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Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 11:41:04 2016 No.87092360 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>87092381 >>87092678 >>87092694 >>87093266 >>87093657 >>87093723 >>87095158 >>87095223 >>87095786

Trailers:
>Film seems dark, tension-filled, adequate levels of drama
>Ultron himself seems capable, menacing, formidable, threatening

Film:
>It's a Saturday morning Avengers cartoon stretched out to 2 hours
>QUIPS! JOKES! MEMES!
>Ultron is a cardboard piece of shit who can't do anything
>Film is light hearted and the villain never poses a real threat

Why did this happen?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 11:44:32 No.87092381 Report

Quoted By: >>87094676

>>87092360
Whedon has a hard time being sincere as is, and I don't think he really wanted to make this film anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 11:49:26 No.87092407 Report

Quoted By: >>87092412 >>87094676

>trailers made by the marketing department
>movie made by Whedon
It's simple.

The movie was never going to be serious, I don't know why people were fooled. It's still fucking Joss Whedon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 11:50:57 No.87092412 Report

Quoted By: >>87092505 >>87092600

>>87092407
Thing is, Whedon can be serious. Firefly and Serenity had a lot of levity, but the overall tone was serious, especially in the second case.

With Age of Ultron he directed/wrote like a parody of himself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 12:06:46 No.87092505 Report

Quoted By: >>87092600 >>87094029

>>87092412
Buffy and Angel also had some seriously dark episodes.
The Body is perhaps the darkest TV-ep I've seen

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 12:08:43 No.87092521 Report

Quoted By:

Trailers are to get the nerds hype

Normies will see it either which way and probably don't care about trailers

Make the trailer seem like what nerds will want so they buy a ticket, make the movie appeal to the lowest common denominator, make the most cash you can

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 12:22:40 No.87092600 Report

Quoted By: >>87092636 >>87094060

>>87092505
>>87092412
Whedon fans are truly delusional. He never was good. Firefly was cancelled for a reason but then it was memed into being better than it was.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 12:28:32 No.87092636 Report

Quoted By: >>87093994

>>87092600

>Buffy
>Angel
>Firefly
>Speed
>Toy Story
>Cabin in the Woods

Stop being a faggot. He's not the flawless genius his fanboys pretend he is but his work is generally pretty good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 12:33:49 No.87092678 Report

Quoted By: >>87093204 >>87094051

>>87092360
>the villain never poses a real threat

They literally can't stop him from doing anything he's setting out to do until the very end of the film.

They don't even really stop him completely, just minimize the damage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 12:36:06 No.87092694 Report

Quoted By: >>87093568 >>87095662

>>87092360
So your complaint is that the trailer is different? Nothing else, but the trailer was different? Does that mean you would have liked it, if the trailer represented the film correctly?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 13:39:06 No.87093204 Report

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>>87092678
>Tries to kill the unprepared avengers after he is born, fails but takes the scepter
>He tried to do loki's thing from avengers and set the hulk free to kill them and FAILS
>Next time they meet they take vision and the gem away from him.
>Being a powerfull A.I with hydra resources, all he had was an army of extremely expendable robots who do not pose a threat to any of the avengers, and unlike the chitaurih, his army is finite.
>get's owned by thor, visión, Iron man, and hulk
He's a hannah barbera-tier villian

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 13:47:23 No.87093266 Report

Quoted By: >>87093309 >>87093471

>>87092360
>Why did this happen?

to make a successful family movie and not some deep and edgy piece of crap and IT WORKED

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 13:51:59 No.87093309 Report

Quoted By: >>87093328

>>87093266
anti-intellectual pls

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 13:53:21 No.87093320 Report

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>not liking quips
>not liking avengers earth mightiest heroes
get a load of this guy

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 13:54:37 No.87093328 Report

Quoted By: >>87093346 >>87093471

>>87093309
>any capeshit
>intellectual
Maybe if you're 14.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 13:56:03 No.87093346 Report

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>>87093328
Back to the reservation, Indiean.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 14:10:44 No.87093471 Report

Quoted By: >>87093540

>>87093328
There's no reason a cape movie can't be intellectual.

>>87093266
People like to pull this one out to defend dogshit. But there are dark kids movies, some even released by Disney, as well as shonen that utilizes every tone imaginable; legitimately well written children's media doesn't need this excuse.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 14:17:17 No.87093540 Report

Quoted By: >>87093633 >>87093760 >>87095337

>>87093471
and BvS tried dark and edgy and look at where that got it. Funny how when things cater to your dark and edgy taste the majority of people see it as dogshit

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 14:18:04 No.87093544 Report

Quoted By: >>87093615 >>87093644

so why is it so important that a movie be a grimdark, melodrama, devoid of quips, and require the world to be seriously jacked up good?

and why is a movie that is noblebright, light hearted, funny, and allows the world to keep on turning bad?

being grimdark doesnt automatically make you a good movie

by all measures not susceptibl to "nuh-uh" arguments it wasnt a "bad" movie, it made a billion dollars, it has a pretty good score, and people generally liked it, the biggest complaint was that it "wasnt as good as the first" and that "it was more of the same", these are complaints directed to bloated expectations rather that its quality, which people generally consider good, /co/ and personal anecdotes notwithstanding

sounds like the movie is different, and you hate things being different

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 14:20:34 No.87093568 Report

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>>87092694

Pretty obvious he's saying AoU should have been representative of the initial trailer. Don't think anyone would enjoy a comedic trailer whatsoever.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 14:26:19 No.87093615 Report

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>>87093544
Spoken like a manchild.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 14:28:32 No.87093633 Report

Quoted By: >>87093692

>>87093540
>the majority of people see it as dogshit
Look at the audience score you absolute amoeba.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 14:29:45 No.87093644 Report

Quoted By: >>87093689

>>87093544
>noblebright

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 14:30:52 No.87093657 Report

Quoted By:

>>87092360
>QUIPS! JOKES! MEMES!
It's Whedon.
Didn't you ever watch Buffy?
The guy can only do full on melodrama like in some Angel episodes or just quips and jokes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 14:34:55 No.87093689 Report

Quoted By:

>>87093644
sorry, i spend too much time on /tg/, but yeah noblebright isnt inheretly good or bad, and neither is grimdark

they are more like tools, whose use is only as good as the person using them

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 14:35:01 No.87093692 Report

Quoted By: >>87093722

>>87093633
Im looking and it LOOKS like funny quips takes the gold

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 14:37:03 No.87093722 Report

Quoted By:

>>87093692
its popular, /co/ hates popular things

ironically, this makes them more slaved to the system than your average viewer

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 14:37:03 No.87093723 Report

Quoted By: >>87093735

>>87092360
>dark
>tension-filled
>drama

I want edgefags off my board. Fuck off Snyder.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 14:37:48 No.87093735 Report

Quoted By:

>>87093723
b8

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 14:39:35 No.87093760 Report

Quoted By: >>87093831

>>87093540
The dark tone wasn't Yawn of Justice's problem.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 14:45:49 No.87093831 Report

Quoted By: >>87094190

>>87093760
Boring is a non criticism.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 14:48:35 No.87093870 Report

Quoted By:

You posted this same thread on /tv/. You should really get a job so you have something else to do all day.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 15:01:25 No.87093994 Report

Quoted By: >>87094103

>>87092636
Toy Story is the only thing here that isn't garbage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 15:04:26 No.87094029 Report

Quoted By:

Welcome to Whedon, a man who claims to love horror, yet do nothing but constantly make fun of it.
>>87092505
>The Body is perhaps the darkest TV-ep I've seen
That means you have never seen much TV.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 15:06:00 No.87094051 Report

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>>87092678
>beaten by jarvis in an ai battle
>can't kill scientists when he tries
>gets his super body stolen and it's given to jarvis
>vision shuts down his ability to escape into the internet seconds after fighting
>has the opportunity to leave but decides to circle back in a quinjet and manages to only kill the one person he shouldn't have been able to have killed
>gets punked by the hulk

His threat and victories were overshadowed by his incompetence and the fact that he was Tony 2.0, right down to the need to fuck things up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 15:06:39 No.87094060 Report

Quoted By:

>>87092600
>Firefly was cancelled for a reason
Yes, and that reason was that all the episodes were aired out of order because the network was fucking retarded
I don't like Whedon and what he did to Ultron, but don't you dare say Firefly was canceled because it was bad

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 15:11:40 No.87094103 Report

Quoted By: >>87094169

>>87093994
Your post is the only thing here that's garbage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 15:17:08 No.87094169 Report

Quoted By:

>>87094103
No, that's your taste.
Go jerk off to your idiotic nostalgia trash and a shitty "HORROR MOVIES ARE STUPID GUISE XD" garbage flick.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 15:18:47 No.87094190 Report

Quoted By: >>87094301

>>87093831
Bad editing, weak pacing, shallow characters with inexplicable or nonexistent motivations (a two minute speech about Lex's daddy issues dies not justify the character's existence) and a plot that meanders through a series of set piece vignettes in order to culminate in a slavish recreation of the fight scene from Dark Knight Returns are all valid critic

It's three hours of noise pretending to be deep and meaningful; which singularly failed to impress critics and fell short of the studio's box office projections; and, in a passive-aggressive fit of pique, the director's answer to these criticisms was to make the movie an hour longer.isms, however.

Boring? Boring isn't even half of it, this movie was outright exhausting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 15:26:33 No.87094301 Report

Quoted By: >>87094646

>>87094190
I never saw anything like it. It legit felt like watching a B rater movie with good cinematography and a huge budget. Apart from the shots and the effects, EVERYTHING, script, acting, composition, EVERYTHING was garbage. Like, who did they use as a test audience?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 15:51:29 No.87094646 Report

Quoted By:

>>87094301
>test audience?
That... is why you fail.
Keep watching BvS till you get it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 15:54:37 No.87094676 Report

Quoted By:

>>87092381
>>87092407
Whedon was obviously under the studio's controlling thumb and that resulted in this mess.

I haven't even see the trailer for the first Avengers movie yet, I heard it was good through word of mouth. Wanna know why? Because it was actually good. Whedon made that, he couldn't made something great again. It's clear had little breathing space and whenever he got a gasp of air, he nervously used it to make a cheap whedon joke- but a nervous one, that isn't even funny. As if to tell us, "hey guys, it's Joss Whedon baby! This movie isn't being ruined by assholes at all! Everything is fine!! :D"

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Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 16:25:00 No.87095066 Report

Quoted By: >>87095105

>Trailer looked like cringe shit
>Movie will be cringe shit

Marvels becoming consistent at least

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 16:27:20 No.87095105 Report

Quoted By: >>87095277

>>87095066
its funny how easily they blow Dc out of the box office with that cringe shit. Its like they dont even try

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 16:31:01 No.87095158 Report

Quoted By:

>>87092360
I'm pretty damn sure you're trolling, considering the villain was far from light-hearted and was planning to extinct the Earth with a man made meteor.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 16:32:04 No.87095169 Report

Quoted By:

>this turns out to be true for Logan
>Are We There Yet? with grumpy Logan, adorable but mysterious X-23, and lovable mentor Xavier
>mfw

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 16:35:32 No.87095223 Report

Quoted By:

>>87092360
>MCU villain
>capable, menacing, formidable, threatening
Having such expectations was your first mistake.

Even in Netflix series they can't make their villains threatening, why should their more family friendly stuff be any different?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 16:38:53 No.87095277 Report

Quoted By: >>87095639

>>87095105
Remember that time marvel made a critical failure cross $750 million without china?

Nah

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 16:42:57 No.87095337 Report

Quoted By: >>87095403 >>87095588 >>87095758

>>87093540

Except it's been proven you can do dark and edgy and be successful, ie nolan batman movies. People like me hated BvS cause the writing was shallow, try-hard and just uninspiring.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 16:48:35 No.87095403 Report

Quoted By:

>>87095337
Only one of those was good, though.
Make of that what you will.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 17:00:51 No.87095588 Report

Quoted By: >>87095629 >>87095655

>>87095337
No, you hated it because it bored you. You are a pleb.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 17:03:38 No.87095629 Report

Quoted By: >>87095643

>>87095588
>getting bored because the writing was shallow, try-hard and just uninspiring means he's a pleb
You're allowed to enjoy trash and have different opinions from other people, you know.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 17:04:19 No.87095639 Report

Quoted By:

>>87095277
too bad it barely turned a profit even with that. At least the costume is more popular than the movie

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 17:04:25 No.87095643 Report

Quoted By: >>87095666

>>87095629
It wasn't trash though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 17:05:36 No.87095655 Report

Quoted By: >>87095674

>>87095588
It was a poorly written, poorly edited piece of shit. Stop clinging to goddamned anything that allows you to consider yourself smart

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 17:06:05 No.87095662 Report

Quoted By:

>>87092694
You're a pretty stupid person.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 17:06:15 No.87095666 Report

Quoted By: >>87095691

>>87095643
That's all you took from that?

It's my opinion that it's trash, for legitimate reasons at that, but it doesn't mean you're not allowed to like it even though it's trash
That anon isn't a pleb for disliking something for similar reasons to my dislike of the movie.

You're a pleb for thinking your opinion is the one and only correct one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 17:06:35 No.87095674 Report

Quoted By: >>87095728 >>87095731

>>87095655
>poorly edited
You don't know what makes editing good or bad.
You are regurgitating memes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 17:07:38 No.87095691 Report

Quoted By: >>87095723

>>87095666
>even though it's trash
It's not though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 17:09:32 No.87095723 Report

Quoted By: >>87095772

>>87095691
It really is, though.
It's fucking dreadful.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 17:09:44 No.87095728 Report

Quoted By: >>87095785

>>87095674
anon. They had to fix the movie with the dvd release. it was an editing issue and a cash grab for idiots to buy the blu ray

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 17:10:01 No.87095731 Report

Quoted By: >>87095785

>>87095674
If a scene only makes sense when you watch the uncut Ultimate Edition in which every scene drags out far longer than the pacing calls for in order deliver vital exposition then, yes, the movie is poorly edited.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 17:11:33 No.87095758 Report

Quoted By:

>>87095337
>Nolan films
>films
Whenever this argument comes up, I have me a giggle. Suddenly you fags pretend the meme factory doesn't exist. The bane memes in particular, exist because of how poorly executed the movie is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 17:12:36 No.87095772 Report

Quoted By: >>87095810

>>87095723
Nah.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 17:13:31 No.87095785 Report

Quoted By: >>87095848

>>87095728
>>87095731
If you couldn't plainly understand the movie in theaters then you have brain problems.
Seriously, I hope you guys are just fucking around.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 17:13:33 No.87095786 Report

Quoted By:

>>87092360
it always happens

Iron Man 3 did it
Thor 2 did it
now Doctor Strange is doing it

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 17:14:56 No.87095810 Report

Quoted By: >>87095816 >>87095820 >>87096166

>>87095772
Yeah and you should feel bad for liking it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 17:15:22 No.87095816 Report

Quoted By:

>>87095810
nope

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 17:15:43 No.87095820 Report

Quoted By:

>>87095810
But I feel great.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 17:17:58 No.87095848 Report

Quoted By: >>87096074

>>87095785
> understanding a crappy movie

Everyone understood it was a poorly written movie. You don't have to be smart to figure that out.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 17:33:18 No.87096074 Report

Quoted By:

>>87095848

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 17:37:04 No.87096166 Report

Quoted By:

>>87095810
falling for b8 this hard

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