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Anonymous Wed 17 Aug 06:46:12 2016 No.85540783 View Reply Original Report

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For a change, let's list the positives of diversifying comic characters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Aug 2016 06:50:32 No.85540828 Report

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>>85540783
If it is a legacy character it adds to the hero's family.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Aug 2016 06:52:29 No.85540863 Report

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Why is Spider Woman there?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Aug 2016 06:55:40 No.85540920 Report

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>>85540783
Am I the only one who wants to fug Miles?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Aug 2016 07:01:11 No.85541004 Report

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>>85540783
Why should we when the only positive thing you've listed in that picture is Miles, and to a lesser extent Laura who was doing just fine without the name change.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Aug 2016 07:02:22 No.85541017 Report

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>>85540783
>any of those
>positive
Here's your (You)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Aug 2016 07:03:09 No.85541029 Report

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Captain Falcon got Sam off the edge of backburner/b-list/forgotten. His book is pretty good. I still think he should lose the shield and upgrade his wings with projectiles and white stripes.
>>85540920
If his bed game is anything like his personality or stories that is the most uneventful lay anyone has ever had.

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Anonymous Wed 17 Aug 2016 07:13:18 No.85541203 Report

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>>85540863
Lesbianed, obviously.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Aug 2016 07:14:13 No.85541218 Report

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>>85540863
Because /co/ thinks that a pregnant woman existing is political.
But the vilification of the female reproductive system somehow isn't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Aug 2016 07:17:05 No.85541266 Report

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>>85541017
Fuck off, you meme-moron.
Come back when you have more to contribute than a shitpost.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Aug 2016 07:25:37 No.85541410 Report

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>>85541266
>anything that doesn't agree with me is a shitpost
Much easier than going through them one by one.

>Hawkeye
Closest thing to a decent legacy, clusterfucked by no one being able to decide what to do with either of them other than "they're both idiots"

>Sniktbubette
Trashed all previous characterization of Laura, went full Bendis

>Captain Falcon
Stopped being his own hero and Cap's partner, will now be known as black Cap

>Miles
Literally the exact same stories as Ultimate Pete except his skin is darker

>Spider-Woman
I don't understand why this is being claimed as diversity. Because she's a mother now?

>Whor
Everyone's on stupid pills - the book

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Aug 2016 07:32:34 No.85541543 Report

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>>85541203

I haven't kept tabs on marvel for like 6 years. Are these two actually gay/a couple? I see them paired but it's always fan stuff.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Aug 2016 07:36:42 No.85541599 Report

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>>85541410
but you hate women and live with your parents and go on pol
i dont like you leave please

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Anonymous Wed 17 Aug 2016 07:37:46 No.85541620 Report

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>>85541543
It's a shop

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Aug 2016 07:41:12 No.85541674 Report

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>>85541410
Hitler's buttboi there (>>85541017 ) just posted mockery of someone asking for positive posts in their thread about positive aspects to comic characters... on the board devoted to Comics and Cartoons.
That is shitposting by the definition of the chan's rules, in direct effort to undermine the posted objective of the board and undermine the posted objective of the thread.
And now >>85541410 has compounded that intentionally disruptive rule violation.
This is not a /pol/ youth rally. This is shitposting in direct violation of the rules and these trolls can be reported and hopefully banned for this behavior.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Aug 2016 07:44:01 No.85541717 Report

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>>85541674
(You)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Aug 2016 07:45:45 No.85541751 Report

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Isn't Carol the least Diverse Captain Marvel

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Aug 2016 07:47:18 No.85541789 Report

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>>85541674
>getting so butthurt you actually report someone
wew lad

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Aug 2016 07:49:51 No.85541829 Report

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>>85540783
Best thing about diversifying characters: /co/ gets more butthurt than Kyle Rayner after a night with Bueno

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Anonymous Wed 17 Aug 2016 07:50:29 No.85541841 Report

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>>85541751
Carol's not in the picture, and there's been ~four straight white guys who have been Captain Marvel. Also >>85541203

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Anonymous Wed 17 Aug 2016 07:52:30 No.85541876 Report

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>>85540783

It saves me money.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Aug 2016 07:52:51 No.85541882 Report

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>>85541789
>Wanting a thread to not be trolled to death so much that you report rule violations. As you are obligated to do in some instances.

Wooowooohoo, "lad".

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Aug 2016 07:52:58 No.85541885 Report

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Ms Marvel was a good book and made use of the diversity within the story rather than just tacking it on for brownie points.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Aug 2016 07:53:08 No.85541888 Report

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>>85541841
Phylla Vell was a dude?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Aug 2016 07:54:47 No.85541910 Report

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>>85541841
>four straight white guys
>pink skinned Kree
>white
They're literally the niggers of the Kree man, the fuck you going on about?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Aug 2016 07:55:51 No.85541932 Report

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3 of these are a good idea

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Aug 2016 07:56:31 No.85541947 Report

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>>85541910
Can we even count aliens as white

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Aug 2016 07:57:00 No.85541955 Report

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thor has some great art

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Aug 2016 07:58:57 No.85541980 Report

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>>85540783
I like that Logan took a break for a while.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Aug 2016 08:00:04 No.85541998 Report

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>>85541947
No. In fact, Carol is the first white Captain Marvel. Mar-Vell and Noh-Varr were Kree, Genis and Phyla were Kree/Eternal hybrids, Hulkling is a Kree/Skrull hybrid, Khn'nr was a Skrull, and Monica is black

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Aug 2016 08:01:03 No.85542016 Report

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>>85540783
People who don't tead comics won't complain on the internet

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Aug 2016 08:02:49 No.85542041 Report

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>>85541947
Why not?
Superman's recognized as a white male rolemodel. Nobody questions his race because he's an alien, or his gender for that matter. The standard of race is and always has been the perception of the observer because racial definitions have always been subjective.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Aug 2016 08:03:27 No.85542053 Report

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>>85541841
Four straight white guys? Where are you getting these numbers? There was the lesbian daughter of the real captain, and her blue brother, then Monica (who did a shit ton better job of it than Carol has so far) and then Noh-var.

So two white guys, Mar-vell, and Noh-var.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Aug 2016 08:04:15 No.85542060 Report

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So a few years from now will this be known as the era of diversification throat shoving or will it just be the start?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Aug 2016 08:05:55 No.85542086 Report

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>>85541674
Go back to fucking tumblr if you get triggered so easily

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Aug 2016 08:07:05 No.85542102 Report

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>>85541980
He's trapped in a living death of solidified molten adamantium.
It's not a tropical vacation.

His two replacements aren't doing half bad though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Aug 2016 08:08:57 No.85542132 Report

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>>85540783
Positives?
All the money saved since dropping this shit.

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Anonymous Wed 17 Aug 2016 08:10:13 No.85542161 Report

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>>85541882

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Anonymous Wed 17 Aug 2016 08:25:38 No.85542398 Report

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>>85541218
>pregnant women
>fighting crime
>while pregnant

Is it cheaper than an abortion?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Aug 2016 08:42:09 No.85542605 Report

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>>85541203
Wow... I really want this to be canon as fuck. I want Carol to come home to Jess and their kid, talking about their day. I want them to act like a normal couple, worrying about their family rather than doing the Bendis thing of talking about how they are diverse.

This would be the kind of representation that I would fucking love. When the protagonists of these books are people, not soapboxs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Aug 2016 08:43:06 No.85542615 Report

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>>85540783
Preggo is hot as fuck.,

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Anonymous Wed 17 Aug 2016 09:04:07 No.85542890 Report

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>>85542605
It helps that their past few romances have been awful disasters. Actually, wasn't that part of the rationale for Iceman?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Aug 2016 09:25:27 No.85543104 Report

Quoted By: >>85544769 >>85544882

>>85540783
the only bad ones are Captain Falcoln and Miles
add to good list, Gwepool, Sam Alexander, Kamala, New Mutants, Night Thrasher, kidclops

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Aug 2016 09:26:28 No.85543119 Report

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Anyone have that one trippy splash page from Spiderwoman? she had a great artist, dude who did Axis: Hobgoblin

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Aug 2016 09:29:24 No.85543151 Report

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>>85542890
Yep. But difference is there is enough ambiguity to their relationship that if it became canon no one care. With Bobby, it was clear that he was straight, he was just not mature enough to continue a relationship.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Aug 2016 09:45:58 No.85543314 Report

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>>85541829
Like that's an acomplishment. All you need is professor X's wheelchair and a can of orange spraypaint.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Aug 2016 09:48:09 No.85543332 Report

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In theory nothing is wrong with making more diverse heroes. Some of the examples shown in the OP are pretty interesting as concepts.

It's in the execution where it tends to fall apart with shit characterisations and bad writing.

Examples that in my opinion pulled it off well: Ms Marvel, Totally Awesome Hulk and All New Ghostrider.

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Anonymous Wed 17 Aug 2016 09:55:05 No.85543411 Report

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>>85543314
>and a can of orange spraypaint
IT'S GOLDEN!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Aug 2016 10:01:16 No.85543485 Report

Quoted By: >>85544735 >>85548618

>>85542041
So why do we need Cyborg on the League over Martian Manhunter?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Aug 2016 10:15:09 No.85543584 Report

Quoted By: >>85548289

>>85542398

She basically stopped fighting when she was pregnant.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Aug 2016 10:48:16 No.85543816 Report

Quoted By: >>85548315

>>85541410
I agree with you on most of these but:
>Captain Falcon
Is very much his own Cap, and between the fact that him being Cap's legacy makes sense, and the fact that he's mostly been handled by Remender and Spencer, I'm pretty down with him.
>Miles
This was a problem when he was in the Ultimate-verse, but is nice now, since there's so much nostalgia for teen Pete, for whatever reason, and now we can have the best of both worlds. He just needs to get out of Bendis' chubby grasp.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Aug 2016 12:13:29 No.85544556 Report

Quoted By: >>85544595

>>85540783
Most of those should not count as diversity. Most of those are the same stories with a minority character inserted.

Books like Wednesday comics, Silver age series, Kamandi challenge, Dial H, War comics, Vision are actually diverse in terms of storytelling.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Aug 2016 12:15:50 No.85544595 Report

Quoted By: >>85544767

>>85544556
>Books like Wednesday comics, Silver age series, Kamandi challenge, Dial H, War comics, Vision are actually diverse in terms of storytelling.
What else all these comics have/will have in common?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Aug 2016 12:15:57 No.85544597 Report

Quoted By: >>85544696

>>85540783
> let's list the positive examples
> thread is filled with shitposting about the negative examples in OP

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Aug 2016 12:16:05 No.85544599 Report

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>>85540783
I get more people to do accurate cosplays as

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Aug 2016 12:18:06 No.85544627 Report

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Kenan

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Anonymous Wed 17 Aug 2016 12:18:54 No.85544638 Report

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>>85540783
I think Kate Bishop is an interesting character. Also, as weird as it sounds, I appreciate the fact that Sam Wilson Cap's comics are overtly political. I'd rather have them be unabashed about it then have them skirt around the issue and tell everyone their message was up to the reader's interpretation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Aug 2016 12:19:58 No.85544658 Report

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>>85541410
>I don't understand why this is being claimed as diversity. Because she's a mother now?

Single mom virtue signaling
Single moms are literally criminal factories

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Aug 2016 12:22:19 No.85544696 Report

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>>85544597
Did you honestly expect any thing else?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Aug 2016 12:25:31 No.85544735 Report

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>>85543485
Because MM is fucking green and a shapeshifter, no one thinks he is what he's disguised as unless they don't know it's him. Hell, his name literally reminds you he's a fucking green monster under whatever human disguise he has at the moment.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Aug 2016 12:27:46 No.85544767 Report

Quoted By: >>85546173

>>85544595
Most are by DC?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Aug 2016 12:27:50 No.85544769 Report

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>>85543104
>Sam Alexander
Just as bad as Miles, fuck off.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Aug 2016 12:35:15 No.85544882 Report

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>>85543104
>Sam Alexander,
He's shit though

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Aug 2016 13:13:18 No.85545458 Report

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If a comic book writer is feeling lazy (s)he can just palette swap an existing hero & not have to go through the hassle of actually creating an interesting fleshed out hero.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Aug 2016 13:58:43 No.85546173 Report

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>>85544767
Nah, they sell belofe 9k.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Aug 2016 14:25:42 No.85546653 Report

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The fact they're exposing Marvel's outrage marketing tactic clear enough that even an idiot can potentially see it. Assuming comics don't somehow end up suffering another crash, we're right around the corner from Marvel getting good again and moving away from this trash they started in the 2000s, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Aug 2016 15:40:19 No.85548289 Report

Quoted By: >>85548392

>>85543584
So then why did she have her own book? I never bothered reading it because I was thrilled about a crime fighting pregnant woman, but is it just about "muh labor pains" or what?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Aug 2016 15:41:29 No.85548315 Report

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>>85543816
>so much nostalgia for teen Pete
There is a book out, right now, that goes back to Pete's high school days. Miles is nearly pointless in 616.

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Anonymous Wed 17 Aug 2016 15:44:23 No.85548392 Report

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>>85548289
She gets caught up in a hostage situation at her pseudowife's space hospital's maternity ward and has to go Die Hard on a lot of Skrulls. She gives birth at the end of that arc.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Aug 2016 15:48:15 No.85548456 Report

Quoted By: >>85548778

>>85541410
I think its kind of fucked up that she got a sperm donor to become pregnant because "she felt like it" because her writer decided he wanted to write a pregnant lady.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Aug 2016 15:55:57 No.85548618 Report

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>>85543485
because his "cannon persona" isnt a black guy

he wasnt raised on earth as a black guy, or live on earth as only a black guy

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Anonymous Wed 17 Aug 2016 16:05:04 No.85548778 Report

Quoted By: >>85549438 >>85550342

>>85541620
>>85548392
>>85548456
I feel like at some point the pitch must have been Carol & Jess get married and decide to start a family.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Aug 2016 16:07:24 No.85548817 Report

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>>85541599
>le/pol/boogeyman

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Aug 2016 16:08:44 No.85548847 Report

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>>85540783
The way Marvel is doing it by replacing every male character with a female minority? Hmmm... I guess it's rekindled my love with DC just in time for Rebirth and now I'm going back and discovering the stuff that was not shit about ñu52
The way DC is doing it doesnt need to be listed because they do it right by addig new characters to fit the niche.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Aug 2016 16:37:02 No.85549438 Report

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>>85548778
The fuck is going on in that first panel?
The fuck is going on with Carol's face?
Are they gay now?
Did we really need the "ice cream" cliche?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Aug 2016 16:41:23 No.85549526 Report

Quoted By: >>85549728

>be woman of colour
>just want to read comics
>marvel shitting on everything I liked and telling me they are doing it for me

T-thanks? The only comic I still read is Moon Knight.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Aug 2016 16:41:52 No.85549535 Report

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>>85540783
>let's list the positives of diversifying comic characters

So why is Whor there?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Aug 2016 16:51:14 No.85549728 Report

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>>85549526
DC increases their miniority/woman count by actually adding new super hero personas as opposed to slapping a tried and true mantle onto an asian trans teenager.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Aug 2016 16:53:59 No.85549802 Report

Quoted By: >>85549834

>>85540783
>Miles

>Fem Thor.

Shit list. Keep Fem Hawkeye, X-23, and Cap Falcon even though he was better off as Falcon the boon was still decent.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Aug 2016 16:55:02 No.85549834 Report

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>>85549802
Book*

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Anonymous Wed 17 Aug 2016 16:57:46 No.85549895 Report

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>>85541004
>Miles

>Positive.

I literally can't name a more bland character at Marvel than him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Aug 2016 17:02:34 No.85550015 Report

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>>85540783
Great diversity list?

>Blade
>Miguel O' Hara
>Prowler
>Carol pre-KSD
>Luke Cage pre-Bendis
>Shang-Chi
>Songbird
>Tigra
>Black Panther
>Nu Ms. Marvel
Ecto. Ect.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Aug 2016 17:15:59 No.85550342 Report

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>>85548778
Reminder that gay ships should never happen unless you want cancer. Knowing Marvel, they're going to do it anyways and fuck it up just to get outrage bucks from everyone including those who support it. Assuming some suit doesn't shoot it down for potentially dooming Carol's MCU counterpart in some territories

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