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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 14:07:58 2016 No.81406710 View Reply Original Report

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HYPERCRISIS THREAD:

Ok /co/, let's talk about the Justice League and their role within the Multiverse. Why are they so iconic? Do they represent some type of mythological concept or archetypal heroes?

Post your theories here /co/.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 14:27:31 No.81406951 Report

Quoted By: >>81407599 >>81407875

OP here, I'll start:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZElezm1HULE

Grant Morrison stated that each of the seven original JLA members were or are based on the seven chakra energies. The green text are ones stated by Morrison during the interview panel with Deepak Chopra. The non-green texts are my own assumptions.

>Base Chakra
Batman

Sacral Chakra
Wonder Woman

Solar Plexus
Green Lantern

>Heart
Superman

>Throat
The Flash

Brow
Martian Manhunter (Cyborg fills this role now)

Crown
Aquaman

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 14:36:10 No.81407098 Report

Quoted By: >>81407169 >>81407311 >>81407374 >>81407875

Paracelsus, and other alchemists or his time, made a connection between the seven "planets" and the seven vital organs. The connections are as follows.
>Sun-Heart
>Moon-Brain
>Mercury-Lungs
>Mars-Gall Bladder
>Jupiter-Liver
>Saturn-Spleen

There may be a connection between these groups of seven and the Justice League.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 14:40:05 No.81407169 Report

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>>81407098
If I were to assign each member of the Justice League to a planet/organ, I'm not sure who I would put where.

Superman seems to make most sense as the Sun/Heart, due to his powers being fueled by solar radiation and one of his defining characteristics being his compassion, or his "heart". But the sun is also what all the other planets revolve around. Would it be fair to say that the other members of the Justice League revolve around Superman? I'm not sure.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 14:44:45 No.81407248 Report

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>>81407169
Moon/Brain seems like the kind of thing that would be attached to Batman. The brain is the organ of knowledge and intellect, which is Batman's greatest power. But does he fit with the moon? The moon is often associated with femininity, The moon also effects the waves and tides of the ocean, so it could also make sense for the moon to represent Aquaman. The Brain doesn't seem like it would represent either Aquaman or Wonder Woman.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 14:48:30 No.81407311 Report

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>>81407098
>>81407169
Thank you for the contribution anon! Very interesting information.

>Would it be fair to say that the other members of the Justice League revolve around Superman?
I think that's a very fair point to make anon, Superman is the first superhero.

Looked up Paracelsus on Wiki. Quick glance read gave me that Paracelsus was actually ahead of his time in medicine, he believed in specific medicine cures rather than his time's cure all remedies and believed in germs. Quote below stood out:

>"The Germ Theory was anticipated by him as he proposed that diseases were entities in themselves, rather than states of being."

Can this be the Gentry? Morrison has written them to be almost as a disease that effects the reader and only superheroes acting as anti-bodies can save the reader.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 14:49:06 No.81407324 Report

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>>81407248
>But does he fit with the moon?

Moon. Night. Bat. Dark. Lighting the darkness (with a bat-signal).

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 14:50:11 No.81407341 Report

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>>81407248
I doubt that there would be any debate over The Flash representing Mercury/Lungs. In Roman mythology, Mercury was the Messenger of the Gods (and the inspiration for Jay Garrick's head wear). The lungs are a little harder to justify. While the lungs are utilized during running, they aren't utilized anymore than the heart. On this I'm stumped.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 14:51:41 No.81407361 Report

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>>81407341

Lungs=air=wind=speed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 14:52:05 No.81407374 Report

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>>81407098
I just noticed that I forgot to add one of the planet/organs

>Venus-Kidneys

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 15:03:53 No.81407582 Report

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>>81407341
>>81407374
Now, Venus the actual planet most closely associated with femininity and womanhood. Also in Roman mythology, Venus is the goddess of love and Woman Woman once wore a ring of the Star Sapphires. I'm not sure if she fits with kidneys though. The kidneys produce urine, a waste product. I'm not sure that fits (unless you mean how wasted Wonder Woman's rogues gallery is). The kidneys used to be thought of as the home of a persons conscience. The Talmud says that one kidney houses someones good and the other someones bad. This could possibly represent the duality of Wonder Woman's purpose as both a warrior and a diplomat.

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 15:05:18 No.81407597 Report

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>>81407582

The kidneys also process waste, which also fits because Wonder Woman is piss.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 15:05:27 No.81407599 Report

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>>81406951
>51
So damn close.

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 15:07:02 No.81407631 Report

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 15:08:56 No.81407662 Report

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Only Morrison rolls 52s

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 15:09:17 No.81407669 Report

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 15:09:50 No.81407676 Report

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>>81407374
>>81407361
>>81407341
>>81407324
>>81407248
>>81407169

OP here, I think you all are on to something with this anons. My own interruption would be (Keep in mind I'm not a doctor):

>Sun-Heart
Superman

>Moon-Brain
Batman

>Mercury-Lungs
Flash

>Venus-Kidneys
Wonder Woman

>Mars-Gall Bladder
Green Lantern. Mars is the god of war, you need iron will to win in a war so I placed GL here.

>Jupiter-Liver
Aquaman. Was torn as I too wanted to place him in as Moon but since Jupiter is a king planet, I placed the rightful heir to Atlantis' throne as Jupiter

>Saturn-Spleen
Martian Manhunter. I wanted to place him under Mars since the whole Martian but since he is the lone survivor, MM seems to me as a good stand in as a mysterious and haunted figure similar to the Roman god of Saturn.

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 15:11:01 No.81407696 Report

Quoted By: >>81407764 >>81408215 >>81408290

Mars/Gallbladder seems like it would obviously be Martian Manhunter, The gallbladder was thought to house a persons gall, bravery or boldness. I haven't read much Martian Manhunter but he doesn't seem particularly brave, since he is always hiding in the form of a man. Although, in the Zangfu theory of Chinese Medicine the gallbladder was seen as the seat of decision making, which could fit into his telepathy or how in Justice League Unlimited (my only real exposure to Martian Manhunter) he ran the Watchtower and sent other heroes out on missions.

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 15:12:12 No.81407720 Report

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 15:14:42 No.81407764 Report

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>>81407696
According to Wikipedia, the Chinese have an idiom of a "single gallbladder hero" (????) which means a lone hero, which could fit Martian Manhunter's loner status.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 15:20:01 No.81407875 Report

Quoted By: >>81408490 >>81408539 >>81408668 >>81410276 >>81422524 >>81428651

>>81406710
>>81407720
>>81406951
>>81407098
What would Marvel's Seven be? Does Marvel fit into the Seven theory as nicely as DC does? If not, why is that? I have read the Marvel Machine theory in which it compares Marvel to being mechanical or man made while DC is organic and free flowing. Makes since since Marvel was trying to copy DC's success with their heroes.

I know the Marvel Machine theory shows the Golden Age element trio is Cap= earth, Human Torch= fire and Namor= water

Can the Silver Age or Modern element trio be Cap= Earth, Iron Man= Fire and Thor= Water?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 15:20:08 No.81407878 Report

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Any Hypercrisi about the Beyonders?

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 15:26:13 No.81407990 Report

Quoted By: >>81408215 >>81408266 >>81408290 >>81429855

As another anon said, Jupiter may be Aquaman. They are both kings, after all. But Jupiter was a sky god, which is the opposite of a water hero like Aquaman. The astrological symbol for Jupiter (seen to your left) is stylized to look like a thunder bolt, which makes me suspect that Jupiter might actually represent Green Lantern. Jovial is the adjectival for of Jupiter which has come to mean happy or merry, which seems to fit Green Lantern more than Aquaman (OUTRAGEOUS). The Chinese, Japanese and Koreans would call Jupiter the "Wood Star", which could reference the original Green Lanterns weakness against wood, but that kind of feels like I'm stretching it.
Now onto the liver. In Greek mythology Prometheus would would have his liver eaten by a bird everyday as punishment for giving the gift of fire to human. This gift of fire could possibly be interpreted as the Starheart, though I don't know who would be punished in this situation (the Guardians of the Universe?)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 15:38:39 No.81408215 Report

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>>81407990
>>81407764
>>81407696
Wow now I'm very interested and what the Chinese alchemy interruption of the JLA would be.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 15:39:49 No.81408238 Report

Quoted By: >>81408290

Finally, there is Saturn/Spleen. Unfortunately for Aquaman, he seems to be stuck with the left overs. In Roman mythology, Saturn was the leader of the titans and the father of civilization. In astrology, the sign of Libra falls under Saturn. Libra is the scales of law and justice, which could reference the fact that Aquaman is a king, and thus the decided what is law and what is just for his people. Before the discovery of Uranus, Saturn had the astrological sign of Aquarius under it's domain. In William Shakespeare's Julius Ceaser, the spleen is used to represent Ceaser's irritable nature. In Ancient Greek, to be "good spleened" was the same as being "good hearted". The Talmud thought that the spleen was the organ of laughter.
All these inconsistent characterization of the spleen could possibly represent Aquaman's constantly changing nature in the comics.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 15:41:18 No.81408266 Report

Quoted By: >>81408340 >>81408490

>>81407990
>The astrological symbol for Jupiter (seen to your left) is stylized to look like a thunder bolt,

I don't see it. I see a 24, and a wave crashing against a wall.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 15:42:18 No.81408290 Report

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>>81407169
>>81407248
>>81407341
>>81407582
>>81407696
>>81407990
>>81408238
Also, I should add that I don't really know what I'm talking about. I did this on the fly and got all this information from Wikipedia, so if anyone who actually knows about all this stuff has anything to say about it please chime in.

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 15:44:01 No.81408340 Report

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>>81408266
That's just what it said on Wikipedia, there could be other interpretations that I don't know about.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 15:49:59 No.81408460 Report

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Did /Hypercrisis/ senpaitachi liked BvS?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 15:51:43 No.81408490 Report

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>>81408290
>>81408340
No worries anon, this is how we find the answers so thank you for contributing to the thread. You have provided very good material!

>>81408266
Very interesting, would fit with >>81407875 theory of Thor and Namor sharing in being the water element in the MU.

Francis Castle

Francis Castle Sun 03 Apr 2016 15:53:46 No.81408539 Report

Quoted By: >>81409313 >>81409831 >>81414228

>>81407875
Marvel tends to run off less natural and spiritual patterns and more "mechanical" man-made ones, like you said. They don't so much have a Holy Trinity as much and they have upgrades and advancement, you start with the First Family, the Fantastic Four which represent the crude alchemy of our past (Ben = Earth, Johnny = Fire, Sue = Air, Reed = Water). Then we advance to men made of Iron and Metal (Stark, Logan, T'Challa with his Vibranium, and Doom with his mask). Doom being Metal as the progressive step beyond alchemy to science is the perfect foil for the FF. We then move past that, Marvel pushes characters based on genetics like the X-Men and Spider-Man, or physics like the Hulk. As Marvel adapts, they leave characters behind to stand upon the shoulders of giants. The Marvel machine gains a sense of self-awareness when Starlin makes the storylines involving Thanos and the IG, an artifical attempt to create and expand on greater concepts within the universe (theoretical physics). Marvel is not an organic expression of ideals like DC, it is more like an artificial intelligence that tries to constantly adapt and change itself to become more popular (Ultron). We have now reached a point where the A.I. has learned how to interact better, faster, reaching more people (Now! and All-New All-Different). It is forcing its own evolution of characters with the sudden influx of legacy characters and Inhumans. DC will go through many iterations of Superman to reach the ideal hero, Marvel will go through many heroes to create the perfect Spider-Man.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 15:53:46 No.81408540 Report

Quoted By: >>81408554 >>81408826 >>81429061

I tried posting this in a Multiversity thread but it wasn't very well received. Just ramblings on Supes and the Hypercrisis.

Alright here goes, not sure how verbose to get with it so sorry if I ramble. So the utter bewilderment at how Superman has been portrayed cinematically this decade really got me thinking. It's definitely disheartening and borderline unbelievable the way that the character has been portrayed. Superman is a relatively simplistic character whose defining traits of goodness are very easy to pinpoint and also directly contribute to him resonating in the public consciousness for so long. The fact that these traits are being ignored can very easily be attributed to changing times or apathetic capitalism. BUT, when you frame this borderline bastardization of arguably the most benevolent popular character within the context of the Hypercrisis, another explanation emerges that fits too well to be ignored. So, the Hypercrisis is real, and fiction is its own reality that affects our own in ways both subtle and obvious. Morrison crystallized these ideas over the past few decades and disseminated them to what I have to assume is the widest audience ever exposed to said ideas. The Hypercrisis is stronger than ever before as it grows in the largest consciousness imaginable. Superman gets reinterpreted as the new American mythology now that organized religion has finally lost it's foothold on the masses. When before he was dismissed as a frivolity for children, when the Hypercrisis takes hold he transcends his origins and becomes the symbol of light, goodness, and hope that has been sorely missing from the public consciousness. A beacon that reminds us of the power and strength that we all have within ourselves. SO, if these ideas of selflessness and hope for a better future actually gained a foothold in the minds of the masses, how would you snuff them out? Cont.

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 15:54:51 No.81408554 Report

Quoted By: >>81408687 >>81408826

>>81408540
By reinterpreting the character in a way that contradicts these notions and then unleashing him on an even larger scale. Cont. Replacing the Sun God that will save us all and bring light to the world with a dour, dark, scary creature who does not even know how to help himself, let alone other people. Since the audience for movies vastly trumps that of the one where the true Superman was born, the character that was eliciting change as an avatar of Good as people realized the lines between fiction and reality weren't as concrete as once believed becomes vastly overshadowed in the public consciousness by a twisted version of the character that is meant to propogate negative ideas and enforce the status quo that is leading us to oblivion. Now, I will concede that this is largely hypothetical and can be interpreted as grasping at straws. But if you think the Hypercrisis is real, that something isn't quite right with our world, that sinister forces might actually be pulling the strings and manipulating people away from ideas that would genuinely change the world for the better, then the way that Superman, the pinnacle of our potential for good and a hope for a better future, is portrayed should give you a lot of food for thought.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 16:00:45 No.81408668 Report

Quoted By: >>81408855 >>81409313 >>81410276

>>81407875
I think you are missing a key ingredient in the "superheroes represent the elements" thing and that ingredient is air.
I agree that the golden age heroes would be Cap-Earth, Human Torch-Fire and Namor-Water, but there is also The Angel - Air.
For the silver age, I think that there could be two interpretations. There could be Cap-Earth, Iron Man-Fire, Thor-Water and Silver Surfer-Air. You could also interpret it with Marvel's first family. Human Torch-Fire, The Thing-Earth, Invisible Woman-Air, and Mr. Fantastic-Water.

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 16:01:45 No.81408687 Report

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>>81408554
>a dour, dark, scary creature who does not even know how to help himself, let alone other people

Made me quite sad. Poor supes, but hey, I have to have hope that he will pull through eventually.

It is superman, after all, he's beaten worse.

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 16:03:02 No.81408713 Report

Quoted By: >>81408804 >>81410541 >>81418561

Vaguely related, but do you guys think it will last another 80~ years?

I really hope so.

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 16:06:35 No.81408790 Report

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Quick comparison between Superman in Action Comics #1 and a painting of Samson.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 16:07:26 No.81408804 Report

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>>81408713
Even if both of the Big 2 collapse, eventually their remnants will lack the ability or resources to keep them out of the public domain, at this point the Hypercrisis will begin expanding fractally as the ideas behind capeshit are expressed in an unseen number of new ways

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 16:08:42 No.81408826 Report

Quoted By: >>81430469

>>81408540
>>81408554
As much as I was shocked at the Man of Steel scene (my jaw dropped)...Superman has killed Zod before in the Christopher Reeves movie. Granted they were Disney deaths but they stilled died.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUORL-bvwA0

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 16:09:57 No.81408844 Report

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>>81408804
As a hypercrisis theorist (Jesus Christ, I actually said that. kill me) I want that to happen, however the fan in me who like things being vaguely consistent would probably commit sudoku.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 16:10:08 No.81408847 Report

Quoted By: >>81408877 >>81408886 >>81408922 >>81408937 >>81429298

>>81406710
As much as I hate SJWs and idk all that shit, it's weird how literally they are all white, apart from the Martian.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 16:10:35 No.81408855 Report

Quoted By: >>81408895 >>81409313

>>81408668
Well said. Any reason why you chose Silver Surfer?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 16:11:51 No.81408877 Report

Quoted By: >>81408937 >>81429298

>>81408847
the 40s-50s were an entirely different planet, dude.

I just wish they were not so..excessively rampant with the race swaps.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 16:12:16 No.81408886 Report

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>>81408847
>>>/co/mblr

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 16:12:49 No.81408895 Report

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>>81408855
I chose him because he surfs through the air. It wasn't a particularly deep choice.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 16:14:49 No.81408922 Report

Quoted By: >>81429298

>>81408847
They are a product of their time. In the 50's and 60's it would be almost impossible to sell a book starring a non-white character that wasn't a massive stereotype. And once the Justice League lineup became iconic, the damage was already done.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 16:15:19 No.81408937 Report

Quoted By: >>81408981 >>81429298

>>81408847
>>81408877
Speaking of, it's kind of annoying how people play up the "lack of diversity" by erroneously claiming every white hero is a blond haired blue eyed Arian.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 16:17:19 No.81408981 Report

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>>81408937
You are literally a racist

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 16:18:49 No.81409011 Report

Quoted By: >>81409087 >>81409115 >>81410476 >>81414946

How do you guys feel about the fact that in us 'becoming' supermen, we are slowly killing off the need for Superman himself?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIKYRZc9A1M

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 16:19:05 No.81409017 Report

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>>81408981
I'm okay with that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 16:23:04 No.81409087 Report

Quoted By: >>81409131 >>81409327

>>81409011
Thanks for this. I think I'm going to make a hypercrisis youtube playlist for things like this. I'll link it once I'm done, and maybe link it in later hypercrisis threads.

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 16:24:01 No.81409115 Report

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>>81409011
I think that as far as humanity goes, there will always be the impossible and Superman, in whatever form he ends up taking in a gorrillion years will still be needed to fill that fantasy of reaching said impossibility.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 16:25:03 No.81409131 Report

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>>81409087
looking forward to it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 16:30:29 No.81409242 Report

Quoted By: >>81409320 >>81409327

>>81409131
If any of you have any videos that you want added, post them now so I can put them in.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 16:30:29 No.81409243 Report

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>>81409115
In a hundred years or however long it takes, Superman will either become even more ridiculous (moving into post cosmic or even metaversial levels) to be able to show a man beyond man, or perhaps we as humans will advance enough that some of his accomplishments will be more that of a lower super hero than the top teir of heroics

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 16:34:30 No.81409313 Report

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>>81408539
>>81408668
>>81408855
With the Marvel Machine theory, the Fantastic Four was a huge success in kick starting the MU because it was calculated?

4 = a square which is a perfect shape according to mathematicians and ancient thinkers. A square is the best shape in any foundation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 16:35:00 No.81409320 Report

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>>81409242
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UuTd4pKHPo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcW_EaNJQSo - covers a lot of stuff, but there are a fair few related points in there. Really worth the time, if you haven't listened to it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 16:35:20 No.81409327 Report

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>>81409242
>>81409131
>>81409087
Playlist is right here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIKYRZc9A1M&list=PLq-_SviLVAhy1xISPECRHxTXQmryaw-xH

I'll be updating it as regularly as I can remember.

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 16:51:28 No.81409666 Report

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 16:58:54 No.81409831 Report

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>>81408539
So Marvel is self-aware and adapted according to ensure its' survival?..... QUIPS!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 16:59:54 No.81409853 Report

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>>81409606
What happened with this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 17:04:37 No.81409959 Report

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>>81407676

>Martian Manhunter not being Mars
>Green Lantern not being the planet with rings

you had ONE JOB

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 17:09:05 No.81410044 Report

Quoted By: >>81410077 >>81410307

>>81409959
Holy shit I never even considered the whole ring aspect. I feel so stupid.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 17:10:47 No.81410077 Report

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>>81410044
Dubs confirm you are stupid

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 17:15:02 No.81410178 Report

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>>81410077
I don't need my dubs or yours to confirm that, I already know.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 17:17:06 No.81410227 Report

Quoted By: >>81410859

Got this list from comic vine http://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/justice-league-of-america-630/morrison-greek-god-s-correlation-1526058/. Pretty much listing the gods Morrison used as a bases for his JL run

1.Superman-Zeus: king of the gods/god of the sky=number 1 superhero

2.Batman-Hades:god of the dead and riches who lives in the underworld=Rich guy who is haunted by death and lives in the batcave. Both are considered nessescary evils.

3.Wonder Woman-Hera:Queen of the gods biggest female superheroes

4.Green lantern-Apollo: god of light and art=graphic artist with a power ring

5.Oracle:Goddess of Knowledge and Strategy=number one information broker of the dcu

6.Flash-Apollo-god of speed=fastest man alive

7.Aquaman-Poseidon: god of the seas=king of Atlantis

8.Martian Manhunter-Chiron: overseer/mentor to the gods but not truly a god himself=overseer mentor to the team yet somewhat isolated

9.Zauriel-Eros:god of sexual love=angel who fell in love with human woman

10.Plastic Man-Dionysius: hedonistic trickster god of wine=hedonistic trickster superhero

11.Orion-Ares:brutal Olympian god of war=savage apokolyptian Dog/God of War

12.Steel-Hephaestus :Hephaestus was god of the forge and made the Olympians weapons whereas Steel was the Leagues head tech expert and made several if the JL's gadgets.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 17:19:04 No.81410276 Report

Quoted By: >>81410318

>>81408668
>Iron Man-Fire
>>81407875
>Iron Man= Fire

I don't see it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 17:19:48 No.81410293 Report

Quoted By:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9k7HGReDXuA

Interesting take.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 17:20:18 No.81410307 Report

Quoted By: >>81412551

>>81410044

I think it's kinda neat how it's all so damn close to being self-evident. I think the Aquaman-Jupiter link is the only one that's kinda stretching it. If only Neptune were a classical planet!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 17:20:45 No.81410318 Report

Quoted By: >>81410416

>>81410276
It can be seen as Promethean fire or the fire in his heart.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 17:21:40 No.81410346 Report

Quoted By: >>81451431

>>81406710
>GL is behind Bats
>Ring glow shines in FRONT of Bat's ears

>Muh autism.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 17:24:17 No.81410416 Report

Quoted By: >>81410635

>>81410318

> the fire in his heart.

right, along with every superhero ever

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 17:26:45 No.81410476 Report

Quoted By: >>81410501 >>81410715

>>81409011
>killing off the need for Superman himself?
you mean like in BvS?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 17:27:46 No.81410501 Report

Quoted By: >>81410659

>>81410476
when darkseid shows up, they're gonna fucking need superman

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 17:29:29 No.81410541 Report

Quoted By: >>81429109

>>81408713
I don't think humanity will last another 80 years, so no.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 17:34:04 No.81410635 Report

Quoted By: >>81410754

>>81410416
>It can be seen as Promethean fire or the fire in his heart.
I think he means the literal eletric/eletronic gadget that kept his heart beating for most of his comics and in all appearances in the cartoons and movies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 17:35:17 No.81410659 Report

Quoted By: >>81411951

>>81410501
the movies are pushing pure abstract concepts into reality
the painting itself has two opposing forces, much how BvS escalated to a match of two pure literal metaphors killing and therefore negating each other in an ouroboros, the next movie will have an escalation

BvS represented a cleansing of the mind, Justice League will seek to take the new energy established by BvS and propel it outward by the enveloping darkness
a light in the darkness
much like consciousness....

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 17:37:24 No.81410715 Report

Quoted By: >>81410990

>>81410476
Is this a real painting, or did they make it up for the movie? Cause that Orion symbol is Hypercrisis as fuck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 17:38:11 No.81410736 Report

Quoted By:

>>81407764

This fits Nu52 Cyborg too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 17:39:01 No.81410754 Report

Quoted By:

>>81410635
You need fire to create steel anon. Fire has always been the symbol of technology and advancement

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 17:39:38 No.81410772 Report

Quoted By:

the message of bvs is that hope can triumph in the face of cynicism

is our own reality in relation to this movie reflecting this?
will bvs succeed in spite of cynicism? what will this hypothetical success mean? production on Justice League begins in almost two weeks, does this mean that by the time they begin production, people will want to see justice league? was this their intent?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 17:40:07 No.81410786 Report

Quoted By: >>81410992 >>81411130 >>81411131

I'm new to this Hypercrisis thing, but I need to ask. Have you guys given any thought to the hipster cops mistery?

It was a thing back in 2011, a red headed guy with a goatee and a dark haired guy with sideburns appearing in a lot of books on Marvel and DC and at least once on the Transformers comic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 17:42:52 No.81410859 Report

Quoted By: >>81411054

>>81410227
>>81410227
What a shit list. A few of them aren't proper Olympians and Apollo is on it twice (Flash is obviously Hermes).

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 17:47:52 No.81410990 Report

Quoted By: >>81411179 >>81411257

>>81410715
i don't know, i'm inclined to think it's a physical painting though
i've been waiting for the rest of you to catch on

>the movies don't shy away from product placement, seemingly getting specific brands depending on the movie
>MoS 7/11 sears ihop, american staples you see everywhere, movie is birth of superman out of kansas
>BvS all sorts of toy companies, a bunch of middle to upper class car companies, doritos, pepsi, general mills, turkish airlines. it's a bigger world that has already been introduced to. superman already exists. i think lex uses a brand name candy in a scene
>suicide squad dunkin donuts monster energy drinks don't know what else, has a lollipop in logo, at least two characters modeled after real life pop culture figures

subconsciously setting a connection to our own world on screen

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 17:47:53 No.81410992 Report

Quoted By: >>81411124 >>81411130 >>81411131

>>81410786

No. Was it teasing a crossover? Never heard of it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 17:50:48 No.81411054 Report

Quoted By: >>81411157

>>81410859
Oops! Good catch anon, I just copied and pasted from the website but yeah the Flash is Hermes

You sound knowledgeable in this area anon. What would your interpretation be?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 17:53:18 No.81411113 Report

Quoted By: >>81411269

guys have any of you like... idk felt the hypercrisis or like seen hypertime or something???

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 17:53:51 No.81411124 Report

Quoted By:

>>81410992
No. That's the weird part. It was always a pair of extras in the background, generally cops, just there for a single panel. It happened on both Marvel and DC, everytime by different artists and writers. If it was an elaborate prank nobody ever came forth to assume it. It intrigued me so much that every once in a while I search to see if something happened with it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 17:54:01 No.81411130 Report

Quoted By: >>81411216 >>81411234

>>81410992
>>81410786
http://comicsalliance.com/scott-snyder-conspiracy-cops-kids-comics/

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 17:54:03 No.81411131 Report

Quoted By: >>81411216 >>81411234

>>81410992
>>81410786

Scroll down to #1

http://www.cracked.com/article_20356_5-recurring-movie-extras-you-wont-believe-you-never-noticed_p2.html

All the books were published by the same company, from memory, so it was likely someone doing it for shits and giggles. Or to save putting effort into designing characters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 17:55:34 No.81411157 Report

Quoted By: >>81423989

>>81411054
Huntress as Artemis, that's one Morrison definitely intended. Barda as Athena. Oracle, who was more of a secret member, fits best as the Oracle of Delphi.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 17:56:20 No.81411179 Report

Quoted By: >>81438476

>>81410990
>You will never have an Hypercrisis thresome with Skwad Harley and Debbie Harris
Why live

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 17:57:39 No.81411216 Report

Quoted By: >>81411283 >>81429500

>>81411130
>>81411131
>Cracked
>ComicsAlliance
Holy fuck why don't you link to BleedingCool and Kotaku while you are at it faggot?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 17:58:16 No.81411234 Report

Quoted By:

>>81411130
>>81411131
Huh. Thanks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 17:59:05 No.81411257 Report

Quoted By: >>81411454 >>81412729

>>81410990
BvS purposely uses extended associations from outside culture and movies to tell it's story
>casting of lex luthor as hip millenial billionaire, same guy who played zuckerberg
>cavill was in immortals, story of theseus suspiciously has many similarities to superman story so far in dceu
>affleck older broken down superman, he had failed earlier as daredevil, a similar 'demonic' type character
>bruce wayne's first encounter with martha kent is oddly similar visually to prior film with ben affleck and diane lane
>wonder woman is a foreign warrior woman, gadot was a model who has served in the military

>bvs makes allusions to tropes, movie scenes, movie tropes, mythic tropes, editing tropes, esotericism, symbolism, figures of real historical relevance in american psyche,
>bvs invites free flowing free association from the viewer
>archetypal imagery and relationships
>patterns of three important to the movie, patterns of two as well
>climax of the movie contains all the meanings and themes and all the extended associations of above, pure literal abstraction on film

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 17:59:31 No.81411269 Report

Quoted By: >>81411290

>>81411113
>Pic very much related

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 18:00:05 No.81411283 Report

Quoted By: >>81411319

>>81411216
I posted the cracked link for no other reason than to get your reaction. twas worth

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 18:00:16 No.81411290 Report

Quoted By: >>81411353 >>81411428 >>81411448

>>81411269
no but i mean like... do u guys ever feel like youve really been IN it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 18:01:14 No.81411319 Report

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>>81411283
>I was only pretending to be retarded XD

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 18:02:09 No.81411353 Report

Quoted By: >>81411390

>>81411290
Every time I read a comic, anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 18:03:45 No.81411390 Report

Quoted By: >>81411423

>>81411353
is that flex mentallo? and have you seen primer anon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 18:05:01 No.81411423 Report

Quoted By: >>81411460 >>81411474 >>81417864

>>81411390
Yes, and no. Is it good?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 18:05:07 No.81411428 Report

Quoted By: >>81411436

>>81411290
There is never a time when you are NOT experiencing hypertime, anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 18:05:37 No.81411436 Report

Quoted By: >>81411707

>>81411428
dammit dont remind me

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 18:06:07 No.81411448 Report

Quoted By: >>81411499

>>81411290
Do we all have an inner superhero and if so how would one connect to it?

What does Hypercrisis say about this notion of superheroes being our guardian angels or our true potential? How do we unlock it? Is wanting to be a superhero a trap by the Oblivion Machine?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 18:06:24 No.81411454 Report

Quoted By: >>81412729

>>81411257
>the climax of bvs presents us with an ideas not only central to the plot and story but to our own reality as well
>the idea of personal savior god who comes from above is killed
>superman's monument on earth is destroyed, this monument is a some sort of psychological magical(i'm assuming) anchor
>magick is used in both MoS and BvS
>MoS logo is the insignia of hope, as the movie progresses we're introducing with moral questions and the idea of hope, and the idea that absolutes should not define the individual
>BvS logo is the MoS logo, one that is now anchored in our minds as the symbol of hope, along with a bat around it. in the trailer the bat is illuminated from above behind and one with the symbol of hope, all our subconscious associations with batman are bonded with the extended associations with superman
>in the movie batman becomes an apostle for the message of hope
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45h73pDutBk
all of this is intentional

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 18:06:47 No.81411460 Report

Quoted By: >>81411477 >>81411812

>>81411423
it is. it talks indirectly about hypertime and the crisis

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 18:07:25 No.81411474 Report

Quoted By: >>81411600

>>81411423

Naw, hipster bullshit masquerading as DEEP. Basically Nolan with physics.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 18:07:34 No.81411477 Report

Quoted By:

>>81411460
sweet. ill get around to watching it later today

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 18:08:34 No.81411496 Report

Quoted By: >>81411662

>>81406710

What happens at the minute 52 of BvS?

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 18:08:38 No.81411499 Report

Quoted By: >>81412212

>>81411448
son im not sure. it might be the gentry. it sure does feel a lot like this.

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 18:10:56 No.81411600 Report

Quoted By: >>81411632

>>81411474
I didn't ask for a /co/ntrarian faggots opinion.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 18:11:52 No.81411632 Report

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>>81411600

It's not an opinion if it's true.

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 18:13:04 No.81411662 Report

Quoted By: >>81411703 >>81411734 >>81411752 >>81411777 >>81411840 >>81411922 >>81412123 >>81412189 >>81412277 >>81413726

>>81411496
The Knightmare begins, Batman sees the Omega symbol. Not even joking.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 18:13:27 No.81411678 Report

Quoted By:

>MoS contrasts two opposing views of the individual within society
>free individual free to make their own choice
>individuals bred to function in the state
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OUkztFhUeI [Embed]

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 18:14:29 No.81411703 Report

Quoted By: >>81411774 >>81411833

>>81411662
No fucking way

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 18:14:48 No.81411707 Report

Quoted By:

>>81411436
>In another timeline you are a superhero

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 18:16:00 No.81411734 Report

Quoted By: >>81411774

>>81411662

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 18:16:26 No.81411752 Report

Quoted By: >>81412183

>>81411662
>omega symbol is a brand on the earth like how batman brands his victims
>batman wills justice into the world through his brand
>that scene in particular is where he's interrogating a sex trafficker, someone who oppresses and chains the female principle
>superman has a statue and people use his symbol to summon him

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 18:17:32 No.81411774 Report

Quoted By:

>>81411703
>>81411734
>this movie is for the fans

are you doubting them anymore, /co/?

are we still reading too much into the movie?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 18:17:34 No.81411777 Report

Quoted By:

>>81411662
We're going too deep. So deep that we may never be able to surface again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 18:18:43 No.81411812 Report

Quoted By:

>>81411460
ok wait in primer it basically says the you of your timeline and the you of a past timeline basically an alternate you can swap places through the "space between space/time between time" aka the bleed

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 18:19:28 No.81411833 Report

Quoted By: >>81411922 >>81411955 >>81411967 >>81412015 >>81412189 >>81450222

>>81411703
The 52nd second of the 52nd minute to be more precise.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 18:19:33 No.81411840 Report

Quoted By:

>>81411662
IMPOSSIBLE

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 18:20:47 No.81411875 Report

Quoted By:

>BvS is in part the transformation and ascension of three aspects or representations of the male principle
>fear doubt projections and a predisposition to not share get transfigured into hope and brotherhood

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 18:22:11 No.81411908 Report

Quoted By: >>81411931 >>81411952 >>81412531 >>81414142

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 18:22:55 No.81411922 Report

Quoted By: >>81411970

>>81411662
>>81411833
Guys I'm scared

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 18:23:13 No.81411931 Report

Quoted By:

>>81411908
well that's the wrong image. opps.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 18:23:57 No.81411951 Report

Quoted By:

>>81410659

Nah, Supes is one of the very few heavy hitters than can take on Darkseid. No Supes, no victory. That's it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 18:24:02 No.81411952 Report

Quoted By: >>81412001

>>81411908
Is this McFarlane or Capullo?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 18:24:17 No.81411955 Report

Quoted By: >>81412412

>>81411833
There's no way they're not planning this shit now. Between this and the black sun on Lex's demons/angels painting, there's gotta be some legit Hypercrisis shit going on.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 18:24:40 No.81411967 Report

Quoted By: >>81412016

>>81411833
>00:51:52

Anon, check your pic before you post it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 18:24:55 No.81411970 Report

Quoted By: >>81412021

>>81411922
embrace it. the hypercrisis is now

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 18:26:09 No.81412001 Report

Quoted By: >>81412531

>>81411952
pretty sure it was McFarlane

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 18:26:51 No.81412015 Report

Quoted By: >>81412050

>>81411833
The bootleg movie starts at 00:00?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 18:26:51 No.81412016 Report

Quoted By: >>81412074 >>81429548

>>81411967
That is the 52nd minute of the movie. It starts at 0 minutes. 0-1, 1-2, 2-3, etc. Learn to count.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 18:27:01 No.81412021 Report

Quoted By: >>81412081

>>81411970
It's moving across forms of entertainment and will soon permeate into the real world

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 18:28:22 No.81412050 Report

Quoted By:

>>81412015
It starts with the fade in to the WB logo. It's pretty precise.

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 18:29:30 No.81412074 Report

Quoted By: >>81429548

>>81412016
Well shit. I never counted zeroes.

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 18:29:37 No.81412081 Report

Quoted By: >>81412149

>>81412021
Not long now, anon.

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 18:31:01 No.81412123 Report

Quoted By:

>>81411662

Hahaha! Holy Shit! I love this stuff!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 18:31:31 No.81412149 Report

Quoted By: >>81412360

>>81412081
I never noticed Superman in that page. Is it supes or just a similar outfit?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 18:32:04 No.81412170 Report

Quoted By:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XD-UMLLCGY

>bruce wayne must assemble the justice league
>within the logic of bvs he is an apostle of hope
>he founds the community of brotherly love that shares hope
>superman's character has to go through a crucible to understand humanity, has to face mortality, his death births hope into the atmosphere
>Superman is stabbed through the symbol of hope on his chest by doomsday's right hand, a repeat of zod stabbing jor-el with his right hand
>in the same way that MoS births superman as a symbol of hope, BvS births hope as a symbol spreads hope to everyone, including us
>death and resurrection are the same thing

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 18:32:39 No.81412183 Report

Quoted By:

>>81411752

>Now all of Metropolis is his Symbol.

Shit, that's deep.

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 18:32:49 No.81412189 Report

Quoted By: >>81412527

>>81411662
>>81411833

This cannot be real.

HYPERCRISIS TRAIN HAS NO BREAKS

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 18:33:37 No.81412212 Report

Quoted By: >>81412276 >>81442359

>>81411499
I've read this story quite a few times, and I still don't entirely get it. WHAT was my eye all along?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 18:35:41 No.81412276 Report

Quoted By:

>>81412212
>WHAT was my eye all along?

The Oblivion Machine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 18:35:41 No.81412277 Report

Quoted By:

>>81411662
>there are people who STILL doubt Johns is in on the hypercrisis

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 18:36:44 No.81412314 Report

Quoted By:

>>81406710
>archetypal heroes

>Superman
Classic Ideal Hero, archetype does not necessarily need to have Superman's powerset/Superman clones that do have his powerset and fit his "biggest gun in the arsenal" niche

>Batman
Street vigilante/anti-hero/Masked hero with no powers but otherwise talented and resourceful/Science hero to an extent depending on how much gadgetry he wants to show off

>Wonder Woman
Divine or fantasy hero/token female heroine/magical hero

>Flash
Single-powered hero with multiple applications

>Green Lantern
Space hero(regardless of most Superman-clones in other franchises also being aliens, Green Lantern is focused more cosmically), also Military/Law Enforcement hero in sense of many of the Green Lanterns having such backgrounds and the Corps being space law enforcement

>Aquaman
Element-themed hero

>Martian Manhunter
Psychic hero/Visibly inhuman hero(when he's not shapeshifting, obviously)

I think they cover the broadest niches by which you can peg other superheroes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 18:38:09 No.81412360 Report

Quoted By:

>>81412149
Probably just a similar outfit, but it stayed red and blue in the recolored version so it's probably an intentional reference

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 18:39:33 No.81412412 Report

Quoted By: >>81412480

>>81411955
You should have known the moment the Flash TV show mentioned that fungus the same week the Multiversity issue with it came out. Johns and Morrison are definitely working across mediums.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 18:41:34 No.81412480 Report

Quoted By: >>81412570 >>81412650

>>81412412
>Fungus
I never watch the Flash tv show so you might want to elaborate on that anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 18:43:08 No.81412527 Report

Quoted By:

>>81412189
>fucking hack who hated the opening to bvs because it 'changes' the fundamental nature of batman
>projects a bunch of his own insecurities on not only that scene but the movie in general
>exposed as either not reading DKR or having blind BvS hate

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 18:43:20 No.81412531 Report

Quoted By: >>81412575 >>81412678 >>81412764

>>81411908
>>81412001
CONTEXT PLEASE!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 18:44:06 No.81412551 Report

Quoted By:

>>81410307
Well, just as Jupiter was the king of the Roman Pantheon, Aquaman is the only Justice League member who is a king.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 18:44:26 No.81412570 Report

Quoted By:

>>81412480
I think they mention the cordyceps fungus the same week someone (The Just Damien I think) hypothesizes that cordyceps is the reason why Ultra Comics was taking over peoples minds.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 18:44:42 No.81412575 Report

Quoted By:

>>81412531

Mcfarlane is being a bitch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 18:45:08 No.81412587 Report

Quoted By:

>the perception of the movie is changing just like the perception of it's characters did within the movie

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 18:47:25 No.81412650 Report

Quoted By:

>>81412480
3rd panel

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 18:48:34 No.81412678 Report

Quoted By: >>81416465

>>81412531
meta book McFarlane did where spawn travels to hell, finds all superheroes are there as well as their original creators. Alludes to the fact that when the original creators sold their creations, they lost their soul, both literally and metaphorically in a 'purpose of the characters kind of way'.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 18:50:02 No.81412729 Report

Quoted By: >>81412768 >>81412801 >>81412811 >>81429471

>>81411454
>>81411257

I'm not sure Snyder is wise enough to have planned this, it may just be an unconscious urge. Which is Hypercrisis all the same, the characters influencing the creators and vice versa. We may still be giving the movie too much credit.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 18:51:07 No.81412764 Report

Quoted By: >>81414140

>>81412531
made younger me pretty damn upset when I saw this comic the first time

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 18:51:22 No.81412768 Report

Quoted By: >>81412822 >>81412872

>>81412729
>Underestimating the combined power of Snyder, Terrio, and Johns

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 18:52:35 No.81412801 Report

Quoted By:

>>81412729
>I'm not sure Snyder is wise enough to have planned this, it may just be an unconscious urge. Which is Hypercrisis all the same, the characters influencing the creators and vice versa. We may still be giving the movie too much credit.
everything i posted fits thematically within the movie
snyder himself talks about mythology and other ideas confirming the overt use of symbols to represent ideas
i cite this video for my claims of symbolism
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45h73pDutBk

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 18:53:02 No.81412811 Report

Quoted By:

>>81412729
It only takes Johns though
>hey man, wouldn't it be cool to put this scene here?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 18:53:19 No.81412822 Report

Quoted By: >>81429471

>>81412768
>Terrio said he found Morrison's work most interesting

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 18:54:48 No.81412871 Report

Quoted By:

http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2016/03/11/inside-chris-terrios-vision-for-batman-superman-and-justice-league/
>the discussion of the movie is now moving from connecting the dots within the movie to connecting the dots external to it

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 18:54:49 No.81412872 Report

Quoted By: >>81412895 >>81412923

>>81412768
Terrio and Johns, I can trust. It's Snyder who is the weak link.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 18:55:58 No.81412895 Report

Quoted By: >>81412921 >>81414175

>>81412872
Snyder seems easily swayed

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 18:56:48 No.81412921 Report

Quoted By: >>81413022 >>81413028

>>81412895
someone needs to sway him into reading all star superman

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 18:56:52 No.81412923 Report

Quoted By: >>81413080

>>81412872
Any chain has a weak link. But every weak link has it's strong points. Snyder's strong point seems to be his interest of symbolism.

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 18:59:59 No.81413022 Report

Quoted By:

>>81412921

This, a thousand times.

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 19:00:24 No.81413028 Report

Quoted By: >>81413047 >>81413055 >>81413147 >>81413990

>>81412921
isn't there already a motion picture adaptation of that?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 19:00:52 No.81413047 Report

Quoted By: >>81413271

>>81413028
>no Zibarro

IT'S SHIT

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 19:01:08 No.81413055 Report

Quoted By: >>81413271

>>81413028
You mean the watered down animated version?

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 19:01:51 No.81413080 Report

Quoted By:

>>81412923
just as how the movie shows its heroes working together to their strong points, the dceu behind and in front of the camera seek to work synergistically

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 19:03:42 No.81413147 Report

Quoted By: >>81413250 >>81413271

>>81413028

>No Zibarro
>No suicide girl
>The lines are changed to make Supes look a lot more "badass"

They even managed to ruin the No Superman Earth.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 19:06:28 No.81413250 Report

Quoted By: >>81413283 >>81413352

>>81413147
since we are in a hypercrisis thread....
maybe the version of superman you want in this instance isn't the most potent one, therefore not able to make it on the big screen

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 19:07:03 No.81413271 Report

Quoted By: >>81413401

>>81413147
>>81413055
>>81413047
Watch this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VO9505oVkM&index=10&list=PLq-_SviLVAhy1xISPECRHxTXQmryaw-xH

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 19:07:16 No.81413283 Report

Quoted By: >>81413361

>>81413250
perhaps. Kinda depressing though.

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 19:09:20 No.81413352 Report

Quoted By: >>81413461

>>81413250
I don't know about that. He's been pretty Supermanly in mainstream stuff like Lego Batman (all versions really) and even longrunning series like Lois & Clark and Smallville (as shitty as it was at times, I didn't really mind Clark). It's just easy to get wrong too.

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 19:09:27 No.81413361 Report

Quoted By: >>81413505

>>81413283
for who, anon?

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 19:10:36 No.81413401 Report

Quoted By:

>>81413271
>33 minutes

maybe later

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 19:12:16 No.81413461 Report

Quoted By: >>81413681

>>81413352
what appeal did those have? how far did they go? are those specific examples capable of expanding in the widest possible way?

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 19:13:41 No.81413505 Report

Quoted By: >>81413565 >>81413701 >>81413729

>>81413361
Me. because it's really 'not muh superman'.

it's not the superman people deserve, he might be best suited to the world as it is right now, but that's a world I really don't wanna keep living in.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 19:15:17 No.81413565 Report

Quoted By: >>81413592

>>81413505
there's always hope, anon

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 19:16:00 No.81413592 Report

Quoted By:

>>81413565
it's what keeps me going

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 19:18:40 No.81413681 Report

Quoted By:

>>81413461
>what appeal did those have?
Superman
>how far did they go?
What part of long running do you not understand? Also kep Superman in te public mind much more than the comics did.
>are those specific examples capable of expanding in the widest possible way?
What does that even mean?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 19:19:04 No.81413701 Report

Quoted By: >>81413737 >>81413770

>>81413505
>best suited to the world as it is right now
That's not the point. The world doesn't need a Superman that's representative of the world as it is now.
The world *needs* hope that the world can become better than it currently is.

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 19:19:46 No.81413726 Report

Quoted By:

>>81411662

YOU'RE SHITTING ME

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 19:19:49 No.81413729 Report

Quoted By:

>>81413505
Same. I can handle the in-universe narrative of people hating on Superman, but Supes himself being so dour and gloomy, to the point where his acts of heroism look like they put him in pain, is just too much.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 19:20:03 No.81413737 Report

Quoted By: >>81413831 >>81413998

>>81413701
and bvs shows us that putting all our hopes and dreams on one entity is not the answer

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 19:21:08 No.81413770 Report

Quoted By:

>>81413701
>That's not the point. The world doesn't need a Superman that's representative of the world as it is now.

what the fuck are you on about? That's exactly what I was implying.

Mos supes is so prevalent because he fits in with todays society, unlike the 'donner' superman we all know and love.

Good job not actually reading my post before replying to it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 19:22:48 No.81413831 Report

Quoted By: >>81413940

>>81413737

I interpreted BvS more about how humans are inclined to project their own mindsets, assumptions and insecurities onto heroes and figures of authorities.

Just as everyone projects different things onto the movie itself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 19:24:20 No.81413885 Report

Quoted By: >>81413929 >>81413949

>BvS has been a psychedelic experience for individuals and might turn out to be a mass psychedelic experience

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 19:25:33 No.81413929 Report

Quoted By:

>>81413885
I'd be scared if I hadn't already accepted the hypercrisis into my heart

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 19:26:00 No.81413940 Report

Quoted By: >>81414005

>>81413831
>Just as everyone projects different things onto the movie itself.
something it takes advantage of, it uses archetypes present throughout history set in a current context to be able to take on all these associations

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 19:26:31 No.81413949 Report

Quoted By:

>>81413885

One that it seems the majority of people rejected judging from the hugely negative critical response.

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 19:27:41 No.81413990 Report

Quoted By:

>>81413028
It was so bad that the writer commited suicide

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 19:27:51 No.81413998 Report

Quoted By: >>81414035 >>81414054

>>81413737

That's not a new lesson though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 19:28:16 No.81414005 Report

Quoted By: >>81414148

>>81413940

Not really, what backfired is that people projected expectations that are impossible to live up to, rather than taking the movie at its own logic and presentation.

I just wanted a movie that provided an interesting platform for the rest of the DC cinematic universe, and that's pretty much exactly what I got (with a side order of a fucking awesome Batman to boot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 19:29:17 No.81414035 Report

Quoted By:

>>81413998

No, but it's one that people continually need to re-learn.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 19:29:50 No.81414054 Report

Quoted By:

>>81413998
>That's not a new lesson though.
sure, but i'd say it's one that is very pertinent right now....

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 19:31:19 No.81414097 Report

Quoted By:

>BvS seeks to make us more aware of ourselves
>others have noted the connection to man's duality
>BvS seeks for us as individuals to overcome ourselves

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 19:32:36 No.81414140 Report

Quoted By: >>81414194

>>81412764

>Doctor Light
>Doc Ock
>Juggernaut
>Joker
>Venom

>heroes

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 19:32:39 No.81414142 Report

Quoted By:

>>81411908
>Text reads the Supes is a good guy but the art says otherwise.

Superman looks so creepy and sinister here.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 19:32:50 No.81414148 Report

Quoted By:

>>81414005
>people projected expectations that are impossible to live up to, rather than taking the movie at its own logic and presentation.

>BvS deals with how different people with different backgrounds project different things on different people instead of taking them as they are

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 19:33:39 No.81414173 Report

Quoted By: >>81414229 >>81414232 >>81414270 >>81414440

I feel we're inching closer and closer to 'You didn't like it because you didn't understand.' or more concisely 2deep4you.

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 19:33:41 No.81414175 Report

Quoted By:

>>81412895

He was the one who pushed for killing Zod, even over Nolan not wanting it in there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 19:34:20 No.81414194 Report

Quoted By: >>81416403

>>81414140
I think that's suppose to be Frank and not Dr. Light anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 19:35:15 No.81414228 Report

Quoted By:

>>81408539
>DC will go through many iterations of Superman to reach the ideal hero, Marvel will go through many heroes to create the perfect Spider-Man.

I love this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 19:35:16 No.81414229 Report

Quoted By:

>>81414173
Where the hell have you been? That's the most popular rhetoric to use on anyone who didn't like it. That and "you must not read comic books".

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 19:35:23 No.81414232 Report

Quoted By: >>81414299

>>81414173
Not exactly. It's more of an analysis of the general ideas and themes rather than debating the execution of them

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 19:36:44 No.81414270 Report

Quoted By:

>>81414173

It's kind of the opposite for me, I think the movie's themes were pretty damn simple and explicitly stated within the context of the film.

It genuinely baffles me when people say that the characters were poorly developed or contradictory, or that there was no message or clear theme in the movie.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 19:38:02 No.81414299 Report

Quoted By: >>81414335 >>81414422

>>81414232

This. Hypercrisis discussions rely on a huge amount of Death of the Author, Even if we can make all these cool connections within the characters and themes of BvS, I doubt that all of them were intentional.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 19:39:45 No.81414335 Report

Quoted By:

>>81414299
And of course half of the fun in the hypercrisis are those unintended connections that just make a lot of sense; the idea of a self-generating narrative

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 19:42:52 No.81414422 Report

Quoted By: >>81414485

>>81414299
> This has been the most rigorous intellectual exercise I’ve had in my writing life.
from a guy who
>graduated in 1997 from Harvard University, where he concentrated in English literature and German phenomenology

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 19:43:24 No.81414440 Report

Quoted By: >>81414514

>>81414173
Hypercrisis has always been 2deep4u fucking newfag

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 19:44:04 No.81414463 Report

Quoted By:

>chris's interview confirms everything we see in the movie

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 19:44:52 No.81414485 Report

Quoted By: >>81414551 >>81414638 >>81414712

>>81414422

I don't doubt that Terrio knows what he's talking about, but I'm pretty sure he was exaggerating that statement in the interview.

I said this in another thread, but I wish we had a better breakdown of what Terrio specifically wrote, what Goyer wrote, and how Snyder's direction oversaw all of it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 19:45:12 No.81414491 Report

Quoted By: >>81414527

I just realized that the Justice League, just like both versions of the Seven Soldiers of Victory, is a team of seven that has eight members.
There's the original team of Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Aquaman, Green Lantern, Flash and Martian Manhunter. But with the New 52 brought Cyborg on as an original member of the team. A team of seven made up of eight members.

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 19:46:06 No.81414514 Report

Quoted By: >>81414540 >>81414553

>>81414440

Thanks for your insightful reply. I will not readily dismiss Hypercrisis threads ever again.

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 19:46:47 No.81414527 Report

Quoted By:

>>81414491
>counting Cyborg as a member
Fuck off Johns

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 19:47:24 No.81414540 Report

Quoted By: >>81414570 >>81415084 >>81428288

>>81414514
He's pretty right though, we've always dug deep on these things.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 19:47:43 No.81414551 Report

Quoted By:

>>81414485

You can certainly make guesses and Terrio seems like a good writer honestly. I think a stronger director is really in order.

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 19:47:49 No.81414553 Report

Quoted By:

>>81414514
You're welcome friend :^)

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 19:48:03 No.81414570 Report

Quoted By: >>81415084 >>81438174

>>81414540

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 19:49:00 No.81414638 Report

Quoted By: >>81414712 >>81414730

>>81414485
From what I can tell, Terrio wrote everything up until the senate bombing as up until then it felt more like a political movie. After that Batman went psycho and it turned into punchy punchy smashy smashy, which is probably what Goyer wrote. Goyer/Snyder definitely came up with the Martha ending to the fight.

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 19:51:02 No.81414712 Report

Quoted By:

>>81414485
>>81414638
read the interview posted above, and tell me if there's anything stated about the movie on here that doesn't coincide with the bits of information he puts in there

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 19:51:43 No.81414730 Report

Quoted By: >>81414848 >>81414886 >>81414905

>>81414638
>After that Batman went psycho

Batman was already on the edge of psycho, of course a suicide bombing in the capitol that Superman apparently failed to stop WHILE HE WAS PRESENT would drive him over the edge and make him realize that something had to be done immediately.

>Goyer/Snyder definitely came up with the Martha ending to the fight.

Affleck's delivery of those lines was pretty fucking hammy but I actually thought that was an effective way of doing it.

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 19:55:21 No.81414848 Report

Quoted By: >>81429866

>>81414730
I liked Affleck's delivery there. He sounded more menacing than Bale ever did.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 19:56:17 No.81414886 Report

Quoted By: >>81414954 >>81415073 >>81429866

>>81414730
I don't think the MARTHA idea was all that bad, the problem of it was all the flashbacks to remind us that Batman's mom was named Martha as if we just forgot.

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 19:56:46 No.81414905 Report

Quoted By: >>81414954 >>81418952

>>81414730

Batman lost a lot of his charmnin the second half though. He played detective pretty nicely until then. He doesn't go full on BAT OF MURDER until the second half.

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 19:58:14 No.81414946 Report

Quoted By: >>81415039

>>81409011
>Superman began as a god
>Overtime he evolved into a symbol
>Fredric Wertham wrote Seduction of the Innocent
>Set back comics for decades
>Held back the evolution of Superheroes and humanity
>Bent the world to his will
>Final Crisis shows that Darkseid can inhabit a human host body
>Wertham was Darkseid breaking into Earth 33
>Seduction of the Innocent was an unfinished Anti-Life Equation

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 19:58:32 No.81414954 Report

Quoted By: >>81415073

>>81414886
>he problem of it was all the flashbacks to remind us that Batman's mom was named Martha as if we just forgot.

Oh yeah that's pretty stupid. Not going to try and defend that.

>>81414905

I think it was intentional. I mean Alfred already spent that first half of the movie warning him to back off, then WHOOPS GUESS WHAT HAPPENS.

Really Batman's whole arc I think can be summarized as "comes dangerously close to becoming Lex Luthor before he realizes his mistake"

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 20:01:25 No.81415039 Report

Quoted By: >>81415169 >>81415504 >>81429340

>>81414946

Oh please. Seduction of the Innocent was just human stupidity and the periodic need for a moral outraged panic. I think ascribing that to one individual is giving him too much credit.

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 20:02:12 No.81415073 Report

Quoted By: >>81415214

>>81414886
>>81414954
The flashback was supposed to be for the normies, bu have you seen all of the normies who think they became besties because both of their moms name was Martha instead of realizing that it was Batman realizing he had become Joe Chill that made him friends with Superman?

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 20:02:40 No.81415084 Report

Quoted By: >>81415838

>>81414540
>>81414570
Where did you get this from? Is there website with all the other ones as well?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 20:05:49 No.81415169 Report

Quoted By: >>81415504 >>81429340

>>81415039
Yeah, in this situation Wertham was a manipulator like Desaad or the Glorious Godfrey. In this situation, Darkseid would be Senator Robert Hendrikson.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 20:06:55 No.81415214 Report

Quoted By: >>81437628

>>81415073

Yeah I thought it was pretty silly how people misunderstood his motivations so badly in that scene.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 20:08:47 No.81415274 Report

Quoted By:

>from the same studio that released the matrix, inception

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 20:15:03 No.81415435 Report

Quoted By:

>our own culture has different sides who are currently striving for power while not recognizing their internal contradictions
>perhaps our own world also has a seemingly harmless entity who plays both sides in order that they may destroy each other
>as individuals and as a collective we must face our doubts and our fears

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 20:17:49 No.81415504 Report

Quoted By: >>81416023 >>81429340

>>81415169
>>81415039
>modern trend to take male white characters and turn them into women or minorities starts with Laura Hudson from ComicsAlliance and whatsername from the Mary Sue
>they are the modern female version of Wertham, Deesad and Glorious Godfrey
P O T T E R Y
O
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T
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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 20:20:14 No.81415573 Report

Quoted By:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C16eiQH06RE [Embed]
https://youtu.be/yUtW6KIdtxE [Embed]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNujOlEeQMg [Embed]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGPIhrSvhZg [Embed]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7UX81BXIc0 [Embed]
>spectator media
>bvs is spectator media and yet....

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 20:30:11 No.81415807 Report

Quoted By: >>81415859

>in the kingdom come thread there are anons who barely just noticed a detail in a comic that is oh so beloved to them
>yet the things we see in BvS are not there

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 20:31:26 No.81415838 Report

Quoted By: >>81415938

>>81415084
I think some are linked in here: http://journal.transformativeworks.org/index.php/twc/article/view/442/397

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 20:32:11 No.81415859 Report

Quoted By: >>81415948 >>81416020

>>81415807
What is the detail?

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 20:35:00 No.81415938 Report

Quoted By:

>>81415838
And this being said I was here for some of the earlier stuff so I don't know what is and isn't in there. What I have is from my own personal backups. Like I have part of one of the "Gotham wants to fuck Tim Drake" threads but I don't have images apparently.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 20:35:22 No.81415948 Report

Quoted By: >>81415997 >>81417191

>>81415859
reflection on the cover

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 20:37:10 No.81415997 Report

Quoted By: >>81416039

>>81415948
How could someone miss that?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 20:37:47 No.81416020 Report

Quoted By: >>81417191

>>81415859
i expanded the image and look around for a bit, noticed the reflection on the emerald table is the 'other side' of heroes in the conflict
i scrolled down and some anon said that the table having that reflection is a nice touch, anons said that even while cherishing that book for years they didn't notice
further still there are interpretations that basically say the comic is deconstruction and critique of comics in the 90s
all this, yet they say we are reading too much into BvS

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 20:37:52 No.81416023 Report

Quoted By: >>81429340

>>81415504
>New 52 restored the New Gods
>Splintered into fragments across the Multiverse
>tumblr is turning our superheroes into furies

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 20:38:30 No.81416039 Report

Quoted By:

>>81415997
exactly my thoughts. Noticed it on my first viewing years ago.

I guess the majority of people don't spend enough time on the artwork of comics.

Which is quite sad, especially with KC

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 20:49:39 No.81416403 Report

Quoted By: >>81416716

>>81414194
I thought for sure it was Hal

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 20:51:41 No.81416465 Report

Quoted By:

>>81412678
If it's the Cerebus crossover I'm willing to bet that Sim was the driving force behind that notion.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 20:59:09 No.81416716 Report

Quoted By:

>>81416403
No you're right anon it is Hal. I had to zoom in to see the ring

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 21:14:21 No.81417191 Report

Quoted By: >>81417310 >>81418984

>>81416020
>>81415948

Are you guys shitting me? How do you not notice that?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 21:17:15 No.81417310 Report

Quoted By: >>81417380

>>81417191
>/co/
>Reading comics
>Paying attention

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 21:19:38 No.81417380 Report

Quoted By: >>81417712

>>81417310

It took me a long time to figure out that I need to be paying attention to more in comics than just the speech bubbles.

In my defense I was a really stupid teenager. I think the first comic I read that really forced me to slow down and take in the details of the art was Frank Miller's Ronin

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 21:20:00 No.81417388 Report

Quoted By: >>81417474

any1 have all the justice league comics ?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 21:22:55 No.81417474 Report

Quoted By:

>>81417388

ALL of them? I'm sure someone out there does.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 21:30:44 No.81417712 Report

Quoted By:

>>81417380

Going from reading manga to American comics takes a lot of adjusting. I have noticed most manga fans struggle jumping in at first because the way stories are told is usually so different.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 21:36:00 No.81417864 Report

Quoted By:

>>81411423
Primer is the best time travel movie ever. Their is no discussion needed. Find a stream and watch it /co/mrade

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 21:44:22 No.81418117 Report

Quoted By:

>>81407679
As an add-on to this, one of the ships from the Multiversity map is straight up womb-shaped

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 21:48:06 No.81418237 Report

Quoted By:

>>81407679
>ultramenstruum post ends in 52

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 21:48:19 No.81418245 Report

Quoted By: >>81428543

>>81407642
>this gets updated to include the paining from BvS

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 21:58:12 No.81418561 Report

Quoted By: >>81418619 >>81419062

>>81408713
Superman is going to outlive us.
Same with Spider-Man, Luke Skywalker, Godzilla, Mickey Mouse, Bugs Bunny and all major pop culture symbols.

Even if something wipes most of mankind in a near future, there will be someone who will reminisce abour our heroes and villains, and will pass their stories to the surviving generations over and over until they become some sort of new mythology.
Like that scene from Reign of Fire with Christian Bale re-enacting the Luke vs. Darth Vader scene from episode 4 to a group of kids few decades after the world ended.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 22:00:32 No.81418619 Report

Quoted By:

>>81418561

You ever read the Canticle of Leibowitz?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 22:12:33 No.81418952 Report

Quoted By:

>>81414905
The bombing on the senate really drove him over the edge.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 22:14:00 No.81418984 Report

Quoted By: >>81419015

>>81417191
Seriously. I noticed it the first time I ever read it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 22:15:31 No.81419015 Report

Quoted By: >>81419075

>>81418984

I noticed it the first time I saw the cover. But sometimes people miss really obvious things. God knows I've done that before.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 22:17:08 No.81419062 Report

Quoted By: >>81429109

>>81418561
>Luke vs. Darth Vader scene
>episode 4
Holy shit I hate you so much I wish I could die

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 22:17:37 No.81419075 Report

Quoted By:

>>81419015
I'm ashamed to say I didn't notice that Clark and Bruce's mothers had the same name until a few weeks ago. I mean, I knew, but I never really made any connection because I don't remember it ever being brought up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 22:34:50 No.81419537 Report

Quoted By: >>81419604 >>81438418

Anyone have the pics going into the Dragon in the Mirror with Pyg and Arkham and such?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 22:36:45 No.81419604 Report

Quoted By:

>>81419537

I have part of it

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Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 22:49:35 No.81420020 Report

Quoted By: >>81420189 >>81420353

We managed to kind of associate each JLA member with a planet and organ. Alchemy has also linked certain metals to the 7 planets...

Superman = Gold/Sun
Batman = Silver/Moon
Wonder Woman = Copper/Venus
the Flash = Mercury/Mercury
Green Lantern = Lead/Saturn
Aquaman = Tin/Jupiter
Martian Manhunter = Iron/Mars

I still don't think MM is a proper representation of Mars. Sure he's a Martian but does he really embody the aggressive and warlike tendencies of the red planet?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 22:55:04 No.81420189 Report

Quoted By:

>>81420020
As much as I hate to say it... by that chart, Cyborg fits better than MM

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 23:01:27 No.81420353 Report

Quoted By: >>81420432 >>81422380

>>81420020
Replace Silver with Platinum and you have the Metal Men.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Apr 2016 23:03:49 No.81420432 Report

Quoted By: >>81422380

>>81420353

The Justice miniseries had several of the League members matched up to a Metal Men for armor, but which ones they got were more determined by plot than symbolism. (Aquaman and Batman had their own armor for example and didn't need it)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 00:07:21 No.81422380 Report

Quoted By:

>>81420353
>>81420432
Earth 44 in the new 52 has:
>Gold Superman
>Iron Batman
>Platinum Wonder Woman
>Mercury Flash
>Nth Metal Hawkman
>Tin Elongated Man
>Lead Green Arrow

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 00:12:02 No.81422524 Report

Quoted By: >>81424552

>>81407875
Ms Marvel is Shiva

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 00:13:31 No.81422572 Report

Quoted By:

>>81407248
are you ignoring the basic night apsectz

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 00:51:50 No.81423989 Report

Quoted By: >>81424552

>>81411157
For that hot second that Catwoman was part of the league could she be either Aphrodite or Persephone due to her relationship with Batman?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 01:07:59 No.81424552 Report

Quoted By: >>81428394

>>81422524
wut?

>>81423989
Depends on who your Batman and Catwoman are.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 02:34:27 No.81427913 Report

Quoted By: >>81427987 >>81428189

Well note that Superman was based on Old Testement heroes Samson and Old World Myth Hercules.

Wonder Woman was a new Testemant mesianic figure. Jesus had a main focus on love,which is Diana's defining trait sense Marston,Di had Aphrodite as a patron and named and has skills of artemis.There is a fun Virgin Whore context to read between those two contexts, as the Lover and Warrior Woman aspects have tugged and warred over the decades. Espeically given Di's sexuality.(The goddes of sex and the virgin goddess of warrioes, whoda thunk)

Flash is based on Mercury. Mercury, Hermes, Thoth,Odin and Hermes Trimegistus were cobflated gods of Speed, communication and media, arts, language and magic(they tend to have ivented poetry, magic and/or language and the written word which are often the same thing) daily reminder comics come out on Wednesday, named for wodan

Aquaman is atlantean, Atlas the first atlantan was a son of Poseidon. Atlantis and Themescyria warred in Flashppoint, a riff how in Myth, Atlantis and the Amazons had a major war, with Amazons as synbols of an ultimate Matriarchal culture and Atlantis as the ultimate patriarchal culture. The amazons won, burnt a city down ,killed all the men of puberty.age and enslaved everyone else, but Atlantis was so charitable in defeat and gave so much honor to Queen Myrna, she became close friends with them and teamed went to kill there sworn enemies the Gorgons. they lost.

Cyborg is a clear forge god type, Steel was also this. note steel as a sucessor to Superman,as Vulcan was a son of the sky father.

Plastic Man was made as a Baccus Dionysean character, but Grant and others injected Looney toones aspects into him. squash and stretch cartoons and guys like Bug Bunny are modern aspects of trickster deities. Often animals or animal like, like Brer Rabbit, Coyote or Satyrs. note Dionyseus was a foriegn god, just as Plastic Man came from a foreign company(Quality)

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Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 02:36:39 No.81427987 Report

Quoted By: >>81428189 >>81430936

>>81427913
Batman, has his origins in pulp fiction and semi historical vigilantes, as well as opera . But he has taken a Boogeyman style persona. Akin to Sac Man and Pucca

Green Lantern is based on the myth of Aladin and the Genie and his latern.

The idea of a flame of willpower has Promethean connotations, and Apollo also of the flame has association with arts and imaginition as do lanterns.

This also gives a cool loop back, Flash and Lantern have a set relationship like Supes and Bats. First as the flagship characters of All American Comics (just as Supes and Bats were for Detective Comics) then as the archons of the silver age.

Note Flash's association with Electricity, and Green Lanterns with Light, aka the Electromagentic Spectrum, Electromagnetism was the first of the fundament forces to be unified. Both the Speed Force and the Emotional Spectrum have been associated with will and creativitity. And the Lantern corps use power batteries,evoking classic Electromagnetic induction.

Martian Manhunter is a random space cop. So i mean if you want to stretch you can leap from Manhunting to war and then back to Mars. Grant had him and Orion both die at the start of Final Crisis, bamed D.O.A. the God of War.

Hawkgirl has the whole egyotuan reincarnarional angle, even though egyptians didnt believe in reincarnation, but transmigration.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 02:37:42 No.81428017 Report

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Batman-Superman-Wonder Woman-Batman works as a Trinity. First off, Bats and Supes have that classic day/night dictonomy. They were the pillars of Detective/ National comics. There is also the Man vs God aspect, note Grant made Bruces opposite into Prometheus .Wonder Woman was the first analog of Supeman to get popular and absorbed by dc, like Captain Marvel and Apollo. She was desgigned to replace and exceed Superman with power backed by reformartion,love ,civics and feminity.She was designed as propaganda for the type of Woman to take over the world, and in many elseworlds she is more proactive and pro "world bottling". Wonder Woman and Batman share a psychological aspect, Marston was a shrink and used psychological motiffs in his characters, Batman also has a heavy psychology aspect. Diana was partially designed to deal with agressive, independent minded childish boys. Something Bruce embodies. Note this theme in there interactions in dcau(I can take care of myself) Dceu(boys have a problem with sharing) and the dcu(Hikateria). There is also the whole Powerful Buisness man with issues needing domination going on.

Also a fun fact. The JL has seven founding members . 7 is a sacred number in many faiths, Newton even asymetrically divises the Spectrum so it would have 7.

Also if you count all the founding teams you have 12 members
Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman
Flash, Green Lantern
Aquaman, Martian Manhunter, Black Canary, Hawkgirl, Cyborg,Shazam

Note the A-D corespondence. In mytholgies descended from Indo European myths there is a common battle between two groups of deities. One beginning with A the other with D (Asura/Deva,Adityas/Danavas,Ahura/Daeva,Angels/Demons) (Note outliers in Norse with Aesir/Vanir or the Gaelic Tuatha de Danan/Aos Si)
This war is thought to stem from a cultural crisis of indo europeans ,with two functions of first-(magico-juridical) and second-(warrior) function taking a third.

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Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 02:38:42 No.81428048 Report

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Modern DC was founded when Detective/National Comics first split and then absorbed All American comics. Superman as the warrior of one function(National) and Batman as the magico-juridal(Detective) who conqueted the third (All-American) (there is also Autobors vs Decepticons)
Looking at the Aesir Vanir war, note Freyja being absorbed into the winning side, just as Wonder Woman was absorbed into DC from All American.

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Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 02:41:00 No.81428118 Report

Quoted By: >>81428180 >>81428480 >>81428819 >>81434878

What did you guys think of the opening of BvS by the way? What with the bats raising Bruce up, christlike. It was the most BatGod scene to ever BatGod and I loved every second of it, and this is someone who didn't care for the movie.
Also I was thinking the other day how BvS perfectly sets up Morrison's take on Batman, the (initial) premise of which was to take the Batman from the 90s/00s who had been through tragedy after tragedy and had become bitter and angry, and try to bring light back into him. Batman at the end of BvS seems to have a renewed purpose in life, perhaps even hope, following the teachings of Superman as others have commented. Kinda similar to Batman post-Final Crisis. Instead of the Batman movie going full TDKR or Under the Hood etc I'd love to see them tackle something like Batman Inc.

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Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 02:42:58 No.81428180 Report

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>>81428118
i'm interested to see what morrison thought of bvs

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Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 02:43:22 No.81428189 Report

Quoted By: >>81428437

>>81427987
>>81427913

>not Green Lantern as forge god/weaponer

You blew it.

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Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 02:46:02 No.81428288 Report

Quoted By:

>>81414540

Oh I know the rabbit hole is more or less bottomless, I just had to laugh at the newfag comment. Pretty sure I was browsing 4chan before /co/ even existed.

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Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 02:48:57 No.81428394 Report

Quoted By:

>>81424552
Sorry I meant Krishna.

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Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 02:49:57 No.81428437 Report

Quoted By:

>>81428189
Green Lantern isnt a forge god. he is a will, imagnition god.

Thus the flame and apollion motifs.

Steel and Cyborg are the forgers

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Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 02:51:00 No.81428480 Report

Quoted By:

>>81428118
Thats why Bruce founds the jl

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Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 02:52:33 No.81428543 Report

Quoted By: >>81429075

>>81418245
What eclipse

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Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 02:55:33 No.81428651 Report

Quoted By: >>81428845

>>81407875
marvel does fours, not sevens

Earth water wind fire

Golden age

Cap, Namor,Whizer, Human Torch

Silver age

Ben,Reed,Sue,Johny

Its why Hickman had an 8 fetish and why Grant made them earth 8

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 03:00:09 No.81428819 Report

Quoted By:

>>81428118
>What did you guys think of the opening of BvS by the way? What with the bats raising Bruce up, christlike. It was the most BatGod scene to ever BatGod and I loved every second of it, and this is someone who didn't care for the movie.

Batman himself calls it a lie though, but I'm inclined to chalk it up as his current mindset where he sees his role as a superhero as a never-ending burden rather than a sainted duty.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 03:01:10 No.81428845 Report

Quoted By: >>81429019

>>81428651

Multiversity itself had motif of eights and octaves, although that's more in reference of musical theory and the DCU's structure around harmonic frequencies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 03:06:11 No.81429019 Report

Quoted By: >>81429069

>>81428845
Seven Soldiers has the theme of eights masquerading as sevens.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 03:07:26 No.81429061 Report

Quoted By: >>81429163

>>81408540

Its because all Superman stories nowadays are stories ABOUT Superman and not Superman stories.

Siegel and Shuster and Swan and shit werent wanking over supermans place and meaning,they just told good stories.

Talk like "how can we save/ fix character X" just makes it worse

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 03:07:37 No.81429069 Report

Quoted By: >>81429289

>>81429019
>>81429019
>masquerading as sevens

?

It's been awhile since I've read Seven Soldiers, how do you mean?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 03:07:56 No.81429075 Report

Quoted By:

>>81428543
The painting in Lex's house of the angels and demons has an eclipse at the top of the demon part when he flips it upside down.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 03:08:31 No.81429109 Report

Quoted By:

>>81410541
Cmon son.>>81419062
Wat

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Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 03:09:54 No.81429163 Report

Quoted By: >>81429929 >>81438510

>>81429061

Up, Up and Away is one of my favorite Superman stories of all time, because while it asks some questions about the relation between Superman and Clark Kent, it answers those through very simple character pieces and interactions. It lets the characters speak for themselves through their actions and how they address problems.

I just really love how Busiek and Johns both have great talents for making superheroes very believable, relateable heroes without relying on making them darker or full of flaws.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 03:13:38 No.81429289 Report

Quoted By:

>>81429069
In Seven Soldiers there are many groups of what appears to be seven that turns out to be groups of eight. From the original Seven Soldiers of Victory, which had seven member plus Wing to thenew Seven Soldiers, which had seven members plus I Spyder, to things that seem innocuous, such as Zatanna's support group having seven members plus Misty.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 03:13:51 No.81429298 Report

Quoted By:

>>81408847
>>81408877
>>81408886
>>81408922
>>81408937

its not weird, it was a product of there times.

Times change, no need to be a dick about it

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 03:14:55 No.81429340 Report

Quoted By: >>81435588

>>81415039
>>81415169
>>81415504
>>81416023

are you retarded?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 03:19:14 No.81429471 Report

Quoted By:

>>81412729
Terrio>>81412822
Link plz

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 03:20:22 No.81429500 Report

Quoted By:

>>81411216
Seriously, man?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 03:22:10 No.81429548 Report

Quoted By:

>>81412074
>>81412016
Thats how the earths work

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Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 03:33:10 No.81429855 Report

Quoted By:

>>81407990
>Now onto the liver. In Greek mythology Prometheus would would have his liver eaten by a bird everyday as punishment for giving the gift of fire to human. This gift of fire could possibly be interpreted as the Starheart, though I don't know who would be punished in this situation

Spitballing, first thought is Martian Manhunter due to his vulnerability to fire, although that doesn't address the "Prometheus punished for giving fire to humans" thing (unless you take his role as the one linking element that connects all pre-Flashpoint Justice Leagues together, meaning he is the one who serves to ensure there will always BE a League).

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Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 03:33:31 No.81429866 Report

Quoted By: >>81429931

>>81414886
>>81414848
Batman dragging Supes like a bagged deer because THEY WERE HUNTERS was so blunt it was comical

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Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 03:35:52 No.81429929 Report

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>>81429163
Yup

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Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 03:35:53 No.81429931 Report

Quoted By: >>81430211

>>81429866

...I actually didn't catch that until you pointed it out.

Fuck me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 03:46:49 No.81430211 Report

Quoted By:

>>81429931
It was so fucking looney tunes with Kals cape dragging and batman lugging along like that

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 03:52:14 No.81430354 Report

Quoted By: >>81450222

Can somebody get a screencap at 52m exactly in BvS?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 03:56:44 No.81430469 Report

Quoted By: >>81430543

>>81408826
It's been a common element of Superman since the second original movie: Superman always kills Zod.

Where the movies (yes, both of them) get it wrong is the act itself and the effects on Supes afterward: in the comics, it was a ritualized execution by kryptonite, and he suffers so much guilt over the act that he suffers a psychotic break from reality (turning into the non-powered Gangbuster for a while) and exiles himself to space to try and find his center again.

In the movies, it is an act of battle and he shrugs it off and goes on as if nothing has changed, smiling for the camera as he swoops around in space. If anything, MoS actually gives him a moment of grieving before he's back to macking on Lois.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 03:59:29 No.81430543 Report

Quoted By: >>81431362

>>81430469
They had a great opportunity in BvS to show us a more human, warmer Clark but nope, 10 minutes in and he's throwing people through multiple walls.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 04:16:08 No.81430936 Report

Quoted By: >>81432918

>>81427987
>Hawkgirl has the whole egyotuan reincarnarional angle, even though egyptians didnt believe in reincarnation, but transmigration.

Isn't transmigration and reincarnation essentially the same thing, the passage of a soul into a new body?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 04:33:09 No.81431362 Report

Quoted By: >>81431406

>>81430543
"Missed Opportunites: The Movie" seems to be BvS's alternate title, but that's a convo for a different thread.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 04:35:21 No.81431406 Report

Quoted By:

>>81431362

I really loved BvS but even I'll cop to that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 05:38:19 No.81432918 Report

Quoted By:

>>81430936
In egypt, your soul has six parts, whe you die you dont "die" the parts just disperse,thus mummfocation and such.

Death to egypt was just moving to a new land run by gods

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 07:10:08 No.81434878 Report

Quoted By: >>81436102 >>81437732

>>81428118
>bruce risen up by bats into the light
>enlightenment
>it was a lie
>by the end of the movie, he achieved actual truth

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 07:46:01 No.81435588 Report

Quoted By:

>>81429340
Ask yourself the same question

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Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 08:21:15 No.81436102 Report

Quoted By:

>>81434878
That was beatiful anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 10:47:58 No.81437628 Report

Quoted By: >>81437721

>>81415214

The critics are the Dark Monitor homie.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 10:55:35 No.81437721 Report

Quoted By: >>81437758

>>81437628
Where is our thought robot?

Are we, as in the people who actually enjoyed the film the Thought Robot?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 10:56:30 No.81437732 Report

Quoted By: >>81437791

>>81434878

This.

It fucks me off how no one fucking gets this.

Or when he's talking to Alfred early about "How many good guys are left?" Yet at the end he's saying "Men are still good" to Diana.

Like, I hate being one of those people saying "You didn't like the movie because it went over your head" but for Batman v Superman clearly it went over everyone's fucking head!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 10:58:30 No.81437758 Report

Quoted By:

>>81437721

You mean the miracle machine?

I personally view the viewers who enjoyed the movie to be the many Supermen from the Multiverse / The Green Lantern Corp.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 11:03:20 No.81437791 Report

Quoted By: >>81437831

>>81437732
that actually got to me...
with the state of the world and how there's completely unnecessary violence that's made to happen by people in power...
the idea that maybe men are still good, men that have power that are still good..

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 11:07:59 No.81437831 Report

Quoted By: >>81438030

>>81437791

The movie is fucking modern mythology come to life. If that shit about the Darkseid vision coming at the 52 minute mark is true (also notice that the Flash - Morrison's Hermes - is the deliverer of that vision) then it's even better than I thought.

And it's making me believe in the fucking Hypercrisis. I took a lot of Morrison's mysticism with a grain of salt, but now...

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 11:28:56 No.81438030 Report

Quoted By: >>81438129

>>81437831
morrison thinks all life is one organism with us being the cells of it's brain, i've already gotten to the point of thinking that all life is 'sacred', with me being in no way 'higher' than other creatures for being able to do some things they can't. morrison's ideas aren't that far of a leap anymore, especially since the movie itself actually elevates the presentation of comics while also presenting very real metaphysical notions through the way it erased the lines between real and fantasy, literal and figurative, inner and outer space in it's narrative.
the way it ultimately says that no figure no matter how powerful is a person to be worshiped....shit these are all things i had already been struggling with for years and then i go into a theater, a place that already resembles the way we ourselves experience the world projects all these things in my head
i came out of the theater genuinely weirded out, and this whole time i've been analyzing the movie i've never once cared to prove anything, only that these things are actually there...and the more time goes on i'm affirmed again and again that's it's not just in my head

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 11:37:59 No.81438129 Report

Quoted By: >>81438290

>>81438030

When I came out of the theater for the first viewing of Batman v Superman it felt like I had just experienced this weird fever dream of the divine and comic book characters. There have been a lot of complaints about the lack of establishing shots, but to me it added to the experience.

It's like if you're going to present something divine to me it can't make total sense, because if it makes total sense how can it be divine? Wouldn't it just be basic knowledge then.

Yet even though it felt mad it also did make a kind of sense, but not a sense easily defined, because it felt like some sort of burning bush telling me to free Israelites (not literally but figuratively).

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Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 11:42:45 No.81438174 Report

Quoted By:

>>81414570
Damn, man.

The Gentry initializes you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 11:52:53 No.81438290 Report

Quoted By: >>81438317 >>81438396

>>81438129
>weird fever dream of the divine and comic book characters
that's exactly how i felt too. i was certain that it didn't deserve the shit it was getting and then spent the rest of the night thinking i about clark's sacrifice, what it means in our own world, how completely true the movie is while at the same time being just a movie
i mean i pretty much also felt pretty fucking lucid during the doomsday fight..... that's part of the reason i'm trying to quantify it so much, because all of what i describe is pretty much what was happening within my own mind which is precisely it, this movie at the very least tries to enter the mind like nothing i've seen before. i don't know. my take as of now is that the movie functions as a vision for the individual just like how batman had his vision

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Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 11:55:12 No.81438317 Report

Quoted By: >>81438384

>>81438290
>the movie functions as a vision for the individual just like how batman had his vision

And his own vision was given to him by The Flash.

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Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 12:02:16 No.81438384 Report

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>>81438317
and who is giving us the bvs vision? or rather, where is this vision coming from?

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Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 12:02:43 No.81438396 Report

Quoted By: >>81438547 >>81465029

>>81438290

I just saw it for my second time, completely feeling what you're feeling.

The death scene is so powerful.

Also, I took two of my non comic reader friends to see it. One of them complained the whole time, during the fucking movie, about how edgy it was and the other one said that he prefered 'That ultron one. This one didn't have enough humour'.

Wake me up from this knightmare.

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Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 12:04:45 No.81438418 Report

Quoted By: >>81438429 >>81438501

>>81419537
yo

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Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 12:05:25 No.81438429 Report

Quoted By: >>81438440 >>81438501

>>81438418

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Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 12:06:20 No.81438440 Report

Quoted By: >>81438449 >>81438501 >>81438566 >>81439980

>>81438429

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Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 12:07:32 No.81438449 Report

Quoted By: >>81438481 >>81438501 >>81439980

>>81438440

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Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 12:07:46 No.81438451 Report

Quoted By: >>81444997

>>81407720
>tfw someone capped and saved my crazy swamp thing/green lantern theory and it gets reposted

It really does make me feel nice that hypercrisis posters liked it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 12:10:46 No.81438476 Report

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>>81411179
I think he means Die Antwoord are the inspiration for Harley and Joker, even if Harley does dress like Deb.

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Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 12:11:05 No.81438481 Report

Quoted By: >>81438501

>>81438449
also relevant. the dragon being cast out by the sun, so to speak

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Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 12:12:30 No.81438493 Report

Quoted By: >>81438502

>>81407878
yeah actually

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Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 12:13:20 No.81438501 Report

Quoted By: >>81438597

>>81438418
>>81438429
>>81438440
>>81438449
>>81438481
You're a real gem, lad

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Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 12:13:27 No.81438502 Report

Quoted By: >>81438516

>>81438493

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Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 12:14:18 No.81438510 Report

Quoted By: >>81438524

>>81429163
such a based run

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Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 12:14:36 No.81438512 Report

Quoted By: >>81449629

it's creepy that all of this are connected somehow.

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Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 12:15:09 No.81438516 Report

Quoted By: >>81438541

>>81438502

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Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 12:15:57 No.81438524 Report

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>>81438510

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Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 12:17:36 No.81438541 Report

Quoted By: >>81438550

>>81438516
for those not keeping up, the current Standoff event revolves around another cosmic cube being named Kobik. I like to call her Molecule Miss.

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Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 12:17:53 No.81438547 Report

Quoted By: >>81438594

>>81438396
i went in not wanting it to be anything in particular
and was shocked by what i saw

it's absolute balls to the wall with the gain dialed to 10. part of what 'worries' me is thinking about what's coming next...
"demons don't come from hell below us. no, they come from the sky"

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Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 12:18:29 No.81438550 Report

Quoted By: >>81438561 >>81438690

>>81438541

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Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 12:19:03 No.81438561 Report

Quoted By:

>>81438550
DUN DUN DUN

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 12:19:25 No.81438566 Report

Quoted By: >>81438588 >>81438596

>>81438440
What comic?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 12:21:56 No.81438588 Report

Quoted By:

>>81438566
Arkham Asylum: A Serious House on Serious Earth.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 12:22:43 No.81438594 Report

Quoted By: >>81438623 >>81438742

>>81438547
>demons don't come from hell below us. no, they come from the sky

He's coming, anon. If that doesn't scare you, it should.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 12:22:49 No.81438596 Report

Quoted By:

>>81438566
Grant Morrison's Arkham Asylum

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 12:22:53 No.81438597 Report

Quoted By: >>81438723

>>81438501
no worries. Seeing these was what made me finally get off my ass and read some goddamned Batman after spending the past two years getting into Marvel.

Also I reckon there's something really profound here with imagination being the last voice of reason

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 12:25:02 No.81438623 Report

Quoted By: >>81438653 >>81438742

>>81438594

I'm worried it's actually gonna be closer to this abortion.

>they'll never be smart enough to set up True Darkseid from nu52seid

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 12:28:03 No.81438653 Report

Quoted By: >>81438715 >>81438742 >>81438751

>>81438623
He's gonna be nothing but a character for supes to wail on.

It's such a shame. I would love to see him ala Final Crisis.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 12:31:37 No.81438690 Report

Quoted By: >>81438732 >>81438788

>>81438550
Is there nae a part six? Also, does this link to DC Hypercrisis at all?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 12:33:16 No.81438715 Report

Quoted By: >>81438742 >>81449675

>>81438653
Me too. Final Crisis Darkseid is literally best Darkseid.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 12:33:46 No.81438723 Report

Quoted By: >>81438762

>>81438597
>posting a page that nudges me into the rabbit hole
why anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 12:34:37 No.81438732 Report

Quoted By:

>>81438690
The MU is part of the DC multiverse famalam

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 12:35:45 No.81438742 Report

Quoted By: >>81438774

>>81438623
>>81438653
>>81438594
>>81438715
terrio has cited inspiration from morrison, bvs had a lot of veiled esotericism... who knows...

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 12:36:32 No.81438751 Report

Quoted By: >>81438833 >>81439313

>>81438653
this shit right here, man

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 12:37:11 No.81438762 Report

Quoted By: >>81438789

>>81438723

Did you come to a Hypercrisis thread expecting anything less?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 12:39:10 No.81438774 Report

Quoted By:

>>81438742
>bvs had a lot of veiled esotericism...

That's putting it mildly.

Not that I'm complaining. It's why I love comics and DC in particular.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 12:40:21 No.81438788 Report

Quoted By:

>>81438690
it got made before Secret Wars II ended. If someone makes a part six I imagine it'll actually look into the subtext of Doom being Ramun Alal as well as combing Standoff for information about Kobik

it's related to hypercrisis in the same innate way that all comics establish, borrow, reuse and reinvent symbols which when lined up in a row tell a story above and beyond any one author's scope.

in this case the implication that cosmic cubes are the 'eggs' of beyonders who are evolved mapmakers who are evolved adaptoids who are derived from cosmic cubes suggests that beyonders are artificial, post-clarke mechanical beings with no evolutionary beginning or end, which reinforces the notion that while DC is organic, Marvel is a machine

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 12:40:26 No.81438789 Report

Quoted By: >>81438825

>>81438762
lol
blogpost:
i read that comic when it came out during my brief comic phase in middle school when i'd go to the bookstore on weekends and read shit.
it's stayed with me more than anything else i've read
especially the joker

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 12:42:55 No.81438825 Report

Quoted By: >>81438888 >>81438962 >>81445076 >>81445101 >>81459623

>>81438789
Joker was great in Batman RIP

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 12:43:49 No.81438833 Report

Quoted By: >>81438983

>>81438751
this is the page that always gets me going

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 12:49:10 No.81438888 Report

Quoted By: >>81438941 >>81447745

>>81438825
>the world only makes sense if you force it to

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 12:53:38 No.81438941 Report

Quoted By:

>>81438888

Deep cuts right there!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 12:55:32 No.81438962 Report

Quoted By: >>81439080 >>81439100

>>81438825
>Joker wasn't leaving clues at all
>the symbols meant nothing
>Batman was just reading too much into it

The best.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 12:57:05 No.81438983 Report

Quoted By: >>81439054

>>81438833
>because they're just humans, it will take that crowd ages to kill Superman

Darkseid is one sick fuck.

My personal favourite Darkseid moment is when he describes what he is to Batman during the ROBW.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 13:03:56 No.81439054 Report

Quoted By: >>81439118

>>81438983
>I am many things, Kal-El. But here, I am God.

Also, pick related is just so awesome.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 13:06:39 No.81439080 Report

Quoted By:

>>81438962
When I was in high school we had to do a project about a mental disorder and I was reading Batman RIP at the time, and the part when Joker said that Batman was apophenic really stuck with me and I did my project on that, using the comic as an example. I don't usually like Morrison's Batman, but he really hit the nail on the head with that story.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 13:08:04 No.81439100 Report

Quoted By:

>>81438962
it's why I love all the Adam West Batman threads

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 13:09:22 No.81439118 Report

Quoted By: >>81439135 >>81439792

>>81439054
I want the Phoenix to get hit by the Omega Sanction.

What good is the ability to resurrect oneself when all your lives are shitty and end in undignified failure?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 13:11:03 No.81439135 Report

Quoted By:

>>81439118
holy fuck. Didn't think of that. What a sad, ruined existence that would be.

I could perfectly see Darkseid doing it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 13:24:11 No.81439313 Report

Quoted By: >>81439354

>>81438751
Man, the ending to this comic really let me down. All that build up for "it was just a dream".

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 13:27:40 No.81439354 Report

Quoted By: >>81439437

>>81439313
It was stress training to prepare him for the proper fight against Darkseid in Final Crisis.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 13:34:04 No.81439437 Report

Quoted By:

>>81439354
I'm aware. I still wish it had had a more self-contained conclusion.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 13:55:23 No.81439792 Report

Quoted By: >>81439901

>>81439118
how is that any different from its current existence?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 14:02:03 No.81439901 Report

Quoted By:

>>81439792
It could always be worse. Hell, I think the only one who could make a worse punishment than Darkseid would be Lucifer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 14:07:04 No.81439980 Report

Quoted By: >>81440037

>>81438440
>>81438449
Why does it skip from hypercrisis joker3.jpg to hypercrisis joker 5.jpg?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 14:11:25 No.81440037 Report

Quoted By: >>81440064

>>81439980
Even though the order doesn't matter it's to remind me that there is at least one more image out there I either don't have, or saved to the wrong folder somewhere in my pile of crap

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 14:13:27 No.81440064 Report

Quoted By:

>>81440037

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Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 14:35:53 No.81440447 Report

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Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 14:36:46 No.81440456 Report

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Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 14:37:26 No.81440467 Report

Quoted By: >>81440478

>>81440456

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Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 14:38:01 No.81440478 Report

Quoted By: >>81440486

>>81440467

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Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 14:38:32 No.81440486 Report

Quoted By: >>81440498

>>81440478

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Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 14:39:08 No.81440498 Report

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>>81440486

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Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 14:39:41 No.81440511 Report

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Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 15:28:36 No.81441348 Report

Quoted By:

Requesting again for somebody with the BvS camrip to get a proper screencap exactly 52 minutes into the movie, please.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 16:18:44 No.81442359 Report

Quoted By:

>>81412212
your eye reads the comic to the end and thus lets the bad thought (or the Gentry) into your head

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 17:57:28 No.81444914 Report

Quoted By:

Yeah but bvs wasnt a good movie.

It was ok. Better than mos but not good.

It really is like a turn of your brain popcorn flick, but done in this heavy baroque style

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 18:00:50 No.81444997 Report

Quoted By: >>81445041 >>81445049

>>81438451
It inspired my Cyborg pitch.

Basically him as the Swamp Man/Animal Man of the internet, machines science and memes.

Metal Gear meets Atomic Robo

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 18:02:39 No.81445041 Report

Quoted By:

>>81444997

So would the Rithm contact him first? Or would it be more accidental?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 18:02:56 No.81445049 Report

Quoted By: >>81445226

>>81444997
>Can only be penetrated by memes

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 18:03:52 No.81445076 Report

Quoted By: >>81445235

>>81438825
>Diamonds and Clubs
>A literal club for rich people

Holy shit I just got this

And of course all the Black/Red Eros/Thanatos stuff

Spades are shovels for gravediggibf

Hearts are hearts of love

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 18:04:53 No.81445101 Report

Quoted By: >>81445314

>>81438825
I fucking LOVE the idea that Batmans detective style is basically a hypercrisis thread.

In inc he was literally annottaing his own comic

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 18:09:17 No.81445226 Report

Quoted By:

>>81445049
This is legit why I love Cyborg as an a lister for a 21st century JL.

Johns talking about him, realky resonatates.

Imagine beeing plugged in to the whole of human knowledge 24/7.
Cyborgs brain is basically an infinte hypercrisis thread.

He is virtually omnipotent.

There was this great line

>Have you heard this new song?
>I've heard every song.

Like jesus man

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 18:09:34 No.81445235 Report

Quoted By:

>>81445076
Batman of Zur En Arr is right for all the wrong reasons
and that's just beautiful

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 18:12:12 No.81445311 Report

Quoted By:

>Cyborg is a black guy constantly wired into the interent
>So are Nix Wotan and THCB

What does it meme?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 18:12:21 No.81445314 Report

Quoted By: >>81447912

>>81445101
look how happy he is samefagging on cbr

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 18:23:46 No.81445631 Report

Quoted By: >>81445673 >>81445765 >>81465142

I thought I was a Morrison fanboy until this thread. Fuck I've missed so much. Am I retarded?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 18:25:23 No.81445673 Report

Quoted By:

>>81445631
no

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 18:28:41 No.81445765 Report

Quoted By:

>>81445631
No one but Morrison fully understands Morrison.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 18:29:33 No.81445791 Report

Quoted By: >>81446838

There anything from New X-Men that has bearing on any of this? The Sublime concept never came up again did it? The reactive force against evolution as symbolized in a bacterium that's never changed since life began.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 19:02:45 No.81446838 Report

Quoted By: >>81448014

>>81445791
>The Sublime concept never came up again did it?
to the best of my knowledge, no. Pretty much all the other writers felt that answering the question of 'why do mutants get more heat than any other kind of superhuman?' with 'the bacteria wizard did it' was worse than offering no explanation at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 19:35:01 No.81447745 Report

Quoted By: >>81448002

>>81438888
>8 * 4 = 32
>52 - 32 = 20
>DC was only good 20 years ago

The hypercrisis IS real.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 19:41:26 No.81447912 Report

Quoted By: >>81448040

>>81445314
How many other characters have we seen shitposting? There's the SBP page too from Lo3W

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 19:44:33 No.81448002 Report

Quoted By:

>>81447745
goodbye anons, hopefully i drop all of this and never pick it up again

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 19:44:48 No.81448014 Report

Quoted By:

What is the Hypercrisis reading of this?>>81446838
But its obvius why

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 19:45:34 No.81448040 Report

Quoted By: >>81450357

>>81447912
over in Marvel, Loki has an instagram page filled with his exploits, and has written yaoi fanfics

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 20:35:24 No.81449503 Report

Quoted By: >>81465203

Going to read Jack Kirby's Fourth World stuff, lads. Should I read it all at one, like I read all of Forever People at once and then move onto New Gods or should I stagger the reading order?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 20:39:05 No.81449589 Report

Quoted By:

>>81440447
Woah.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 20:40:20 No.81449629 Report

Quoted By:

>>81438512

We make the connections whether it was intended by the authors or not. All of your life is part of a narrative, it's just how you choose to interpret the parts of it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 20:41:48 No.81449675 Report

Quoted By:

>>81438715

Catholic bro here, Darkseid's rule of Earth after it's been infected by Anti-Life is pretty much the best image I can think of to describe Hell in fiction.

That's including Dante's Inferno.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 20:57:51 No.81450201 Report

Quoted By: >>81451184

Is Darkseid War any cop? I enjoyed the much touted Green Lantern one-shot but couldn't be arsed to read the rest.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 20:58:35 No.81450222 Report

Quoted By: >>81453787

>>81430354
>>81411833

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Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 21:03:02 No.81450357 Report

Quoted By: >>81453933

>>81448040
He said funposting, not tumblrposting retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 21:06:31 No.81450476 Report

Quoted By: >>81451627 >>81452625 >>81453024 >>81454214 >>81455721 >>81467540

>tfw i've been right all along
http://pulpklatura.tumblr.com/post/141843209469/batman-v-superman-the-modern-revenge-tragedy

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 21:30:17 No.81451184 Report

Quoted By:

>>81450201

It's okay. Johns' strength is writing characterson a more humanistic level and he's trying too hard to be a symbology-heavy cosmic story, so it doesn't really work.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 21:37:45 No.81451431 Report

Quoted By:

>>81410346
>I don't know how light works

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 21:43:26 No.81451627 Report

Quoted By: >>81451962

>>81450476
Reading this now, maybe a quarter in and it's already sounding bells that I have been looking at BvS entirely the wrong way.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 21:54:01 No.81451962 Report

Quoted By: >>81452668

>>81451627
it actually totally makes sense of the public perception of it to, since bvs dabbles with narrative tropes that maybe people aren't used to seeing in capeshit

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 22:11:18 No.81452625 Report

Quoted By: >>81452731

>>81450476

He ships Wonder Woman and Batman. Opinion discarded. :^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 22:12:21 No.81452668 Report

Quoted By: >>81452798 >>81463434

>>81451962
There's a metatextual interpretation that is unfolding for me: Where Supes is not being, especially in BvS, the hero we expect. This sense seems to be replicating, in the viewer, that what we're being told about this man is different from what we're seeing, though in the end when he sacrifices himself we find that they two were always the same after all.

I'm not quite sure if I've hit the nail yet, but I'm gonna keep hammering at this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 22:13:55 No.81452731 Report

Quoted By: >>81453024

>>81452625
Did you even see the movie? Bruce and Diana were flirting every time they were together.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 22:15:22 No.81452798 Report

Quoted By: >>81455505 >>81463434

>>81452668
I should clarify, replicating in the audience, the same feelings of the people within the narrative have about Superman.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 22:21:04 No.81453024 Report

Quoted By:

>>81452731

I'm just being silly. That was a well written post and I am thankful >>81450476 shared it with us.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 22:44:06 No.81453787 Report

Quoted By: >>81456930

>>81450222
That's 0:51:52 into the movie. I'm asking for exactly 0:52:00.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 22:48:46 No.81453933 Report

Quoted By:

>>81450357
What

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 22:56:17 No.81454214 Report

Quoted By:

>>81450476
> Moreover, we bear in mind the fact that Zack Snyder’s background prior to film making is in art history, and that Chris Terrio’s is English literature
Holy shit it makes so. Much sense.

This film is literally 2deep4u

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 23:21:33 No.81455101 Report

Quoted By: >>81455262 >>81455960 >>81457145 >>81463816

Guys, i just noticed something about jokers knives.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 23:25:58 No.81455262 Report

Quoted By: >>81455555

>>81455101
What about them?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 23:32:42 No.81455505 Report

Quoted By: >>81463434

>>81452798

That was my impression too.

When we first started hearing about the general plot outline for BvS's setup and how it spins out from controversy over Superman's handling of the fight at the end of MoS, we all started making parallels to how the audience itself responded to that part of the movie.

I have no doubt that aspect of the narrative was an intentional allegory.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 23:34:08 No.81455555 Report

Quoted By: >>81455599

>>81455262

They kind of make an Omega symbol?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 23:35:38 No.81455599 Report

Quoted By:

>>81455555
Personally I don't see it, but it may be that because I haven't seen the whole shot yet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 23:38:59 No.81455721 Report

Quoted By:

>>81450476
>I laughed so much at the on point Daddy!Bruce characterisation I completely missed the significance of his first question to the little orphan girl. He asks her where her mother was. Why not parents? Why no follow up question for dads?

Son of a bitch I feel silly for not catching that either. This is some good shit right here.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2016 23:46:24 No.81455960 Report

Quoted By:

>>81455101
The inner circle of knives have black handles, while the outer circle is white. Reminds me of >>81407642

I don't know what that could mean though. I only really read Marvel.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2016 00:14:38 No.81456930 Report

Quoted By: >>81457453 >>81461949

>>81453787
It counts from 00:00:00 retard
You are asking for the minute 53 of the movie

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2016 00:21:15 No.81457145 Report

Quoted By: >>81457678

>>81455101

Lined up like piano keys?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2016 00:29:15 No.81457453 Report

Quoted By: >>81461949 >>81465263

>>81456930
If it counts from 0:00:00, then 0:51:52 is fifty-one minutes and fifty-two after 0:00:00.
If it started from -0:01:00, then 0:51:52 would be fifty-two minutes from the beginning.

In any case, I'm just curious to see what is at 52 minutes precisely, without the added seconds counter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2016 00:34:57 No.81457678 Report

Quoted By: >>81458278

>>81457145

Looking at it again, it's too irregular to be a simple pattern.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2016 00:52:00 No.81458278 Report

Quoted By: >>81459623 >>81462428 >>81463494

>>81457678
if blacks are dots and white's are dashes, then clockwise from the left to right its ..-..-.---..--.---.-.--.-.-.-.---.-.--.------.-.----.-....---..--..---.-..-.-.--.---.-.-.-.--.-.-.---....-.-.--.-.---..-.--..--..-. with the last part missing and a widening margin for error near the end because my eyes started watering

if it's morse code it can't be translated without figuring out where the gaps between words are. Best guess would be the inner knives but they don't point to precise enough points

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2016 01:25:55 No.81459623 Report

Quoted By:

>>81458278
I think you went full Batman in here friend
see >>81438825

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2016 02:20:04 No.81461949 Report

Quoted By:

>>81456930
>>81457453
52nd minute and minute 52 are different, I think

The home release will give proper endpoints though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2016 02:31:42 No.81462428 Report

Quoted By:

>>81458278
maybe the inner black knifes in the row closer to joker are the spaces? i know shit about morse code, tho

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2016 02:58:56 No.81463434 Report

Quoted By:

>>81452668
>>81452798
>>81455505
i've been pushing that since the movie came out, how a lot of people are actually very selfish with the not muh type of thoughts, its' the very struggle we witness throughout the story, that as much as superman wants to carry the world and kinda be like a shepherd who perfectly takes care of everyone, he can't. and it hurts him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2016 03:00:32 No.81463494 Report

Quoted By:

>>81458278
keep on investigating, friend!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2016 03:09:55 No.81463816 Report

Quoted By: >>81464133

>>81455101
What are those five cards in the bottom right? Are they playing cards? They're beside what seems to be dollar bills. If they are playing cards, why is there five of them? Maybe the four suits of a deck plus a Joker card?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2016 03:19:04 No.81464133 Report

Quoted By: >>81464177

>>81463816
definitely money that's next to them. If they're cards they're either all face cards or all face-down

also for one its worth only one of the ten guns on the left has a suppressor affixed

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2016 03:20:37 No.81464177 Report

Quoted By: >>81464241 >>81465344

>>81464133
The roses and champagne laying around suggest that this is a kind of "date"

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2016 03:22:13 No.81464241 Report

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>>81464177
Looks to me more like either a memorial, or some kind of mass.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2016 03:31:34 No.81464509 Report

Quoted By: >>81464729 >>81464968

I've decided to take a look at the Royal Flush Gang through the eyes of cartomancy, and in the spirit of /co/, I'm going to do it despite knowing almost nothing about either the Royal Flush Gang or cartomancy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2016 03:38:21 No.81464729 Report

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>>81464509
godspeed crazy diamond

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Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2016 03:45:31 No.81464933 Report

Quoted By: >>81466951 >>81467572

> "We're not concerned with the drop. No matter how you slice it, to get to $52 million on any given weekend is an enormous accomplishment. We’re most focused on where we are in total. And our global number is huge."

Guys

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Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2016 03:47:05 No.81464968 Report

Quoted By: >>81465014

>>81464509
Luckily for me, they all seem to be of the spades suit, so lucky me.

In cartomancy Spades are seen as reserved and introverted.

The King of Spades is a leader. He's good with matters of law and business. He is intelligent and witty, but has trouble with his relationships.

The Queen of Spades is cruel and manipulative, but also mysterious and cautious.

The Jack of Spades is lazy and holds other people back. He can also be troubled and backstabbing. He is charming, but sly and aloof.

The Ten of Spades is the unluckiest of all the cards. She represents worry and grief. Can also represent fear, especially if it involves change.

The Ace of Spades represents change, transformation, death, and rebirth. It is the end of one thing, while also being the beginning of another. One of the most powerful cards in the deck.

I don't know how accurate this all is to the Royal Flush Gang. I've never read a book with them in it and only got the idea after seeing a thing about cartomancy in the Wikipedia page for Joker cards. If you now anything about these guys, please tell me how accurate it is.

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Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2016 03:48:27 No.81465014 Report

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>>81464968
sounds pretty accurate to the Batman Beyond versions at the very least

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Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2016 03:49:08 No.81465029 Report

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>>81438396
My buddy from work took his wife to see it and she said she liked it 'better than those 2 Avengers movies." I don't think the movie deserves the shit it's getting and it just sounds like people venting because DC isn't doing what Marvel is doing. I like some Marvel movies, but what's wrong with something different from time to time? I mean, it's been 3 years since the last DC movie, it's not like they're flooding the market with dark and serious movies.

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Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2016 03:52:59 No.81465142 Report

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>>81445631
Well you're going to get a nice dose of Morrison on Wednesday.

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Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2016 03:55:00 No.81465203 Report

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>>81449503
Here's the order I read it all in.

http://pastebin.com/ZfPHB5gz

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Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2016 03:56:48 No.81465263 Report

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>>81457453
It's a black screen transition from Batman looking at the Omega symbol to the scene with the truck/Superman army/Parademons. You'll have to wait for the BluRay to get a truly accurate timestamp and it'll also change in the Ultimate Cut. But for now, the 52nd minute is him staring at the Omega on the ground.

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Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2016 04:00:09 No.81465344 Report

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>>81464177
You can see a pair of black and red heels in the top left corner. Harley is probably there, this is most likely a flashback.

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Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2016 05:02:43 No.81466809 Report

Quoted By: >>81467037 >>81467245

>>81440456
just got giddy seeing my drawing reposted. its on its side btw

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Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2016 05:08:30 No.81466951 Report

Quoted By:

>>81464933
WE DID IT

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Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2016 05:11:19 No.81467037 Report

Quoted By: >>81467146 >>81467503

>>81466809
Weird, I made a hypercrisis tumblr blog yesterday and someone said rebloged the flower photoset and said that it was theirs. small world

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Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2016 05:15:20 No.81467146 Report

Quoted By: >>81467245 >>81467364

>>81467037
thats disturbing to me but I suppose it shouldn't matter. The idea that universes slide along the edges of the petals is beautiful to me though

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Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2016 05:18:55 No.81467245 Report

Quoted By: >>81467323 >>81467364

>>81466809
>>81467146
Its on its side because of the Gentry eye in the center m8
It's beautiful that universes slide along the edges of the petals to total destruction

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Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2016 05:22:10 No.81467323 Report

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>>81467245
oh fuck me

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Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2016 05:23:35 No.81467364 Report

Quoted By: >>81467527

>>81467146
>>81467245
If the multiverse is a flower then what it the pollen?

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Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2016 05:28:29 No.81467503 Report

Quoted By: >>81467584

>>81467037
>Weird, I made a hypercrisis tumblr blog yesterday

link?

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Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2016 05:29:30 No.81467527 Report

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>>81467364
Ideas, mate, ideas.

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Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2016 05:29:51 No.81467540 Report

Quoted By: >>81468027

>>81450476
Just finished reading all of this. Man, I feel like a dumbass now. I agree that the main reason the movie is so divisive(or hated I guess) is that it's so unlike your typical tent pole blockbuster that people just felt unsatisfied by it.

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Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2016 05:31:12 No.81467572 Report

Quoted By:

>>81464933
that one was on purpose I think

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Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2016 05:31:34 No.81467584 Report

Quoted By: >>81467696

>>81467503
http://hypercrisisisreal.tumblr.com/

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Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2016 05:36:45 No.81467696 Report

Quoted By: >>81467765

>>81467584
>not having >>81409632

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Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2016 05:38:17 No.81467730 Report

Quoted By: >>81467843

Well guys thanks to this thread I went and saw Batman v Superman.
I fucking loved it.
It does have some script and pacing issues (Why does learning about the existence of other superhumans have no effect on Batman's rage at Superman? Why does Superman think he needs Batman's help to find Martha? Why is Lois even in this movie? What the fuck were they thinking with that baffling ghost dad visit?)
But really those were small potatoes. On par with the problems Avenger 2 had really. But the big idea was so much fucking better than anything Marvel has done. A story about how Superman restored Batmans hope for the future. How that hope is what allows him to assemble the Justice League. How the Justice League is what will stop anti-life. So fucking pumped for Darkseid. Those parademons!
I love how The Flash tells Batman "You were right about him, you were always right about him!" and Batman surely takes that to mean that he's right to think Superman must be destroyed. When actually The Flash means he was right to believe in Superman, because The Flash has always known Batman to trust in Supes. Flash fucked up and went too far back, to a Batman he never knew. Typical. That fucking lightning around him though. Felt so good to see the speed force in action on film.

People just don't get DC man.

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Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2016 05:38:23 No.81467734 Report

Quoted By: >>81467846 >>81467926 >>81467948 >>81467996

I'm not that much into comics, I'm more of a animated stuff guy, but I wantis there an order to read the crisis events?.

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Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2016 05:39:39 No.81467765 Report

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>>81467696
check again, fagtron

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Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2016 05:43:45 No.81467843 Report

Quoted By: >>81468103

>>81467730
>Why does Superman think he needs Batman's help to find Martha?
Because if he goes to look for Martha, Lex will just give them the green light to kill her. He goes to Batman to try to reason with him and get him to realize Lex is playing them both, but Batman has gone psycho at that point and doesn't want to talk.

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Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2016 05:43:48 No.81467846 Report

Quoted By: >>81467948

>>81467734
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crisis_%28DC_Comics%29

Main things to read are Flash of Two Worlds, COIE, and Infinite Crisis as far as multiverse stuff goes though. (But read some of the others anyway, especially Final Crisis.)

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Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2016 05:47:05 No.81467926 Report

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>>81467734
Oh boy. Well the start would be Crisis on Infinite Earths. Then comes Infinite Crisis, then Identity Crisis, till finally Final Crisis.
But, I'm going to be honest with you, I haven't read any of those except Final Crisis.
I plan to read Crisis on Infinite Earths eventually, but I hear the rest are shit.
If you're intrigued by all this Hypercrisis talk I would tell you not to worry about any of that other stuff anyway, Final Crisis is what you want. Honestly you could jump right in if you've seen the cartoons and aren't afraid of wikipedia being your friend. If you really want to know what's up though, here's a rough reading order you could do for Morrison's whole shebang in trade paperbacks:

Arkham Asylum
JLA1-2
JLA One Million
JLA 3-4
All Star Superman
Batman and Son
Final Crisis
Batman RIP
Time and the Batman
Batman and Robin
The Return of Bruce Wayne
Multiversity

Seven Soldiers fits in there somewhere but I haven't read it yet.
I probably shouldn't really be the one writing this. I'm sure you'll get a better answer if you stick around.

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Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2016 05:48:05 No.81467948 Report

Quoted By: >>81467995 >>81468265 >>81468365

>>81467734
>>81467846
Probably too much, but here's my "DC Crisis and Mega-Shenanigans List." Note that I probably need to prune the latter titles, because they were added before Convergence turned out to be a wash...

BIRTH OF THE TRINITY
Action Comics #1
Superman #1 (the origin story)
Action Comics #22-23, Superman #4
Detective Comics #27, 33 (Batman only)
Detective Comics #38
All-Star Comics #8 (Wonder Woman only)
Sensation Comics #1

DAWN OF JUSTICE
Flash Comics #1
All-American Comics #16
Green Lantern #1
Adventure Comics #40
Adventure Comics #48 (March 1940)
More Fun Comics #52
More Fun Comics #55
All-American Comics #19
All-Star Comics #3

BATGOD BEGINS
Batman #62, 65, 86, 112, 113, 134, 153, 156, 162, 180, 189
Detective Comics #156, 180, 215, 235, 247, 267
Superman #76
World’s Finest Comics #89, 151, 223, 227, 255
Bat-Manga!

WHAT IS THE MEASURE OF A SUPERMAN?
Action Comics #197, #208, #241, #252, #254-255, #262, #271

A NEW ERA OF JUSTICE
Showcase #4, The Flash #105-#107
Showcase #22-24
Detective Comics #225
Adventure Comics #260
Wonder Woman #98-101
Brave and the Bold #28-30

OUTSIDE INFLUENCES
Captain Marvel: The Monster Society of Evil (Fawcett Comics Captain Marvel #22-46)
Shazam (DC Comics; Earth-S)
Space Adventures #33-40, 42
Captain Atom #83-89, Blue Beetle #1-6
Fightin’ 5 #40-41, Peacemaker #1-5
Peter Cannon, Thunderbolt #1

CRISIS!
The Flash #123 (Flash of Two Worlds), 129, 137, 151
Green Lantern vol. 2, #40
Justice League of America #21-22, 29-30, 37-38, 46-47, #55-56, 64-65, 73-74, 82-82, #91-92, 100-102

A DEMON IS BORN
Batman: Tales of the Demon
Batman #217, 232, 235, 240, 242-244 and Detective Comics #411; DC Special Series #15, Detective Comics #485, 489, 490 (Denny O’Neil’s Ra’s Al Ghul work)
Detective Comics #471–476 (Steve Englehart’s run)
The Dark Knight Returns

NEW WORLD, NEW GODS
Jack Kirby’s Fourth World
The Hunger Dogs
The Great Darkness Saga (Legion of Superheroes #290-294)

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Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2016 05:49:46 No.81467995 Report

Quoted By: >>81468020 >>81468265

>>81467948
GOLD TURNS TO BRONZE
DC Special #29
All-Star Comics #58-68, DC Super Stars #17, 69-74
All-Star Squadron #1-49
Infinity Inc #1-17

THE CRISES CONTINUE
Justice League of America 107-108, 113, #123-124, 135-137, 147-148, #159-160, 171-172, 183-185

THE CRISIS TO END ALL CRISES
Crisis on Infinite Earths
Swamp Thing: American Gothic (Swamp Thing #37-50)
Infinity Inc #18-24
All-Star Squadron #50-56

WHO WATCHES THEM?
Watchmen

BATGOD BEGINS AGAIN
Batman: Year One
Batman: Shaman
Batman: The Killing Joke
Batman: The Cult
Batman: Son of the Demon
Batman: A Death in the Family
Batman: Dark Knight, Dark City
Batman: The Destroyer

BATGOD: PREPTIME
Batman: Secret Files & Origins ‘97
Batman: Shadow of the Bat #45

NEW FOUNDATIONS
Superman: The Man of Steel
Wonder Woman: Gods and Mortals
Justice League #1-6
Captain Atom #1
The Power of Shazam
Legends
Cosmic Odyssey

MEANWHILE, SOMEWHERE IN SCOTLAND
Zenith Phases I-IV
Animal Man #1-26 by Grant Morrison
Aztek: The Ultimate Man
Doom Patrol #19-63
Arkham Asylum: A Serious House on Serious Earth
Batman: Gothic

THE FIFTH WORLD
Orion by Walt Simonson
JLA by Grant Morrison
DC One Million
JLA: Earth 2
JLA: Classified #1-3

INFINITE CRISIS
Countdown to Infinite Crisis
The Rann-Thanagar War
The OMAC Project
Day of Vengeance
Villains United
Infinite Crisis
52
Seven Soldiers of Victory
Green Lantern by Geoff Johns

THE DEATH OF BATMAN
Batman and Son #655-658
The Clown at Midnight #663
Three Ghosts of Batman #664-665
Numbers of the Beast #666
The Island of Mr. Mayhew #667-669
The Black Glove #672-675
Batman R.I.P. #676-681
R.I.P.: The Missing Chapter #701
Batman #702

FINAL CRISIS
Death of the New Gods
Final Crisis
Superman Beyond
Final Crisis: Submit
Batman #682-683
The Flash: Rebirth
Flashpoint

WHATEVER HAPPENED TO THE CAPED CRUSADER?
Detective Comics #853
Batman #686

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Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2016 05:49:46 No.81467996 Report

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>>81467734
Flash of Two Worlds
COIE
Zero Hour
Morrison's JLA/DC One Million/Earth 2
Infinite Crisis
52
Seven Soldiers
Final Crisis
Multiversity

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Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2016 05:50:48 No.81468020 Report

Quoted By: >>81468265

>>81467995
BATMAN AND ROBIN
Circus of Strange #1-3
Revenge of the Red Hood #4-6
Detective Comics #854-863
Blackest Night #7-9
Time and the Batman #700
Batman vs. Robin #10-12
Batman and Robin Must Die! #13-15
The Return of Bruce Wayne
Black Mass #16

BATGOD: CORPORATE TAKEOVER
Batman: The Return
Batman Incorporated Vol. 1
Batman: Leviathan Strikes!
Batman Incorporated Vol. 2
Batman & Robin Vol. 2

THE NEW 52: THE BEGINNING
Justice League: Origin
O.M.A.C.
JLI Annual #1
Action Comics #0-19
Justice League of America #1-5
Dial H
Vibe
Earth 2

THE NEW 52: THE CONTINUING
Justice League #23.1: Darkseid
Batman/Superman #1-4
Trinity War
Forever Evil
Justice League #24-onward

THE NEW 52: THE HAPPENING
Superboy #30-34
Green Lantern: Lights Out
Superman: Doomed
The New 52: Futures End
Earth 2: World’s End
Infinity Man and the Forever People
The Multiversity (and Society of Super-Heroes, The Just, Pax Americana, Thunderworld, The Multiversity Guidebook, Mastermen, Ultra Comics)
Booster Gold: Futures End #1
Green Lantern: Godhead

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Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2016 05:51:08 No.81468027 Report

Quoted By: >>81468074

>>81467540
i've been saying that from the beginning
and just to make it absolutely clear, that blog isn't mine.
throughout all the bvs 'defending' i've been doing people have been calling me a shill but all i've been trying to do is show that people have indeed missed what was right in front of them. the part that gets me the most is that it's revealed that so called professionals have no idea what they're talking about. it's one thing if the public is confused because of mismanaged expectations, desires, and attention, but professionals who are supposed to be knowledgeable?

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Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2016 05:53:10 No.81468074 Report

Quoted By: >>81468720

>>81468027
It doesn't take much to be a film critic these days. Just write a blog and you can pretty much get a credential. There's a few legit ones left, but real critics died with Ebert.

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Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2016 05:54:20 No.81468103 Report

Quoted By: >>81468353

>>81467843
Yeah I got that that's is what they were going for but I'm not buying it.
Surely Superman could just fly somewhere Lex can't see him, listen for his mom to say something, then fly in there and grab her before they could toast her.
I mean why, at this point, would he even believe that Batman could find Martha when he can't?
Which reminds me of another funny thought. As much as I love Batman thrashing all the warehouse goons, there's really no reason for him to be doing that. All he had to do was figure out where she was and Superman would have had plenty of time to go in there, take her to safety, and then go over to Lex. He's fucking Superman. It's great that you can karate all those guys Bruce but really we've got Superman now. He doesn't even have to fight them, he can just go through the window, grab her and leave before they can fire.
That's not a real complaint though. Glad we got that bat action since all he could do during the Doomsday fight was hide under the rubble.
Really he should have been going to get the spear. Could have had some nice grapple hook action or something to get him there, and it would have been much more affective for Superman to pull him out of the water instead of saving Lois for the tenth time in one movie.

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Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2016 06:01:47 No.81468265 Report

Quoted By: >>81468480

>>81467948
>>81467995
>>81468020
pretty good, although it's missing Batman: Venom, and the Knightfall Trilogy, which both are fairly important to the Batman side of things I'd say, and the Death and Return of Superman, and Zero Hour also have a role to fit in this

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Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2016 06:05:19 No.81468353 Report

Quoted By: >>81468563

>>81468103
>Could have had some nice grapple hook action or something to get him there, and it would have been much more affective for Superman to pull him out of the water instead of saving Lois for the tenth time in one movie.
Confirmed for retard

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Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2016 06:06:04 No.81468365 Report

Quoted By: >>81468427 >>81468480

>>81467948
>Not including New Fun Comics #6, the true beginning of the DC universe with the introduction of Doctor Occult

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Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2016 06:09:29 No.81468427 Report

Quoted By: >>81468480 >>81468506

>>81468365
And since you mention Doctor Occult, I don't see Neil Gaiman's works like Sandman and Books of Magic.

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Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2016 06:12:13 No.81468480 Report

Quoted By: >>81468634 >>81468707

>>81468265
>>81468365
>>81468427
Noted, and I'll see about where I could slot them in. Although I'm not entire sure about the Batman additions; my list is Batman heavy primarily because of the (lengthy) Morrison run's Hypercrisis themes, not because I'm trying to capture the complete history of the Bat.

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Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2016 06:13:25 No.81468506 Report

Quoted By: >>81468614

>>81468427
Don't forget Lucifer. Dudes the exact same character in his post 52 books as he was pre.

As an aside, has anyone been reading them? I think they have been pretty great.

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Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2016 06:16:37 No.81468563 Report

Quoted By: >>81468661 >>81469278

>>81468353
Don't know if youre referring to the grapple or the saving.
In regards to "grapple action" I'm aware it sounds stupid, but some bat parkour would at least be more visually dynamic than seeing Lois run around a warehouse. And it would solve the problem of Batman doing literally nothing for the duration of the climactic battle.
And i know Superman saving Lois is pretty core to his character but needing to get saved again at this point just makes her feel mighty useless. She should have been getting the military to arrest Luthor or something. Something that would give payoff to all that investigating shes spent the movie doing.

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Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2016 06:19:32 No.81468614 Report

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>>81468506
Added Lucifer. Really, my problem is that I've been categorizing things like Sandman/Books of Magic/Lucifer into a list of fantasy titles, and forgetting to add them to my Hypercrisis reading list.

>As an aside, has anyone been reading them?
I haven't heard the best of things about them; mainly, they seem to be really well written, but quite a few things in the new run are completely contrary to the Carey run. I'd rather not read it due to this, but that's just a matter of taste.

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Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2016 06:20:36 No.81468634 Report

Quoted By: >>81468745

>>81468480
well Venom ties into the Doctor Hurt portion of things(going off that image earlier), and Knightfall reinforces the Barbatos/Haunted Gotham parts of it

also just realized you forgot Flex Mentallo in the Scotland section

also there's this that I almost forgot about that could be important

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Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2016 06:22:15 No.81468661 Report

Quoted By:

>>81468563
intervening here,
her getting saved again and again is a plot point and a theme of the movie, the full meaning of her relationship with clark is nonverbal even if we get the direct >this is my world, you're my world statement that explicitly ties it all up

the movie does that a lot, uses verbal and nonverbal elements of it's story to tie up some sort of theme and arc later on

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Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2016 06:24:54 No.81468707 Report

Quoted By: >>81468745

>>81468480
Slide it in next to Fifth World and call it something like "The Worlds of Magic".
Sandman and it's spinoffs, Books of Magic, and Spectre, which you can use to tie into Green Lantern with Emerald Twilight, Zero Hour, Final Night, I think Ostrander's Spectre, and Green Lantern: Rebirth, then down that road into the War of Light.

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Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2016 06:25:35 No.81468720 Report

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>>81468074
>It doesn't take much to be a film critic these days. Just write a blog and you can pretty much get a credential. There's a few legit ones left, but real critics died with Ebert.

This is pretty much true. There are fuck all critics who want anything other than popcorn, laughs, and "feels".

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2016 06:27:05 No.81468745 Report

Quoted By: >>81468824

>>81468634
>>81468707
Many thanks, again. "The Worlds of Magic" should work.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2016 06:32:11 No.81468824 Report

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>>81468745
Somewhere in Scotland could also have Kid Eternity. I've never read it and I've never seen anyone mention it in hypercrisis threads, so maybe it's just not important

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Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2016 06:34:29 No.81468853 Report

Quoted By: >>81469035 >>81469111

Respectfully, I don't like Batman v Superman.

While I do see how it succeeded with capturing grand ideas, so much of the movie was so poorly composed from a technical, script, and film perspective that I really don't want to watch any future DC attempts by the same team.

I've been in Hypercrisis threads for years, though, so I'm no immune from recognizing the Hypercrisis charms of BvS; but, just as I'd dump a comic for making too many technical mistakes, I'm (tentatively) dumping the rest of the main DC movie storyline.

Hopefully Suicide Squad is better made, and can stimulate some Hypercrisis thought.

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Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2016 06:47:15 No.81469035 Report

Quoted By: >>81469111 >>81469173

>>81468853
I was right there with you, and am still rather unconvinced. However, reading http://pulpklatura.tumblr.com/post/141843209469/batman-v-superman-the-modern-revenge-tragedy in particular has made me reevaluate a great many of my problems with the film. I'm going to go see it again on the discount night to see if I my complaints hold up to more scrutiny.

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Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2016 06:52:30 No.81469111 Report

Quoted By: >>81469173

>>81468853
>>81469035
i'm the guy posting shit about it and the one thing i really have to talk about is all the cuts within scenes.
the moments where everything within frame is choreographed within a longer type of shot were my favorite parts. i say this while being nowhere near well read in comic books to compare the framing of shots in the movie to the framing of things in comics
what i'm wondering is if the longer cut will reveal inner patterns within the camera work itself

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Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2016 06:57:33 No.81469173 Report

Quoted By:

>>81469035
>>81469111
Really, I'm just going to let the Hypercrisis do its thing. The DC Megaverse, as a living thing, will find a way to incorporate this, and potentially other movies, into its corpus.

Personally, I think much of this is a wound, and will be covered in scar tissue within a decade. But, if there is merit to the movie, I expect I'll see its ripples.

The best stories become canon. Everything is canon, everything happens; we, and those after us, interpret the best parts, and what comes next.

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Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2016 07:05:39 No.81469278 Report

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>>81468563
She is fucking useless just like Batman is fucking useless against Doomsday

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Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2016 07:11:26 No.81469376 Report

Quoted By: >>81469414 >>81469420

How does CIA fit into the Hypercrisis?

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Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2016 07:13:22 No.81469414 Report

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>>81469376
Tom "I'm CIA" King was brought aboard the DC crew

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Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2016 07:13:49 No.81469420 Report

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>>81469376
Baneposters never cease to amaze me with their talent

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Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2016 07:15:16 No.81469441 Report

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so should someone make a new thread?

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