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Anonymous Thu 17 Nov 21:12:22 2016 No.87751781 View Reply Original Report

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Thors hammer is destroyed
Jane does not appear because of bifrost
Hiemdall has his sight taken away

Hel wants to disconnect the realms for the world tree

Hel is Loki's mother, and Friggas sister

Hulk is hulk for 90% of the film, him and Thor break open the "star world"

Thor learns that he's not actually Thor, he's Odinson, Thor is a god that existed eons ago that was trapped in the star world by Hel.

Thor regains his power after he's freed and helps kill Hel

Odin dies, odinson becomes the new asgard king.

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Anonymous Thu 17 Nov 2016 21:15:53 No.87751838 Report

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sounds pretty ballsy

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Anonymous Thu 17 Nov 2016 21:15:53 No.87751839 Report

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>>87751781
I can live with this

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Anonymous Thu 17 Nov 2016 21:18:35 No.87751881 Report

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>>87751781

Sounds pretty bullshit considering all we know thus far.

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Anonymous Thu 17 Nov 2016 21:18:41 No.87751882 Report

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>>87751781
>Hel is Loki's mother

Weird.

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Anonymous Thu 17 Nov 2016 21:20:27 No.87751917 Report

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>>87751781
Sounds like Chronicles of Riddick

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 17 Nov 2016 21:22:43 No.87751951 Report

Quoted By: >>87752124 >>87752174

>Hel
Who?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 17 Nov 2016 21:23:54 No.87751970 Report

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>>87751917
If it's half as ambitious and twice as successful as Chronicles of Riddick, it'll be amazing.

There were a lot of issues with Chronicles, but credit where credit is due they did a fucking amazing job with the epic scale and world-building in the film.

... then they fucked it all up rehashing Pitch Black in the third film.

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Anonymous Thu 17 Nov 2016 21:24:04 No.87751973 Report

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>>87751781
>Hel is Loki's mother
Triggered

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Anonymous Thu 17 Nov 2016 21:25:25 No.87752006 Report

Quoted By: >>87752475 >>87752740

But... Loki is Hel's mother!
He became impregnated by a witch's heart he ate. He also gave birth to Fenris the Wolf and Jormungand the Serpent.

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Anonymous Thu 17 Nov 2016 21:25:31 No.87752009 Report

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>>87751781
>No mention of an infinity gem
>No Doctor Strange
fake

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Anonymous Thu 17 Nov 2016 21:25:49 No.87752013 Report

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>>87751882
Isn't it the reverse in the myths? I don't know much about Marvel's Thor

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 17 Nov 2016 21:26:45 No.87752030 Report

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>>87751970
>then they fucked it all up rehashing Pitch Black in the third film.
Riddick was better as a small scale adventure, not some game of thrones shit. They brought the character back to where he belongs, scaring killers and being his own force of nature.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 17 Nov 2016 21:29:08 No.87752085 Report

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>>87752030
The first ~20% of the movie was great, the bits with him on his own recuperating and surviving... but as soon as he got to the merc station the entire movie basically became a scene-for-scene remake of Pitch Black.

Chronicles took the character in a different direction and was probably too ambitious for its own good... but at least it TRIED.

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Anonymous Thu 17 Nov 2016 21:31:27 No.87752124 Report

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>>87751951

Norse myth's equivalent to Hades.

But with tits.

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Anonymous Thu 17 Nov 2016 21:35:07 No.87752174 Report

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>>87751951

are you 10?

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Anonymous Thu 17 Nov 2016 21:41:52 No.87752322 Report

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>>87751781

>Thor learns that he's not actually Thor, he's Odinson
What
Hasn't he been called Thor for his entire life
How the fuck is he not Thor
Like you can't have a name if someone else has used it in the past?
That's stupid

Couldn't they at least have come up with a better name than Odinson?
I mean shit, Balder is a character in the Marvelverse, right? Isn't he also Odin's son?

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Anonymous Thu 17 Nov 2016 21:46:16 No.87752412 Report

Quoted By: >>87754236

>>87752013
It's the reverse in the myths. In the comics, it's... extremely complicated. Loki created Hela in a really roundabout way, but Hela is significantly older than Loki. Hela also doesn't have any parents as a result of the weird stable timeloop bullshit associated with her creation, so the closest thing she has to parents are Loki as her dad and herself as her mom.

You should read Gillen's Journey into Mystery. It's pretty good.

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Anonymous Thu 17 Nov 2016 21:46:56 No.87752426 Report

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>>87752322
Anon, Odinson is quite literally Thor's last name. Don't be an idiot.

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Anonymous Thu 17 Nov 2016 21:49:22 No.87752475 Report

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>>87752006
No, he fucked a female Jotun and it gave birth to the 3 you mentioned

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1 Thu 17 Nov 2016 21:55:39 No.87752594 Report

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>>87752009
Hiemdall gets his sight removed

He sees all because he IS the soul gem

"You're a destroyer odinson"

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Anonymous Thu 17 Nov 2016 21:56:15 No.87752609 Report

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>>87752426
How does that make it less stupid? I don't drop my first name just because I'm not the only person in the world who has it.

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Anonymous Thu 17 Nov 2016 21:57:40 No.87752640 Report

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Well, Angerboda is described as both a witch and a jotun.

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1 Thu 17 Nov 2016 22:01:23 No.87752718 Report

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>>87752322
Female Thor is still called Thor

She posses the power of THOR

So her name would be Thor foster.
The mjolnir was forged way before Thor was born.

In the first Thor movie, we see him in his hammerless form, he's got average asgardian strength. The hammer enchants him with Thor powers.

Vision was also granted thors powers in the final battle of age of ultron.

There was debate over at marvel whether or not the hammer should be a gem, and they agreed hiemdall should have a gem instead

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Anonymous Thu 17 Nov 2016 22:02:12 No.87752740 Report

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>>87752006
>>87752475
Those are two different stories.
The older one is a poem, Hynduljod, that describes Loki giving birth to unspecified monsters after digging an "evil woman"'s heart out of her funeral pyre and eating it, possibly to keep her from resurrecting.

The other source, the prose Edda, tells of Loki's jotunn-wife Angrboda with which he had Hel, the Fenris wolf and the Midgard serpent.

It's often thought that they're variations on the same story and that the evil woman is Angrboda (and possibly yet another character, Gullveig, who instigated the Aesir-Vanir war) but nobody knows for sure.

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Anonymous Thu 17 Nov 2016 22:05:45 No.87752819 Report

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>>87752718
That's also stupid because even if you accept the retcon that Thor is a title then why the fuck doesn't Thor-son-of-Odin have a first name

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Anonymous Thu 17 Nov 2016 22:07:12 No.87752852 Report

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Just to add, Loki possessed witch like abilities inherited from Hel.

He also becomes a full frost giant witxh with the help of hel, who promises to bring frigga back from the "death realm" (constellation cluster) if he helps take destroy the world tree. Then a twist explains that Hel is actually his mother, and the sister of frigga.

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Anonymous Thu 17 Nov 2016 22:08:05 No.87752871 Report

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>>87751781
>Hel is Loki's mother
This is retarded.

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1 Thu 17 Nov 2016 22:13:27 No.87752985 Report

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>>87752819
It doesn't make sense, but that's what they're doing.

And they are doing something similar with black panther. The panther is a mantle that's passed down the family line.

Valkyrie is aligned with Hel for about 1/3 of the movie

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Anonymous Thu 17 Nov 2016 22:22:40 No.87753180 Report

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>>87752718
>Vision was also granted thors powers in the final battle of age of ultron.
>There was debate over at marvel whether or not the hammer should be a gem, and they agreed hiemdall should have a gem instead

[citation needed]
Other source than your ass, I mean

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Anonymous Thu 17 Nov 2016 22:29:15 No.87753345 Report

Quoted By: >>87754273 >>87754341

>>87751781

>this is just setting up a future Whor movie

ugh

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Anonymous Thu 17 Nov 2016 22:30:49 No.87753384 Report

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>>87752985
>And they are doing something similar with black panther. The panther is a mantle that's passed down the family line.

black panther as always been a mantle passed on, fucking casualbaby

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Anonymous Thu 17 Nov 2016 22:53:42 No.87753982 Report

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>>87751781
>Thor learns that he's not actually Thor, he's Odinson, Thor is a god that existed eons ago that was trapped in the star world by Hel.
Faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaake.
They simplified all the mystic shit to lolancientaliens for a reason you plonker.

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Anonymous Thu 17 Nov 2016 22:57:26 No.87754093 Report

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>>87751781
>Odinson

Gotta get that book synergy, now we can keep femthor

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Anonymous Thu 17 Nov 2016 22:58:03 No.87754116 Report

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>>87751781
>Odinson
Literally Odin's son. It took him a fuckton of years to get it. Jesus, he's thick.

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Anonymous Thu 17 Nov 2016 22:59:03 No.87754134 Report

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>>87751781
Aren't the Asgardians allowed to win one battle? They're a futuristic race whose science are so advanced that it's practically magic and all we see of them is getting their asses kicked.

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Anonymous Thu 17 Nov 2016 23:02:38 No.87754236 Report

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>>87752013
Loki & Hela would call each other daughter & father whenever they crossed paths in the classic comics as an ode to the mythology but when Gillen came along 5 years ago he saw an opportunity for a plot point (see >>87752412)
and said that was just them havin a laff those dumb mortals silly stories.
>sup "dad" *pffft*

...Then massive Gillen fangirl Margaruite Bennette grabbed a pen and for some confounded reason went NUH UH THAT'S JUST HEADCANON (literally, the word made it to the printed page) so I don't even know anymore.

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Anonymous Thu 17 Nov 2016 23:03:46 No.87754273 Report

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>>87753345
In that case, I hope Whor tanks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 17 Nov 2016 23:06:31 No.87754341 Report

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>>87753345
Literally why.
The comics follow the movies ,not the other way around. And Jane's fucked off from the latter.
If anything Whor'll die by next November for synergy's sake.

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Anonymous Thu 17 Nov 2016 23:07:48 No.87754375 Report

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>>87752609
No, anon, I'm saying you're an idiot for not realising that this is obviously fake because of how stupid that is.

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Anonymous Thu 17 Nov 2016 23:16:31 No.87754581 Report

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>movies pandering to the current Marvel shit heap comics instead of the other way around
This is beyond fake.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 17 Nov 2016 23:27:00 No.87754829 Report

Quoted By: >>87754891

So Thor is who mantels Thor?
Is this Elder Scrolls lore now or what?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 17 Nov 2016 23:29:15 No.87754891 Report

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>>87754829
Funny you should say. I got interested in Elder Scrolls specifically because someone compared how its lore works similarly to how Thor lore works.

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Anonymous Fri 18 Nov 2016 00:50:34 No.87756754 Report

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...So are they seriously gonna go with the female Thor thing in the movies? Natalie Portman is gonna be Thor?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Nov 2016 00:53:56 No.87756862 Report

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>>87751781
That all sounds fucking stupid and not Thor. But then again, what was I to expect from the producers of the first two.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Nov 2016 00:54:05 No.87756868 Report

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Assuming this is real, it's an obvious setup for Whor down the line

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Nov 2016 01:20:10 No.87757718 Report

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>>87751781
This lacks Hobo Odin.

AKA Hobodin.

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