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Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 20:26:57 2016 No.81269907 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>81269992 >>81270643 >>81270964 >>81271011

Could Steven Universe be considered what Avatar was for the 00s for the 10s?

>Strong focus on world and character building
>Overarching story that takes cues from shounen
>Strong following of older fans
>meticulous detail to its world

What do you think?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2016 20:27:41 No.81269926 Report

Quoted By: >>81270086

Avatar had good waifus, while SU has shit waifus, so no.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2016 20:29:55 No.81269992 Report

Quoted By: >>81270086

>>81269907
It would appear that way yes. Now can we please have a nice discussion that doesn't end with SU and ATLA fans arguing which show is better?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2016 20:29:56 No.81269994 Report

Quoted By: >>81270086

No, Steven Universe is nowhere near be as well animated or written as Avatar. It wins at having the worse fanbase however.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2016 20:31:59 No.81270050 Report

Quoted By: >>81270086

Gravity Falls is closer to Avatar was than Sepulcher Zombieverse will ever be.

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Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2016 20:32:38 No.81270068 Report

Quoted By: >>81270086 >>81271527

I think I'm starting to understand why people hate SU so much

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2016 20:33:26 No.81270086 Report

Quoted By: >>81270185

>>81270068
>>81270050
>>81269994
>>81269992
>>81269926
Its an old meme faggots.

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Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2016 20:33:28 No.81270087 Report

Quoted By: >>81270151 >>81271129 >>81271164

>story
yes, okay
>animation
FUCK NO i mean come on now, i love su's style sometimes but not on the same level as avatar

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Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2016 20:35:36 No.81270151 Report

Quoted By: >>81270605 >>81270836

>>81270087
Im fucking plying

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Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2016 20:35:49 No.81270160 Report

Quoted By: >>81271108

>in 2022 we will get a SU sequel that will suck ass and be a source of large amounts of porn

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2016 20:36:46 No.81270185 Report

Quoted By: >>81270796

>>81270086
>old stale meme
>image.jpg
>shitty Steven Universe thread thats very creation killed a more interesting thread in the process

Yeah, go fuck yourself.

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Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2016 20:37:13 No.81270196 Report

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Did Avatar get cancelled after one and a half seasons?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2016 20:37:35 No.81270209 Report

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Keep the SU cancer in the existing threads.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2016 20:38:48 No.81270257 Report

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No, SU is tumblrmeme trash and has no waifus or shots of feet so it can't possibly be better.

If you want good animated shows just watch anime.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2016 20:43:09 No.81270404 Report

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As an SU fan, no. They're just very different series in terms of tone. Steven Universe's first and foremost desire is to be both cute and silly with some heavier themes thrown in. While Avatars is the reverse of that using humor and levity to keep the story from bogging down the series.

Maybe if you were gonna make that comparison Avatar would be Jojo part 3 while Steven Universe would be Part 4.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2016 20:47:09 No.81270534 Report

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A big part of things came down to Avatar being released during a period when cartoons were being pushed out in favor of live-action because they were seen as more profitable. Adventure Time was such a huge commercial success that it's not really an issue anymore, so we're in an era with a lot of strong, creator-driven cartoons.

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Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2016 20:48:58 No.81270605 Report

Quoted By: >>81270881

>>81270151
ATLA at its worst is better than SU at its best

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2016 20:50:15 No.81270643 Report

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>>81269907
Kind of But SU falls short. It could have been that kind of show but it has more filler than I remember Avatar having. and I don't really think meticulous detail to the world is how I would describe SU at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2016 20:53:14 No.81270746 Report

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If anyone cares, looks like SU is getting a season 4 & 5,

http://www.ew.com/article/2016/03/30/steven-universe-uncle-grandpa-renewed-season-5-cartoon-network?xid=entertainment-weekly_socialflow_twitter

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2016 20:54:10 No.81270777 Report

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Steven Universe is the Invade Zim of our time anon. Cancerous fan base, lost to soon

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2016 20:54:47 No.81270796 Report

Quoted By: >>81270876

>>81270185
This is a pretty easy troll tactic
> praising a show you hate as the best thing ever to piss peope off

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2016 20:55:42 No.81270836 Report

Quoted By: >>81270876

>>81270151
Don't post something horribly animated as though it's amazing, dude. SU has shit animation, it's fine to admit. Even the fight scenes are garbage when you go through most of the frames.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2016 20:57:01 No.81270876 Report

Quoted By: >>81270910

>>81270836
Are you dense?
>>81270796
Obviously he knows that its shit.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2016 20:57:09 No.81270881 Report

Quoted By: >>81271060 >>81271339

>>81270605
Korra season 2 and 4 disagree with you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2016 20:58:03 No.81270910 Report

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>>81270876
Do you just have shit taste?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2016 20:59:26 No.81270964 Report

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>>81269907
Yeah, except avatar was garbage

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2016 21:01:08 No.81271011 Report

Quoted By: >>81271123

>>81269907
I don't know if they're really that comparable. Avatar was basically kung-fu Star Wars/The Lord of the Rings. The three seasons very clearly structured as three books or films in a trilogy. Multiple protagonists with their own distinct plotlines that feed into the greater conflict of a simplicstic war between good and evil.
SU is way more episodic, far more slice of life. It has a more comedic tone. It has this brilliantly executed dripfeed of background lore that gives it a sense of mystery and suspense that it would otherwise lack. SU is a lot more unique in it's structure and it's cast of characters. It's clearly as inspired by mahou shojo stuff as much if not more than shounen. The drama feels more personal and real than you typically get in genre stuff, while still being contained in an 11 minute long children's cartoon.
i love both, but they're not really even in the same genre.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2016 21:02:50 No.81271060 Report

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>>81270881
The fight choreography and animation were still better

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Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2016 21:03:28 No.81271090 Report

Quoted By: >>81271554

>you will never find the person who makes these shitty Steven Universe threads and rearrange their spine

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2016 21:04:03 No.81271108 Report

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>>81270160
And it will end on a lesb... wait

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2016 21:04:32 No.81271123 Report

Quoted By: >>81271202

>>81271011
>It has a more comedic tone.
And yet Sokka is more funny than any Tumblr Universe I can name.

>women written humor
not even once.

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Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2016 21:04:41 No.81271129 Report

Quoted By: >>81271289 >>81271366

>>81270087
Avatar had a fraction of the frames of animation compared to Steven universe or Adventure Time. It's not first season of boondocks bad but is still bad enough to be jarring. Not to mention its shit-tier animation and art direction. The use of camera pans looks like shit and gives me a headache.

Tl;dr Avatar was crap and had shit animation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2016 21:05:35 No.81271164 Report

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>>81270087
No one mentioned the animation, so I don't who you're saying no to.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2016 21:06:41 No.81271202 Report

Quoted By: >>81271237

>>81271123
That's nice dear.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2016 21:07:49 No.81271237 Report

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>>81271202
You forgot to attach the image of albino pacman looking at the letter J that this board overuses too much.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2016 21:09:23 No.81271289 Report

Quoted By: >>81271772

>>81271129
Objects and blows in SU literally have no weight during fight scenes and every pose looks awkward as fuck, because the animation crew has never in their lives seen a real person use a sword or fight. Even the Jasper v. Garnet fight was absolute trash, and that one was praised up and fucking down during.
Pearl looks like an idiot every time she touches a blade, she has no idea how to hold it or swing one properly it's the cringiest thing to anyone who knows what actual fighting animation is meant to look like. It's like the staff tried to copy anime but only copied the shittiest parts and then tried to make up their own choreography for the gaps and it was worse because they have no idea what humans look like when they fight.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2016 21:10:56 No.81271339 Report

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>>81270881
Well korra season 2 did have a different animation studio. Though I don't remember there being any drop in quality 4.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2016 21:12:00 No.81271366 Report

Quoted By:

>>81271129
>Avatar had a fraction of the frames of animation

Im pretty sure that's wrong

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2016 21:13:26 No.81271407 Report

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It's bait you fucking idiots

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2016 21:14:02 No.81271417 Report

Quoted By: >>81271519

So this is just a troll thread, then? That's a pity. It would have been nice to discuss these shows like adults, but I guess that's just beyond /co/

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2016 21:17:41 No.81271519 Report

Quoted By: >>81271569

>>81271417
No it's not. People just dislike to discuss SU critically on this board.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2016 21:18:06 No.81271527 Report

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>>81270068

I don't. NOBODY IS FORCING YOU TO WATCH THE SHOW OR PARTICIPATE IN THREADS.

Are they?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2016 21:19:07 No.81271554 Report

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>>81271090

>You will never have the good sense not to knowingly and willingly participate in something you claim to hate.

Seriously, are you that crying otter?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2016 21:19:29 No.81271569 Report

Quoted By: >>81271596

>>81271519
No, it's a troll thread.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2016 21:20:18 No.81271596 Report

Quoted By: >>81271624

>>81271569
Because you say so?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2016 21:21:14 No.81271624 Report

Quoted By: >>81271647

>>81271596
>Avatar, a show /co/ praises

>SU, a show /co/ calls the new MLP

It's a bait thread

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2016 21:21:50 No.81271647 Report

Quoted By: >>81271684

>>81271624
>/co/ is one person

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2016 21:22:52 No.81271684 Report

Quoted By: >>81271733 >>81271878

>>81271647
Going by popular opinion. Do you not read threads? SU gets constantly shit on and Avatar has always been considered a top tier cartoon

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2016 21:24:22 No.81271733 Report

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>>81271684
I've seen threads going both way. It's your fault for taking shitposting to heart you baby.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2016 21:25:29 No.81271772 Report

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>>81271289
Avatars fighting was garbage. there were so few actual frames of animation in it and the characters proportions and perspectives often made no sense and they would try and hide it with motion blur. Implying a blow had le anime goku Impact doesn't make it better or more realistic animation-wise.

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Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2016 21:27:38 No.81271835 Report

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>daily I don't understand the appeal thread

OH god, I can't wait for June.

It's going to be a fucking shitstorm.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2016 21:28:49 No.81271878 Report

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>>81271684
Avatar is absolutely garbage. It was garbage anime knock off during its original run and it's still garbage today. Crappy plot, shit animation, crappy writing, poor character chemistry is me throwing soft punches at it.

Implying it was universally loved is just shit tier shilling.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2016 21:28:54 No.81271882 Report

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>>81271579
Heres another bait thread for you guys

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