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Anonymous Thu 07 Oct 14:43:12 2021 No.126191501 View Reply Original Report

>be harleen quinzel, a psychiatrist
>do a psychiatric interview with the joker
>is a psychiatrist so should be immune to the joker's schemes and manipulation
>ends up getting manipulated anyway
>falls in love
>become harley quinn and joker's girlfriend
>i'm just as crazy as he is and he totally loves me! (not)
>even though he's cruel to me i still love him

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Oct 2021 14:51:41 No.126191673 Report

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>>126191501
okay

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Oct 2021 14:54:11 No.126191724 Report

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>>126191501
Yes, that's correct.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Oct 2021 14:55:38 No.126191747 Report

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>>126191501
Harley Quinn is a female fantasy because she can literally blame every single other person in her life for her problems and never take responsibility

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Oct 2021 15:02:52 No.126191865 Report

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>>126191747
This statement applies to the modern-day Harley Quinn pretty much.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Oct 2021 15:04:14 No.126191889 Report

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>>126191501
i would rewrite it as she was studying psychiatry, read about the joker, saw him on tv, became obsessed with him, faked her creds to get closer to him to talk to him, then was manipulated by him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Oct 2021 15:04:16 No.126191890 Report

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>>126191501
when did writers stop making realistic women?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Oct 2021 15:04:25 No.126191891 Report

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>>126191865
Also, Modern Harley gets to act as retarded, autistic, slutty, and psycho as she wants. She never has to have actual self reflection or change, she’s like this weird adolescent feminist liberal whites woman fantasy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Oct 2021 15:15:58 No.126192080 Report

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>>126191889
>she becomes obsessed with him, faked her credits to get closer to him

That would be an interesting origin story. Much more interesting than the Joker throwing her into a vat of chemicals. Harley being an obsessive fangirl would add a new layer to her personality.

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Anonymous Thu 07 Oct 2021 15:22:31 No.126192176 Report

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>>126191890
Because if you portray a female character as a submissive, naive dormat you'll get called sexist and misogynistic

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Oct 2021 15:34:18 No.126192355 Report

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>>126191501
>is a psychiatrist so should be immune to the joker's schemes and manipulation

Fuck I should have gone for that MD so I could be immune to disease

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Oct 2021 15:36:56 No.126192398 Report

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>>126192355
>someone who studied psychiatry shouldn’t at least recognize classic manipulation tactics

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Oct 2021 15:41:11 No.126192469 Report

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>>126192355
based retard

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Anonymous Thu 07 Oct 2021 15:42:09 No.126192493 Report

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>>126191501
>should be immune to schemes and manipulation
What? It's not like a videogame where your character class comes with defensive traits.
"He became a cook, therefore should have been immune to being poisoned by food".

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Anonymous Thu 07 Oct 2021 15:47:03 No.126192585 Report

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>>126192493
see
>>126192398

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Anonymous Thu 07 Oct 2021 15:57:11 No.126192778 Report

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>>126192398
What the Joker did is like drugs to women. It doesn't matter if they can identify it.
>I can tell that I am addicted to cocaine, I should be able to stop by just recognizing it.

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Anonymous Thu 07 Oct 2021 16:07:11 No.126192973 Report

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>>126191501
At least in her original incarnation, she really wasn't all that bright.

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Anonymous Thu 07 Oct 2021 16:15:42 No.126193099 Report

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>>126192778
Basically charisma and being funny + manipulation skills can make any one wall into a man's trap

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Oct 2021 16:18:16 No.126193148 Report

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>>126192973
Those two r34 comics featuring her and that professor were so good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Oct 2021 16:19:40 No.126193169 Report

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>>126192973
Too bad they shafted this scene from the cartoon

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Oct 2021 16:27:28 No.126193288 Report

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>>126192973
This backstory always made more sense to me. Also makes Harley more pathetic/sympathetic since she really was in over her head at Arkham.
>>126192778
Then wouldn't there be tons of psychologists turned Joker lackeys if he can do it so easily?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Oct 2021 16:33:07 No.126193376 Report

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>>126193288
>Also makes Harley more pathetic/sympathetic since she really was in over her head at Arkham.
Not really. She wanted to be a psychiatrist because it was easy money coasting off royalties from talk shows and self-help books. She saw writing a book about The Joker as the ultimate meal ticket, which is why she chose Arkham for her internship to begin with.

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Anonymous Thu 07 Oct 2021 16:38:02 No.126193464 Report

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>>126191747
Huh. You're right.

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Anonymous Thu 07 Oct 2021 16:39:04 No.126193481 Report

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>>126193148
Show me

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Anonymous Thu 07 Oct 2021 16:40:12 No.126193499 Report

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>>126193481
Just search elmrtev on paheal.

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Anonymous Thu 07 Oct 2021 16:45:35 No.126193596 Report

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>>126193376
basically was only in it for the money

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Anonymous Thu 07 Oct 2021 16:56:24 No.126193768 Report

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>>126191501
>even though he's cruel to me i still love him
If you've ever met anyone who was in an abusive relationship, this part is sadly actually very realistic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Oct 2021 16:59:14 No.126193819 Report

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>>126193288
There ARE.
That was literally the end of Mad Love. Batman laying out to Harley that this "pretending to open up to manipulate them" was something Joker has done to several people before Harley and clearly SINCE.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Oct 2021 17:03:55 No.126193900 Report

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>>126191501
>>is a psychiatrist so should be immune to the joker's schemes and manipulation
This is where you’re wrong. Most of them have issues of their own and are terrible at their jobs.

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Anonymous Thu 07 Oct 2021 17:04:20 No.126193909 Report

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>>126191501
>joker's girlfriend

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Anonymous Thu 07 Oct 2021 17:04:53 No.126193916 Report

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>>126191501
hehe have sex quinzel lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Oct 2021 17:16:33 No.126194146 Report

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>>126193909
Only Harley believes he's her boyfriend

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Oct 2021 17:17:43 No.126194169 Report

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>>126194146
Of course. She's just a henchwoman to him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Oct 2021 17:26:21 No.126194306 Report

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>>126193916
I do have sex! Me and my puddin' have sex all the time! Whaddya think I am? Some kind of femcel?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Oct 2021 18:10:59 No.126194903 Report

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>>126193900
> Most of them have issues of their own and are terrible at their jobs.

True. They shouldn't be psychologists.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Oct 2021 18:11:01 No.126194906 Report

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>>126191501
>>is a psychiatrist so should be immune to the joker's schemes and manipulation

>is a world-class martial artist so should be able to defeat Joker in combat
>is a master manipulator so should be able to use Joker as a pawn
>is a genius scientist so should be able to reverse the damage Joker's done
>has shrugged off all kinds of diseases and poisons so should be unaffected by laughing toxin
do you get where I'm going with this

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Oct 2021 18:17:55 No.126194996 Report

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>>126194906
>defeating joker at combat
kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Oct 2021 18:21:22 No.126195037 Report

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>>126194996
Joker has posed a physical threat to characters he shouldn't somewhat consistently
>but he cheats
You'd think people would see that coming by now

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Oct 2021 18:37:58 No.126195263 Report

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>>126191889
>faked her creds to get closer to him to talk to him
Arkham reallly would be incompetent enough to let that happen.

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Anonymous Thu 07 Oct 2021 19:45:22 No.126196305 Report

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>>126192973
I like the idea that she's smart, but nowhere near as smart as she thinks she is. Out of all the doctors and leading experts within Batman's rogues, Harley is an intern, or something like that.
Not everyone needs to be a genius in a story.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Oct 2021 20:44:32 No.126197347 Report

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>>126193288
>Then wouldn't there be tons of psychologists turned Joker lackeys if he can do it so easily?
Most psychiatrists flee Arkham horrified before they saty long enough as to be manipulated. It is said most of the staff, guards and doctors alike, at any given point are new since almost nobody can endure being there for long.
That's part of why it's so inefficient.

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Anonymous Thu 07 Oct 2021 20:49:17 No.126197425 Report

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Did /co/ like this? I must've missed the threads back when it came out.

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Anonymous Thu 07 Oct 2021 20:50:36 No.126197446 Report

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>>126191501
yes

that is a description of events

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Oct 2021 21:02:36 No.126197631 Report

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>>126197425
It was the best Harley related media since BTAS.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Oct 2021 21:21:55 No.126197960 Report

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>>126191747
>>126191891
I always questioned why this supervillain was chosen as a lesbian feminist role model...but now I get it

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Anonymous Thu 07 Oct 2021 21:23:37 No.126197994 Report

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>>126197960
>I always questioned why this supervillain was chosen as a lesbian feminist role model...but now I get it

>lesbian

Her love for Joker (and Deadshot) cock knows no bounds, she's bisexual.

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Anonymous Thu 07 Oct 2021 21:26:40 No.126198050 Report

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>>126197425
why cant artists line up the eyes when someones wearing a mask?

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Anonymous Thu 07 Oct 2021 21:54:43 No.126198487 Report

Quoted By: >>126198612 >>126201621

>>126194906
Literally the Telltale version.

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Anonymous Thu 07 Oct 2021 22:00:13 No.126198564 Report

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>>126191673
What is the point of posting this

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Anonymous Thu 07 Oct 2021 22:00:59 No.126198577 Report

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>>126191501
People never consider the cultural context of when characters are created. The last two decades prior to Harley's creation had seen a rash of high profile serial killers like Ted Bundy and Jeffry Dahmer. Many of these guys had active fan bases of women who saw them as tortured souls, Bundy especially was considered a handsome charmer despite preying on women, he even got married while incarcerated. This phenomenon of people who romanticize danger when its at a controlled and safe distance weaves its way through every modern fandom, because it's a fantasy, but sometimes they become so wrapped up in the fantasy that they ignore the red flags which is exactly how people get trapped in actual abusive relationships. They thrive on the highs of the early courtship, clinging to the memory of the good times not recognizing that was all just a veneer for the true nature of the abuser, and every crumb of sweetness they dish out is little more than a booster shot to keep the victim holding out hope. What's more around the 80's there was a resurgence of satanic panic where a lot of shady psychologists and shrinks were looking to get rich off a book with their flimsy diagnosis of people's evils. Harley was a pastiche of these elements, an opportunist with no real interest in the psychiatric field beyond the high profile notoriety, who fell in love with a man she didn't truly understand, and stuck around because she was in too deep to quit.

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Anonymous Thu 07 Oct 2021 22:02:32 No.126198599 Report

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>>126194996

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Anonymous Thu 07 Oct 2021 22:03:36 No.126198612 Report

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>>126198487
Telltale Batman is underrated desu.

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Anonymous Thu 07 Oct 2021 22:15:16 No.126198770 Report

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Anonymous Thu 07 Oct 2021 22:18:37 No.126198824 Report

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>>126191501
>is a psychiatrist so should be immune to the joker's schemes and manipulation
Psychiatry isn't magic anon. You don't become immune to lesser forms of manipulation just because you understand how they work.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Oct 2021 22:28:32 No.126198966 Report

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>>126198770
Injustice Harley looks the best. AK Harley is a close second. SSKtJL Harley looks the worst with that hairstyle. Hopefully she has alt skins in the game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Oct 2021 22:31:45 No.126199000 Report

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>>126191501
>helps Joker for years doing horrible shit
>has killed countless innocent people
>"oh no, Mista J is bad for me:
>hero to millions of young girls and women

Do people just pass over all the horrible shit she's done? Like it hasn't been a long time since she was poisoning Gotham's water supply.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Oct 2021 22:35:29 No.126199041 Report

Quoted By: >>126201415 >>126205922

>>126199000
People who actually see her as an empowering icon either don't know about the horrible shit she's done, or just rationalize all of that as being 100% the Joker's fault.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Oct 2021 22:56:00 No.126199373 Report

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>>126198577
Decent interpretation anon, will parrot this in future threads like it's my own.

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Anonymous Thu 07 Oct 2021 22:57:12 No.126199397 Report

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>>126198966
>Injustice Harley looks the best. AK Harley is a close second. SSKtJL Harley looks the worst with that hairstyle.
Agreed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Oct 2021 22:57:30 No.126199406 Report

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>>126199000
Women shed responsibility like dogs, see: pro abortion movements.

The Demon !!+TQvsWEjITn

The Demon !!+TQvsWEjITn Thu 07 Oct 2021 23:56:57 No.126200412 Report

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>>126196305

It makes more sense if she was a genius though. In the Batman universe you have to be either incredibly intelligent or superhuman to survive so it would make sense she dodges death with her smarts. However her weakness is her desire to be loved so that can play into balancing her out

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Anonymous Fri 08 Oct 2021 00:04:18 No.126200534 Report

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>>126198577
Good answer, Anon.

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Anonymous Fri 08 Oct 2021 00:06:17 No.126200572 Report

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>>126191501

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Anonymous Fri 08 Oct 2021 00:21:46 No.126200816 Report

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>>126199406
Women don't become pregnant by themselves, it's the dude's fault for cumming inside of them too. Wear condoms, or don't have sex.

t. pro-choicer

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Anonymous Fri 08 Oct 2021 00:43:50 No.126201213 Report

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>>126193376
If The Joker, as a character, had even a single ounce of real humanity and wasn't just this abstracted caricature of random evil craziness, this arguably could've cast him in a somewhat sympathetic light in that relationship too. Being a celebrity criminal is by no means a place of moral high ground granted, but when you're legally detained in what's ostensibly a hospital for psychological rehabilitation and your doctor is some hungry jackal constantly sniffing around to turn a quick buck over on anyone high profile and stupid enough to divulge personal information, lying and manipulating them as an authority figure feels at least understandable.

Harleen may have been hopelessly underqualified to handle him, but the power imbalance was still technically in her favor at the start despite her being too stupid to use it. This "tell all" book would've actively punished her patient if the thought of healthy personal growth ever even once crossed his mind, and could only ever reinforce him to double down on this twisted persona.

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Anonymous Fri 08 Oct 2021 00:52:41 No.126201388 Report

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>>126198770
Both on the left are the best of her redesign.

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Anonymous Fri 08 Oct 2021 00:53:54 No.126201415 Report

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>>126199041
I'm curious, what exact horrible shit she's done?

List them please.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Oct 2021 00:54:23 No.126201423 Report

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>>126195263
I mean, considering how often villains but out of there I wouldn’t be surprised.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Oct 2021 00:57:16 No.126201478 Report

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>>126201388
top left or bottom left?

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Anonymous Fri 08 Oct 2021 00:59:56 No.126201529 Report

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>>126201478
...both.

Couldve sworn I said that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Oct 2021 01:04:32 No.126201621 Report

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>>126198487
And she's straight-up more evil than the joker in that one

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Oct 2021 01:10:02 No.126201708 Report

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>>126191501
>be harleen quinzel, a psychatrist
>carelessly brap
What did they mean by this

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Oct 2021 01:14:27 No.126201771 Report

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>>126191501
She is not a psychiatrist, she literally spread her legs to get the diploma

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Oct 2021 01:17:29 No.126201830 Report

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>>126201529
my bad sometimes my eyes play tricks on me

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Oct 2021 01:32:18 No.126202051 Report

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i only like the dcau version of her

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Oct 2021 01:41:06 No.126202189 Report

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>>126191501
I feel like anyone who touches her but Timm goes out of their way to try and "fix" her each and every time.

>No, we can't have her be ditsy
>No, we can't have her be a subservient hench girl
to even full blown
>No, we can't have her be a villain

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Oct 2021 03:32:40 No.126203896 Report

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>>126197425
Did a good job of mixing both interpretations of the origin

Yes, she's smart and yes, she slept with her teacher because she's got issues that the Joker easily exploits

And art wise, what do I even need to say

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Oct 2021 05:30:11 No.126205775 Report

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>>126199373
thanks bruh

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Oct 2021 05:41:13 No.126205922 Report

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>>126199041
this. she's the ultimate woobie

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Anonymous Fri 08 Oct 2021 05:49:05 No.126206032 Report

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>>126198770
that fortnite skin looks dope although its not the original design

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Anonymous Fri 08 Oct 2021 06:34:03 No.126206604 Report

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totally romantic, yup

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Oct 2021 07:47:47 No.126207350 Report

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>>126191501
It's an open secret in psychiatric healthcare that female staff ends up falling in love and sleep with the patients, including the female psychiatrists. There has been plenty of incidents of that happening. Imo only male personnel should work in psychiatry, both because of what I described above and because of the safety issue of mental patients turn violent etc.
>t.former psych-ward worker with several years of experience

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Anonymous Fri 08 Oct 2021 08:01:15 No.126207454 Report

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>>126201415
here's her blowing up a bunch of kids by disguising bombs as handheld video game consoles

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The Demon !!+TQvsWEjITn Fri 08 Oct 2021 09:23:01 No.126208102 Report

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>>126207454

Retconned because the writer was retarded and never brought up again. Stop posting this shit.

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Anonymous Fri 08 Oct 2021 11:03:28 No.126208772 Report

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>>126199000
Blame her creators for making her sympathetic and capable of being rehabilitated in her original incarnation.

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Anonymous Fri 08 Oct 2021 11:08:25 No.126208798 Report

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>>126191501
>how did Dani get manipulated by the cult?

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Anonymous Fri 08 Oct 2021 11:08:46 No.126208801 Report

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Just goes to show that even retarded sluts can do well in school

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Oct 2021 12:01:34 No.126209181 Report

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>>126207454
Wasn't that retconned?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Oct 2021 12:14:40 No.126209316 Report

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>>126193288
Hiw else do you think Joker escaped arkham so many times?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Oct 2021 12:18:51 No.126209359 Report

Quoted By: >>126209484

WB's The Batman had the most underrated Harley

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Oct 2021 12:22:41 No.126209398 Report

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>>126208798
Is this from a TV show?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Oct 2021 12:29:14 No.126209461 Report

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>>126209398
Movie. Midsommar.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Oct 2021 12:31:24 No.126209484 Report

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>>126209359
agree
it's a shame we won't get that harley again

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