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Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 05:08:39 2016 No.87360313 View Reply Original Report

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What went wrong if anything?

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Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 05:14:49 No.87360423 Report

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>>87360313
Winnick demonstrated that "third time's the charm" when it came to crafting this red hood story. He first did it in his comic series "under the hood" He then modified it with "Red Hood Lost Days", and finally decided to settle upon the film adaptation "Under the Red Hood".

In terms of presentation, world design and character design were spot on, the music was solid, and all the actors gave their A-game (Ackles, Greenwood, and DiMaggio getting major props).

Only issue is that it was a little to convenient near the end with Jason and Bruce ending up in the exact building where the Joker was stashed. I mean, you could make the argument Jason led them there, but come on. Everybody has a breaking point where they same this is bullshit and that's mine. Also banking on Black Mask to release Joker as apposed to the other dozen or so psychos locked up in Arkham was another moment of plot convenience.

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Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 05:55:35 No.87361252 Report

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>>87360313
Some of the animation was meh

It also got very obviously bloodless towards the end

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Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 06:11:30 No.87361590 Report

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The movie was complete shit and Winick is a talentless hack.

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Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 06:38:28 No.87362045 Report

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>>87360313
The CGI for the car chase is awful, as these things usually are, and the bloodlessness of the violence breaks the suspension of disbelief a few times; such as early on when those thugs are taken out with a high powered sniper rifle and there's no visible entry wound or anything.

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Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 06:41:28 No.87362086 Report

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>>87360313
i liked it,
but i have to agree with my fellow /co/mrades, the lack of blood, from gunshots and especially the fight with Batman in the end, was pretty lackluster.

other than that, it was a damn fine film

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Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 06:56:45 No.87362247 Report

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>>87362045
>YFW Red Hood electrocutes/Explodes that dude's head

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Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 07:05:46 No.87362373 Report

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>>87360423
>innick demonstrated that "third time's the charm" when it came to crafting this red hood story.
I watched the movie first and then went back and read the comic. The stories are honestly pretty much identical; the movie just cuts out some fluff and gives the Joker some of Black Mask's scenes.

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Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 07:11:07 No.87362445 Report

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>>87360313
>called Red Hood
>doesn't wear a red hood

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Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 07:40:04 No.87362891 Report

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Come on, it's the best Batman animated movie after Mask of the Phantasm

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Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 07:49:52 No.87363040 Report

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>>87360313
I loved how it explores the justification for capital punishment

How the Joker does so many horrible things to people, including "killing" Robing, leaving Barbara Gordon a paraplegic, and murdering various people yet Batman always brings him to justice even though he knows he won't even go to real prison, he simply gets put in Arkham.

This starts a dialogue; is Batman actually doing the world harm by NOT killing the Joker? How many innocent lives have to be lost before it's enough?

This is also explored in The Killing Joke

Was the last panel the point where the Joker finally broke the bat and had done something so horrible that Batman decided to end him?

Or did Batman take him in "by the book" and he simply stopped laughing as he was dragged off?

It's open to interpretation but it's very heavily implied it was the former.

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Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 08:20:47 No.87363454 Report

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>>87363040
Moore himself stated batman didn't kill the joker in killing joke

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Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 09:33:34 No.87364111 Report

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>>87360313
What went wrong were the Red Hood comics that came afterward. They couldn't keep him as an antagonist if he got his own ongoing, so they passed him off to a hack writer who ripped him away from all that made the character interesting, and repurposed him as his pet husbando

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Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 09:45:47 No.87364201 Report

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>>87360313
How would Jason respond to his situation in the injustice universe?

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Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 09:48:09 No.87364219 Report

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>>87364201
by whining

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Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 09:53:02 No.87364246 Report

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>>87364219
To Talia?

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Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 10:09:57 No.87364356 Report

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So you don't know or think anything went wrong but you just had to make a shitty thread? You must have a cool life faggot.

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Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 10:47:44 No.87364622 Report

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>>87360313
Anime tier pretentious garbage.

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Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 10:56:16 No.87364680 Report

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>>87363040
>This starts a dialogue; is Batman actually doing the world harm by NOT killing the Joker? How many innocent lives have to be lost before it's enough?

Is it Batman's responsibility to kill the Joker? Or should the justice system recognize the massive flaw in itself that allows the Joker to escape justice and fix it?

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Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 11:02:57 No.87364724 Report

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See that just makes both sides responsible and doesn't exonerate Bat-man for several reasons, the biggest being he is defying the law as a vigilante so he is a huge hypocrite to honor the very laws he breaks every time he puts on the costume

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Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 11:13:19 No.87364793 Report

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>>87364246
And behold, Damian is born.

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