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Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 00:49:56 2015 No.77806481 View Reply Original Report

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Why do Family Guy characters always hold their hands out like this when they talk?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2015 00:52:14 No.77806536 Report

Quoted By: >>77825588

so it looks like there's more going on than just their mouths moving

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2015 00:52:49 No.77806548 Report

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>>77806481
Because they are all mansplaining

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Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2015 00:55:45 No.77806629 Report

Quoted By: >>77825588

>>77806481
They probably animate it to drive the viewer's attention away from the fact that only the characters' mouths are moving and create the illusion of actual animation.

Or maybe they're doing some jedi mind trick shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2015 00:56:23 No.77806643 Report

Quoted By: >>77816701 >>77821852 >>77836502

Ever since I noticed this it's been aggravating the hell out of me any time I happen to catch a glimpse of Family Guy. It's EVERY SINGLE SCENE someone's talking and their hands out. They either do it with one hand or both, and they occasionally have both hands held out like that, but far apart.

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Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2015 00:58:40 No.77806697 Report

Quoted By: >>77806761

Do you guys not move your hands when you talk?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2015 01:00:00 No.77806738 Report

Quoted By: >>77807074

Some kind of gesticulation that Rhode Islanders do? I dunno. My mom's Italian-American and she gesticulates like crazy when she talks. I remember she was doing it while driving and was jerking the car back and forth because of it.

I also do it, but to a lesser degree. I mostly start manipulating something invisible with my hands because I'm visualizing something in my head and I forget that other people can't see it.

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Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2015 01:01:02 No.77806761 Report

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>>77806697
Not into one pre-programmed motion roboticly whenever I start speaking. They usually move to accentuate what I'm saying.

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Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2015 01:07:54 No.77806925 Report

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>>77806481
To distract from the shitty art style.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2015 01:13:33 No.77807074 Report

Quoted By: >>77809087 >>77818189

>>77806738
>My mom's Italian-American and she gesticulates like crazy when she talks.

Same. There's a joke that if you want an Italian to stop talking, you tie their hands behind their back.

But in the case of Family Guy, they aren't using their hands to articulate, they are just holding out their hand arbitrarily in the same position every single time regardless of what they are saying.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2015 02:29:17 No.77809087 Report

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>>77807074
It's kinda like how hanna barbera cartoons moved their heads up and down when they talked only 1000 times more retarded looking

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2015 02:29:59 No.77809111 Report

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>>77806481
Because that's what people do IRL

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2015 02:32:17 No.77809177 Report

Quoted By: >>77809272 >>77809670 >>77810706

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=63wJItfmu_0

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2015 02:35:56 No.77809272 Report

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>>77809177
it's the pic of walt disney at the end that really makes it

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2015 02:37:21 No.77809308 Report

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It's their equivalent to the Johnny Test whip, pretty much.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2015 02:51:55 No.77809670 Report

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>>77809177
An episode must take like ten minutes to animate at this point.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2015 03:28:11 No.77810595 Report

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le italian hand

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Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2015 03:31:47 No.77810687 Report

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I think it's the autistic emulation of body language.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2015 03:32:36 No.77810706 Report

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>>77806481
>>77809177
I'm not sure what you guys want. Should they be doing backflips and shit while talking? There's plenty of visual things to criticize in Family Guy, but this feels like nitpicking.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2015 03:33:32 No.77810725 Report

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>>77806481
because talking with both of your hands down is even weirder

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2015 03:39:17 No.77810867 Report

Quoted By: >>77814306

>>77810706
It's about how boring it looks. The background is stale and uninteresting, there isn't much of a joke or focus for the scene by the looks of it, it's just them sitting at the table doing nothing but talking. It's not engaging at all and just looks lazy, at least have the characters standing or interacting with something while they talk.
Moving their hands around a bit and having shitty lip sync with a few blinks here and there just isn't good animation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2015 04:04:25 No.77811505 Report

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>>77810706
>Should they be doing backflips and shit while talking?

Yes that's the literal solution OP was looking for, Good point. I guess the thread's over.

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Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2015 05:08:15 No.77813067 Report

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I don't know what to do with my hands, so I just smoke.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2015 05:11:30 No.77813128 Report

Quoted By: >>77837962

Because it's a writers show.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2015 05:21:54 No.77813390 Report

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Family Guy drinking game: Every time someone holds their hand out like this, chug until they put their hands down.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2015 05:53:35 No.77814156 Report

Quoted By: >>77818050 >>77818103 >>77823201

South Park legit has better animation than Family Guy

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2015 06:00:48 No.77814306 Report

Quoted By: >>77816701

>>77810867

Yeah you never really see characters talk while they do every day tasks like normal people, or at least not often enough.

In fact there's a lot of stuff like that, in older seasons lowis always seemed busy with house work. Now its like she sits around all day and does nothing. Kind of makes her seem like a lazy bitch.

>at least have the characters standing
>Joe standing

kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2015 06:05:12 No.77814399 Report

Quoted By: >>77816522 >>77818194 >>77830043 >>77834995 >>77836502

>>77810706
I still get bothered at how every time someone falls or gets knocked out, they have that same pose. You know the one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2015 08:08:10 No.77816522 Report

Quoted By: >>77818194 >>77836502

>>77814399
Holy fuck i thought i was the only one that noticed that.

Its always lay on one side, arm extended, other arm bent back, one leg extended, other leg bent back.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2015 08:22:01 No.77816701 Report

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>>77806643
Bugs the hell out of me, too. I don't watch Family Guy past season 4, but I tend to keep my TV running on [adult swim], and sometimes when I look behind me, I'll see those fucking bored expressions and the two or three arm gestures they do while talking.

Like >>77814306
pointed out, characters used to be doing various things while talking in the early seasons, but now they just sit or MAYBE stand.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2015 10:08:16 No.77817779 Report

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I swear they use Go!Animate to make the show nowadays.
I personally work on flash cartoons that have more movement than this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2015 10:32:04 No.77817922 Report

Quoted By: >>77819414 >>77830195

>>77806481
Because that's what happens when you stay 100% on model and refuse to deviate off of it.

>>77810706
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOgS8gTATv8&ab_channel=Graylandertagger

Look, its mostly people talking liek it is in family guy. But things are more organic. They emote with their lines, their emotions are in their movements.

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Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2015 10:35:54 No.77817944 Report

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>>77810706
>change camera angles
>emote more

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Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2015 10:53:29 No.77818050 Report

Quoted By: >>77818103 >>77820927

>>77814156
You're not even wrong.

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Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2015 10:55:46 No.77818058 Report

Quoted By: >>77818140

IT'S EXPRESSIVE!
LIKE ANIME!
THERE ARE FIVE OR SIX GESTURES AND YOU USE THEM TO BE EXPRESSIVE!

what's that? there are thousands of human gestures and facial expressions?

BULLSHIT! THERE ARE ONLY FIVE OR SIX GESTURES!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2015 11:03:07 No.77818103 Report

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>>77814156
>>77818050
But South Park has good animation, especially when it wants to, just a choppy design and style.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2015 11:09:46 No.77818132 Report

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Family Guy confirmed to be the >B^Uckley of professional animations.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2015 11:11:06 No.77818140 Report

Quoted By: >>77818145

>>77818058
>le anime all looks the same meme

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2015 11:11:49 No.77818145 Report

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>>77818140
>le not reading the post meme

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2015 11:19:57 No.77818189 Report

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>>77807074
>But in the case of Family Guy, they aren't using their hands to articulate, they are just holding out their hand arbitrarily in the same position every single time regardless of what they are saying.
Part of that has to come from animation shortcuts. If it has visible multiple fingers and looks like a human hand, we can accept it. When hands are in different angles that reduce the number of visible fingers, with such a uniform lined style like Family Guy it might look bizarre. To the uninclined, they see an arm with a hand moving during talking and leave it at that, but those who actually notice can see it as an artificial gesture with abnormal posturing, abnormal due to how the wrist is angled and the fingers are all tight.

tl;dr just lazy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2015 11:20:23 No.77818194 Report

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>>77814399
>>77816522

I thinks that its a running gag.

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Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2015 14:08:55 No.77819414 Report

Quoted By: >>77830195

>>77817922
look man, I agree with you
but you're comparing animation from +10 years ago the one done these days.
simpsons nowadays is pretty robotic, and fg used to be more fluid

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2015 15:41:46 No.77820357 Report

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>>77806481

How come Joe only has three fingers?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2015 16:25:58 No.77820927 Report

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>>77818050
>not even wrong.
adam sandler was never funny anon

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Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2015 17:14:59 No.77821654 Report

Quoted By: >>77823252

>>77806481
because it's subsconcious bodytalk...we all use our hands in some way as we are talking to each other, that's how we express ourselves...?icking nose,leaning them on our chests, crossing them etc...in family guy the characters don't lie when they are talking and this shows they are open minded and honest...take a closer look at these scripts...just like when Peter regrets something and tells a big sorry or what he has learnt today...if you use your hands like downways then you are holding back something or want to be dominant or not honest...the most common in this case the dominant stuff

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Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2015 17:24:22 No.77821852 Report

Quoted By: >>77830178

>>77806481
>>77806643
Glad I'm not the only one that noticed this. It's the same damn generic pose for every character.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2015 17:25:42 No.77821882 Report

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Stiff animation is what happens when you spend half your budget on voice actors.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2015 18:25:56 No.77823129 Report

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>>77810706
Even South Park has better talking animation, with the way their heads move around as they speak. Family Guy used to do that a little too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2015 18:29:17 No.77823201 Report

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>>77814156
If South Park characters had outlines, regular hands, better legs, and didn't hop around whenever they walked, it would just be a great looking show. The hopping around is still really funny to watch, though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2015 18:31:30 No.77823252 Report

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>>77821654
>.in family guy the characters don't lie when they are talking and this shows they are open minded and honest...take a closer look at these scripts...just like when Peter regrets something and tells a big sorry or what he has learnt today...if you use your hands like downways then you are holding back something or want to be dominant or not honest...the most common in this case the dominant stuff

This post is some sort of digital anomaly

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Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2015 18:40:18 No.77823425 Report

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I'm pretty sure at this point the talking animation is procedurally generated.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2015 20:18:30 No.77825200 Report

Quoted By: >>77832646

I also hate when somebody says something nice and then one person tilts their head a little and squints their eyes, and the other person tilts their head and squints their eyes. It looks so bad and it happens all the time.

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Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2015 20:39:20 No.77825588 Report

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>>77806536
>>77806629
This is the only legitimate reason

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Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2015 22:01:26 No.77827460 Report

Quoted By: >>77830131 >>77831416 >>77836689

Animation. I thought it could of had more jiggles.

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Totorro Ha !/b/YM5aV/6 Mon 30 Nov 2015 23:42:36 No.77829722 Report

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>>77810706
>camera angles
>emote
>head movement
>body movement
>perform menial tasks in the background like wash dishes or make a cup of coffee or sweep the fucking floor literally fucking anything at all

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Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2015 23:56:25 No.77830043 Report

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>>77814399
this this this a million fucking times this fucking christ chris you fucking hack

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2015 23:58:33 No.77830085 Report

Quoted By: >>77834264

>>77806481

>tfw when I express myself with my hands a lot, especially when I'm frustrated or excited
>tfw people find it weird
>tfw i have a pretty monotone voice so relying on my hands to add emotion only makes it worse

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2015 23:59:26 No.77830105 Report

Quoted By: >>77830822

Was Family Guy's animation always ridiculously lazy?

I watched clips from the Surfin' Bird episode and the animation is so stiff and lifeless and recycled - Peter does the exact same dance every single time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Dec 2015 00:00:34 No.77830131 Report

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>>77827460
Needs more hands outward when he talks.

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Anonymous Tue 01 Dec 2015 00:02:41 No.77830178 Report

Quoted By:

>>77821852
you mean poses like this right

it's like they are waiting for a tip

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Dec 2015 00:03:21 No.77830195 Report

Quoted By:

>>77819414
>but you're comparing animation from +10 years ago the one done these days.

I'm not comparing, I'm answering the question >>77817922
asked with "what do you want them to do"

time of animation has nothing to do with it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Dec 2015 00:14:50 No.77830440 Report

Quoted By: >>77834749

Me and my brothers are doing a family guy rewatch. The earlier seasons did have "rougher" drawings and the animation really isn't the best, but it was leagues better than nu-family guy. They used different angles, different poses, hell they made people move when others are talking. In Family Guy, everyone just stares blankly at the speaker until they get to speak. It's kinda creepy actually.
Like, I'd say the peak for the animation is either season 3 and season 4, and I'd say season 4 have some animation decay onto it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Dec 2015 00:14:52 No.77830442 Report

Quoted By:

>>77810706
Change the camera angle, and have the characters move more naturally instead of moving once and returning to the same resting position they started in.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Dec 2015 00:28:56 No.77830822 Report

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>>77830105
No, the earlier seasons had the characters actually doing things while talking.

The Surfin' Bird episode is past the Point of No Return for Family Guy.

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Anonymous Tue 01 Dec 2015 00:53:48 No.77831416 Report

Quoted By: >>77832941

>>77827460
That's a cock pheasant though...

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Anonymous Tue 01 Dec 2015 01:31:01 No.77832602 Report

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The worst fucking part to me is the fucking "emotional" scenes where they do the hand thing, and THEN do the fucking lazy slowly-tilt-your-head-while-slowly-squinting thing.

I fucking swear, it tries to be emotional and it just fucking can't. It looks like Buckley's CAD shit. It became increasingly obvious when Lisa did it to Meg on Simpsons Guy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Dec 2015 01:32:43 No.77832646 Report

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>>77825200
Whoops, didn't mean to say the same thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Dec 2015 01:42:26 No.77832941 Report

Quoted By: >>77832980

>>77831416
She has makeup on.

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Anonymous Tue 01 Dec 2015 01:43:25 No.77832980 Report

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>>77832941
I'm sorry but...

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Dec 2015 01:45:30 No.77833035 Report

Quoted By: >>77833096 >>77833624

Given that cartoons are apparently so expensive to draw and such a chore to animate I feel like we should just go back to the days when the family would gather around the radio and listen to dramas and stories on there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Dec 2015 01:47:19 No.77833096 Report

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>>77833035
Motherfucker I'd be out of a job.

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Anonymous Tue 01 Dec 2015 01:49:02 No.77833148 Report

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>>77810706
People, people, please. Just because it's a dramatic scene, doesn't mean you can't do a little comedy in the background. Throw a pie or two, for God's sake.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Dec 2015 02:02:11 No.77833624 Report

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>>77833035
It sounds awesome, until you actually do it.

Besides you can kind of already do that with Podcasts. Same thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Dec 2015 02:20:00 No.77834187 Report

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>>77810706
It's pretty shitty considering it "takes $2M to make each episode" and with that quality especially evolving from the earlier seasons says something

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Dec 2015 02:22:49 No.77834264 Report

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>>77830085
dude you're just Italian. I do it to don't worry

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Dec 2015 02:39:43 No.77834749 Report

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>>77830440
Season 3 and 4 are also the show's peak in writing, season 3 being the show's peak in being funny with a little heart and season 4 being the show's peak in just being funny.

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Anonymous Tue 01 Dec 2015 02:48:59 No.77834995 Report

Quoted By: >>77835072 >>77836502

>>77814399
you mean this one?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Dec 2015 02:52:33 No.77835072 Report

Quoted By: >>77836436

>>77834995
>STEWIE'S ARM
FUCK

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Totorro Ha !/b/YM5aV/6 Tue 01 Dec 2015 03:58:28 No.77836436 Report

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>>77835072
Well in that scene it makes sense.

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Anonymous Tue 01 Dec 2015 04:01:49 No.77836502 Report

Quoted By: >>77837078

>>77806643
>>77814399
>>77816522
>>77834995

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Anonymous Tue 01 Dec 2015 04:11:43 No.77836689 Report

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>>77827460
>when /co/ has an avian FOTM

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Anonymous Tue 01 Dec 2015 04:20:19 No.77836847 Report

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Y'all are telling me you don't hold your hands out like this while talking?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Dec 2015 04:31:54 No.77837078 Report

Quoted By:

>>77836502
missing the lean forward with both arms out to the side to show sarcasm

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Dec 2015 05:25:45 No.77837962 Report

Quoted By:

>>77813128
Half the time, the dialogue is used as a segue. The jokes are also supposed to stand by themselves, and they really abuse character archetypes thing to tell the jokes.

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