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Anonymous Mon 13 Sep 23:51:02 2021 No.125728435 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>125728626 >>125728881 >>125728948 >>125729024 >>125729458 >>125729972 >>125733609 >>125734005 >>125736507 >>125736513 >>125736753 >>125737910

There have been many dumb decisions in the Krakoa era of the X-Men, but this was the worse one.

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Anonymous Mon 13 Sep 2021 23:55:02 No.125728506 Report

Quoted By: >>125728568 >>125728602 >>125729234 >>125731477 >>125733540 >>125734106 >>125736798 >>125736848

>Reed makes a device that can fuck over mutants
>Just leaves it around in his lab without any security around it
>Even though villains can and have find ways to break in
>Especially now, at a time where enemies would be most eager to steal it
Reed's device could hurt their entire species. As cruel as this was, Reed has much less to lose in this situation, no matter what happens. And if the shoe were on the other foot somehow, you'd all be rooting for the humans.

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Anonymous Tue 14 Sep 2021 00:00:05 No.125728568 Report

Quoted By: >>125734029

>>125728506
Dude, everybody and their momma has a anti X gene device at this point, it isn't something new. Charles problem is that instead of actually talking to Reed about using it as a legit weapon against sentinels, he decides just to rub his balls in his face just so.

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Anonymous Tue 14 Sep 2021 00:02:51 No.125728602 Report

Quoted By: >>125728690

>>125728506
Thats weak bullshit reasoning and you know it. They could have asked him to destroy the device and explain the risk something like that has and Reed would agree. What Xavier did is such a deep violation that its just straight up something a villain would do. And it does nothing but potentially create an adversary out of the smartest person on the planet who has the capibilty of creating super advanced tech that could undo their entire existence is a fucking stupid move.

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Anonymous Tue 14 Sep 2021 00:04:26 No.125728626 Report

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>>125728435
It's hard to remember the last X book i actually liked

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Anonymous Tue 14 Sep 2021 00:06:59 No.125728690 Report

Quoted By: >>125729281 >>125736504

>>125728602
>its just straight up something a villain would do.
It's almost like... that's the point...

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Anonymous Tue 14 Sep 2021 00:08:35 No.125728727 Report

Quoted By: >>125728818 >>125729943

Couldn’t Reed just create a device to undo Charles’ mind rape

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Anonymous Tue 14 Sep 2021 00:12:13 No.125728818 Report

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>>125728727
Thats kind of assumed to be what he did. Reed whispers something to Charles when he arrives at the Hellfire Gala and Xavier looked kind of taken aback from it.

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Anonymous Tue 14 Sep 2021 00:14:22 No.125728881 Report

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>>125728435
Was it ever explained why Xavier was running around dressed like the Maker?

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Anonymous Tue 14 Sep 2021 00:16:33 No.125728948 Report

Quoted By: >>125729136 >>125731127 >>125735397

>>125728435
Why can't these guys be heroes again? Why did they turn them into mad politicians who act like they're gods?

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Anonymous Tue 14 Sep 2021 00:18:51 No.125729024 Report

Quoted By: >>125736819

>>125728435
Mutant telepaths shouldn't be able to get into people like Reed's mind in the first place. Anti-TP devices are normal in MU, things like this are stupid plot which shouldn't happen, same goes Emma controlling UN to found Krakoa

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Anonymous Tue 14 Sep 2021 00:22:50 No.125729136 Report

Quoted By: >>125729290 >>125729708 >>125730131

>>125728948
Because Marvel decided to make them spend 15 years being genocided and then the first writer with the authority to write them in a new status quo decided to force his rejected sci-fi novel into their setting

>hmm yes Goldballs was actually making eggs this whole time
>hmm yes, Moira has secretly been a mutant this whole time
>hmm yes, Xavier has been using Cerebro to record eveyone's mind this whole time

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Anonymous Tue 14 Sep 2021 00:26:25 No.125729234 Report

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>>125728506
those niggas kidnapped his son and then dumped him back when he wasn't useful to them anymore

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Anonymous Tue 14 Sep 2021 00:28:06 No.125729281 Report

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>>125728690
But most of the writers have lost the momo on that since the X-Men are minority expies therefore they're woobie sues who can't do wrong. Even when they're hiring/protecting actual Nazis.

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Anonymous Tue 14 Sep 2021 00:28:25 No.125729290 Report

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>>125729136
>Because Marvel decided to make them spend 15 years being genocided
Because X-Men fans kept calling the 2005-2012 era "one of the best eras in X-Men history". Marvel heard you liked extinction stories so they kept doing them.

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Anonymous Tue 14 Sep 2021 00:30:05 No.125729332 Report

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>>125729290
Outside of like the mid/late 10s most x-men eras get praised while they happen. Or if not then retroactivley.

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Anonymous Tue 14 Sep 2021 00:34:34 No.125729458 Report

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>>125728435
>Reed looking absolutely uninterested.
kek, they're lucky Reed didn't take a shit on the both of them then and there.

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Anonymous Tue 14 Sep 2021 00:43:04 No.125729708 Report

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>>125729136
>>hmm yes Goldballs was actually making eggs this whole time
I like gold ball in the Miles Morales Spider-Man book.

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Anonymous Tue 14 Sep 2021 00:45:29 No.125729781 Report

Quoted By: >>125729830 >>125729959

At this point, can this be considered fanfiction? Is this something fans of FF and X-Men actually want? It's like I'm reading some kind of parody written by someone who wants to "reinvent" comics.

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Anonymous Tue 14 Sep 2021 00:46:22 No.125729813 Report

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Anonymous Tue 14 Sep 2021 00:47:03 No.125729830 Report

Quoted By: >>125729873

>>125729781
Apparently when you are the son of the most popular Heroes on the planet and your reality Whopper you don't feel special enough so you decided to make it seem to be a mutant.

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Anonymous Tue 14 Sep 2021 00:47:26 No.125729842 Report

Quoted By: >>125730347

>Charles. Were you aware that I know more about Pym Particles than Hank Pym himself? UNLEASH THE QUANTUM SENTINELS!!!

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Anonymous Tue 14 Sep 2021 00:48:52 No.125729873 Report

Quoted By: >>125730007

>>125729830
Explain.

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Anonymous Tue 14 Sep 2021 00:51:22 No.125729943 Report

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>>125728727
considering all the telepaths in Marvel Reed should learn to keep an anti-mind rape device handy at all times

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Anonymous Tue 14 Sep 2021 00:51:55 No.125729959 Report

Quoted By: >>125730082 >>125736430

>>125729781
This guy is a bit of an autist but he's right that the change in editorial style in the early 90s means that everything after it is fan fiction

http://originalmarveluniverse.blogspot.com/2009/06/omu-end.html

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Sep 2021 00:52:28 No.125729972 Report

Quoted By: >>125731173

>>125728435
>"You don't get to do whatever you want," said the murderous supervillain Magneto while destroying someone else's property. "Your wild, unchecked actions are now being checked."

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Anonymous Tue 14 Sep 2021 00:53:27 No.125730007 Report

Quoted By: >>125730082

>>125729873
That was the justification for makes Mister Fantastic son not a mutant anymore .

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Anonymous Tue 14 Sep 2021 00:56:08 No.125730082 Report

Quoted By: >>125730131

>>125730007
I don't understand. Aren't people born with non-magic powers mutants? Or is this an arbitrary reason to shit on another character?
>>125729959
I meant is this even on the level of fanfiction? Does any of this seem like something an actual fan of these characters would write? I've read actual ones better than this shit.

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Anonymous Tue 14 Sep 2021 00:58:11 No.125730131 Report

Quoted By: >>125730216

>>125730082
>I meant is this even on the level of fanfiction?

In that case no. Like I said in >>125729136, it's just Hickman's rejected sci-fi novel repackaged into an existing universe.

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Anonymous Tue 14 Sep 2021 01:00:45 No.125730195 Report

Quoted By: >>125735065 >>125735087

I still think the "Franklin throws all mutants and their bullshit into a dimension where they ARE the only people with superpowers and replaces them with the X-Men '92 cast" idea would be fucking hilarious.

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Anonymous Tue 14 Sep 2021 01:01:35 No.125730216 Report

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>>125730131
What a colossal fuck up. He could've just asked to write his own independent series then.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Sep 2021 01:07:32 No.125730347 Report

Quoted By: >>125736367

>>125729842

Imagine if an army of Sentinels enlarges out of nowhere inside Krakoa. Or even better if they remain at a size where they can't be detected or harmed and start smashing people's atoms.

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Anonymous Tue 14 Sep 2021 01:42:00 No.125731127 Report

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>>125728818
This is such an obvious continuation to the above that it just makes Xavier look like a retard.

>>125728948
I can't honestly remember a bonafide hero being in Marvel since 2014.

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Anonymous Tue 14 Sep 2021 01:44:05 No.125731173 Report

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>>125729972
In all fairness, Reed's been on the other end of this exchange a lot of times.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Sep 2021 01:49:08 No.125731281 Report

Quoted By: >>125731311

Couldnt Reed just have made them a Universe of their own? he made one to store his Infinity Gem once.

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Anonymous Tue 14 Sep 2021 01:50:39 No.125731311 Report

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>>125731281
Muggas are too proud to admit they need help. If they weren't, they'd go back crawling to X-Man on their hands and knees and beg him to help them make that new universe.

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Anonymous Tue 14 Sep 2021 01:59:48 No.125731477 Report

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>>125728506
>Device is dangerous to mutants
>Instead of asking one of your oldest friends and allies a man you used to do shady glow nigger shit with to get rid of it
>You instead violate his mind
>Then have the gall to let him remember
It's not that he destroyed it it's the fact that he fucked Reed like that you self inserting faggot

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Anonymous Tue 14 Sep 2021 02:38:27 No.125732283 Report

Quoted By: >>125734089

>alienate a living god-like entity that can make pocket universes unconsciously just because some stupid local politics and nazi like purity issues
>then mess with one of the most intelligent beings in the galaxy that 11 of 10 times turns into a multidimensional menace when got his wrong buttons pushed or go mad, whatever it came first
I know they want to write mutants as arrogant self righteous assholes, but this is downright stupidly for allegedly political masterminds like Charles and Magneto...

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Anonymous Tue 14 Sep 2021 03:42:30 No.125733504 Report

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>>125728881
It was Hickman's fetish bullshit in full effect.

Hickman wanted to permanently mask Xavier in that mask going back to 2012 when he took over Avengers. The plan was for Xavier, not Beast, to be part of the New Avengers Illuminati and that he would start wearing the helmet full time and be exclusive to New Avengers so that Bendis and Aaron couldn't ignore Xavier wearing a hoodless zentai suit and metal dom mask.

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Anonymous Tue 14 Sep 2021 03:44:33 No.125733540 Report

Quoted By: >>125736254

>>125728506
Isn't the Baxter building secure as hell

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Anonymous Tue 14 Sep 2021 03:48:14 No.125733609 Report

Quoted By: >>125733722 >>125733771 >>125734255

>>125728435
>You don't get to do whatever you want anymore, Richards. Your wild unchecked actions are now being checked
......You mean literally everything you and your Jim Jones ass acting motherfuckers have been doing on Krakoa/Mars this entire time? Oh and
>We cannot allow AI to be developed at any cost
So just fuck Vision, FRIDAY, Viv, and Jocasta I guess? You know what the glorious fucking thing is? Going space empire will be the thing to fuck mutants over. The Galactic Community will get so fed up with their superiority complex, they'll commission Space Sentinels

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Anonymous Tue 14 Sep 2021 03:54:09 No.125733722 Report

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>>125733609
The plan is to hide behind the Shi'Ar Empire, combined with the implication from recent issues of SWORD that Brand has gone full supervillain and is actively plotting to use Mars as the launching pad to basically enslave all of the major space empires and do something super bad to Storm to basically turn her into a mindless puppet that Brande controls from behind the scenes.

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Anonymous Tue 14 Sep 2021 03:56:37 No.125733771 Report

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>>125733609
They've danced around the Avengers AI family. Trial of Magneto most likely will address at least Vision, but I'm still waiting for Marvel to retcon Moira and Xavier brainwashing Mockingbird and the people behind the UN into dissecting/erasing Vision's brain and possibly worse to Wanda and company during the Byrne run.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Sep 2021 04:11:08 No.125734005 Report

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>>125728435
Zdarsky is a terrible fucking writer

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Sep 2021 04:12:27 No.125734029 Report

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>>125728568
He's gonna regret destroying it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Sep 2021 04:14:01 No.125734057 Report

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>>125729281
They really shouldn't be minority expies though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Sep 2021 04:16:07 No.125734089 Report

Quoted By:

>>125732283
It really is.

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Anonymous Tue 14 Sep 2021 04:17:39 No.125734106 Report

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>>125728506
The Device could also help them in missions.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Sep 2021 04:30:10 No.125734255 Report

Quoted By: >>125736844

>>125733609
I just want Ultron to rape Krakoa at this point. Maybe he can upgrade sentinels to aid him.

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Anonymous Tue 14 Sep 2021 05:27:34 No.125735065 Report

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>>125730195
It's really the only solution now

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Sep 2021 05:29:32 No.125735087 Report

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>>125730195
90s X-Men sucked

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Sep 2021 06:02:19 No.125735397 Report

Quoted By:

>>125728948
Because they continuously invite villains to join their team.

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Anonymous Tue 14 Sep 2021 07:40:50 No.125736254 Report

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>>125733540
They're living in Ben's multi-dimensional basement now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Sep 2021 07:57:21 No.125736367 Report

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>>125730347
>They've been inside your head since you've left my lab, Charles. My backups have backups, I have plans for your plans. And this one involves an intercranial lobotomy. Welcome to the human race.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Sep 2021 08:07:31 No.125736430 Report

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>>125729959
Reminds me of the "FF is The Great American Novel" guy.
Boomer comic fans are really interesting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Sep 2021 08:18:54 No.125736504 Report

Quoted By: >>125736763 >>125736836

>>125728690
nobody thinks this is the point except for you and the 5 other retards on the board posting this. the point is that theyre fighting to survive and cant afford to keep the moral high ground, but theyre hardly villains

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Anonymous Tue 14 Sep 2021 08:19:36 No.125736507 Report

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>>125728435
>right to survive
What a joke. When Pimpleshot the mutant kills someone with his puss, that's just a beautiful moment of him discovering his powers. But inconvenience a mutant and it's genocide.
Fuck muties!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Sep 2021 08:20:28 No.125736513 Report

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>>125728435
>you don't get to do what you want
>coming from the mutants doing anything they want
God I can't wait for Krakoa to get GENOSHA'D

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Anonymous Tue 14 Sep 2021 08:22:34 No.125736536 Report

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>>125729813
The way the arm rest melds into the chair leg makes it look like he's casually wielding a blunderbuss.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Sep 2021 08:55:00 No.125736753 Report

Quoted By: >>125736827

>>125728435
Question.
If I understand things right, during the 90s celestial s visited Earth to do the final judgement, saw Franklin and decided NOT to destroy the planet because Franklin’s mutant existence means the science experiment worked,
With Franklin being retconned into not being a mutant and currently depowered, isn’t Earth one stray celestial away from getting genocide by celestial?

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Anonymous Tue 14 Sep 2021 08:56:01 No.125736763 Report

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>>125736504
Hank McCoy fantasizes about the mass genocide off the entire human race on a daily basis.

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Anonymous Tue 14 Sep 2021 09:01:00 No.125736798 Report

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>>125728506
>species
They're not a different fucking species

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Anonymous Tue 14 Sep 2021 09:03:24 No.125736819 Report

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>>125729024
Isn't Ultimate Maker Reed immune to telepathy?

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Anonymous Tue 14 Sep 2021 09:04:58 No.125736827 Report

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>>125736753
Maybe Mutants existing is just an accident, and Franklin was the end result, a Human being with natural power cosmic affinity.

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Anonymous Tue 14 Sep 2021 09:06:00 No.125736836 Report

Quoted By: >>125736849

>>125736504
>Hardly villains
>Literally murdering and blackmailing everyone to "Survive"
>And by survive they mean rule the world.

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Anonymous Tue 14 Sep 2021 09:06:58 No.125736844 Report

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>>125734255
>Krakoa goes after Wanda, Vision teams up with Ultron to get revenge
Fuck it, makes as much sense as anything in Marvel these days.

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Anonymous Tue 14 Sep 2021 09:07:15 No.125736848 Report

Quoted By:

>>125728506
Fpbp

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Anonymous Tue 14 Sep 2021 09:07:29 No.125736849 Report

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>>125736836
An extraterrestrial empire literally congratulates them for conquering the earth. Can't get more clear than that.

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Anonymous Tue 14 Sep 2021 11:19:36 No.125737910 Report

Quoted By: >>125738274

>>125728435
Reed would not and should not care about any of his inventions being destroyed, he makes countless toys just because he can. He's made more meaningful inventions on a mere lark and then forgotten about them than there's sand in the ocean.

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Anonymous Tue 14 Sep 2021 11:24:46 No.125737959 Report

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>mutants throw a shitfit about Reed making some random anti-mutant device
>meanwhile he's casually reverse engineered the Ultimate Nullifier countless times
As usual muties can't see the forest for the trees.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Sep 2021 11:54:15 No.125738274 Report

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>>125737910
It's about boundaries and respect. Xavier invaded them and showed none, respectively.

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