703242
begone, cuck

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 04:17:49 No.92705608 Report

Quoted By: >>92705679

>>92705582
Steven Universe doesn't have consistency and you know it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 04:19:19 No.92705641 Report

Quoted By:

>>92704394
>argument is about why they haven't been used since ww2
>god do these retards not know that we used them in ww2?
Good job, anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 04:19:39 No.92705649 Report

Quoted By: >>92705697

>>92704549
>>92705593
...Someone saying that because the Hand-ship blew up after the central generator was destroyed, which is the most common sci-fi spaceship trope, that means that a completely ordinary catapult can destroy it?

Are you utterly retarded? I have no idea how you could make such a stupid leap in logic and yet haven't died from choking on your own tongue.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 04:19:45 No.92705655 Report

Quoted By: >>92705720 >>92705752

>>92705560
I bet your one of those who think that since hulk once got severely hurt by regular gorillas that means he sucks.
Huh? Oh hey since Thor once got knocked unconscious by a gunshot that makes him weak as fuck.

Yeah it's called outlier retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 04:20:09 No.92705664 Report

Quoted By:

>>92705561
Actually we figured out how damascus steel works.

And we didn't need to figure out Roman concrete because we just invented something new that works every bit as well.

It's not spirit, it's cleverness. We're extremely clever.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 04:20:48 No.92705679 Report

Quoted By:

>>92705608
Thats art consistency, a complete different topic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 04:21:40 No.92705697 Report

Quoted By: >>92705811

>>92705649
okay now i know your not reading the thread. he said nothing about a generator, just that the ship itself is weak

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 04:21:43 No.92705702 Report

Quoted By: >>92705783

>>92705478
Sadie poofed a corrupted gem. And a stealth specialist corrupted gem at that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 04:22:08 No.92705720 Report

Quoted By: >>92705771 >>92705783 >>92709054

>>92705655
Doesn't an Indian child with a month of training go toe to toe with these gems?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 04:23:21 No.92705752 Report

Quoted By:

>>92705655
but it wasnt an outlier, it happened again with jasper. weve gone through this.
back to your autisim general >>>/trash/sug

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 04:23:40 No.92705758 Report

Quoted By:

>>92698873
That is their true self, so probably needs to be exposed for sensory reasons.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 04:24:04 No.92705771 Report

Quoted By: >>92709054

>>92705720
a female child at that

most dangerous humans in SU
>Obese 4ft female teenager
>13 year old little girl

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 04:24:28 No.92705779 Report

Quoted By: >>92705829

>>92705593
>samefagging this hard

you don't need muh epic European tactics to blow shit up idiot. you're seriously trying to argue that a catapult can destroy the hand ships with no real evidence at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 04:24:44 No.92705783 Report

Quoted By: >>92709054

>>92705702
>she only killed a hulking invisible monster, weak!
also connie makes your argument irrelevant >>92705720

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 04:26:03 No.92705811 Report

Quoted By: >>92705867

>>92705697
Except there's literal zero fucking reason to think that you drooling shithead.

There isn't even a fucking scrap of evidence that gem ships are hyper-vulnerable to physical force, hell, that doesn't even make any sense you embarassment, since space is filled with small rocks that can really damage our primitive space-ships.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 04:27:00 No.92705829 Report

Quoted By:

>>92705779
>REEEEE YOUR NOT USING EVIDENCE WITH A FICTIONAL SHOW
theres no point in arguing with faggots like you, your just going to pull shit out of your ass because mommy sugar said so

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 04:28:30 No.92705867 Report

Quoted By: >>92705936 >>92706008

>>92705811
gem space ships are made of gem-like material. gems are brittle when they are large. please cese your autism

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 04:29:07 No.92705879 Report

Quoted By: >>92705956 >>92715386

So How many soldiers do you think Homeworld can field at this point? Earth has millions of professional soldiers employed, with tens of millions having fought as mercenaries/militias or trained as reserves. Over 500 million people own guns. Numbers seem to favor humankind heavily.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 04:31:06 No.92705936 Report

Quoted By: >>92706005 >>92706008

>>92705867
Except we fucking see the remnants of it after it explodes, and it's not broken like how a crystalline structure breaks at all. You and all the HFY chucklefucks in this show are a fucking joke.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 04:31:38 No.92705956 Report

Quoted By:

>>92705879
one of their biggest flaws. compared to gems humans practically shit offspring. while gems need big machines and entire planets

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 04:32:49 No.92705984 Report

Quoted By:

>>92700382
This

Other than corrupt gems, most other gems have had to get hit by pretty sufficient force to get poofed

Peridot got squeezed by Garnet's gauntlets, which increase her already massive strength.

Amethyst got poofed by Jasper, also super strong, with Jasper's weapon point blank. Even though a gem monster also got Amethyst, one could argue that either the monster was strong or Amethyst is weak (compared to Jasper and possibly the other Quartzes).

Pearl got poofed by a hologram of hers that was wielding a sword, but her holograms have at least half her strength which is still pretty impressive (she kicked a large boulder aside with ease, and she's not even made for combat)

Jasper got smacked around with Amy's whip and beat up with Smokey's yoyo pretty hard, but was fine for the most part until she was corrupted.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 04:33:27 No.92705998 Report

Quoted By:

Half of our population are walking anti-gem weapons.

We have nothing to fear.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 04:33:40 No.92706005 Report

Quoted By:

>>92705936
>and it's not broken like how a crystalline structure breaks at all.
are you fucking blind? it looked exactly like if you smashed a rock

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 04:33:46 No.92706008 Report

Quoted By: >>92706118

>>92705936
>>92705867
And fucking regardless, are you really dumb enough to believe that gems have no preparation against asteroids? Despite being a space-faring race?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 04:35:12 No.92706038 Report

Quoted By: >>92706118

Here's what happens. They send out shit Ruby ibfatry, they get shot and pooped and shattered, they realize oh shit their weapons can poof us at a range.

Then they kill all of us with orbital FTL space ships.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 04:36:38 No.92706075 Report

Quoted By:

>>92701066
Judging by what Lapis said about how Homeworld changed, they likely didn't have the technology back then. Peridot's tech seemed pretty new to them, as did Aqua's wand and the hand ship.

As for why they didn't destroy Earth when they got the technology, they assumed it was still crawling with the Corrupted remains of Rose's army and was incubating a geo-weapon they probably could use to kill another planet once it forms.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 04:38:39 No.92706118 Report

Quoted By: >>92706141 >>92706213 >>92706247

>>92706008
if theyre going faster than light then why would they? nothing would touch them until they slow down
>>92706038
>space ships instantly means death
you are dumb.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 04:39:35 No.92706141 Report

Quoted By: >>92706246

>>92706118
Alright then fuck stain explain what the shit we do against them

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 04:41:44 No.92706195 Report

Quoted By:

>>92697347
Doubt they'd even be interested.

Given how many wars SU's Earth have skipped a few wars according to some, and the fact in SU's case they arrived back when the Earth was young and prosperous. The whole reason they are on Earth is to take its resources, but without going preachy here, with all what we have done to the enviroments would it even be of sue to them?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 04:42:20 No.92706213 Report

Quoted By: >>92706276

>>92706118
>reroute an asteroid towards Earth
>game over

Gravity is entirely on the side of the gems.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 04:42:55 No.92706229 Report

Quoted By:

>>92702738
Garnet is probably stronger than, if not as strong as Topaz. The only reason she didn't fight her was the hostages Topaz had.

It's been shown before that fusions of the same type aren't as strong as fusions of different types.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 04:43:24 No.92706246 Report

Quoted By: >>92706354 >>92706548

>>92706141
weve had missiles that can destroy space objects since the 80s
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASM-135_ASAT
plus the only weapon weve seen on the gem ship is the beam thing, and that didnt do shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 04:43:31 No.92706247 Report

Quoted By: >>92706325

>>92706118
They didn't always have FTL technology. Or at least, their warp capabilities weren't always as advanced as they are now.

Like honestly, you realize you're implying that in The Return, Garnet should have just fucking leaped onto the ship and started punching it right?

That's idiotic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 04:44:15 No.92706264 Report

Quoted By: >>92706458 >>92710005

God I can't wait until this show is fucking cancelled

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 04:44:35 No.92706276 Report

Quoted By: >>92706525 >>92706541

>>92706213
good luck finding an asteroid that wont burn up in atmosphere

Sneaky Pete !!sOCEVrMHawr

Sneaky Pete !!sOCEVrMHawr Fri 26 May 2017 04:45:39 No.92706297 Report

Quoted By: >>92708256

>>92697347

Gems are comprised of lesbian aliens.

Earth is already dominated by the LGBT community and SJWs.

What chance do we have against gems?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 04:46:38 No.92706325 Report

Quoted By: >>92706703

>>92706247
weve yet to see gems ships go up against anything other than light based weapons. im not just going to believe anything just because its sci-fi

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 04:47:41 No.92706353 Report

Quoted By:

>two autists are arguing using no evidence and no basis yet the discussion keeps going
just let the thread fucking die

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 04:47:43 No.92706354 Report

Quoted By: >>92706443

>>92706246
Yes cause blowing up a shitty asteroid is totally he same as a vastly more advanced tech from an alien warship

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 04:51:48 No.92706443 Report

Quoted By: >>92706549

>>92706354
the only thing weve seen that the gem ships are impervious against are light based. once again, show me that they can withstand it, dont just asspull shit

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 04:52:39 No.92706458 Report

Quoted By:

>>92706264
Keep waiting, baby. We love you even though you're a faggot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 04:56:29 No.92706525 Report

Quoted By: >>92706548

>>92706276
There are several of them in the Asteroid Belt.
Close enough that the gems (or any spacefarimg species) could easily calculate how to successfully reroute one for an Earth collision, but far enough away that humans wouldn't even know what was happening until the missile was on its way.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 04:57:25 No.92706541 Report

Quoted By:

>>92706276
don't they have some form of FTL
couldn't they just hit earth with a tungsten pole moving at relativistic speed and blow it apart?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 04:57:56 No.92706548 Report

Quoted By: >>92706711 >>92706770

>>92706525
also far enough away so that said missile from>>92706246
could knock it off course

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 04:57:56 No.92706549 Report

Quoted By: >>92706623 >>92706665

>>92706443
What kind of retarded logic is that?

That light in those attacks had mass in it you dolt.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 04:59:59 No.92706588 Report

Quoted By:

The simple fact is even 5000 years ago gems were far more advanced than current day humanity.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 05:02:09 No.92706623 Report

Quoted By: >>92706665 >>92706678

>>92706549
its still made of light. plus gem light weapons are different from real mass

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 05:04:32 No.92706665 Report

Quoted By: >>92706691 >>92706700

>>92706623
>>92706549
both of you need to shut the fuck up and let the thread die

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 05:04:58 No.92706678 Report

Quoted By:

>>92706623
...I'm done, talking to brick wall would yield better results.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 05:05:33 No.92706691 Report

Quoted By:

>>92706665
ayy fuck you faggot

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 05:06:00 No.92706700 Report

Quoted By:

>>92706665
No?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 05:06:08 No.92706703 Report

Quoted By: >>92706757

>>92706325
Not any of those anons you're arguing with, but holy fuck you're deluded as dicks. There is no evidence for gem ships being vulnerable to physical force. In fact I just watched the clip where the hand ship crashed, and the only thing that happened to it when it smashed into the side of a cliff at high velocity was the thumb segment falling off cleanly, probably because of the joint being weakened. Then the generator exploded.

Not to mention the clear train of logic you would have to follow for a space faring race. Space is full of debris going hundreds of miles per hour, you think they don't have a way to handle that? That they spend the majority of their time in warp or whatever and when they aren't they just decide to risk their ships full of resources and even leaders just being shattered?

God I fucking hate HFY faggots. I'm glad /tg/ exiled all of theirs to reddit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 05:06:18 No.92706711 Report

Quoted By: >>92706777

>>92706548
>a shitty, cancelled anti-satellite weapons program

No.
That's not even what that missile was designed for.

At least if you'd made an Armageddon reference we could all have had a good laugh.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 05:08:20 No.92706757 Report

Quoted By: >>92706820

>>92706703
> There is no evidence for gem ships being vulnerable to physical force
you know, except the part when you mentioned the thumb coming off cleanly

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 05:08:53 No.92706770 Report

Quoted By: >>92706798

>>92706548
That works both ways. Gems could just use their light weapons to destroy the missiles before they get close to the meteor.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 05:09:21 No.92706777 Report

Quoted By:

>>92706711
there are other missile that can go into space, ICBMs for example

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 05:10:23 No.92706798 Report

Quoted By: >>92706925

>>92706770
its almost as if the vagueness of the show makes any argument from both sides impossible to make a clear winner

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 05:11:44 No.92706820 Report

Quoted By: >>92706843

>>92706757
Sorry, let me rephrase that, I meant ESPECIALLY vulnerable, which you know is what I meant. And honestly just a small part falling cleanly off at such an uncontrolled, high velocity impact? That speaks to gem ships being pretty sturdy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 05:12:47 No.92706843 Report

Quoted By: >>92706889

>>92706820
>let me do damage control because i fucked up

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 05:14:24 No.92706877 Report

Quoted By:

christ i hate this fucking board

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 05:15:00 No.92706889 Report

Quoted By: >>92706911

>>92706843
More like I'm clarifying because of your inability to read context. But you're just trying to dance around the fact that I shot down your shitty "gem ships are super fragile" argument.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 05:16:04 No.92706911 Report

Quoted By: >>92706968

>>92706889
>now allow me to completely redo my argument.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 05:17:21 No.92706925 Report

Quoted By: >>92706998

>>92706798
>shifting goalposts
At least you're abandoning the idiotic idea that gems would be beaten by ancient weapons and tactics.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 05:19:51 No.92706968 Report

Quoted By: >>92707026

>>92706911
Not really. And you still aren't addressing that argument. Probably because you can't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 05:21:10 No.92706998 Report

Quoted By: >>92707252

>>92706925
>and now allow me to twist other peoples words to make them mean something entirely different

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 05:22:36 No.92707026 Report

Quoted By: >>92707232

>>92706968
but the remains looked like they were shattered, not blown up. you know, like something would be if you dropped it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 05:25:46 No.92707096 Report

Quoted By:

Now, I'm seeing quite a bit of discussion about nukes, and it seems like all of you think that the only way to use nukes is to put one on the tip of a missile and throw it at an invader.
This is wrong.
There are multiple ways to use a nuclear weapon against an orbital foe, and while just lobbing them at the enemy might work, there are better uses for their power.
For example, you could make an Orion-style space battleship, with weaponized Casaba howitzers, or you could make a simple relativistic kill vehicle like the ruskies theorized in the sixties, using a big old concrete tube, a two ton copper disk, some water, and a tsar bomba sized nuke.
These were all possible in the sixties, and who knows what we have nowadays. I wouldn't say that humanity would win, but I'd say we'd have a fighting chance.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 05:26:51 No.92707118 Report

Quoted By: >>92707287

>>92698146
Maybe, maybe not. The Aztecs at their height had cities bigger and cleaner than Europe with complex canal networks and a sophisticated understanding of astronomy. Yet their way of life involved the capture of prisoners in warfare for ritualized human sacrifice, so their weaponry was severely outclassed by the conquistadors. Likewise, the Mongols overran nearly all the more advanced sedentary empires around them because they were willing to be adaptive and fought with a completely mobile army. In other words, you can really only fight what you know. Besides Rose's rebellion, have there ever been any other gem vs. gem conflicts? Would Homeworld even know how to fight organics that had achieved a level of sophistication to have rudimentary spaceflight?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 05:34:06 No.92707232 Report

Quoted By: >>92707282

>>92707026
Even if that's true (you have very low credibility and I couldn't find any good images on a cursory search) it doesn't mean that the gem ships are especially vulnerable to physical force, just that that's how the material breaks. Why didn't the gem ship shatter on impact if that was the case? It was destroyed by it's exploding generator.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 05:35:09 No.92707252 Report

Quoted By:

>>92706998
I don't even think you realize how ironic this post is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 05:36:45 No.92707282 Report

Quoted By: >>92707505

>>92707232
it exploded when it dropped you fucking mong
also shatter=brittle

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 05:37:08 No.92707287 Report

Quoted By: >>92707376 >>92728320

>>92707118
>Would Homeworld even know how to fight organics that had achieved a level of sophistication to have rudimentary spaceflight?
Probably. They have been conquering planets for thousands of years, haven't they?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 05:41:38 No.92707376 Report

Quoted By: >>92707531

>>92707287
as one anon pointed out earlier its possible the humans were the first other form of life the gems found (space is really fucking big) hence, why rose made such a big thing about it

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 05:47:53 No.92707505 Report

Quoted By: >>92707593

>>92707282
>it exploded when it dropped you fucking mong
It exploded because the generator was damaged in Jasper and Garnet's fight. Things don't explode when they hit the ground. The gem ship suffered no damage aside from a small piece falling off when it crashed into the planet all the way from OUTER SPACE. It was also completely undamaged by reentry into an atmosphere, which burns up asteroids into nothingness.

>also shatter=brittle
Not always true, even for Earth substances. Gem ships are made of extraterrestrial material and don't have to follow any trends of terrestrial materials.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 05:49:22 No.92707531 Report

Quoted By: >>92707610 >>92707612 >>92728320

>>92707376
Then why would they have weapons and armies? Did they war among themselves before Rose's rebellion?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 05:52:38 No.92707593 Report

Quoted By: >>92707705

>>92707505
>if its from outer space it can do what ever it wants
also that small piece was an entire section

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 05:53:40 No.92707610 Report

Quoted By:

>>92707531
i guess, i dunno i guess its a possibility

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 05:53:44 No.92707612 Report

Quoted By:

>>92707531
many have suggested that they didn't or the existing military was such a token force it quickly got out classed and had to adapt and change because of the rebellion

This view sits very well with what we see in the Answer, where there seems to be little military personnel just 3 Rubies and a couple of Quartz soldiers but they all easily lose to a Pearl with swords and Rose, on top of the fact that in the Answer it appears that no one knows how to summon a gem weapon yet, Pearl is the only one even using weapons and she is just using real physical swords

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 05:59:57 No.92707705 Report

Quoted By: >>92707772

>>92707593
>cherry picking two parts of the post so you can ignore the rest
Very transparent of you, anon. Also the thumb was a small piece, relatively. And why do you think that extraterrestrial material, from beyond this galaxy even, would have to be brittle just because it supposedly shatters when it breaks? Especially because that's not even wholly true for shit here on Earth.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 06:00:12 No.92707708 Report

Quoted By: >>92707819

>>92704952
wheres russia the fuck?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 06:04:23 No.92707772 Report

Quoted By:

>>92707705
im to tired to fucking blog post. besides, this whole argument is stupid, for one, gem ships dont have weapons that can destroy targets from orbit en masse, two you can have the biggest, scariest ships but if you are as retarded as the gems are youd still find a way to fuck it up. but thats irrelevant because humans are just as retarded in SU

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 06:07:08 No.92707819 Report

Quoted By:

>>92707708
almost entirely still there, really its just part of Siberia down into Mongolia that seems to be missing

Not Russia proper at all

If your asking why or how, we really don't know, we assume it happened during the Gem War

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 06:11:27 No.92707884 Report

Quoted By:

>>92697347
theyd just send a bunch of lapises to move our oceans into orbit and then wait a couple months for everyone to die

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 06:17:55 No.92708001 Report

Quoted By: >>92708199 >>92708353

>>92697347
>implying we wouldn't create a plague to kill their entire species off

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 06:28:03 No.92708199 Report

Quoted By:

>>92708001
well they aren't biological, technically speakings gems don't even fall into traditional definitions of life

So I'm pretty sure biological warfare wouldn't work

Also the aliens are vulnerable to Earthly disease is one of the dumbest tropes in sci-fi, like people think they are being clever since they are looking at historical examples of population exposed to new diseases but those are just bad analogies. Aliens would have a completely alien biology to our own, it took hundreds of years for diseases to jump from cows or sheep into humans and we are pretty similar, it would probably take a long time before the bacteria and viruses could manage to adapt to a completely alien biology

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 06:31:08 No.92708256 Report

Quoted By:

>>92706297
>implying that we couldn't eliminate all these "people" with ease if we really wanted

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 06:37:36 No.92708353 Report

Quoted By:

>>92708001
Gems are literally just their gems. Their bodies are fabrications.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 06:52:50 No.92708562 Report

Quoted By:

>>92697347
nigga the state of kentucky could take down homeworld tf wrong with you

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 06:59:37 No.92708655 Report

Quoted By:

>>92697347
We are incapable of effectively fighting a civilization with access to orbital bombardment.
The gems are terraforming Earth anyway, so why would they care if the planet is made uninhabitable for organic life?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 07:27:32 No.92709054 Report

Quoted By:

>>92705720
>>92705771
>>92705783
Connie is human but has a OP sword designed to easily poof gems.

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Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 08:50:44 No.92709991 Report

Quoted By: >>92720027

>>92697347

Yeah, by stop being faggots.

>>92697950

It was rumored Nikola Tesla had a doomsday device that Ford or GE bought out from him along with a whole slew of his other inventions.

I'd imagine he or we would create something like his invention, or in the video below this with ground to space lighting towers, just watch it a little.

>https://youtu.be/zGy6SEEXcJA?t=142

Though, if Earth is some kinda of hippy, SJW, progressive fever dream of Rebeca Sugar as I suspect it is, we'd be fucked anyways, the least any nation would do is open their arms in "friendship" and start dressing in drag and dancing all around like savages waiting for a response, only to be vaporized on sight.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 08:52:56 No.92710005 Report

Quoted By:

>>92706264

This.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 09:26:46 No.92710265 Report

Quoted By:

>>92702087
there are other holes

seriously, there's this one anime where the dude goes
"I haven't tried THIS hole before..."

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 09:51:42 No.92710440 Report

Quoted By:

>>92697347
Humans can't even wipe out humans, and we've got about ten billion weaknesses.

Once you take that away we're a weak-ass bunch of apes who're prone to physical and psychological failure.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 10:37:57 No.92710776 Report

Quoted By:

>>92697347
>Arm ships just throw dinosaur killers at earth until life ends
>Gems don't mind because they don't need to breathe

Yeah nah, even if we win conventionally owing space and not needing to preserve anything means we always lose.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 10:41:44 No.92710805 Report

Quoted By:

>>92699484
Nukes don't create an EMP in space you mong.

Nukes lose power very fast in a vacuum, they can't even kill really hard SF ships (IE super fragile ones) from more than a few hundred meters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 10:53:36 No.92710901 Report

Quoted By:

>>92699238

No, she's not. She's maybe 4'8".

>>92699406

I strongly suspect that that's how they started out.

>>92699505

Survival trait.

>>92699723

Jesus. Reminds me of Ultimate Galactus.
Maybe that's just how they always do it if there is resistance.

>>92699981
>>fast "reproduction" cycles

Regeneration maybe. But not reproduction.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 10:59:38 No.92710944 Report

Quoted By:

>>92700235

Fall acceleration puts paid to the notion that gems have little weight.

>>92700331

It might well vary per gem.

https://www.gemselect.com/gem-info/gem-hardness-info.php

>>92700381

Depends on whether you consider Sadie 'Normal'.

Frankly, Beach City seems like Royston Vasey sometimes.

You have to wonder whether thousands of years of gem presence and gem monster attacks might have an effect on the people who live there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 11:03:56 No.92710984 Report

Quoted By:

>>92700484

Every chance. Had Steven not been there, Earth would be a rapidly expanding cloud of space debris now.

>>92700622

Makes sense if you actually don't WANT to destroy a planet.

>>92700693

.....Aaaaactually anon is correct: Lapis SAID she got cracked by someone stepping on her.

And the only person she told that is Steven. Hmmmm.
"B-but she got cracked when someone stepped on her!"
"What? Steven, that is not possible. Even a Diamond isn't THAT heavy!"

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 13:37:12 No.92712313 Report

Quoted By:

>>92699988
Put shrapnel in a rocket with explosives.
No air to slow down shrapnel, meaning it will be very effective in a certain range.
Have basically a huge pipe bomb that fucks up everything in an area dependend on force of the bomb and amount of shrapnel.
Can make shrapnel directed making it deadlier for a longer range, but narrower range.
Planet is protected by shrapnel burning up in atmosphere.
Planet is very hard to reach because of Kessler syndrome. Isolation might be preferable to being conquered.
Took ten seconds to think off.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 13:52:09 No.92712499 Report

Quoted By:

Gem society seems like such a mess that I don't think it would be able to handle a war.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 14:07:21 No.92712700 Report

Quoted By: >>92712739

can gems survive this beauty? any being would be fucked up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 14:10:34 No.92712739 Report

Quoted By:

>>92712700
> It's called the "Metal Storm".

Is this love that I'm feeling?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 14:15:18 No.92712786 Report

Quoted By:

>>92698981
Thanks, ScrewAttack.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 14:20:34 No.92712844 Report

Quoted By: >>92712874 >>92713361

Just tell homeworld gems how pretty earth is and give them a speech about love and tolerance or some shit and watch half of homeworlds army defect to earth.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 14:23:04 No.92712874 Report

Quoted By: >>92712897

>>92712844
I hate how this actually probably the most accurate answer in the thread.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 14:24:42 No.92712897 Report

Quoted By: >>92712936

>>92712874
Propaganda is a powerful tool in war, my friend.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 14:25:59 No.92712911 Report

Quoted By:

>>92702359
>it's a huge plot hole as to why they didn't do that to Rose in the first place

They did, twice. Once with the geode weapon; which Rose stopped, and once with the corruption weapon; which Rose was only able to shield her closest allies from.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 14:27:25 No.92712936 Report

Quoted By: >>92728278

>>92712897
Yeah, but the gems would probably have a 99% defect rate

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 14:31:07 No.92712977 Report

Quoted By: >>92713143 >>92713463

> Upload virus.
> Hack all sound systems.
> Play corruption song.
> Crashing a fighter jet into the mothership is optional

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 14:43:49 No.92713143 Report

Quoted By:

>>92712977
Better plan.
We make the corruption song Earth's global anthem.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 15:01:42 No.92713342 Report

Quoted By: >>92718682

>>92700514
>We'd have to nuke them in space
So this....is the power of american education...wow.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 15:02:53 No.92713361 Report

Quoted By:

>>92712844

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 15:11:26 No.92713463 Report

Quoted By:

>>92712977
>hack the alien mothership with my Mac

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 15:37:58 No.92713825 Report

Quoted By:

>>92700622
They poofed unstable gem monsters. essentially boxing a crackhead. Human's taking on sane gems successfully has yet to be shown.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 15:48:18 No.92713978 Report

Quoted By:

>>92703418
>Yes a tiny 13 year old Indian who weighs probably less than 100 pounds managed to match the strength of topaz fucking kek
using gem weapons, fighting a big softy. and she still had to retreat

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Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 15:56:06 No.92714098 Report

Quoted By: >>92714171

It's a shame Gems aren't bound by organic problems... Or else pic related happens.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 16:00:26 No.92714171 Report

Quoted By: >>92714221 >>92714458

>>92714098
What if we setup a massive battlefield loaded to the gunwale with booby-trapped Straw-men?
>Gems attempt to kidnap humans believing humans can't fight back
>One straw-man is uprooted out of the ground
>Entire field lights up
Would it work?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 16:03:40 No.92714221 Report

Quoted By: >>92714261

>>92714171
Could you imagine the headlines?
>ENTIRE GEM ARMY SUBDUED BY SCARECROWS. NO KNOWN HUMAN CASUALTIES.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 16:05:26 No.92714261 Report

Quoted By:

>>92714221
>SUCH IS LIFE IN EARTH

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 16:09:26 No.92714340 Report

Quoted By: >>92714389 >>92714437 >>92719245

>>92701791
One of the creators said that

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 16:12:04 No.92714389 Report

Quoted By:

>>92714340
>>92701791
Do they have any comprehension of how different the world would be if WW2 never happened?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 16:12:07 No.92714391 Report

Quoted By:

ooooohhh shit
that anon was right
white diamond is a fusion
her planets are just all of the other planets

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 16:12:57 No.92714404 Report

Quoted By:

>>92700544
>mined and terraformed earth
>spent in resources
Okay, no. There is still a TON of metals and minerals in the earth, and judging from how gem formation is described, they don't even really draw from that, but from the biomaterial around them. Watch the gem school episode where they explain the process, and even the kindergartens are all rocks and sand without biomaterial left. It would seem to me that killing humans and life in general seems to be the best way to add fertilizer to their kindergartens. Otherwise, why not just seed the asteroid belt and mars?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 16:14:55 No.92714437 Report

Quoted By:

>>92714340
Yeah, the Todd Howard of the Crewniverse.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 16:16:07 No.92714458 Report

Quoted By:

>>92714171
Not really.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 16:32:48 No.92714767 Report

Quoted By:

>>92704394
WWII is what taught us not to use nukes again.The devastation, political cost, and lost of resources is too fucking awful to make it worth anything more than a land deterttorant (with the ability to strike the enemy of course). Why do you think we resisted using it in Vietnam for so long even with Patton crying for it?

But lets assume nukes the somebody nukes the gems. Why would they keep their troops in large nukeable formations after losing 1-10 squads? It wouldn't make sense.

Unlike video games, in the real world nukes work best against stationary objects or large immobile centers like cities, bases, etc. Its a crap shoot to actually hit a missile on a calculated trajectory let alone objects that can zig zag in the skyline.

I don't see how humans win without major stupidity on the gems part. Yea you can bring up the first gem war, but its pretty clear that up till the shattering, it was never the intent of HW to flat out destroy all gems.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 17:02:20 No.92715386 Report

Quoted By:

>>92705879
Homeworld has unity. Humans don't. That is a fuck huge advantage.

Only the western powers are really trained to fight together and share systems and even then they hold back tools/data from each other. Coordinating with Russia/China and the rest would be a nightmare. All it takes is someone's plane crashing into another, transmission garble, or a land grab attempt and we're fighting each other.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 17:30:03 No.92715994 Report

Quoted By: >>92716069 >>92717760

>>92697347
people are missing the wider implications, gems are fairly bigoted, at best viewing biological life as a novel curiosity or to be protected or at worst another thing to be destroyed in the name of the gem empire, if a biological species could fight a somewhat effective resistance to the gems it would shatter (kek) any notion of superiority. Essentially there entire worldview and ideology could be called into question. How can the diamonds be credible leaders when they squander troops fighting inferior life forms that should easy to overrun? What if humans develop an emp like device to disrupt gems forms on a mass scale? We know the super weapon that ended the war has no effect on biological life if humans got there hands on a weapon like or commandeer or reverse engineer a ship they could in theory dominate any military engagement

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 17:33:26 No.92716069 Report

Quoted By: >>92716618

>>92715994
So, you're wondering if humanity can develop a type of destabiliser that fires in an arc?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 17:41:50 No.92716277 Report

Quoted By:

>>92697950
>steven universe plot.webm

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 17:44:32 No.92716337 Report

Quoted By:

>>92697347
Just send muslims to rape them and steal powers for Allah

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 17:55:17 No.92716564 Report

Quoted By:

>>92698981
where the fuck did they get that number lmfao

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 17:55:44 No.92716568 Report

Quoted By:

>>92697347
Guns would be enough to take out gems and we could reverse engineer their spacecraft to fend off orbital bombardment.

Gems are stupid anyway, sending two gems at a time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 17:57:36 No.92716607 Report

Quoted By:

>>92700160
We're not discussing plot, we're discussing how the humanity would handle an invasion.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 17:58:16 No.92716618 Report

Quoted By: >>92716740 >>92716755 >>92716990

>>92716069
that and gems seem to have no ranged weaponry beyond AA batteries and ship based weapons.

As the french learned at Crecy and Agincourt, you can be armed to the teeth with the finest weaponry, armor, honor and moral but even all that makes no difference if you cant get in the range to use them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 18:04:02 No.92716740 Report

Quoted By: >>92717015

>>92716618
Yes they do.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 18:04:45 No.92716755 Report

Quoted By: >>92716851 >>92716990

>>92716618
Someone have to be ridiculously sneaky and absurdly ballsy to hijack one of their ships, however.
If someone managed to fake surrendering and came aboard willingly, they could manage to find the destabilisers, attack most of the crew on board, and hold the pilot hostage and lead the ship and it's crew to some government place for interrogation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 18:09:39 No.92716851 Report

Quoted By:

>>92716755
*has to

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 18:15:58 No.92716990 Report

Quoted By: >>92717015

>>92716755
rubies are complete fucking idiots, its not unimaginable a human could outwit them and steal a craft

>>92716618
Really? Ive never seen one, they seem obsessed with with cqc to the point bismuth's wunderwaffe was a arm mounted piston.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 18:17:01 No.92717015 Report

Quoted By: >>92717102

>>92716990
meant for
>>92716740

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 18:20:31 No.92717102 Report

Quoted By: >>92717352

>>92717015
Some gem summoned weapons can shoot projectiles.
Peridot's limb enhancers can shoot laser blasts.
Plus they can build mechs that can shoot lasers too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 18:26:42 No.92717235 Report

Quoted By:

>Character x and character y can take out a gem

Why people are stupid like this? Yeah, character x did that, but he could have done the same thing with a human and it would have being WAY easier than doing that to a gem.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 18:29:05 No.92717284 Report

Quoted By:

>>92697347
>implying you need nukes
just get an army of manspreaders and they'll be triggered off the planet

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 18:32:40 No.92717352 Report

Quoted By: >>92717455

>>92717102
fair point but the bulk of there armed forces thus far seen seem to heavily favor melee, which going off the fact there rocks with holographic bodies makes sense, and could be an exploitable weakness

fight in a guerrilla fashion avoiding getting into close combat whist aiming for there gems

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 18:35:35 No.92717422 Report

Quoted By:

>>92697347

Depends how serious the gems are about it.

We might win a ground war, but it would still be a total shitshow.

We cant win a space war, because unless they are right on top of us our only weapon is harsh language.

And their tech level beats ours hands down. Modern gem ships appear to artifically create black holes for FTL. They can just delete our planet with a single bomb.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 18:37:19 No.92717455 Report

Quoted By:

>>92717352
> avoid getting into close combat with an enemy that has a vertical leap of hundreds of meters and can outrace a car on foot

How, exactly?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 18:38:09 No.92717479 Report

Quoted By: >>92717571

>>92703250
Pearl got impaled with a sword and that was enough to poof her. I'm pretty sure that if you hit a gem anywhere it would just poof as well. Then you get to smashing the gem.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 18:42:24 No.92717571 Report

Quoted By: >>92717597 >>92717844

>>92717479

Yeah, a sword weilded by an enemy that can cut a tree in half in one slice without effort.

We have guns that can do the same, but we are talking vehicle mounted shit. And if we need tanks to hurt their basic footsoldiers, we WILL lose the war.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 18:43:34 No.92717597 Report

Quoted By:

>>92717571
>that can cut a tree in half in one slice without effort
With a balloon sword no less.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 18:50:19 No.92717760 Report

Quoted By: >>92717844

>>92715994

their worldview was already disproved once when one of their demi gods was killed by a common soldier, it didn't make them any less xenophobic

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 18:54:08 No.92717844 Report

Quoted By: >>92717935 >>92717992

>>92717760
by a member of there race, imagine if it was someting they saw as an insect that was putting up an effective fight whist there resources are dwindling.

>>92717571
A sword is not equal to a bullet there's a reason for the proverb never bring a sword to a gunfight

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 18:58:03 No.92717935 Report

Quoted By: >>92718092

>>92717844
In this case, the sword is superior.
We would have to surprise them, somehow.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 19:00:14 No.92717992 Report

Quoted By:

>>92717844
They would just stop pulling punches most likely.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 19:04:34 No.92718092 Report

Quoted By: >>92718165 >>92718179

>>92717935
the sword means jack shit if a well hidden sniper hits the gem

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 19:07:37 No.92718165 Report

Quoted By:

>>92718092
If they hit the gem.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 19:08:10 No.92718179 Report

Quoted By: >>92718214

>>92718092
The sniper is pretty useless if 'the gem is in a hard to shoot place. The sniper's bullet won't break the hologram.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 19:09:19 No.92718214 Report

Quoted By: >>92718314 >>92718811

>>92718179
>The sniper's bullet won't break the hologram.

>but a sword will

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 19:13:27 No.92718314 Report

Quoted By: >>92718412 >>92718543

>>92718214
Bullets are designed to kill organics.
The specific sword that Connie wields harms the hologram part of a gem, as it was once Rose' sword and still goes by that name.
The only other sword that was wielded against another gem was when a Holo-Pearl stabbed the actual Pearl. Hologram on hologram violence.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 19:17:22 No.92718412 Report

Quoted By:

>>92718314
*and it still

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 19:18:33 No.92718446 Report

Quoted By: >>92718575

>>92705009
>this is like saying we would beat Godzilla because you say it's not smart.
We would definitely "beat" Godzilla. It just might involve casualties piling up for a while. Fortunately, Japan is used to its cities being demolished and having to rebuild them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 19:22:03 No.92718543 Report

Quoted By: >>92718608 >>92718620

>>92718314
bismuth forged gem weaponry from earth so assuming threes no secret step involved in manufacturing them any old forged weapon can effect a hologram, so why wouldn't a lump of metal hurled at subsonic speed wont have a disruptive effect?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 19:23:15 No.92718575 Report

Quoted By:

>>92718446
especially since he would be crushed under his own weight irl

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 19:24:55 No.92718608 Report

Quoted By:

>>92718543
Not enough volume.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 19:25:15 No.92718620 Report

Quoted By:

>>92718543
Because we can't launch large projectiles at sub-sonic speeds easily.
Or alternatively, use a kinetic rod system I know it's from COD of all games but it counts, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 19:27:29 No.92718682 Report

Quoted By: >>92719337

>>92713342
Except we can do that, faggot.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-altitude_nuclear_explosion

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 19:33:11 No.92718811 Report

Quoted By: >>92719237

>>92718214

A magic gem weapon sword, yeah.

There is clearly something hella weild about gem durability. We see Gems survive falls from orbit. We cant assume simple brute force will reliably hurt them without magical gem weapons like the Crystal Gems use.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 19:52:07 No.92719237 Report

Quoted By: >>92719753

>>92718811
yet a step could crack lapis

there not exactly consistent

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 19:52:24 No.92719245 Report

Quoted By: >>92719432 >>92719489

>>92714340
>>92701791
>>92697950
It boggles me so much that people take what creators say outside their creative works as cannon for their said works. The way I see it creators have the sole ability to add more works to and clarify the continuity of their narrative, but just saying something is canon that hasn't even been referenced anywhere in the narrative already is fucking retarded. If they want it to be cannon, they have a license to tell a story and make it cannon, otherwise their comments on the matter should be held in equal value to head cannons because they do not exist yet in the vacuum of the narrative.

Like if a cardinal comes out and reveals the truth that Jesus was a lizard man, that doesn't make it cannon, it only becomes cannon when they amend the bible.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 19:56:35 No.92719337 Report

Quoted By: >>92719537

>>92718682
>"nuke them in space before they reach the atmosphere"
>look we can detonate bombs in the exosphere which is the same as detonating them in space outside of the atmosphere.
So.....this is...... American education.....wow.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 20:00:26 No.92719432 Report

Quoted By: >>92719777

>>92719245
>creator literally states someting about there creation

>I-its not canon bcuz it wasunt mentioned in universe guize!!!!!!

how can people be this retarded?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 20:03:07 No.92719489 Report

Quoted By: >>92719777

>>92719245
Well, by that logic. That means the lore books are also not canon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 20:05:06 No.92719537 Report

Quoted By: >>92719783 >>92720623

>>92719337
While technically labelled a part of the atmosphere, the exosphere is basically space, yes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 20:14:03 No.92719716 Report

Quoted By:

>>92702608
>and modern projectiles can rip that thing apart. (i.e. a cannon or a catapult)
Because there is no space debris anywhere in space.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 20:16:03 No.92719753 Report

Quoted By:

>>92719237

Yeah. Like I said, hella weird.

Bullets are basically at the mercy of a coinflip, and if they lise the flip bullets are just totally worthless. Its impossible to say for sure whether shooting a gem is one of those things that actually poofs them, or whether they are weirdly impervious to it, because there isnt a clear pattern to what they can tank and what they cant.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 20:17:11 No.92719777 Report

Quoted By: >>92719840 >>92719887 >>92719973

>>92719432
>something that's not part of the universe is part of the universe
wow, its almost like you can make anything look retarded with greentext

>>92719489
I hadn't considered where lore books would fall into this model. Do they add anything new to the universe or are they just a collection of already established lore? If the latter then there is no problem, but if the former I may have to nuance my position. If the WWII comment were in the lore book, it would be far easier to accept considering those books exist for the purpose of adding to the universe, unlike some guys twitter account where he also makes comments about real life.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 20:17:21 No.92719783 Report

Quoted By:

>>92719537
to get technical the lower boundary is the point pressure gets so low barometrics stops being effective, the exosphere is for all intents and purposes the same as the surface of the moon

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 20:20:07 No.92719840 Report

Quoted By:

>>92719777
>wow, its almost like you can make anything look retarded with greentext

that says more about whats being said than greentext itself

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 20:22:34 No.92719887 Report

Quoted By:

>>92719777
I haven't read them.

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Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 20:27:28 No.92719973 Report

Quoted By: >>92720169 >>92720295

>>92719777
>I hadn't considered where lore books would fall into this model. Do they add anything new to the universe or are they just a collection of already established lore? If the latter then there is no problem, but if the former I may have to nuance my position. If the WWII comment were in the lore book, it would be far easier to accept considering those books exist for the purpose of adding to the universe, unlike some guys twitter account where he also makes comments about real life.

>being this autistic about the story of kids tv show

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 20:30:08 No.92720027 Report

Quoted By: >>92720059

>>92709991
>Though, if Earth is some kinda of hippy, SJW, progressive fever dream of Rebeca Sugar as I suspect it is, we'd be fucked anyways, the least any nation would do is open their arms in "friendship" and start dressing in drag and dancing all around like savages waiting for a response, only to be vaporized on sight.
I bet you didn't even watch show.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 20:31:53 No.92720059 Report

Quoted By:

>>92720027
i bet you dont even english language

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 20:37:30 No.92720169 Report

Quoted By:

>>92719973
>being this autistic about the story of kids tv show
Wheredoyouthinkweare.jpg

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Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 20:42:37 No.92720295 Report

Quoted By:

>>92719973
>expecting anything different on a Harappan kakai swap web-page

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 20:46:57 No.92720385 Report

Quoted By:

>>92697347
Lapis could move the entire ocean all by herself, and considering how poorly Lapis was treated by the homeworld gems I don't think Lapis's are even all the high up in gem society. Humans wouldn't stand a chance in an all out war, none of our weapons are even remotely as dangerous as a single Lapis, and god knows what else homeworld has that we haven't seen yet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 20:56:47 No.92720623 Report

Quoted By: >>92720949 >>92721878

>>92719537
Wow, Americans really do try to change reality to fit their narrow minds. Magic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 21:05:14 No.92720817 Report

Quoted By:

It probably comes down to numbers, and it's hard to gauge how many gems homeworld has available to fight.
Not sure if we could take out their ships, but maybe by heaping enough firepower on one those shields could be overwhelmed. Depends on how many ships of that caliber they have available.
Obviously, gems and their technology are far more advanced than our own, but a gun would most likely poof a gem with a single shot. You don't need to aim for the gem, just aim for the body and poof them and then collect the gems and shatter them at your convenience. Even if a gem is physically superior to a human, a squad of people with machine guns could still mow down a group of gems if all went according to plan.

We can assume that homeworld has multiple planets under its control, but also seems to be suffering from a lack of resources. Human reproduction takes more time, but gem reproduction seems more finite. You literally use up the planet you're on. One would think that they could create a hell of a lot of gems out of an entire planet, but who knows. Maybe only certain sediment is usable, or something like that.

I think humans could win on the ground, or at least put up enough of a fight to make the conquest not worth the potential reward. So it really depends on the ships- how many are there? Could we destroy them?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 21:10:57 No.92720949 Report

Quoted By:

>>92720623

>The Kármán line, or Karman line, lies at an altitude of 100 kilometres (62 mi; 330,000 ft) above the Earth's sea level, and commonly represents the boundary between the Earth's atmosphere and outer space.[2] This definition is accepted by the Fédération Aéronautique Internationale (FAI), which is an international standard-setting and record-keeping body for aeronautics and astronautics.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%A1rm%C3%A1n_line

>The lower boundary of the exosphere is called the exobase. It is also called exopause and 'critical altitude' as this is the altitude where barometric conditions no longer apply. Atmospheric temperature becomes nearly a constant above this altitude.[4] On Earth, the altitude of the exobase ranges from about 500 to 1,000 kilometres (310 to 620 mi) depending on solar activity.[5]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exosphere

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 21:49:12 No.92721878 Report

Quoted By:

>>92720623
You have to be at least 18 to use this site.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 21:57:33 No.92722105 Report

Quoted By:

>>92698981
>it would take 40000 joules
more like it would take 40000 gems.
get it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 21:59:33 No.92722169 Report

Quoted By:

>>92697347
>We have nukes now.
Implying we'd even need to use them

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Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 22:03:19 No.92722269 Report

Quoted By:

Just send hordes and hordes of our most desperate and pathetic NEETs to try and woo them

Once they turn them all into human babies, fire them at the sun or something

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Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 22:08:30 No.92722414 Report

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We are people saying that humans have ANY fucking chance of defeating an alien army that has ultra advanced technology?

>lol u culd shot them in the jem

Wow i'm sure that'd be very useful while earth gets nuked from orbit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 23:12:28 No.92723933 Report

Quoted By: >>92724983

Any civilisation capable of interstellar space travel will curb stomp humanity without difficulty. Nuclear weapons that can barely claw their way up our gravity well will make no difference to an opponent who can just pelt your planet from several AU away.

The only scenario that would give us anything resembling a fighting chance is if the aliens would for some reason want to keep the biosphere intact and capture the majority of humans alive.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 23:23:18 No.92724165 Report

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You know what happened with the Sontarans, right?
>*Amused* The planet is going nuclear!

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Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 23:24:02 No.92724189 Report

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>>92705203
heavier maybe not
but tougher yes

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 23:50:54 No.92724874 Report

Quoted By: >>92724961

Where are you guys getting this information that Greece and Rome don't exist in their universe? Italy and Greece seem to be pretty intact

And even if they weren't that wouldn't stop prevent it existing or another European country from taking its place

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 23:54:09 No.92724961 Report

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>>92724874

Considering the world is SJW hippy world, things are probably all kinds of different and fucked.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 23:55:06 No.92724983 Report

Quoted By: >>92725040 >>92725136

>>92723933
because the gems are shown to be fairly weak militarily. A single rebellion on a backwater world resulted in the death of a ruler the forcing of the use of a wmd to sterilize the planet of gem based life if a rag tag group of rebels under the leadership of a zookeeper.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2017 23:57:33 No.92725040 Report

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>>92724983
can archive that then a organised resistance of humans may stand a chance

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 May 2017 00:01:14 No.92725136 Report

Quoted By: >>92727376

>>92724983

>because the gems are shown to be fairly weak militarily.

it was a civil war. they fought against themselves. How does losing against themselves mean they're weak?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 May 2017 01:37:01 No.92727359 Report

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>>92699356
Radiation my nigga

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 May 2017 01:37:46 No.92727376 Report

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>>92725136
Maybe "weak" isn't the right word, but "inept" certainly is.

Then again, EVERYONE is inept in Steven Universe.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 May 2017 01:38:30 No.92727395 Report

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>>92698101
>engage autistic screeching
>gems shatter

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 May 2017 01:50:59 No.92727692 Report

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>>92705222
>Look. They're only good against the first wave of gems. Unless they're straw villains that only exist to make manly men feel tough, the gems will recalculate and switch to a largely range-based approach. At which point humanity will die because hey guess what! Bullets are even better at killing humans than they are gems!

Humans are know for their inability to adapt

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Anonymous Sat 27 May 2017 01:54:06 No.92727755 Report

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Ayy lmao army of miners when?

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Anonymous Sat 27 May 2017 01:58:47 No.92727852 Report

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Reminder that if you think the gems could beat humanity, you're a filthy fucking traitor who needs to be agonized to death.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 May 2017 02:02:21 No.92727929 Report

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ITT: Anons get upset because they wouldn't be able to be the heroes of an alien invasion.

Face facts, faggots. We'd be fucked.

You're never going to be a hero to anyone, for any reason.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 May 2017 02:18:13 No.92728278 Report

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>>92712936
Well if you count the gems we've seen in the series six gems are pro-Crystal Gem and 8 aren't so it's more like a 40% defect rate. Even then most of the defecting gems don't care about humans as much as they care about one specific person. Garnet wasn't allowed to be who she was in society outside of Rose, Pearl was in love with Rose, Bismuth obviously just hated the class above her, and Lapis just likes Steven and can't rejoin society. The only people who were brought around by the love and joy of humanity were Peridot, still mostly a "Steven is a good person" thing, and Amy who is more or less just human due to never being around Homeworld culture. They did have a civil war so there is probably a lot of animosity over the whole "Everyone is a slave" thing that their culture has.

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Anonymous Sat 27 May 2017 02:20:13 No.92728320 Report

Quoted By: >>92728550 >>92729438

>>92707287
>Probably. They have been conquering planets for thousands of years, haven't they?
>>92707531
>Then why would they have weapons and armies?

Peridot does mentions how they're a space-faring race of conquerors but I assume what they've conquered have been planets uninhabited by sentient life. Like clearing a forest full of wolves so you can build a pioneer settlement. It's dangerous, but on a whole different scale than another sentient species with the ability to organize, adapt and implement weaponry that aren't part of their physiological makeup.

Going back to Cortez and the Aztecs, the Aztecs fought "garland wars" whose main goal was to capture prisoners for human sacrifice, while the conquistadors fought to kill. The Aztecs thought this was barbaric and were totally caught off guard by it. I'm willing to bet Homeworld hadn't factored in what to do if their armies were shattered and not poofed or corrupted.

Let's say for example Homeworld sends an expeditionary fleet against Earth. The fleet's objective is orbital bombardment followed by quartz soldiers to mop up any survivors. Earth uses EMP mounted on ballistic missiles to take down the fleet. Would Homeworld be able to stop an EMP pulse? Have they fought anyone with those kinds of capabilities before? What would an EMP pulse do to a gem's hard light form anyway? Who knows, but for the sake of argument: the fleet is disabled, and all the quartz soldiers are taken down and shattered by sheer numbers. Resources on Homeworld are dwindling, as Peridot mentioned. Losing a fleet might be enough to convince Homeworld to stay well away from Earth in the future. Or it might convince them to double-down and send everything they have at us so we don't take the fight to Homeworld. Again, who knows. But I don't think humans would be easy to take down, even with Homeworld's massive tech advantage.

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Anonymous Sat 27 May 2017 02:31:02 No.92728550 Report

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>>92728320
And finally, whatever technomagic crap Homeworld wants to throw at us, we've got Big Bertha.

https://youtu.be/sLum1jxW1ls

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 May 2017 03:10:48 No.92729438 Report

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>>92728320

> but I assume what they've conquered have been planets uninhabited by sentient life.

So basically you're basing this off of your fanfiction.

They're an alien race with technology way ahead of is. There's no reason to believe they don't have OP as fuck weapons considering the kind of technology they already have.

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