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November 2016 Comic Book Sales Report - Top 10's

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 16:04:32 2016 No.88291078 View Reply Original Report

TOP 10 COMIC BOOKS
> 1. BATMAN #10 (DC)
> 2. BATMAN #11 (DC)
> 3. CIVIL WAR II #7 (MAR)
> 4. ALL STAR BATMAN #4 (DC)
> 5. INVINCIBLE IRON MAN #1 (MAR)
> 6. AMAZING SPIDER-MAN: RENEW YOUR VOWS #1 (MAR)
> 7. BATMAN ANNUAL #1 (DC)
> 8. VENOM #1 (MAR)
> 9. THE WALKING DEAD #160 (MR) (IMA)
> 10. IVX #0 (MAR)

TOP 10 GRAPHIC NOVELS & TRADE PAPERBACKS
> 1. PAPER GIRLS VOLUME 2 TP (IMA)
> 2. MARVEL: THE HIP-HOP COVERS VOLUME 1 HC (MAR)
> 3. DC SUPER HERO GIRLS VOL. 2: HITS AND MYTHS TP (DC)
> 4. STAR WARS: DARTH VADER VOL. 4: END OF GAMES TP (MAR)
> 5. UNBELIEVABLE GWENPOOL VOL. 1: BELIEVE IT TP (MAR)
> 6. SANDMAN OVERTURE TP (MR) (DC)
> 7. DC UNIVERSE: REBIRTH DELUXE EDITION HC (DC)
> 8. VISION VOL. 2: LITTLE BETTER THAN BEAST TP (MAR)
> 9. MOON KNIGHT VOLUME 1: LUNATIC TP (MAR)
> 10. DEADPOOL V. GAMBIT: V IS FOR VS TP (MAR)

>From the premier publishers, Batman/TMNT Adventures #1 was IDW Publishing's top book at #14 for the month, and Dark Horse Comics' Serenity: No Power in the 'Verse #2 was their best-selling book at #113.

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Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 16:04:56 No.88291083 Report

Quoted By: >>88291109 >>88291728 >>88291827

>Marvel Comics was November’s top publisher with a 38.08% dollar share and a 39.46% unit share. DC Entertainment was the month's number two publisher with a 26.17% dollar share and a 31.30% unit share. At number three was Image Comics with an 8.99% dollar share and a 9.06% unit share. IDW Publishing was fourth with a 5.23% dollar share and a 4.59% unit share, followed by Dark Horse Comics with a 3.65% dollar share and 2.85% units share.

Sauce: http://www.diamondcomics.com/Home/1/1/3/597?articleID=119353

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 16:06:40 No.88291109 Report

Quoted By: >>88291141 >>88291188 >>88292697

>>88291083
Marvel's Jewish tactics worked yet again. But they can only work for so long.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 16:07:56 No.88291127 Report

Quoted By: >>88294423

Publisher market shares and comparative sales statistics.

Note that this report covers only orders made by North American Diamond accounts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 16:08:04 No.88291130 Report

Quoted By: >>88291512

>>88291078
>MARVEL: THE HIP-HOP COVERS VOLUME 1 HC (MAR)
Man, people are seriously buying that overpriced thing?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 16:08:42 No.88291141 Report

Quoted By:

>>88291109
We said this before and it never pans out.
Jewish tricks always win anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 16:09:10 No.88291149 Report

Quoted By:

>>88291078
>5. UNBELIEVABLE GWENPOOL VOL. 1: BELIEVE IT TP (MAR)
MEGAFAG BTFO

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 16:09:22 No.88291156 Report

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> 6. AMAZING SPIDER-MAN: RENEW YOUR VOWS #1 (MAR)
YYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEREREEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSDDSSDSDSSDDDDSDSSSSSSSSSSSSS

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 16:10:43 No.88291188 Report

Quoted By: >>88291228 >>88291380 >>88291412 >>88291664

>>88291109
Marvel literally didn't do anything they haven't always done. They didn't react to DC's push in any way.

DC is a failed publisher. That's all. The things they print are unpopular.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 16:10:45 No.88291189 Report

Quoted By: >>88291251

> 1. PAPER GIRLS VOLUME 2 TP (IMA)
OH HELL YES BABY!

GOOD COMICS ARE SELLING!!!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 16:12:50 No.88291228 Report

Quoted By:

>>88291188
>DC is a failed publisher. That's all. The things they print are unpopular.
How many cents you get for this sentence, mouseketeer?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 16:13:16 No.88291246 Report

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>>88291078
>RYV is the only Spider-Man title in the top 10.
OMD retcon when?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 16:13:30 No.88291251 Report

Quoted By: >>88291327

>>88291189
I read only the first 2 issues
Does it keep good?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 16:14:07 No.88291258 Report

Quoted By: >>88293346

>>88291078
>1. BATMAN #10 (DC)
>> 2. BATMAN #11 (DC)
Emo Batman is 1?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 16:15:13 No.88291284 Report

Quoted By: >>88291323

Yfw the only top ten dc books are all batman.Has DC been put in it's place

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 16:15:18 No.88291286 Report

Quoted By:

>Batman, Number 1s, an events.
This is like the most stagnate and predictable industry every.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 16:15:22 No.88291288 Report

Quoted By: >>88291487

>>88291078
>DC: Batman
>Marvel: #1's and retarded events
>TWD
Business as usual.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 16:15:43 No.88291292 Report

Quoted By:

>Star Wars comics completely fell out of the top ten
HA HA

HA HAHA HA

HA HA

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 16:16:38 No.88291316 Report

Quoted By:

>D.C. back on top
>RYV in top 10 (Thank goodness, I was really worried about this)

Based.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 16:17:10 No.88291323 Report

Quoted By: >>88291344 >>88291372 >>88292025

>>88291284
But they're the top books. And all the Marvel books are #1s and events

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 16:17:15 No.88291327 Report

Quoted By: >>88291362 >>88291445

>>88291251
Oh boy does it ever, it only gets better with every issue, I swear to god its amazing!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 16:17:53 No.88291344 Report

Quoted By:

>>88291323
>terrible #1s and shitty events
Fixed.

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Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 16:17:57 No.88291347 Report

Quoted By: >>88293129 >>88294464 >>88294499

>>88291078
>literally give most of their comics for free
>still counts as a sell this inflating their sales number to make it seem lik they are still doing good

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 16:18:27 No.88291355 Report

Quoted By:

>>88291078
>Batman x4
>event x2
>#1s x3
This industry sucks

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 16:18:56 No.88291362 Report

Quoted By: >>88291390

>>88291327
Yeah, you said the same about Saga...

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 16:19:21 No.88291372 Report

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>>88291323
This means only the batbooks have held Onto the rebirth hype,All those rebirths ages screaming that rebirth is proof the #1s and events would never recover have been BTFO

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 16:19:50 No.88291380 Report

Quoted By: >>88291471 >>88295619

>>88291188
Really? When Marvel is pubblishing 4 new events every month, and dozens of number ones, with variant covers and other shitty gimmicks, what you expect. Marvel doesn't dominates because of the quality of their stories, but because of marketing tricks, that unfortunately the comic fags (who instead of readers, they are collectors) are falling to. I would like to see for once if Marvel could keep their titles for more than number 10, and without events, if the sales would be the same.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 16:20:30 No.88291390 Report

Quoted By: >>88291462

>>88291362
I think you have me confused with someone else but I am pretty sure Saga is also among the absolute best comic books publishhed today.

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Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 16:22:02 No.88291412 Report

Quoted By: >>88291501 >>88291649 >>88293381 >>88294452 >>88295619

>>88291188
Remind me which publisher almost went bankrupt in the 90s.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 16:23:31 No.88291445 Report

Quoted By: >>88291539 >>88291591

>>88291327
You sound like a tumblrite.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 16:24:07 No.88291462 Report

Quoted By: >>88291560

>>88291390
Why do you Image shills always shill for the same old shit? Image has better books than BKV's, you know.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 16:24:21 No.88291467 Report

Quoted By: >>88291485

>>88291078
Hahaha, Marvel wins again? This shit is hilarious.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 16:24:35 No.88291471 Report

Quoted By:

>>88291380
They also use their Disney money to give away most of their stock away for free to inflate their sales numbers. Also varients.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 16:25:10 No.88291485 Report

Quoted By:

>>88291467
>Marvel wins again?
Nope.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 16:25:11 No.88291487 Report

Quoted By:

>>88291288
This.

The comic book industry is so fucking predictable. These 3 things are what sell among the comic book readers. Ah and variant covers. Are the comic book readers such idiots really to buy a book because of variant covers?

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Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 16:25:15 No.88291489 Report

Quoted By: >>88291518 >>88291843

>4/10 comics are Batman
can't make this shit up

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 16:26:19 No.88291501 Report

Quoted By: >>88291532 >>88291541 >>88292330

>>88291412
Now they have Disney money. They can now give away all their terrible comics for free without worrying about going bankrupt. Wouldn't surprise me if it's a part of their plane to crash the industry (again).

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Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 16:26:41 No.88291511 Report

Quoted By: >>88292042

>if it doesn't have Batman, a big fat #1 on the cover, a bunch of variants, or isn't event related then it probably won't sell

Comic book """"""""fans""""""""" were a mistake.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 16:26:43 No.88291512 Report

Quoted By:

>>88291130
I went to my shop once, and sure enough, a guy was collecting them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 16:26:56 No.88291518 Report

Quoted By:

>>88291489
Cheer up, Rai. Remember that your publisher cannot die from bad sales, like Marvel.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 16:27:27 No.88291528 Report

Quoted By: >>88291547 >>88291564

Where's DidioHope! Anon?Hiding till The tide turns again like the rat he is?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 16:27:39 No.88291532 Report

Quoted By:

>>88291501
For this reason i boycott everything Mouse related.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 16:28:09 No.88291539 Report

Quoted By: >>88292006

>>88291445
And you sound like a /pol/ crossposter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 16:28:16 No.88291541 Report

Quoted By:

>>88291501
>They can now give away all their terrible comics for free
Even better: they could turn Marvel comics into webcomics, and so they'd save paper. Ike, are you reading this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 16:28:44 No.88291547 Report

Quoted By: >>88291591

>>88291528
The rat is actually the symbol of your company shill.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 16:28:54 No.88291553 Report

Quoted By: >>88291580 >>88291582 >>88291610

Where's Champions?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 16:29:12 No.88291560 Report

Quoted By: >>88291591

>>88291462
If you say so.

I do know Paper Girls is amazing though.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 16:29:20 No.88291564 Report

Quoted By: >>88291594 >>88291879 >>88291932 >>88292884

>>88291528
>> 1. BATMAN #10 (DC)
>> 2. BATMAN #11 (DC)
>> 4. ALL STAR BATMAN #4 (DC)
>> 7. BATMAN ANNUAL #1 (DC)
Sorry, busy at the gym.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 16:29:55 No.88291574 Report

Quoted By: >>88291610 >>88291629

>Champions not in the top 10

Wow, who could have ever guessed that happening!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 16:30:09 No.88291580 Report

Quoted By:

>>88291553
Apparently pulled a Guardians of Infinity

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 16:30:12 No.88291582 Report

Quoted By:

>>88291553
In the trash where it belongs

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 16:30:50 No.88291591 Report

Quoted By: >>88291636

>>88291560
>>88291445

>>88291547
Or this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 16:30:58 No.88291594 Report

Quoted By: >>88291622 >>88291948

>>88291564
>>literally all the dc books on top are batman.This is some how hopeful and good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 16:31:50 No.88291610 Report

Quoted By:

>>88291553
>>88291574
So it's like every other non-Batman non-Event book. Shocking.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 16:32:18 No.88291622 Report

Quoted By: >>88291654

>>88291594
Apparently Batman fans are the only ones that bother to read comics

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 16:32:41 No.88291629 Report

Quoted By:

>>88291574
Don't worry, they are giving Champions #3 out or free. It's here to stay.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 16:33:07 No.88291636 Report

Quoted By: >>88291674

>>88291591
Funny how people who hate Image always make the worst posts.

Really makes you think

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 16:34:13 No.88291649 Report

Quoted By:

>>88291412
Name?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 16:34:24 No.88291654 Report

Quoted By: >>88291782 >>88292121

>>88291622
Sadly true.
>BOO HOO WHY DON'T THEY MAKE A BOOK ABOUT THIS CHARACTER
>DC publishes it
>the whiners don't buy it, it's canceled
>BOO HOO WHY DID THEY CANCEL IT

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 16:34:50 No.88291664 Report

Quoted By: >>88295619

>>88291188
>The things they print are unpopular
They've had most of the top-ten selling comics every month this year since June.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 16:35:18 No.88291670 Report

Quoted By: >>88291748

> people cheering marvel
> champions was #1 last month
> didnt even make top 10 this month

you guys never learn
always celebrating a thing that does not exist
marvel is giving free copies of their books and it is making in the actual numbers

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 16:35:27 No.88291674 Report

Quoted By: >>88291694 >>88292454

>>88291636
>you hate my Safe Space Comics!
No, I just dislike SJWs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 16:36:23 No.88291694 Report

Quoted By: >>88291726 >>88291798

>>88291674
>if it has literary value, it's sjw
Capefags, everyone.

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Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 16:37:45 No.88291726 Report

Quoted By: >>88291745

>>88291694
>tumblr propaganda
>literary value

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 16:37:52 No.88291728 Report

Quoted By: >>88291823

>>88291083
I don't know much about selling comics, but isn't it kind of counter-intuitive for Marvel to have more market share when DC has had almost all the top ten sellers for months now?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 16:39:09 No.88291745 Report

Quoted By: >>88291795

>>88291726
>comics of actual quality
>"""""""PROPAGANDA""""""
Capeshit man, it rots your brain.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 16:39:17 No.88291748 Report

Quoted By: >>88291770

>>88291670
>marvel is giving free copies of their books and it is making in the actual numbers
Yep. Also hundreds of variants with specific requirements.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 16:40:39 No.88291770 Report

Quoted By:

>>88291748
Those variant requirements are the real cancer of the comic industry.

>Order 150% of [Dying Book] in order to be eligible for Hip Hop variant of [Book everyone wants]
It's just inflating shit and forcing shops to buy shit they don't want/can't sell.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 16:41:27 No.88291782 Report

Quoted By:

>>88291654
If Marvel continously oversaturates the market eith new #1s, events and variant covers, each month, plus giving away their stock for free, it doesn't leave much room for other books, characters, or pubblishers to breathe. The minor characters are condamned from the beginning. So DC is forced to concentrate to the books that sell. Which means more Batman.

P.s. The people that buy the garbage called Civil War II are doing a disservice, to the whole industry.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 16:41:59 No.88291795 Report

Quoted By: >>88291872

>>88291745
>TRIGGERED.jpg
Drunk some black tranny semen, it will calm you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 16:42:04 No.88291798 Report

Quoted By:

>>88291694
>comics
>literary value
Name some """mature""" comics for """mature""" gentleman such as yourself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 16:43:30 No.88291823 Report

Quoted By:

>>88291728
Marvel gives away free comics to inflate their numbers since Diamond still counts it as a sell even if they give it out for free. They want to keep the illusion that Marvel is in perfect shape even though books like Mosaic and Solo are tanking. And they got the money to do so. It's why you see Marvel creators on twitter (like Spencer and Slott) Butthurt over DC's Rebirth despite Marvel """"selling"""" more than DC.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 16:43:49 No.88291827 Report

Quoted By: >>88291853

>>88291078
>>88291083

"Marvel is doomed! Bleeding Cool told me so!" cries /co/, increasingly nervous, for the 12th time this year.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 16:44:11 No.88291834 Report

Quoted By: >>88291866 >>88291876 >>88291884 >>88291933 >>88292020

>Marvel back on top

Now can the pro-DC shills shut the fuck up about Marvel being doomed and just talk about the comics, not the stupid company wars bullshit?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 16:44:44 No.88291843 Report

Quoted By:

>>88291489
Cute little cyber ninja.

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Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 16:45:14 No.88291853 Report

Quoted By:

>>88291827
>Marvel is doomed!
Yes, to eternal relaunches and events and free comics that no one wants. A fate worse than death, if you ask me.

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Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 16:45:54 No.88291866 Report

Quoted By: >>88291933

>>88291834
Haha, silly anon, what would they talk about if they couldn't talk about how much they hate marvel

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 16:46:05 No.88291872 Report

Quoted By: >>88291933

>>88291795
That mad, huh?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 16:46:25 No.88291876 Report

Quoted By: >>88291929

>>88291834
Marvel comics are garbage. And Marvel doesn't give a shit about comics, only about sales. So yes to company wars, because that exactly what Marvel and their shills want.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 16:46:27 No.88291879 Report

Quoted By:

>>88291564
Fucking DChads and their... gyms.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 16:46:38 No.88291884 Report

Quoted By: >>88291983

>>88291834
>implying Marvel isn't doomed still

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 16:48:59 No.88291929 Report

Quoted By: >>88291991

>>88291876
>no, your the shill!

Fuck right off. It's this kind of mentality that is shitting up the board

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 16:49:05 No.88291932 Report

Quoted By:

>>88291564
>Sorry, busy at the gym.
Underrated.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 16:49:06 No.88291933 Report

Quoted By:

>>88291872
>>88291866
>>88291834
The mouse is rabid indeed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 16:50:02 No.88291948 Report

Quoted By:

>>88291594
it's not called Detective Comics Comics for nothing, you know

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 16:51:43 No.88291983 Report

Quoted By: >>88292010 >>88293015

>>88291884
Marvel is safe. They have Disney money to give away free comics to inflate sales. They will crash the industry before letting anyone beat them again (with no survivors)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 16:52:26 No.88291991 Report

Quoted By: >>88292894

>>88291929
Enjoy then the next Bendis event you brainless idiot. People like you are responsable, for the garbage comics that Marvel delivers nowdays. And don't miss the next variant and #1.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 16:52:53 No.88292006 Report

Quoted By:

>>88291539
The lesser of 2 evils to be quite honest desu.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 16:53:25 No.88292010 Report

Quoted By:

>>88291983
Once Ike sees that the comics are no longer profitable, the publisher is dead.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 16:53:50 No.88292020 Report

Quoted By: >>88292048

>>88291834
>Literally giving away comics so they can stay "on top"
Lol no still doomed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 16:54:00 No.88292025 Report

Quoted By:

>>88291323
>And all the Marvel books are #1s
every marvel book is a #1 now

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 16:55:00 No.88292042 Report

Quoted By: >>88293407

>>88291511
The real fault lies with the floppy comic book format and business model (Diamond).

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 16:55:14 No.88292048 Report

Quoted By: >>88292088

>>88292020

>I get my news from twitter because that's where the FACTS are!

Mmm, telling.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 16:56:42 No.88292068 Report

Quoted By: >>88292123 >>88293554

>>88291078
The sad part is that Marvel are ahead by about 11%. DC wasn't ahead by this much when they were dominating. Rebirth has been a piece of crap but still... Marvel is pure unfiltered shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 16:57:27 No.88292088 Report

Quoted By:

>>88292048
Yes, twitter accounts that belong to comic shops. Unless you prefer to think comic shops conspire against your precious mouse?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 16:58:49 No.88292121 Report

Quoted By: >>88292140 >>88292145 >>88292200

>>88291654
Fuck you. I'm not going to be guilt tripped for being a trade waiter. Floppy comics are terrible.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 16:58:57 No.88292123 Report

Quoted By: >>88292165

>>88292068
>Marvel sucks, but hey, so does DC!
Adorable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 17:00:07 No.88292140 Report

Quoted By:

>>88292121
Nice to meet you, collector of dead comics.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 17:00:20 No.88292145 Report

Quoted By:

>>88292121
You should feel guilty. And yeah, it's terrible but you knew what you were getting into.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 17:01:15 No.88292159 Report

Quoted By: >>88292227

>DCfags would rather see DC fail than Batman selling

Woah, what a terrible fanbase. I feel bad for DC.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 17:01:34 No.88292165 Report

Quoted By: >>88292213

>>88292123
It's the sad truth.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 17:03:21 No.88292200 Report

Quoted By: >>88292235

>>88292121
>floppies are shit so it's ok if I get reprinted shit
Help me decipher this?
Why not just pirate exclusively?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 17:04:05 No.88292213 Report

Quoted By: >>88292239

>>88292165
>my opinions are truth
Everytime.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 17:04:56 No.88292227 Report

Quoted By: >>88292360

>>88292159
It could be worse; the fanbase could have been replaced by unpaid shills and /tv/ fags, like happened to Marvel remember Marvel? neither do I.

Jumpman !!wPhlyh8seG+

Jumpman !!wPhlyh8seG+ Fri 09 Dec 2016 17:05:01 No.88292230 Report

Quoted By: >>88295648

>Batman
>Batman
>and Batman

This reminds me of a radio ad I heard not too long ago. It was an Loot Crate ad and big name nerd brands were referenced to wet listener's appetite. What struck me how the Marvel name itself was used for hype, while only the Batman brand was there to represent DC.

People are not hyped about DC superheroes the same way they are for Marvel's. To many, DC just means Batman.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 17:05:14 No.88292235 Report

Quoted By: >>88292518

>>88292200
Trade paperbacks or hardcovers are where it's at. I'm not a poor NEET who has to download comics so I don't have to leave my house.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 17:05:20 No.88292236 Report

Quoted By:

>>88291078
> 6. AMAZING SPIDER-MAN: RENEW YOUR VOWS #1 (MAR)
I thought Slott's ASM beat this? Did Varients or free copies increase it's sales?

Not that I'm complaining since it's a good book.

But I have a feeling it's going to quickly fall off the charts like Champions. And I don't think Marvel will want to keep it around like Champions (why must being a MJfan be full of suffering?!!!)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 17:05:27 No.88292239 Report

Quoted By:

>>88292213
Shut up, you event devouring pleb.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 17:10:04 No.88292310 Report

Quoted By: >>88292388

>>88291078
Slott crying wojak when?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 17:12:20 No.88292330 Report

Quoted By: >>88292747

>>88291501
and that's exactly why the retarded Diamond chart says they're on top now despite DC dominating the top ten most of the year.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 17:12:53 No.88292340 Report

Quoted By: >>88292355 >>88292391 >>88292420 >>88292569

A lot of marvel is bad and they relaunched a lot of books, but not all of them. They have plenty of continuing series and not all they publish is given away for free / at cancellation numbers. Lets calm the fuck down, why is everyone so angry? I read all the big three publishers and DC events and big books are just as bad. Suicide squad, justice league and batman are terrible books and so are their events. Its what's needed to get sales. It sucks but I dont bash the entire publisher, just the individual writers. All this shitposting shows dc fans as childish and no, thinking that marvel can have two or three good series doesnt make you a pay employee.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 17:14:08 No.88292355 Report

Quoted By: >>88292397

>>88292340
>Big Three

Hello Kirkman

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 17:14:25 No.88292360 Report

Quoted By: >>88292411 >>88292430

>>88292227
Marvels fans are the same as dc. The difference is dc fans call you a shill if you like marvel and not the other way.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 17:15:45 No.88292387 Report

Quoted By: >>88292404

there is no bigger mark of retardation than buying Diamond numbers as the gospel.

Of course, it's all marvelcucks have left...

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 17:15:46 No.88292388 Report

Quoted By: >>88292646 >>88292841

>>88292310
RYV will fall off the top ten charts because it will no longer be a #1 (also the hundred varients helped).

Slott also knows how to trick people with the whole "EVERYTHING WILL CHANGE" event/controversy to sell his book. And is the main important book.

I'm sorry, anon. Slott is here to stay for years and years and years.

Hopefully physical and digital sales can keep RYV alive.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 17:15:52 No.88292391 Report

Quoted By:

>>88292340
>big three

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 17:16:17 No.88292397 Report

Quoted By:

>>88292355
I know image sells less, I just didn't know how to word it because english is my second language. Sorry.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 17:16:46 No.88292404 Report

Quoted By: >>88292439

>>88292387

if only they could have twitter accounts and bleeding cool, like DC.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 17:17:05 No.88292411 Report

Quoted By:

>>88292360
>not the other way
lmao

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 17:17:42 No.88292420 Report

Quoted By:

>>88292340
>big three

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 17:18:03 No.88292430 Report

Quoted By: >>88292456

>>88292360
>Not the other way around
Lmfao good one

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 17:18:22 No.88292439 Report

Quoted By: >>88292469

>>88292404
the words of actual retailers are unironically better than a system that counts comics given away for free

not that I'd expect a marvelcuck to understand how disgustingly anti-distributor they are

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 17:18:30 No.88292441 Report

Quoted By: >>88292478 >>88292562

>>88291078
Mah...Batman is one of less interesting comic of the Rebirth. Why sell so much?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 17:19:08 No.88292454 Report

Quoted By: >>88292474

>>88291674
>boogeymen! Boogeyman as far as the eye can see!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 17:19:15 No.88292456 Report

Quoted By: >>88292471

>>88292430
Nobody calls dc fans shills.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 17:20:05 No.88292469 Report

Quoted By: >>88292488 >>88292501

>>88292439

>I believe everything I read on twitter, the poster

shouldn't you be chasing down Hillary's child sex pizzeria ring?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 17:20:07 No.88292471 Report

Quoted By:

>>88292456
You can literally google DCShills and get threads about it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 17:20:16 No.88292474 Report

Quoted By:

>>88292454
>boogeyman boogeyman

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 17:20:30 No.88292478 Report

Quoted By:

>>88292441
Because it's Batman and people will keep buying it even it's bad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 17:21:18 No.88292488 Report

Quoted By: >>88292553

>>88292469
Says the anon who believes anything Marvel says on twitter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 17:21:47 No.88292501 Report

Quoted By: >>88292553 >>88294132

>>88292469
comic retailers have no reason to lie about how badly Marlel books are doing, Pedosta

you'll have to show some proof they are lying that isn't a chart cooked with free comics given away

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 17:22:40 No.88292518 Report

Quoted By: >>88292606

>>88292235
Anon, you don't have to leave your house to get trades...

You sound like you could easily be an insecure basement dweller that relies on autismbux. Why is the NEET thing your first instinct to comment on in defense instead of maybe just enjoying the feel of physical copies.

This still doesn't addresses the fact that you're still buying reprinted shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 17:24:23 No.88292541 Report

Quoted By: >>88292635 >>88292638

>>88291078
>DC is only represented by Batman again
So, the hype behind Rebirth finally died out eh? That sucks, DCfags could have used a little more time in the sun.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 17:25:14 No.88292553 Report

Quoted By: >>88292576 >>88292582 >>88292599 >>88293598

>>88292488
>>88292501

Ah yes, Diamond is in the pocket of Marvel, right. That's why DC did better those two months in the middle of the year with Rebirth. It was probably just Marvel's clever scheme to make Diamond LOOK like they're a neutral third party, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 17:25:53 No.88292562 Report

Quoted By:

>>88292441
For real? Because it's Batman. He's one of the few characters DC makes an effort to push, so yeah he does well. He's also extremely popular thanks to the Nolan movies, the JL cartoon, and other shit.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 17:26:17 No.88292569 Report

Quoted By:

>>88292340
>Image
>big
Literally "for you"

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 17:26:38 No.88292576 Report

Quoted By:

>>88292553
>probably just Marvel's clever scheme to make Diamond LOOK like they're a neutral third party
If you don't defend this, you don't deserve working for the Mouse.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 17:26:48 No.88292582 Report

Quoted By:

>>88292553
>Ah yes, Diamond is in the pocket of Marvel, right
no one said that, it's just a broken system, factually

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 17:27:34 No.88292599 Report

Quoted By:

>>88292553
You're delusional if you don't think Marvel is artificially inflating their numbers. We KNOW they are, retailers are saying so.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 17:27:52 No.88292606 Report

Quoted By:

>>88292518
>Why is the NEET thing your first instinct to comment on in defense instead of maybe just enjoying the feel of physical copies.
Because bait begets bait. I'm not ignorant enough to respond to shitposting with a serious response.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 17:29:45 No.88292635 Report

Quoted By:

>>88292541
On one hand it sucks that Marvel's Jewish tricks are once again being rewarded. On the other DC has a few events of their own coming up. Superman: Reborn, JL vs SS, and that summer Bat-event. Now that they've regained the goodwill they lost those will probably sell well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 17:29:52 No.88292638 Report

Quoted By:

>>88292541
>people liking the classics
Yeah, disgusting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 17:30:32 No.88292646 Report

Quoted By:

>>88292388
>Slott is here to stay for years and years and years.
Really though that all depends on how long he'll live. Have you seen him?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 17:33:55 No.88292697 Report

Quoted By: >>88292709 >>88292735 >>88292750

>>88291109

Rebirth's shine is starting to wear off that's all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 17:34:38 No.88292709 Report

Quoted By:

>>88292697
>Marvel can only triumph if DC fails
Poor Marvel.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 17:36:06 No.88292735 Report

Quoted By:

>>88292697

I'm sure DC will get a bump when they do another relaunch next year. DCYouToo!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 17:36:55 No.88292747 Report

Quoted By:

>>88292330
But it's a sales chart, it shows that Marvel outsells them dramatically, and the reason for this is because stores are still buying marvel stuff.

Old and new alike.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 17:36:58 No.88292750 Report

Quoted By:

>>88292697
keep repeating often enough, doesn't become true, etc.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 17:38:05 No.88292764 Report

Quoted By: >>88292791 >>88292854

>DC finally doing great

>mock Marvel fans

>Marvel claws back up, in spite of CW2 being awful

>DC fans have a fit

Holy shit, why are you people so fucking sensitive?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 17:39:29 No.88292791 Report

Quoted By: >>88292809 >>88292813 >>88292958

>>88292764
Marvel fans shouldn't be happy that CWII and IVX are doing well either.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 17:40:44 No.88292809 Report

Quoted By:

>>88292791

I'm not happy about it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 17:40:57 No.88292813 Report

Quoted By:

>>88292791
>Marvel fans
They're gone, Jim.

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Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 17:41:45 No.88292823 Report

Quoted By: >>88292845

>>88291078

> 5. UNBELIEVABLE GWENPOOL VOL. 1: BELIEVE IT TP (MAR)

THIS BOOK WILL NEVER DIE. Unless they change the creative team.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 17:43:13 No.88292841 Report

Quoted By:

>>88292388
I think RYV will do fine even if it drops off. It's got a popular status quo and a well liked writer, it's trying to concentrate on covering fresh ground while all Slott is doing is rely on shock tactic member berry juice.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 17:43:31 No.88292845 Report

Quoted By: >>88292935

>>88292823
I was surprised to see it that high. I don't think it's great, but it's not hot garbage like squirrel girl or hellcat. It's just kind of there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 17:43:51 No.88292854 Report

Quoted By: >>88292871 >>88292872 >>88292899 >>88292980 >>88294322

>>88292764
because dc sucks, and has sucked for a long time. I'm not sure what it is, if it's the feel of the characters, or if they don't get enough good stories, or if they don't have enough memeorable characters outside fo the justice league or what.

Dc comcis are filled with a lot of gods, space missions, unrelateable characters, and really bizzarre events. It doesn't help that most of thier heroes don't feel fresh anymore, they feel like heroes that belong inside a comic books comic book at this point.

Marvel has the same problems, but they seem to get a lot more diamonds in the rough than DC does, where dc seems to be mostly 23 batman books and a superman book, with the very rare animal man typer story every once in a while. I guess they read like the comic book version of the kid trying to act like the cool kids to be one, but they never quite get it. But then you rememerb they were there longer and you start to wonder how they've been so shit for so long.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 17:43:55 No.88292856 Report

Quoted By: >>88292911

>GRAH I'M SO MAD COMPANY WARS
These threads are the worst ones on /co/

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 17:44:45 No.88292871 Report

Quoted By:

>>88292854
Nice pasta, bro.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 17:44:50 No.88292872 Report

Quoted By: >>88292918

>>88292854
>Marvel has the same problems, but they seem to get a lot more diamonds in the rough than DC does
that's fucking rich

I used to be like you

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 17:45:39 No.88292884 Report

Quoted By:

>>88291564
<3 ya Dan

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 17:45:56 No.88292894 Report

Quoted By: >>88292930

>>88291991
>Implying I'm a Marvel fan
>Implying I'm not just tired of constant company wars nonsense

You're making DCfags look bad. Cut it it out

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 17:46:28 No.88292899 Report

Quoted By: >>88292930 >>88293074 >>88295751

>>88292854
>because dc sucks, and has sucked for a long time. I'm not sure what it is

I'll tell you what it is, it's the New52. Killed the brand. Got rid of decades of beloved canon and characters, replaced them with reprocessed garbage and confusing timelines (I STILL don't know what's canon in Green Lantern anymore).

But /co/ will continue to defend because it has to be contrarian.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 17:46:56 No.88292911 Report

Quoted By:

>>88292856
Nah, the worst ones are company wars between movie studios.

Those fucking losers don't even read the $5 funny pages.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 17:47:02 No.88292914 Report

Quoted By:

>>88291078
> 6. AMAZING SPIDER-MAN: RENEW YOUR VOWS #1 (MAR)

AMERICANS YOU HAVE ONE JOB. DON'T SCREW THIS UP.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 17:47:20 No.88292918 Report

Quoted By: >>88292930 >>88293001

>>88292872
Guess that car accident real did a number on your higher brain functions huh.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 17:48:15 No.88292930 Report

Quoted By: >>88293077 >>88293632

>>88292899
>it's the New52
Hi, bot. Did they forget to reprogram you after the New 52 ended?

>>88292894
>Implying I'm a Marvel fan
Well, you are attacking DC and defending Marlel.

>>88292918
2edgy4me

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 17:48:19 No.88292935 Report

Quoted By:

>>88292845
I heavily enjoy it, so I was pleasantly surprised to see it on the top ten.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 17:49:21 No.88292958 Report

Quoted By:

>>88292791
This. As a Marvel fan I hate that their low quality output is rewarded. It only encourages them to continue putting out a subpar product.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 17:50:48 No.88292980 Report

Quoted By: >>88293008

>>88292854
>Dc comcis are filled with a lot of gods, space missions, unrelateable characters, and really bizzarre events.

What exactly is the problem with this? I sure as hell don't relate to Green Lantern at all, but that doesn't stop me from enjoying the character/lore.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 17:51:41 No.88293001 Report

Quoted By: >>88293120

>>88292918
no one that thinks Marvel's current output is quality has room to talk about brain functions

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 17:51:59 No.88293008 Report

Quoted By: >>88293134

>>88292980
He says DC should be boring tumblr propaganda like Marvel.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 17:52:15 No.88293015 Report

Quoted By:

>>88291983
Please, they're a subsidiary company. Marvel gets too bad Disney will gut the company and run it directly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 17:55:21 No.88293074 Report

Quoted By:

>>88292899
/co/ was mostly dissatisfied with the New52 until Rebirth outside of a handful of fringe titles. Rebirth is better. I've gone from no titles to any.
On the Marvel side, I've gone from several titles to none, and now to just a small few across the same time period.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 17:55:35 No.88293077 Report

Quoted By: >>88293466

>>88292930

The New52 never ended, that's the whole point of Rebirth, numbnuts. They brought back Wally West (and deaged him, and got rid of his marriage, oh wait why were we happy about this again?)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 17:58:00 No.88293120 Report

Quoted By: >>88293141

>>88293001
Who said the main stuff was? If you had any brain function you'd know I covered that in the post.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 17:58:36 No.88293129 Report

Quoted By: >>88294258

>>88291347
>Giving away Mosaic

Fuck, I wish I knew this comic store.
Been reading them because I find the premise interesting. Shame the writing just isn't that good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 17:59:03 No.88293134 Report

Quoted By:

>>88293008
Not at all, keep thinking that while you wank to joker's stapled on face though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 17:59:17 No.88293138 Report

Quoted By:

>>88291078
>Marvel "Wins"
>literally 3 different events ongoing
>a shit ton of #1s
>Still lower compared to last year
nice victory

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 17:59:37 No.88293141 Report

Quoted By: >>88293446

>>88293120
very little of their stuff is, and it's way less than what DC is putting out right now.

That's just fact man.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 18:11:03 No.88293346 Report

Quoted By:

>>88291258
>>1. BATMAN #10 (DC)
>>> 2. BATMAN #11 (DC)
>Emo Batman is 1?

batman is batman

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 18:12:36 No.88293381 Report

Quoted By:

>>88291412
>Remind me which publisher almost went bankrupt in the 90s.

tell the one that almost got published by the rivel because of lackluster sales

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 18:13:45 No.88293407 Report

Quoted By: >>88293585 >>88293787

>>88292042
I think the trades and the japs got it right desu. Maybe they should cut floppy sales to bare minimum and start only producing trades.

Seriously, who the hell buys a 4$ comic anymore, the whole appeal of comics back in the day was that they were super cheap adventures. Now you pay 4$ for Bendis to pander to whatever demographic he's pushing that day.

Nobody cares about this stuff.

We need more stuff like the killing joke, death of captain marvel, the dark knight returns, etc. Now that marvel's got all that disney money they can totally experiment now. I mean fuck, have some of thier competent writers design some modular arcs or something. Have a clear cut plan.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 18:15:52 No.88293446 Report

Quoted By: >>88293467 >>88293524

>>88293141
>fact
>subjective opinion
yeah, you really did get worked over by that car.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 18:16:51 No.88293466 Report

Quoted By: >>88293493 >>88293979

>>88293077
People are reading it hoping his marriage will come back when the time comes to end the Rebirth era. The whole phase is about dangling hope in front of readers as well as instilling faith in the characters again, the belief that they can work their way back to where they were.

It's the same with me and Nightwing. I want Dick and Babs to remember they got married in Convergence, but Babs a whore at the moment.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 18:16:56 No.88293467 Report

Quoted By:

>>88293446
ebin xD

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 18:17:58 No.88293493 Report

Quoted By:

>>88293466
>Dickbabs
disgusting

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 18:19:15 No.88293524 Report

Quoted By:

>>88293446
Nah, it's fact.

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Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 18:19:22 No.88293528 Report

Quoted By: >>88295651

>> 6. AMAZING SPIDER-MAN: RENEW YOUR VOWS #1 (MAR)
>Clone conspiracy nowhere to be seen
MAKE SPIDER-MAN GREAT AGAIN

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 18:20:19 No.88293554 Report

Quoted By: >>88293576

>>88292068
>shi

marvel has some good books, shut up fag

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 18:21:32 No.88293576 Report

Quoted By: >>88293643

>>88293554
No it doesn't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 18:22:03 No.88293585 Report

Quoted By: >>88294295

>>88293407
trades can't have ads, it'll never ever replace floppies. You do realize, Death of Captain Marvel? Dark Knight Returns? those examples you've listed were all originally floppies right? Don't be a fucking idiot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 18:22:27 No.88293598 Report

Quoted By:

>>88292553
>Ah yes, Diamond is in the pocket of Marvel, right.

even on comics people come with stupid "disney buying x"

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 18:24:00 No.88293632 Report

Quoted By: >>88293787

>>88292930
>Well, you are attacking DC and defending Marlel.

I'm not attacking or defending anyone you autistic shit. Marvel is publishing mostly bad books but is once again doing well sales wise due to gimmicks and bullshit. DC is publishing mostly decent books but is back at #2 and only has Batman in the top ten. Same as pre Rebirth numbers. Now hopefully all the pro DC shitposting about sales can end everyone can go back to discussing the comics, not the sales

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 18:24:42 No.88293643 Report

Quoted By:

>>88293576
>

of course it have.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 18:26:49 No.88293695 Report

Quoted By:

>>88291078
>The Killing Joke not in the top 10

Is this the end times?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 18:31:02 No.88293787 Report

Quoted By: >>88294541

>>88293632
never will as long as Bleeding Cool's Wednesday Warrior Article and Retailer Twitter Feeds show that DC's still on top where it most counts. As far as /co/'s concerned literally the reason Marvel's up top is because of incentive variants and them giving away free copies of all their books.

>>88293407
The manga industry works waaaay different from the comics industry. For one thing the latter doesn't work themselves to death. It's just easier to get into manga than it is comics. people trying to get into comics has this pre-conceived notion that they need to read EVERYTHING important about a character before they can truly start and that's too much effort.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 18:40:48 No.88293979 Report

Quoted By:

>>88293466
>People are reading it hoping his marriage will come back
No, you faggot. I'm hoping he will be free of that containment book and appear in the fucking main title he lead for TWENTY YEARS. Marriage is so low on the priority, it's hilarious.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 18:42:50 No.88294019 Report

Quoted By:

>>88291078
> Batman books
> relaunches
> TWD

Where is the failure part?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 18:48:48 No.88294132 Report

Quoted By:

>>88292501
They HAVE no reason, but there IS a reason they do it, and it's called fanboyism.

It's a common thing in comic books, and truth is that if Marvel gave away comics for free and counted them as sales that would reflect on the dollar share.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 18:55:30 No.88294258 Report

Quoted By: >>88294346

>>88293129
The premise is interesting, but the writing is awful. Like, I wouldn't have given a second thought about Mosaic being a black male had they not introduced him as a basketball star with a bitchy white girlfriend. I feel like I've read that trashy pulp novel in a Walmart aisle at least three times already.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 18:57:09 No.88294295 Report

Quoted By:

>>88293585
>trades can't have ads
Tell that to Action Labs/Danger Zone.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 18:58:09 No.88294316 Report

Quoted By:

>>88291078
Marvel on suicide squad... I mean, suicide watch

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 18:58:42 No.88294322 Report

Quoted By:

>>88292854
Jesus this is casualdom: the post

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 19:00:17 No.88294346 Report

Quoted By: >>88294454

>>88294258
I've just read about him. Isn't he just Deadman, but alive (and black)?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 19:00:24 No.88294350 Report

Quoted By: >>88294402 >>88294499

doesn't marvel give their comics for free?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 19:02:05 No.88294381 Report

Quoted By: >>88294402 >>88294499

Okay so I'm curious, didn't marvel start handing out free comics to their buyers in order to 'increase their sales margin'?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 19:03:05 No.88294402 Report

Quoted By: >>88294416

>>88294381
>>88294350
Yes, read the thread.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 19:04:05 No.88294416 Report

Quoted By: >>88294464 >>88294499

>>88294402
Provide proof dc bitch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 19:04:36 No.88294423 Report

Quoted By:

>>88291127
>the most important bit of sales info in the thread doesn't get a single reply

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 19:05:59 No.88294452 Report

Quoted By:

>>88291412
Remind me which publisher's had a sugar daddy company since the 60's and we'll talk.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 19:06:08 No.88294454 Report

Quoted By: >>88295139

>>88294346
He's black teen Deadman without an actual "Deadman" form; he zaps between bodies directly, without floating around in a red jumpsuit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 19:06:38 No.88294464 Report

Quoted By: >>88295107

>>88294416
There you have it:
>>88291347
Like I said, read the thread.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 19:06:58 No.88294475 Report

Quoted By: >>88295725

>>88291078
>> 2. MARVEL: THE HIP-HOP COVERS VOLUME 1 HC (MAR)
man not even DC Bombshells art book did this good even though it's 10x better lol
I think they came out the same month

>3. DC SUPER HERO GIRLS VOL. 2: HITS AND MYTHS TP (DC)
i wonder when they're gonna start making these more expensive now that they now people actually buy these

>5. UNBELIEVABLE GWENPOOL VOL. 1: BELIEVE IT TP (MAR)
i wish DC could shit out a waifu and have it sell buttloads
Marvel's done it when both Gwens and yet dc won't do the same thing for some reason

> 8. VISION VOL. 2: LITTLE BETTER THAN BEAST TP (MAR)
yesssss
hardcover with both trades together when
both trades sold well so you know marvel will do it
maybe when the new avengers movie comes out

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 19:08:03 No.88294499 Report

Quoted By:

>>88294350
>>88294381
>>88294416
See >>88291347. I don't believe you'll be seeing the numbers on the charts until December sales are published in January, unless the same unit-gouging happened in November as well.

Jumpman !!wPhlyh8seG+

Jumpman !!wPhlyh8seG+ Fri 09 Dec 2016 19:09:42 No.88294541 Report

Quoted By:

>>88293787
> people trying to get into comics has this pre-conceived notion that they need to read EVERYTHING important about a character before they can truly start and that's too much effort.

The main selling point of DC Rebirth was that it was targeting longtime DC readers at the expense of newcomers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 19:10:19 No.88294552 Report

Quoted By: >>88294639 >>88294675

Batman is the worst book in the bat-line

How can it be so high when RHATO exists.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 19:12:29 No.88294600 Report

Quoted By: >>88294983

>>88291078
>6. AMAZING SPIDER-MAN: RENEW YOUR VOWS #1 (MAR)

Slott on suicide watch

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 19:13:55 No.88294639 Report

Quoted By:

>>88294552
It's the best of the batline which isn't saying much because the batline sucks... And Rebirth sucks too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 19:15:17 No.88294666 Report

Quoted By: >>88294718 >>88294765

Eh, given that IvX was given for free, I wonder why it's even charting?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 19:15:29 No.88294675 Report

Quoted By:

>>88294552
>he thinks RHATO is good

Just because it's not dogshit anymore doesn't mean it's good

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 19:16:31 No.88294696 Report

Quoted By:

>>88291078
Hold on a second, wasn't Avengers relaunched that month? IVX #0 got more orders than it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 19:17:33 No.88294718 Report

Quoted By: >>88294746

>>88294666
Stuff given for free still charts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 19:19:01 No.88294746 Report

Quoted By:

>>88294718
but that skews the statistics
also, marvel is giving away mosaic #2 and #3 for free, to match the sales of #1. It's just bullshit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 19:19:54 No.88294764 Report

Quoted By: >>88294930

How many more books is Marvel printing than DC?

was two times or three times as much?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 19:19:55 No.88294765 Report

Quoted By: >>88294808

>>88294666
it's almost like Diamond is fundamentally flawed.

But apparently retailers in a precarious business can't be trusted because they're all fanboys.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 19:22:02 No.88294808 Report

Quoted By:

>>88294765
but that's the thing, isn't it?
wasn't marvel supposed to be business, instead of charity?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 19:23:04 No.88294835 Report

Quoted By: >>88294939

If you can't see how this is Marvel's Convergence, (an event that used extraordinary sales goosing tactics in order to dump tons of unsellable books onto angry retailers) then you are a complete and total simp.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 19:28:01 No.88294930 Report

Quoted By:

>>88294764
They put a lot of their new launches in this month. People in this thread also forget that Renew Your Vows and Venom #1 had 1:1000 variants for their first issue launches and that the Diamond charts are for preorders, not neccesarily sales to walk-in customers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 19:28:27 No.88294939 Report

Quoted By:

>>88294835
outside of their events, their comics are flopping

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 19:30:37 No.88294983 Report

Quoted By:

>>88294600
I'm glad it's up there. I know it probably won't stay up there, but I'm just glad Peter and MJ are together. It's definitely more enjoyable than Clone Conspiracy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 19:31:03 No.88294992 Report

Quoted By: >>88295020

>Graphic novels monopolize publisher slates, retailer budgets in slow November

>Publishers always look to November as a time for graphic novels, and that was the case this month in what is almost certainly record fashion: Diamond Comic Distributors shipped 436 new graphic novels in November 2016 -- while on the periodical side, the market-leading publishers didn't increase their output to take advantage of a fifth shipping week.

>Those appear to be among the major factors contributing to what was, in overall terms, a disappointing month -- especially so since sales were off 4.25% versus a November last year that only had four shipping weeks. (While I'm a guest this weekend at Paradise City Comic Con, it's an unusual enough result that I took some time to look at it.) In the Direct Market, a better month for graphic novels doesn't always have to mean overall sales are down, but since only one in three dollars in comics shops comes from GNs, the category has more work to do to offset losses in periodicals.

> Before getting further into the possible explanations, here are the aggregate changes. Retailers ordered $49.89 million in new comics and graphic novels in the month, down from $52.1 million last November:
(see chart in link)

http://blog.comichron.com/2016/12/graphic-novels-monopolize-publisher.html

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 19:32:41 No.88295020 Report

Quoted By: >>88295050 >>88295108

>>88294992
>You can see right away a couple of important things. First, the dollar sales of new comics periodicals are off quite a lot more than the units are -- which suggests principally that the month's most popular offerings were lower-profile lower-priced titles. It also suggests what retailers have reported, that a number of specific Marvel titles have been receiving free overships of significant size. Monday's retail rankings will point to specific ones.

>Diamond sold 8.36 million new comics in November 2016, down from 8.91 million last year -- and that difference becomes more stark when you consider the number of weeks involved.
(another chart in link)

>As noted above, however, it's the release slates that have a lot to do with the numbers above. While publishers do not increase their periodical slates by 25% to accommodate a fourth week, they have in practice increased new offerings at least somewhat most such months. And by simple chance, late-shipping books from earlier in the year would get an additional week in which to appear. But what we find is that November's 518 new comics was actually a smaller number than we saw in four-week October!
(another chart)

i'm too lazy to post the charts

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 19:33:53 No.88295050 Report

Quoted By: >>88295088

>>88295020
>Marvel and DC released slightly fewer comics this month versus last -- and the 103 average new comics per week overall is pretty low by 2016 standards. Image's new comics and graphic novel slates were slimmer by a greater margin, offering 11 fewer new comics this November versus last November and -- in a departure from the rest of the market -- only nine new graphic novels, its smallest roster in at least two years.

>Other graphic novel publishers, by contrast, went to town -- with 45 new Viz titles in November as compared with October. Titan published two graphic novels in October; in November, the number was 18. And the "other" category ballooned. If this volume increase explains the big leap in graphic novel sales, it well ought to affect comics unit sales, with only so many dollars to go around.

>DC has now cycled through most of its returnable windows for its Rebirth launches, and while that could also be a contributing factor to lower aggregate unit sales, it does seem more that the decline was spread more across the market evenly, suggesting most of those effects hit in October's charts. The market shares:
(another chart)

>The impact of DC's lower average prices this year can be seen in the dollar-to-unit share gap -- and that, too, has shaped the year-to-year comparisons.

>Finally, the Top 10s. Two regular Batman issues led the comics charts

>And on the graphic novel charts, we see that while Image didn't offer many new titles, it took the top slot with Paper Dolls Vol. 2:

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 19:35:44 No.88295088 Report

Quoted By:

>>88295050
>There does seem to be a heavier than normal degree of deep discounting in the graphic novels category as publishers sold books to retailers at lower-than-usual prices, but that's not unusual for this time of year.

>Finally with regard to November, under the heading of unusual correlations that probably don't mean anything, across all United States presidential election years since and including 2000, when the party in the White House wins another term, November's comics periodical unit sales have gone up, while a switch in party has in every case coincided with a down month. There's only five cases to look at and it's likely a spurious correlation, given that the vast majority of shipments represented are based on orders placed before the election result was known -- and in 2000, even that wasn't known for sure in November. But it is an interesting conversational piece.

>One more month to go in 2016, and with November's lackluster performance, it now looks like the year will end slightly better than flat -- and perhaps just missing the 100 million copy mark for new comics periodical orders. A finish up around 2% would match 2008, the last year of a strong cycle before a three-year recessionary stretch in comics; publishers and retailers alike certainly hope the resemblance ends there. Time will tell...

John Jackson Miller has tracked the comics industry for more than 20 years, including a decade editing the industry's retail trade magazine; he is the author of several guides to comics, as well as more than a hundred comic books for various franchises

nobody ever bothers with the comichron blog though it is very interesting to see somebody who knows what he's talking about

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 19:36:46 No.88295107 Report

Quoted By: >>88295127

>>88294464
This is anecdotal evidence, not proof you meme loving faggot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 19:36:49 No.88295108 Report

Quoted By:

>>88295020
>>You can see right away a couple of important things. First, the dollar sales of new comics periodicals are off quite a lot more than the units are -- which suggests principally that the month's most popular offerings were lower-profile lower-priced titles. It also suggests what retailers have reported, that a number of specific Marvel titles have been receiving free overships of significant size. Monday's retail rankings will point to specific ones.

Well huh, they're noticing that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 19:37:50 No.88295127 Report

Quoted By: >>88295160

>>88295107
>I-It's not real because it's "anectodal" evidence

kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 19:38:40 No.88295139 Report

Quoted By:

>>88294454
> teen Deadman

Do we even know his age? He's old enough to be in professional basketball and have a trophy gf, I assumed he was late 20s.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 19:39:53 No.88295160 Report

Quoted By: >>88295264

>>88295127
It's as valid as the ex-wb employee claiming WW production is a mess.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 19:44:34 No.88295264 Report

Quoted By: >>88295348

>>88295160
>Comparing multiple non-anonymous retailers who know and report what's selling at their store with one anonymous ex-WB employee

kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 19:47:13 No.88295318 Report

Quoted By: >>88295449

WOW DC IS GETTING ASS BLASTED

A 12% MARKET SHARE LEAD IS BIGGER THAN ANY LEAD DC HAD DURING REBIRTH

THESE REBIRTH TITLES MUST BE TANKING LIKE A MOTHERFUCKER

HOPEFULLY DC WILL LEARN A LESSON AND STOP PUBLISHING SHITTY STORIES.

IF MARVEL SUCCESSFULLY REBOOTS THE X-MEN IT COULD GET REAL UGLY FOR DC

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 19:48:52 No.88295348 Report

Quoted By: >>88295381

>>88295264
The non-anonymous retailers have no more credibility than Diamond though.

As stated, it is highly likely that they are letting their fanboyism cloud their judgement, they're easier to bribe and there is no indication whatsoever that marvel counts the free comics as sales.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 19:49:52 No.88295363 Report

Quoted By: >>88295405 >>88295523

>>88291078
>Renew Your Vows made the top 10
Nice.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 19:50:31 No.88295381 Report

Quoted By: >>88295442

>>88295348
>T-They're just biased guys

kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 19:51:32 No.88295405 Report

Quoted By:

>>88295363
Probably have to wait a few months to see where it'll stay in the chart, I doubt it's going to stay in the Top 10 too long unless they actually do what DC did with Lois and Clark.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 19:53:11 No.88295442 Report

Quoted By: >>88295472

>>88295381
Just as biased as Rotten Tomatoes and Diamond.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 19:53:37 No.88295449 Report

Quoted By: >>88295566

>>88295318
>IF MARVEL SUCCESSFULLY REBOOTS THE X-MEN
so, DC is saved?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 19:54:36 No.88295472 Report

Quoted By: >>88295515

>>88295442
>I'm not from /tv/ guys, I'm really from /co/, watch me namedrop Diamond

Give it up, anon. No one is falling for it at this point.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 19:56:55 No.88295515 Report

Quoted By: >>88295520

>>88295472
For what?

I'm just pointing out how stupid you idiots sound when your best argument is a conspiracy that disney has paid off everyone that disagrees with you.

But once again, there's no reasoning with DCucks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 19:57:25 No.88295520 Report

Quoted By: >>88295593

>>88295515
>Using DCucks

Yep, definitely from /tv/

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 19:57:31 No.88295523 Report

Quoted By: >>88295565

>>88295363
Only because they gave it away for free
It'll be at 20k by issue 5

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 19:59:24 No.88295565 Report

Quoted By:

>>88295523
Did they? I know they gave out Mosaic and Solo iirc, but I didn't hear about Renew Your Vows being given out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 19:59:25 No.88295566 Report

Quoted By: >>88295682

>>88295449

Who knows. Some of the creative teams look promising. Any X-men title has the possibility of being a consistent top ten title.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 19:59:35 No.88295571 Report

Quoted By:

>>88291078
And once again Marvel and Batman rule the top 10, nothing surprising.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 20:00:35 No.88295593 Report

Quoted By: >>88295696

>>88295520
I might as well be from /d/, what the fuck do you care?

Can you argue against my point?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 20:00:57 No.88295601 Report

Quoted By:

http://www.comicsbeat.com/2017-may-be-a-rough-year-for-comics-retail-and-the-industry-or-not/

>Are comics sales slipping or stagnating as we enter 2017? Some signs point to yes, as you can see from the November sales figures released earlier today. While the sales decline earlier in the year has been reversed to a net positive thanks to the Rebirth surge, as retailers Joe Field of Flying Colors tweeted earlier this week, there is a sense of worry out there. Field is the creators of Free Comic Book Day, a former ComicsPRO board member and a long time voice of reason within the industry:

>"w/ 24 days left, a few 2016 #comicmarket thoughts.Year started w/ some uncertainty, followed by so much progress & hope. If the 2nd half of ’16 was good as the 1st, we’d all have been thrilled! But things went off the rails a bit. Our market somewhat relies on inertia, so unpredictable publishing schedules damage consumer & retailer confidence. There's so much great stuff being published, but nothing is a "best seller." #Comicmarket could use a monster hit right now. #Comics fans, your Local Comic Shop appreciates you & needs you now more than ever. FlyCo fans, you know I love you! Word on the street is there will be a round of #comics shop closings in early '17. Only the support of fans can prevent that! Now is NOT the time to "wait for the trade." Your local retailer wants advance orders for #comics series you're excited about reading. Goal is not to complain, but to spur ALL of us to work harder & smarter & plan to make '17 #comics best year ever! We have that power!"

>Field is far from the only retailer who has been expressing concerns of late. I went in to one of my locals the other day and the store manager put it very simply : “It’s bad!”

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 20:02:03 No.88295619 Report

Quoted By:

>>88291380
>>88291412
>>88291664
This much denial, holy shit.

Marvel has always been the more popular publisher even when it was going bankrupt. That even happened because of an internal misuse of money and not because of bad sales.

I'm a DCfag but DC will always be number 2. They're just not as popular nor attractive as Marvel for people, no matter how /co/ likes them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 20:03:26 No.88295648 Report

Quoted By:

>>88292230
>People are not hyped about DC superheroes the same way they are for Marvel's. To many, DC just means Batman.

Sadly this is the only truth.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 20:03:36 No.88295651 Report

Quoted By:

>>88293528

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 20:04:11 No.88295665 Report

Quoted By: >>88295704

>>88291078
> still gives shitty artists good books
> shills stupid books like suicide squad or teen titans over actually good books
> nothing happens: he book
> ruining manhattan hype with fucking abra kadabra

dc had it coming.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 20:04:55 No.88295682 Report

Quoted By:

>>88295566
>Some of the creative teams look promising
you probably didn't lurk in the threads, did you?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 20:05:35 No.88295696 Report

Quoted By:

>>88295593
If it was ONE anonymous retailer complaining about it you'd have a point. But at least five retailers on Twitter, some more different ones on Bleeding Cool (both the ones who Rich reports on and the ones who comment on their posts) and now Heidi MacDonald reporting in that things are bad for her comic shop (which matches up with what this retailer was saying about his Diamond rep reporting that other stores are having problems)

At some point this goes past "anecdotal" evidence and into "Gee, maybe there's something happening here."

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 20:05:47 No.88295704 Report

Quoted By:

>>88295665
literally all DC books except Batman have great artists

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 20:06:45 No.88295725 Report

Quoted By:

>>88294475
It's not like Gwenpool was an effortless thing.
They actually gave it a really good creative team, so there's more to it than just waifus.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2016 20:08:03 No.88295751 Report

Quoted By:

>>88292899
Reboots are definitely bad for these characters. It's a bad choice. When a character is doing back you just don't scrap everything and start anew, no matter how /co/ wants to push this meme. DC always does this when Superman isn't selling well, nad they have rebooted Superman twice in less than a decade. It's insane. First by doing New 52 Superman and then bringing Superdad again which is a reboot of sorts. I bet they'll reboot him again once Superdad stops selling well.

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