>>86034938Your examples are weak as hell.
Whale beachings?
Dogs from the 19th century?
Animals give their lives, if willingly, to the future.
Your male spiders give their lives because their proteins and fats will make their children greater.
That's not suicide, that's being proactive.
Outcast apes and rabbits and shit are zoo type animals.
Those with no chance of escaping.
They live that long and their bodies realize that their biological imperative (i.e. having babies) can't happen. So they kill themselves.
You're just proving what I've been saying.
The bottom line for all life is the biological imperative.
Animals kill themselves when they either have no mates or not enough food to raise offspring.
Humans have no children when both are available.
That means we can override our programming. That means we are sentient.
No other animal does this