Why does Death Battle easily get 70% of their battles wrong?
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>>117563099 Because they are shit? I dont know what else to tell you.
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>>117563099 Wally ? Titan Tails > Master Mogul > Enerjak = Turbo Tails > Chaos Knuckles > False Turbo Clone > Hyper Knuckles > Eggman Mech > Geoffrey > Evil Antoine > Fang > Sonic
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>>117563099 They always give DC the win. Unless its Batman then they make him lose because no prep time allowed.
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>>117563099 Because fights in medium are narrative tools.
No comic writer sits down, looks over the pool of feats and achievements for a character, and goes "hmmm yes i suppose in a fight he scales to believably beat this other character". They decide fights based on what they think tells the best story.
Death Battle is an autistic attempt to make what is at the end of the day fanfiction fights seem more sophisticated and intelligent than they are.
also force equivalent to 400,000,000,000 shittatons of TNT
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>>117563099 >owned by AT&T They are contractually obligated to. Gotta shill the characters of their parent company.
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>>117563099 DChads win again.
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>>117563099 >NOOOOOO MY HECKIN FAVORITE CHARACTER DIDN'T WIN!!! Anonymous
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>>117563099 Better question:
Why do you easily watch Death Battle upon knowing that their battles are wrong?
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>>117563168 Luthor? Wonder Woman?
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>>117563099 Because they are shit, but it doesn't matter if they get it wrong or right. Half the comments they get are just terrible requests for future battles they mostly ignore, while the other half are people complaining about how they're wrong. Any publicity is good publicity when it comes to clicks.
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>>117563099 Because they like to lie and withold information about a characters abilities.
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Thors Snorresson from Vinland Saga, against Kuroki Gensai from Kengan Asura.
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>>117563801 Nah, Archie Sonic just sucks ass
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>>117563099 Pic unrelated ofc
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>>117563099 >70% with how retarded and biased the dudes who make this cringe are I just take the opposite of every result as the true winner
saiyans are by far some of the weakest characters in fantasy considering how often they die over and over
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>>117565693 >He thinks Thor beats Wonder Woman Anonymous
>>117565648 Nice try shill.
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>>117565807 He does. Cope, furry
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>>117563099 You were expecting Wally "faster than instant teleportation Speed Force wizard" West to lose?
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>>117563099 so you keep talking about them
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>>117566032 But could they beat Legend of Gilgamesh Gilamesh though?
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>>117563099 Furries on suicide watch
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>wildstorm is a single multiverse in DC >it’s worth 133 quindecillion universes, 133 sexdecillion if you account for DC universes being 1000 times bigger than ours >superman scales to people who threaten multiverses >max wank goku with multipliers is like 10,000 universes
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>>117566032 Don't know anything about FSN but given FF's Gilgamesh is canonically a jobber (it's his defining character trait in fact) I don't like his chances.
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>>117563099 They actually get it right most of the time it’s just that fanboys will suck the cock of their favorite characters and make them stronger than they are.
Also VS debating isn’t an exact science, so how you look at feats is open to interpretation. So of course you could underplay or overplay a feat depending on how you view it.
Spider-man can be Solar System level for hurting heralds of Galactus and the Hulk, or wall level for being hurt by bullets. It’s hard gauge and getting mad at interpretation is retarded.
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>>117567818 Thor should have won yes, but Rogue killed her. GA and Deathstroke also lost. Well, so much for the idea they favor DC, I guess you'll need a new excuse.
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>>117571320 They retconned WW losing to Rogue in the Deadpool vs Mask episode.
They are DCfags and literally everyone knows this.
Look at Canary, a human with no special durablility, loses to Sindel.
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>>117571320 No, too slow in travel and reaction speed, doesn’t pack enough power compared to Diana,
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>>117563099 WTF NOOOOOOOO! YOUR ANYTHING PROOF INFINITY +1 CHARACTER CAN'T BEAT MY ANYTHING PROOF INFINITY +1 CHARACTER! MINE'S... UH... INFINITY +2!
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>>117571458 fuck you retard my character has an infinity*infinity-proof shield
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>>117565702 He does. They keep counting the Shattered God feat for her, even though it's something she failed to do, and they didn't use Thor's best feat of strength. They claimed she's 8,000 times stronger than he is, but really he's sixty thousand times stronger than she is.
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>>117571483 They didn’t use her best feat either. Her fight with Billy threatened to destroy the universe
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>>117571384 No, it's something retards keep trying to push, so they don't have to admit their husbando lost legitimately.
>a human with no special durablility No one in MK is a normal human with no special durability.
>>117571424 Thor is fast enough to counter FTL speed, he's done it to Quicksilver, and when you look at his ACTUAL best feats of strength, he's 60,000 times stronger than she is.
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>>117571537 Measuring characters by how they do against each other is always iffy, because the needs of the plot dictate who wins and what happens.
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>>117571554 Sindel was beaten by Canary so thanks for proving my point retard
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>>117571593 What makes you think Canary's win wasn't legit?
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>>117571320 Both Arrow's and Deathstroke's fight were made before RT was sold to Warner. Arrow's fight was at least decided in canon, but I'll give you Batman vs Black Panther as it definitely came after being sold.
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>>117571758 I'm not saying they get everything right. Cap should have smoked Batman, Thor should have pasted Wonder Woman, Tigerzord should have wasted Epyon, and in Link vs Cloud they kind of went against their own "this is what they choose to use" rule regarding player customizable arsenals, and gave Link the red ring that reduced damage by 75%, he had that in only 2 games I think. There's a few others but those are what comes to mind.
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Ins't Sonic below speed of light?
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>>117570128 So is Fate Gil.
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>>117572009 In Archiek, his speed is "infinite" and can;t be calculated. Unfortunately, Wally's speed is "faster than instant," meaning faster than infinite, because he arrives before he leaves. Plus he can just keep taking speed from Sonic, so no matter how much Sonic increases his speed, he's just making Wally faster as well. What killed it however is the fact Sonic's super forms have time limits, and Wally can move through time.
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>>117572197 Shouldnt shadow be this broken too. Whybis it that he has nothing but bad showings compared to the others every time i read this comic.
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>>117572244 I...guess? If you mean his fight with Vegeta, they weren't using the Archie version, this was the first time they've done that.
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>>117572244 They used Games Shadow and I think they nerf him a bit in his matches not using his best feats but it has been awhile since I watched them. Archie Shadow is different
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>>117571705 Because Canary is a regular thot who can scream loud and Sindel is a demigod who could crush Canarys entire body with a single punch.
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>>117563099 Problem was that Archie Sonic's representation was wrong. Bitch didn't even put up a fight or blitz Flash when he had the chance. Also "transformations" always end up losing. Called it.
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>>117572268 Game shadow still scales to sonic in everything plus chaos powers and has multiversal scaling with solaris.
Archie shadow was the biggest jobber in the comic, next to knuckles.
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>>117572244 Nah archie shadow sucks compared to archie sonic
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>>117572337 Solaris doesn’t count because they had to target his light shells that anchored him and even that wasn’t enough so they messed up its consciousness
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>>117572337 Isn't Archie Knuckles arguably more broken than Archie Sonic due to Penders autism and shit like Enerjak?
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>>117572295 Canary was packing more power though. Also MK characters aren’t particularly fast. Even if you scale to the resident speedster.
>>117572327 Dracula transformed first
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I'm going with socialism on this one. It's like they get it right the first time but then someone always has to question whether the weaker character SHOULD lose the battle so they rewrite the battle.
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>>117572295 They showed you the superhuman shit Canary has done, even if she's "human." I suggest you get over it.
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>>117572367 Ins't every Archie Sonic character ridiculously broken? Afair Archie Tails is Reed Richards tier supergenius.
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>>117572327 >blitz Flash >outspeed someone faster than instant Good luck with that, Sonic was literally never faster than Flash at any point.
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>>117572367 Sonic and Knuckles had the biggest power scaling feats, shadow was inferior compared. Shadow was unwhealmed and nerfrd so bad, they pretty much stated he sucks compared to knuckles and lien da in chaos power and made him a unable to beat sonic at his best years making him beat an out of his prime sonic.
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>>117572413 They are definitely way stronger yes. Archie Tails is probably THE most powerful character in it due to Titan Tails....but we don't talk about Titan Tails
Knuckles has shit like Hyper Knuckles, Green Knuckles, and Enerjak
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>>117572413 I think thats Eggman
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>>117572432 The writers hated shadow and made his arc deviantart worthy instead of fun and spectacular as fitting to the ultimate lifeform.
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>>117572428 Sonic, I mean Archie Sonic in particular, is a toon. Fantasy physics doesn't apply to logic here.
The fastest "thing" alive only gets faster when he stands next to the fastest man in DC.
But honestly Death Battle acts like the Flash is the best fighter in the JL when he gets tripped up by far slower opponents/traps all the time.
>outspeed someone faster than instant And yet he still gets punched by someone infinitely slower than him. Why is that?
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>>117572616 He relaxes against them, and DC is no strangers to toons, Wally is still faster
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>>117572440 I think the way super transformations in Sonic the Hedgehog work is just like in DBZ. Sonic visibly gets stronger over time, making Super Sonic multiply his base power x1,000. I think after 200 issues, Super Sonic and other super forms would've overpowered Titan Tails by now.
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>>117566032 Fate Gilgamesh got killed by a regular human, he’s complete trash.
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>>117572686 Wasn't that him nerfed on top of getting shot by Archer? It is more him being a cocky idiot because he never sees the need to try as that is beneath him
Also depends on which Fate Gilgamesh you are dealing with as well
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>>117572337 >Game shadow still scales to sonic in everything plus chaos powers and has multiversal scaling with solaris. Doesn't scale to time eater. He was turned into stone in the void. Sonic wasn't.
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>>117572754 also the void doesn't just turn you into stone, it sends your existance drifting into the nothing as Tails explained.
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>>117572667 Because Wally is titled "Fastest Man Alive/Fastest in all of DC".
Sonic's title is "Fastest Thing Alive". So his toon force would become stupid broken because he's a walking multiplier against anyone in or outside his universe. Like Quickman vs Sonic when Quickman is insanely faster than all of Sonic's feats.
I'm not even bringing up the feat that he "can't permanently lose" to back up the toonforce physics. Flash cheated fate before, so did Sonic. However, it's god's word that he's supposed to be faster than anything next to him. Literal "my fiction is stronger than yours" from the writers themselves.
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>>117572803 I dunno why you wanna impress me with this lightspeed shit, and I don’t know any of Quickman’s feats to compare but it’s probably not that impresssive. Sonic just wasn’t fast enough and Wally could always speed steal anyway if he got close. There is nothing saying he will always be faster than anyone he crosses over with and most things Archie Sonic has a crossover with don’t exactly have a high threshold for speed
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>>117572803 >Wally is titled "Fastest Man Alive/Fastest in all of DC >Sonic's title is "Fastest Thing Alive". Oh, so being called the fastest when it's Flash means only in DC, but when it's Sonic it means fastest of anything, period. Jesus fuck, are you CWC or something? He lost fair and square, get over it. I swear to God Sonic fans are worse than Ben 10 faggots.
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>>117572754 Shadow was not turned to stone.
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>>117572880 >Sonicfags worse than Benfags >When they didn't even freak out at Sonic losing to Wally >Barely even 10% dislikes >Meanwhile DCfags had an aneurysm for almost two weeks calling the matched rigged and Sonic was going to win >They STILL complained even after Wally won Anonymous
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Every DC character has some gay ass powerscaling shit that's way worse than anything anime does
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>>117572857 >Sonic didn't prove he's faster than the Flash. True. The second the enter the same dimension, he just becomes faster anything in the room.
>speed steal Billionth power ring, emeralds, and the fact that his speed is still faster than whatever is the fastest thing breaks that power. Toonforce
>There is nothing saying he will always be faster than anyone he crosses over with What does "fastest thing alive" mean? That's his super power.
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>>117573009 Sonic Boom, not Archie Sonic, learn the difference, this is all just your headcanon because Sonic was faster than Quickman, but here’s the thing, toon force or not, Quick Man was just lightspeed, he wasn’t made faster, he already was by his feats above Quick Man before the crossover. Wally however has a higher ceiling Sonic can’t beat. Sonic also can’t properly counter speed steal as his aura was only temporary from the billionth ring, and the Emeralds don’t actually give Sonic his stolen speed back, it just fuels him back to base, kinda like pouring water into a leaking cup. All you got is headcanon because the fact Wally won makes you seethe as he’s just faster.
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>>117572880 >fastest when it's Flash means only in DC Sonic isn't a man you illiterate. Rent free on Ben 10 is this is coming from a Superman chad.
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>>117573009 Even if Sonic can recover his speed, flash still stole it, which was a big point towards his win, the fact that he could indefinitely steal speed/power.
As for the whole "fastest thing alive", nevermind hyperbole, both of the characters have shown feats of infinite speed, so it really doesn't matter.
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>>117573075 >>117573147 >Speed stealing Again, Sonic breaks Flash's speed stealing because when Flash gets faster, Sonic will become faster than Flash, and the loop will continue forever infinitely. Sonic's toonforce allows this to happen.
>>117573075 >Quickman feats Sonic isn't proven by feats, that's not the argument. His power is that he becomes faster than anything around him. He scales to anyone in his path. No matter how high the ceiling, it only becomes higher from Sonic.
>then why Super Sonic? Because the powerleverfags believe that Super Sonic = Super Saiyan. All it does is providing flight and invulnerability on top of Sonic's infinite speed, which again, never runs out no matter how many speed steals leeched off of him.
>Wally won makes you seethe as he’s just faster. Except when Sonic is in the same universe with him. Keep up.
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>>117572959 Flash fans also being assholes doesn't make Sonic fans any better.
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>>117573272 Headcanon, prove it
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>>117573272 >Again, Sonic breaks Flash's speed stealing because when Flash gets faster, Sonic will become faster than Flash, and the loop will continue forever infinitely. Sonic's toonforce allows this to happen. Wow, it's almost like they said their actual speeds cancel each other out. Also, proof that Sonic becomes faster if something that's faster than him enters his world?
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>>117573272 >Sonic isn't proven by feats Once again, 4chan sucks at vs debating. Everything has to be established with feats. If not, it doesn't exist.
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>>117573302 Prove Sonic automatically becomes faster than everyone no matter who he meets
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>>117573317 >proof that Sonic becomes faster if something that's faster than him enters his world? Quickman - Archie comics
Infinite - Videogames
Add "Sonic can't permanently lose" aka "Death Battle rules" and then toonforce applies to his powerset.
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>>117573288 I'd put it:
DC powerfags>Ben powerfags>Sonic powerfags>=Sonic in general>DC in general>Ben in general
DC powerfags are definitely the worst
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>>117573372 >Quickman - Archie comics >Infinite - Videogames You're going to need to do better than that. This is your claim, that Sonic's speed changes if he meets something that's faster than he had been before he met it. So, you need scans, videos, something. It's your claim, you either prove it, or your claim is wrong whether you like it or not. Welcome to vs debating.
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>>117573389 >DC powerfags are definitely the worst Apparently you never saw Magneto,Sentry, Thor, Storm and Reed Richards threads.
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>>117573389 >DC powerfags are definitely the worst Ah, so which loser was your husbando then?
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>>117573433 None. Just watching along their insanity in the leadup to Sonic VS Wally over two weeks. They were crazy.
Then there is the ongoing Ben VS Hal thing they still don't shut up about to this day (but Benfags are just as annoying)
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>verse is notoriously robbed out of easy wins >"hmm what should we do? There are clearly angry fans waiting for a win" >"I know, cement the loss ratio even further!"
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>>117573462 >Then there is the ongoing Ben VS Hal thing they still don't shut up about to this day (but Benfags are just as annoying) Those threads are made by a Marvelfag
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>>117573474 I dunno. Ben likes Archie Sonic a lot
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>>117573346 Pretty sure shadow is the only one that can match him equally at full speed.
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>>117573338 >If not, it doesn't exist. None of it exists. It's all fiction. But by that logic, Goku can't blow up a planet because he never tried. See? It's a stupid argument.
>>117573415 >Welcome to vs debating. This is your counter argument? Watch the Death Battle again for Master Mogul's explanation on Sonic's "I can't permanently lose rule". And then apply that to his title "Fastest Thing Alive". The only way for Flash to be faster is if Sonic is dead.
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>>117573482 Then why make Sonic lose even more as opposed to, not?
Oh but they don't care about score? They sure do when it's a favorite character such as Luffy who has yet to be in an episode because all of his common match ups rape his ass.
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>>117573505 Believe what you want doesn't change my view after how they acted in those threads.
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>>117573524 Archie Sonic didn’t really have anybody more thematic than Wally.
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>>117573474 Right, because it can;t be that fans were simply wrong about who would win the fight, clearly it's a conspiracy. Or are you saying they should fudge the results so a fandom does't get their feelings hurt?
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>>117573524 It is not so much that rather than every Luffy match that is thematic is either Luffy stomping (reed without prep, marvel, etc etc) or him getting stomped (Plasticman and Naruto).
So they are probably waiting till One Piece ends (HAH!) to see where he ends up at the end then just put him against whoever is closest to him even if it is still a stomp.
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>>117573541 Fair enough, it can get hard to spot the salty faggots in these threads sometimes, they're getting better at hiding.
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>>117573519 >I should be able to say anything I want without evidence and people should still think I'm right why are you so fixated on this title shit like it actually means anything? The narrative rules of a universe DO NOT apply the second someone not from that universe gets involved.
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>>117573562 >Or are you saying they should fudge the results so a fandom does't get their feelings hurt? They do to some verse, and they chose not to, to others.
Sonic is the later.
DC has yet to lose to a non Marvel character. Meanwhile Marvel already lost to anime and videogame characters, Carol being a prime example because at the time, hating on Ms. Marvel was the hip thing to do.
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>>117573580 >stomping lol. the latest match up was an even bigger stomp than Luffy vs Naruto. And they went ahead with it.
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>>117573610 >why are you so fixated on this title shit like it actually means anything? That's how fiction works. I didn't write it. "Word of god" at Sega says so.
>The narrative rules of a universe DO NOT apply the second someone not from that universe gets involved. Great stuff. But you gotta prove that explanation word for word, else it's all just headcanon. But if your logic WAS true, then that means Flash wouldn't be the FASTEST MAN outside his universe. Hmm... you killed your own argument.
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>>117573667 >That's how fiction works. It's not how vs debating works.
>Hmm... you killed your own argument. Wow, so you're so pissed and desperate you're trying to equate logic with a claim regarding a character's abilities.
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>>117563099 If sonic couldn't wish away flash then can't wish for something to erase flash?
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>>117574090 Flash can ans had transformed energies that didn't exist in his universe before, and with time travel he can just hop back to before Sonic powers up and kill him. He could jump back to Sonic's first issue and kill him then, when he had no added powers and no feats.
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>>117574252 >What is speed? Anonymous
>>117574392 The rate at which someone or something is able to move or operate.
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>>117574467 No, it’s still around
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>>117574364 Early Archie is AoStH-tier. Flash can't counter that much toonforce.
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>>117574364 But sonic can time travel as well. Couldn't he follow flash and continue the fight.
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>>117574364 Early Archie is AoStH-tier. Flash can't counter that much toonforce.
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>>117574364 Then since sonic couldn't stop him, he could have wish away his past without it affecting him. That way, when flash goes back in time, all he sees is a black voice
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>>117574686 When has he done that? I remember he rewinded time a few seconds once but that’s it
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>>117573580 Naruto doesnt exist.
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>>117573650 No. He(naruto) doesnt exist
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>>117575046 first sonicfag "debucked "vid
still to slow
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>>117575046 >Sonic, Shadow and Silver are omnipresent What?
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>>117577112 no matter where you go you'll find fanart of them
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>>117574753 How? His past is changed, that means the future where he has that power never existed.
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>>117574686 Even if Sonic can do that, what good does it do? If Flash goes back in time 50 years, and Sonic goes to follow him an attosecond later, Flash is still 50 years and 1 attosecond ahead of him. How does Sonic know when and where to go? Flash can run back along Sonic's timeline and kill his great grandparents, so there never was a Sonic to begin with.
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>>117577952 Also, how does Sonic know Flash time traveled? It's not like Flash is going to stop and explain what he's about to do. To Sonic, Flash would just vanish. If I were to go back in time 1 year, wait 20 minutes, then shoot someone, they don't die in the future 20 minutes after I left, they died a year ago, they were already dead in the present when I went back to kill them. If Flash changes Sonic's past, those changes will always have been how Sonic's world had been. There is no, "oh no, he's stealing the chaos emeralds in the past, so my powers are fading now!" No, instead Sonic would never have had those powers at all, from his perspective this is how his life always was, he would never know better.
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>>117573009 None of that will save him from the speed steal.
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>>117575046 >Sonic avatar Every time.
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>>117578156 Popeye can beat Flash by eating spinach, becoming faster than him, and speed stealing too.
It's all possible because of his insane toonforce. Same applies to Sonic, whose toonforce is that he is the fastest thing alive even against anyone with bigger feats like Quickman.
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>>117578587 Here you are still obsessed with titles.
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>>117578587 Quick Man has no feats. He is lightspeed on a good day, furthermore, there is nothing indicating Sonic automatically becomes faster than anybody he meets, toon force or not
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>>117578156 How can you speed steal a source that has unlimited power?
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>>117578587 >whose toonforce is that he is the fastest thing alive Here's the problem with that. Archie Sonic's writers have the authority to enforce that in that comic, no matter how fast something is that they write in, they can make Sonic faster. But they have NO authority to say Sonic is faster than things they have no authority over. Such as, characters from other franchises that have never been in the Archie comics. They can label him the fastest thing in his universe, but they can't say he's faster than everything in other fictions. That's why his title as the fastest means absolutely nothing when he's put up against characters not from his world. Because the Archie writers have no say in the matter anymore, because it's not their character.
Did that sink in, or should I use smaller words?
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>>117578640 It would make you unlimited in turn as well. Any portion of infinity is also infinity. But, Flash also has infinite speed, he's faster than instant.
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>>117578623 You forgot Archie Quickman and other robot masters are composites across the series. Including Quickman.exe who is faster than Megaman.exe, who can cross the entire universe in seconds.
Basically, Archie Quickman is lightspeed+++.
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>>117578705 >They can label him the fastest thing in his universe, but they can't say he's faster than everything in other fictions. No argument. It's all fiction on "my character is stronger than X". And the only way to judge that is to compare word of god to the table. Flash isn't the fastest outside of DC. Cope harder. And get a better title.
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>>117578726 Then speed stealing doesn't work if there's nowhere to put the extra speed, reduce off an infinite opponent, or become faster than infinite speed opponent.
So speed steal doesn't work. Got it.
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>>117578788 >And the only way to judge that is to compare word of god to the table Too bad the word of god for Sonic is not the word of god for Flash. Why is this so hard for you to understand?
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>>117578813 There is a place, Wally
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>>117578813 It's basically irrelevant, since both are infinite. What matters is what they can do with their power, and Flash has answers to everything Sonic can do, and them some. Sonic? Not so much. He wasn't beat on speed, he was beat on esoterics.
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>>117578587 >>117578705 >>117578788 >>117578853 >Booster vs Cable >Flash vs Sonic It's going to be hilarious watching all the "But Saitama always wins! That's the joke!" freakouts when OPM gets killed. How many times do they have to do it before people clue in?
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>>117578886 And if DB wasn't being biased, Sonic would be beaten on speed as well. "Look at this narration box!" they ought to feel ashamed. This has set an awful precedent.
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>>117578995 >And if DB wasn't being biased They weren't. Sonic has infinite speed that can't be measured...AND SO DOES WALLY. Sonic is not faster than he is.
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Let's play a game /dbg/>Dragonball >OPM >The Death Battle Prediction Blog (that kicked him out)
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>>117578975 They just don't know how vs comparisons work. If they'd just listen when it's explained to them there'd be no problem, but their fanboy butthurt won't allow it.
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>>117579029 >Infinite speed that can't be measured Except it can. Sonic has a hard limit on his speed as per the "limit" feat. Super Sonic is a 1K multiplier. Take that and add three zeros. There you go.
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>>117579045 >[Insert any media that would shit on DC's power levels here] Anonymous
>>117579045 Why did you make a list of things that make Otto laugh?
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>>117579045 Steven Universe
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>>117579085 >file not found Anonymous
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>>117579085 n-n-no, but DC's universe is a million kajillion times bigger than ours! Nothing can beat it!
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>>117579065 >Except it can. If that's true, then Wally is faster than Sonic, because he's faster than instant. No measurable velocity is faster than instant.
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>>117563099 >caring about death battle What is this, 2010? Even normies don't care.
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>>117579045 I mean, the head guy is the blog is a giant faggot that bans people from everything he's in charge of just for speaking to Otto
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>>117579085 99% of the time when someone tries to "shit on" DC power levels, they get it wrong.
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>>117579119 Your database doesn't contain the Marvel universe? That's an odd thing to exclude.
>>117579141 I don't doubt that anyone involved in powerlevel faggotry is a massive faggot, but let's be fair here, anyone even loosely associated with Otto should probably be banned from most public forums.
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>>117574824 Kill yourself.
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>>117563099 So why couldn't Ultra Sonic just wish Wally away?
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>>117579167 Something something speed force asspull.
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>>117579159 It switches around a lot tbf.
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>>117579045 >Not listing democrats It's like you aren't even trying.
>>117579094 It's common on the internet to list "things you dislike" as "things that trigger you."
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>>117579085 >>117574392 "Golly how may universes did ya say the DC multiverse had?"
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>>117579184 It's odd that /co/ doesn't lose its shit at you more often, considering how flooded with asskissing libtards it is.
Granted, you're a faggot for bringing up politics out of the blue in the first place.
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>>117579167 Doesn't work on Wally, especially a Wally with Quantum Mechanics feats.
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>>117579184 Otto, I like you, but do you have to bring up politics every chance you get?
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>>117579167 Flash has demonstrated the ability to transform energies that are alien to his universe, there's no reason to assume Chaos Control is any different. Also, he can just travel through time to avoid it, and he's outran conceptual-level effects and beings before. Ultra Sonic has nothing Wally can't handle.
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>>117579167 Their explanation was that chaos control was a "physical reality warping" or something and he could potentially vibrate through the effect before he got thanos'd or something? Then he ran away to when ultra wasn't on
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>>117579180 They explained it in the video, with scans to prove their claims. Stop being butthurt and pay attention, and maybe you wouldn't get so mad.
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>>117579243 I did watch it, all I saw was "speedforce does whatever the plot needs it to do."
Also another time travel ending is really lazy.
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>>117579277 >all I saw was "speedforce does whatever the plot needs it to do." Then you weren't paying attention. Get over your butthurt, and try again. You can do it, I believe in you.
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>>117579153 >Can't even get right that the Monarch of Pointland is singular and that being singular is an important part of his characterization and theme. All I ever wanted from the vsbw crowd was for them to actually read/watch what they pretend to be knowledgeable about.
>>117579209 I've gotten death threats. That's about as hard as /co/mblr will go.
>>117579214 It's a brief joke. Pop your xanax and chill.
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>>117579153 >>117579310 Why is his vsbw portrait a bunch of dots instead of a single dot?
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>>117579277 It’s a valid strategy.
>>117579310 I still don’t get how even with that wank, would that Monarch be a threat,
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>>117579337 Because they're stupid.
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>>117579310 >I've gotten death threats CapeworldComics !118LTnv3DE
>>117579338 He wouldn't. That's the point. When I give my middle school class Flatland to read they're able to immediately grasp that the Monarch of Pointland is a loser lower than any other character in the book. They understand that he's the man in Plato's cave completely ignorant of the world outside himself and his mind.
Numbers/Not-Numbers/VSBW/ reads on a sub-middle school level, assuming they bothered to actually read at all.
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Couldn't Ultra Sonic/Alien X just chase Hal/Wally through time to save themselves?
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>>117579451 I don’t think either of those guys have shown ever time travelled
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>>117579451 Closest Archie ever came to time travel was rewinding the Genesis Wave (not the SGW, this was an earlier one using 1 chaos emerald). He's an absolute novice when it comes to time travel and wouldn't be able to directly chase after Wally or know what Wally was doing.
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>>117579427 No wonder they hate you. You pretty much crushed their balls.
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>>117579762 Also, Wally can control where people time travel to like with the Turtle
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>>117579277 They should just put em against another broken time traveler to poke fun at it
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>>117579065 Super Sonic multiplies infinity time one thousand. Either way, it's still infinite.
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>>117579863 I'm waiting for Bill and Ted vs Doc and Marty.
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>>117579277 Speed force is the "fuck you I'm faster than magic" asspull. Speed solves everything I suppose.
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>>117575046 This better be good seethe. Archie seeth just seems... inadequate compared to ben10
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>>117579167 Wally can just come back from being deleted.
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>>117575046 >the brainlet 5d 6d logic Holy fuck.
>time is a spacial dimension wronk
>chaos is a 'higher' dimension which mades it 5d >there's stuff higher which makes it 6 This is good cope but they're pretty dull to listen to unfortunately.
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>>117580067 >Time is a spatial dimension >But moving through it counts as movement through the same dimension Yes, I know DC calls hypertime and the speed force the 4th dimension, but it has as much to do with the real "4th dimension" as magic imps and bowler hats have to do with the real "5th dimension." Realistically, all the ways you can move through the speed force and hypertime would constitute an infinity of spatial dimensions.
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>>117579891 Bill and Ted do it faster, Marty and Doc gotta drive
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>>117571515 >LE VS Superboy Prime >Climax is them nearly killing Wiz and Boomstick Anonymous
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>>117581238 TBWL, unfortunately. Dude was able to able to counter the Phantom a Stranger with his magic. Not the DM version, the Main Earth one. Also apparently dark matter beings can’t really be hurt by positive matter ones, at leash not until they adjust to the universe
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No shit Wally is DC and they ate DC shills
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>>117581585 Plus Wally was legitimately faster
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>>117581238 Unrelated question. What would BWL sound like? Joker or Batman? I know he can sound like Bruce but not sure what his default would be
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>>117563099 One of the few times they were objectively right though
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>>117581712 Kevin Conroy doing a Hamill Joker impression.
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Superman > Goku is correct
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I just want to watch Eel mock Alucard in as slightly-off palette doppleganger, like turning his buttcheeks or toes into retarded versions of Alucard's familiars.
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>>117582267 I know it might be hard to see the keyboard through your tears, but its "faggot" not "flaggot."
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>>117582426 >Ex villains that work for the good guys now and are smartasses with body horror powers You know, the theme isn't THAT much of a stretch.
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>>117582639 I just feel Plas relies a bit too much on scaling for my taste
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>>117581862 >Superman > Goku is correct Yes
>so was Kirby > Buu and Mario > Game Sonic No
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>>117582688 He does, mostly because he hasn't had much work outside of team books. Even pre-crisis he was a team player on the Freedom Fighters.
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>>117582780 They ripped off Game Sonic so hard. I don't get why Game Sonic can't be light speed based on narration while Archie Sonic can have incalculable speed based on narration.
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>>117582822 One, Ben likes Archie Sonic, two, Game Sonic usually needs shoes for lightspeed
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>>117582822 >I don't get why Game Sonic can't be light speed based on narration Because he's demonstrably not. When narration and events disagree, events wins. That's how vs comparisons work.
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>>117582780 >Kirby>Buu Almost nothing Buu has can kill Kirby
Nothing Kirby has can kill Buu
The only thing Buu has that can kill Kirby is the candy beam
Kirby eats the candy beam, and then he can use it
The candy beam can kill Buu
Thus, Kirby wins.
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>>117582858 >Events win They could have easily calculate how fast Sonic was going by taking the resulting explosion that happened when he and Knuckles collided. They didn't. In that case, they went with narration over events.
>>117582843 I think a lot of people look at game Sonic's record and drew the wrong conclusion for it. In my brief dalliance with the Archie Sonic fandom, I learned one thing above all else--there is considerable bad blood between Archie fans and Game fans. I don't even mean like "Amy vs Sally," that's the tip of the iceberg.
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>>117582894 That’s retarded, Buu stomps and blitz
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>>117583028 Z has no speed feats
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>>117581862 >Superman > Goku is correct No
so was Kirby > Buu and Mario > Game Sonic
Yes but switch Buu and Mario with Kirby
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>>117583036 And yet he still stomps and blitz kirby
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>>117583028 Kirby is also FTL though, and Buu isn't strong enough to take Kirby physically.
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>>117583051 >No Yes. Goku will absolutely never achieve the kind of power needed to oppose Superman.
1. Superman has more experience in combat, he's a better fighter
2. Superman learned Flash's vibration phasing, Goku can;t even tough him unless he allows it
3. Superman knows a Kryptonian martial art that's the same as Ultra Instinct, he even taught it to Lois Lane.
4. Supeman has multiple examples of literal infinite power.
5. The only thing that gets Goku even close is the universe shockwave thing vs Beerus, and that feat is trash anyone with eyes and common sense knows is bullshit.
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>>117583114 Kirbys best physical feat is cracking popstar in half which is smaller than the Earth which buu can bust. Kirby gets his shit pushed in by anyone above star level
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>>117583157 >which buu can bust Not with his bare hands he can't. And any energy attacks he tries, Kirby will eat and gain power from.
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>>117583157 Popstar is the same size as the frozen Earth in Kirby
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>>117583149 >Y-[headcanon] No.
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>>117583176 >Not with his bare hands he can't. He can
>And any energy attacks he tries, Kirby will eat and gain power from. Not how it works, he doesn’t gain any power, he can either reflect it back or eat and shit it out in his stomach dimension or whatever. He won’t gain any power unless he eats the enemy himself
>>117583179 It isn’t
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>>117563099 Get destroyed. -Diseased powerscale hog "Above Omnipotence/Omnipotent Enerjak defeater" "12D-Infinite D" Archie Sonic wank is finally dead, rekt, & defeated. 2020 is just keeps being full of surprises. Marvel/DC comics has just as much op broken trash as Archie Sonic Comics and then some, welcome to the big leagues of inconsistent multiple writers /jank power scale cancer shenanigans, hedgehog chumps.
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>>117563111 This... also stop watching it
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Never mind. This is way worse than when Ben 10 lost. At least those guys came up with different versions of Ben that they believe could have won.
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>>117583194 Sorry, but all of that is actual canon. Get over it.
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>>117583255 >He can Prove it. Show me Buu destroying a planet with a punch.
>Not how it works Exactly how it works. Kirby eats the attack, then he can use the attack. And if Buu tries to use a chunk of himself to absorb Kirby, Kirby can eat the chunk and be everything Buu is.
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>>117583372 I don’t know why those other Bens would do better. OV Ben 10K’s fusions never worked better than base and Ultimate Ben sucks in general. Ascalon, Skurd, Omnikix, Omni-Enhancements, no game changers
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>>117582780 Kirby only got more feats since that fight.
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>>117583157 Psssh, that shit's old.
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>>117583416 I don't think they would do better. My point is the Benfags at least had some excuse ready.
Archie fags are just screaming
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>>117583381 >Sorry Apology accepted. Now kneel
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>>117563099 https://youtu.be/KZjOr_XxGw8 Heh...Flash fans, this death battle already has been debunked (100% REAL NOT FAKE!!! SONIC SEZ)
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Guys. Please. Death Battle is literal FANFICTION. Like holy shit guys. Their word aren't any better than you fucks that are posting here right now. Stop sperging. Especially you DCfucks. Stop.
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>>117571515 Interesting. Here is mine.
>Chakravartin vs. God (One Punch Man) >Shodan vs. Mother Brain >Mama Scarface vs. Indominus Rex >King Ghidorah vs. Fing Fang Foom >Gru vs. Megamind >Giygas vs. Asriel Dreemur >Sex Bob-Bomb vs. Bunk Bed Junction >Leatherface vs. Piggsy >Meat Katie (House of the Dead) vs. The Executioner (Resident Evil) >Abeloth vs. Morgoth >The Long One vs. The Thing >Bill and Ted vs. Tenacious D >Patrick Bateman vs. Dexter Morgan >Amy Rose vs. Harley Quinn >George (Rampage) vs. King Kong Anonymous
>>117583408 >Prove it. Show me Buu destroying a planet with a punch. Ki increases attack potency. If he can create a planet busting ball that’s his ap too
> Kirby eats the attack, then he can use the attack. Yeah by reflecting it back at the enemy retard, literally what I just said
> And if Buu tries to use a chunk of himself to absorb Kirby, Kirby can eat the chunk and be everything Buu is. No, kirby will lose and get absorbed. Not that he needs to get absorbed anyway, Buu will just kill him
>>117583455 >tiny ass asteroid that’s not even bigger than a UFO Looks like the old is better than the new
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>>117583546 >>tiny ass asteroid that’s not even bigger than a UFO That's not the feat. It's how many planets it busts on the way there, and the fact that it travels 9999 lightyears.
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>>117583578 So even an asteroid can beat kirby?
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>>117571515 Bobobo and Uncle Grandpa would just end up being the hosts of their own death battle at the end then go out for snacks and/or harass their supporting casts together.
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That blue rat got slammed with the Flash KAPOW punch.
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>>117583920 The Grand Slam...
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>>117583546 >Ki increases attack potency. If he can create a planet busting ball that’s his ap too Show him actually doing it. Because I can show you that he can't.
>literally what I just said Good for you, dingus. The issue is you acted like I was trying to say anything different.
>No, kirby will lose and get absorbed. Nope, he eats the Buu chunk. That's literally what Kirby does.
>Buu will just kill him He's literally incapable of doing so.
>>117581862 Hats off to you sir, your post worked.
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>>117583511 >Goku avatar Typical.
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>>117579863 >they tease another dumb time travel ending with whoever LE is fighting heading back to kill Caliborn >English is Already There waiting and kills them instead Would be pretty kino
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>>117578735 >who can cross the entire universe in seconds. This feat is miscalculated on like 3 separate factors.
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>>117582426 I think this one is a genuine stalemate.
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>>117584964 >>117582426 It depends. Could Alucard SUCC him at all and get familiar powers? Otherwise yeah they can't kill each other unless Alucard is satisfied with being killed by Plasticman.
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>>117584986 I don't think Plas has blood. I think biting him would be like biting a tire.
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>>117584986 He's solid plastic. No organs or circulatory system. It's why he has perfect mental defenses: no brain.
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>>117583149 superman isnt a better fighter, you obviously dont read superman.
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why put him up against deadpool, it's not even a competition he'd win
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>>117585596 They said it in the episode. They wanted to kill Deadpool
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>>117583530 >Patrick Batemen vs Dexter Morgan Anyone read the books? The show/films are very different to their literature counterparts. Morgan in his book series dealt with the supernatural, if I recall, with a cult called the Coven. Season one of Dexter only covered the first book with some changes here and there. Patrick Batemen makes appearances in other books by the author where he is like a possessive ghost or some shit. I don't remember but it was comparable to something you see from Stephen King's writings.
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>>117565693 lets not pretend there are millions of kryptonians running around.
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>>117572803 >Fastest Thing Alive means nothing when its just a fucking song. Sonic hasnt gone to the lengths as wally, not even close.
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>>117563099 >Archie Sonic finally dethroned PogChamp.
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>>117563099 Seethe more furry, maybe you'll finally find the edge and turn into a black chipmunk
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>>117586024 Flash = Based Pog, Archie Sonic = Cringe Poggers.
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>>117571515 What's the worst thing that Bully kid has done because Dennis the Menace was busting Lions out of the zoo and making rockets
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>>117585875 Quick Google and wow. Wikipedia gives some interesting info.
Patrick Bateman
>Bateman appeared in Ellis's 2005 novel Lunar Park, in which the fictionalised Bret Easton Ellis confesses that writing American Psycho felt like channeling the words of a violent spirit rather than writing anything himself. This ghost—Bateman—haunts Ellis's home. A character also comes to Ellis's Halloween party dressed as Patrick Bateman, and a copycat killer is seemingly patterning himself on Bateman. Toward the novel's end, Ellis writes the 'last' Bateman story as a way of confronting and controlling the character, as well as the issues Ellis created Bateman as a means of countering. Bateman, for all intents and purposes, dies in a fire on a boat dock. Dexter Morgan
>In Dexter in the Dark, the third novel of the series, third-person narrative reveals through an entity referred to as "IT" that the Dark Passenger is an independent agent inhabiting Dexter, rather than a deviant psychological construction. Later, Dexter realizes the Dark Passenger is related to Moloch, a Middle Eastern deity worshiped in Biblical times. The Dark Passenger is one of Moloch's many offspring; Moloch had many children (formed through human sacrifice), and learned to share its knowledge with them. Eventually, there were too many, and Moloch killed the majority; however, some of them escaped into the world. In the novel, Dexter learns of the Dark Passenger's true nature when it briefly "leaves" him, frightening him into researching possible reasons for its existence. Thank God these were never adapted onto the screen. Holy shit. No one the Dexter series veered away from the books which are even filled with more bullshit, a lot of it being edgy shock value.
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>>117582894 Kirby can't eat lightning-like beams. It's almost like asking videogame kirby to eat active flames of lava or a constant stream of fire when clearly it's still attached to the enemy.
And Kirby can't eat "bosses" whole before KOing them first.
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>>117585328 He has more experience in much more varied circumstances than Goku ever will. Goku trained in like 2 styles, Superman knows 4, or 5 depending on how you count it. He is a better fighter than Goku.
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>>117586784 >Kirby can't eat [blank] No such thing.
>Kirby can't eat bosses When did I suggest he would?
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>>117583149 >Goku will absolutely never achieve the kind of power needed to oppose Superman. Goku's a shonen anime character. It's gonna end up completely in his script.
1. Goku only fights characters who a stronger to become stronger in battle.
2. He struggles a bit with every villain.
3. He pulls out a new asspull transformation that = or > the villain's powerlevel.
4. Win.
He's probably gonna pull out a Krypton Ultra Instinct mode on Superman if they fight long enough. Knowing that Goku could also run away is one of his tactics.
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>>117585985 Then Flash's title means nothing because it can be dismissed from the fact that Sonic is a toon and gets faster being next to beings that were faster that him.
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>>117586829 >Goku's a shonen anime character. It's gonna end up completely in his script. If you believe Goku will ever achieve infinite power, you don't know anything about the character.
>but Superman doesn't have- For the purposes of a vs debate, he does. He has dozens of examples of universal/infinite power of various types. Hey, remember that time he lifted the Book of Limbo that had infinite pages? Remember how his hands also didn't shatter under the effect of the gravity of that infinite mass, making it both a strength and durability feat? Did you know that means if Superman ever fought Goku seriously, he could explode that retarded monkey with one finger? "If they fight long enough" won't happen, Goku's not powerful enough.
>but Ultraman Did not read to the end of the book, he just got to the part about Mandrakk and stopped. Had he kept going, he might have seen how he himself was going to help stop him.
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>>117586872 Good thing no one gives a shit about Flash's title and have only been arguing his feats.
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>>117586813 He can't eat lasers, lightning, and constant streams of fire or lava. In fact, Kirby can't eat most of the stuff in his own environment or else it would clog his mouth or he'd give up. He can't even eat a gordo which is invincible to everything he has.
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>>117586915 You're doing better, but you're not quite there. Strong wind can affect the candy beam, we see it when Evil Buu blows it back at Fat Buu. Know what else makes a strong wind? Kirby, when he eats stuff. It would be pulled into his mouth.
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>>117586900 >If you believe Goku will ever achieve infinite He already did.
>but Superman doesn't have- who are you quoting?
>but Ultraman irrelevant. Are you a schizo?
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>>117586935 >It would be pulled into his mouth. And he still couldn't eat the beam. Kirby can't eat beams, lasers, and lava. Prove he could.
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>>117586951 >He already did. He didn't
>who are you quoting? I find it makes things faster if I preempt the more stupid and predictable arguments, get it out of the way.
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>>117586990 You're fixated on gameplay for some reason, that's not the only source they used.
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>>117586999 >He didn't He did.
>I preempt the more stupid and predictable arguments Ah, you're retarded. Got it.
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>>117587012 Again, show proof if Kirby could do that.
Anime Kirby is weaker than gameplay Kirby.
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>>117587014 >He did. He did not, and never will.
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>>117586990 >>117587012 >>117587035 Not that guy but,
>Actually using simple gameplay interactions as limit feats Cringe & yikes.
Where's my based Cutscene/QTE chads at.
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>>117587196 >cutscene/QTE >4th wall breaking health bar joke Not a feat, just a gag. Else you'll have morons thinking toonforce = feats. Any character can do anything in a QTE outside gameplay boundaries.
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>>117587251 You're showing your inexperience. Cutscenes trump gameplay. Know why? Because gameplay are things that MIGHT happen, it's not the same every time. Cutscenes are things that MUST happen, they're always the same, making them more canonical. Kratos in GoW 2 needing more than one hit to kill a human: Gameplay
Kratos in GoW 2 being strong & tough enough to throw the Colossus of Rhodes (roughly the size and weight of Lady Liberty) after it tries to stomp on him: Cutscene.
One of those is a valid feat, the other is not.
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>>117587196 We using cutscene feats now?
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>>117587251 Are you actually braindead? So the healthbar moving for half a second completely erases the fact that Kirby ate an entire laser with ease? Nothing even remotely compares to Kid goku breaking a manga page to rebound a rock in that Boss battle, he didn't slap the queen with the health bar or anything
So in your twisted logic, Kirby never defeated Queen Sectonia? You're cracked, lawl.
>>117587296 Fat Buu is fast enough to do an after image rapid punch trick like that, so that counts I guess? Not really a gag. Also that's not a cutscene.
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>>117587294 >Cutscenes trump gameplay. Stopped reading right there.
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>>117587296 I get what you're going for, but that's not a great example. It's well established thew Buu can remove and control pieces of himself, using the pieces as fists to punch someone is funny, but not outside his established abilities.
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>>117587340 That's why you will always suck at vs debates.
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>>117587294 Actual logic here.
>>117587340 Cutscenes are what the author truly believes the character is fully capable of and animate their power scale accordingly. Ex. Megaman dying in one hit ohko to spikes is just to raise difficulty.
Cutscenes >>>>> Gameplay mechanics when harboring/obtaining your feats.
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>>117587379 No. But that's why I always get tons of (you)s baiting morons into vs debates.
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Ahh. See? You still gave me a you. You are a moron.
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>>117587409 >I was merely pretending to be braindead tier dumb. Anonymous
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>>117587409 So you're not even trying to hide it then, okay.
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The only good thing about death battle is that it gets all of the power levels fags in one fucking thread.
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>>117587502 If you understood vs debating rather than stumble into it like a drunk mule, it might not bother you so much.
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>>117586872 the title flash means nothing it what he can do where even with toon powers, sonic doesnt display that toon power in archie comics. He is a furry not a toon. Sonic hasnt achieved anything close to what the flash did. Sorry sonic lost. The flash can steal sonic's speed. The Flash IS speed. That beats out any toon factor.
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>>117579119 I may have spent a bit too much time on the vs battles wiki, but I think the SCP Foundation, SMTverse, and Umineko of all things could contend.
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>>117587388 >>117587294 Remember when they used the Seismic Toss animation as a feat for Machamp.
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>>117572803 Also isn't that game sonic and not archie?
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>>117586872 And yet you still haven’t proved that happens
>BUT MUH QUICKMAN Post a page of him going faster than Archie Sonic ever has before the crossover
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>>117586795 He isn’t. If both were just regular humans without the powers Goku would stomp him all the time since he’s the better fighter.
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>>117563099 Does this means we will get Sonic threads with Wally saying "how pathetic"?
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>>117587196 >has to use a hyperfruit to eat lasers and things bigger than him You just proved his point
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>>117588114 Doesn't seem like much of a stretch considering happiny can do this.
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>>117588760 We’re already getting a Sonic threads and there’s 0 wallyfags that show up itt.
I guess actual fans of wally didnt give a fuck.
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>>117572959 >>Sonicfags worse than Benfags Definitely on 4chan at least. Which is probably where spurned Archiefags are more common.
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>>117584141 >Because I can show you that he can't. You can’t
> Good for you, dingus. The issue is you acted like I was trying to say anything different. Then why restate what I said? That’s stupid and a waste of time
>Nope, he eats the Buu chunk. That's literally what Kirby does. That wouldn’t give kirby buus power if he just eats a chunk. And buus absorption would overpower him
> He's literally incapable of doing so Nope, Kirbys barely planet level. Buu just farts on him and he dies. Hell even Krillin can dab on him
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>>117588760 Probably not. The breakdown the shitposters were anticipating never happened. Even the video itself has a very positive ratio. Which is good, because fuck those shitposters. Speculating assholes wanted us banished to /trash/. Couldn't even manage to shit things up worse than the Owl House lesbians.
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>>117588771 Actual feat, that's not Machamp though.
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>>117588760 >>117588807 >>117588919 should Wally say "how pathetic" or "how weak"?
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>>117588760 No. This isnt Ben Vs Hal where many people gave a shit about Ben losing. Only a few people cared about Sonic actually losing and most likely fucked off already. The one attempt at Wallyposting just gets shrugged off from what I have seen.
It is sorta funny how this match's like ratio is very high despite everyones assumption. Meanwhile that other Flash VS Sonic joke match had a way larger dislike ratio
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>>117590380 Flash fans, man.
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>>117590390 I think it is just DC fans rather than Flash fans specifically. Any match where a DC character loses has a sizable dislike ratio
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>>117571515 Fight you want to see
>Giorno vs Joker >Hellboy vs Alucard >Billy Butcher vs Stain >Postal Dude vs Not Important >Gorr vs Goku Black >Master Xehanort vs. Darth Sidious >RoboCop vs Judge Dredd >Cole MacGrath VS Alex Mercer >S?suke Aizen vs. Madara Uchiha >Adam Jensen vs Motoko Kusanagi >Star Butterfly vs Steven Universe >Noel Vermillion vs Aigis >Ruby Rose VS Maka Chan >Izuku Midoriya vs Gon Freecss >Hiccup and Toothless vs Hiro and Baymax >Atrocitus vs Red Hulk >Little Mac vs Ippo >Han Solo vs Captain Kirk >Raiden VS 2B >Magneto vs Accelerator >Kazuma Kiryu vs Kingpin >Samurai Jack vs Guts >Gordon Freeman vs Isaac Clarke >Takuto Maruki VS Enrico Pucci >Pyro vs Mei >Demoman vs Junkrat >Popeye vs Saitama >Tohru Adachi vs Yoshikage Kira >Senator Armstrong vs Funny Valentine >Kraven vs Predator Anonymous
>>117590444 Remind me again what the most disliked Death Battles are?
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>>117590751 In order of release
only if it hit below 65% Goku VS Superman
Goku VS Superman 2
Tracer VS Scout
Lara Croft VS Nathan Drake
Ben 10 VS Green Lantern
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>>117590751 1. Ben vs Hal (56%)
2. Goku vs Superman 2 (58%)
3. Goku vs Superman 1 (61%)
4. Lara vs Nathan (64%)
5. Scout vs Tracer (69%)
5.
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>>117590882 >>117590910 Why did I read Scout vs Tracer as 64%?
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>>117590882 >>117590910 >>117590934 Huh, guess a lot of peeps like Uncharted
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>>117590998 It was that and them downplay Nathan and wanking Lara a bit
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>>117590998 It is actually the most baffling of the least liked videos to me. I think a lot of it has to do with the weak kill move. For all Ben wants to bitch about explosions and boring endings, it is probably more satisfying to a lot of people. Then again, as a film kid he wanted to remove the "Fight" announcement at the start of every animation so he has shit taste. He has fucking clue what brings the hype.
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Bet this fight happens eventually since Swan and the rest of the DBC Team want to do it.
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>>117591099 I like Scooby but Courage has that shriek thing. Isn’t there actually a crossover movie coming out in 2021?
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>>117587251 I'm not here to back ether side of the argument, but generally cutscene feats are more to go on that gameplay ones. Look at Vincent in Dirge of Cerberus.
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>>117591144 I don't beleive so, Scooby probalby has done some crazy stuff but as Swan/Ben pointed out, Scooby really hasn't been overly analysed in terms of VS. I know Mystery Incorprated gets pretty crazy with this guy:
https://scoobydoo.fandom.com/wiki/Evil_Entity But based on intital opinions i do think Courage probalby wins.
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>>117591099 Scooby really is one half of the components required to pull off most his achievements. Courage is a one man show most of the time, and deals with real deal supernatural stuff way more frequently.
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>>117591262 I read that page, the entity was unable to hurt them because friendship and had to be sealed away so I don’t think that’s really applicable
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>>117593071 Aside from Flash vs Sonic Q&A, what else do they talk about? Do they mention the Amazon shill episode?
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>>117593120 they shill it a bit
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>>117593120 5 mins of shilling at the start, then they get right to it.
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So where do you suggest matches for this thing anyway?
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>>117593205 I think there’s a form
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>>117593152 >>117593182 Do they ever ask the audience if they wanted to see characters from The Boys in an official DB?
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>>117593293 No, though they might have made a post on twitter about it
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>>117593336 Link please if true?
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>>117593457 if I can find it I'll post it
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>>117593071 >>117593869 TL:DW for QnA - Sonic has been wanked by fans to bullshit levels, Flash actually is at bullshit levels. Sonic just ain't that powerful. Oh and speedforce rapes chaos force tier wise so hard it's a joke.
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>>117593071 >Pointing out Embodiment of Chaos is just poorly understood wank Based. Ben’s got a lot of Archie knowledge
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>>117588760 No because no one cares about Wally.
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>>117589137 That's a baby pokemon.
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>>117589182 >Wally West HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>117594186 To bad Speed Force hacks only work on people who uses the speedforce to move.
Anonymous
>>117595064 False. Works on Superman.
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>>117595091 Everyone in the DC are connect to the Speed force anon, it's what causes movement in their reality, every character technically use it and if they try hard enough can access it.
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I thought Wally suicided due to timeline shit breaking up him and his woman. How’s he dunking on anyone?
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>>117595164 Nah, everything worked out
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>>117595164 Because Death Battle is owned by Warner
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>>117595144 Yes but that doesn't mean they DO use it, silly. Based on that I could say that the Chaos Force only affects reality from a sonic connected universe and any regular human from DC would be immune to the Chaos Force.
But I won't, because that's stupid. You need to stop being stupid in reverse, anon.
This is a genuine question. Honest. I'm not trying to insult you, but do you actually have a disability or something? Cause what you've said is really, really dumb.
Anonymous
>>117595144 Even if that were true, which it's not, the SF isn't just 'hax'.
Anonymous
>>117595222 False equivalent, Chaos warps reality while Speed force steals speed from people with speed force, that's the whole reason Zoloman was a threat to Wally cause he's not tied to the speed force.
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>>117595290 No, it was because Zolomon doesn’t actually use kinetic energy because he’s not actually moving
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>>117595290 >while Speed force steals speed from people with speed force Again, if they don't use the speedforce, they aren't connected to it. It's directly stated it steals KINETIC energy, not speedforce energy. Why are you lying?
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>>117595287 I'm not debating the SF powers I'm just saying that one of the main point everyone brings up when they say Wally would is speed steal which is dumb and wouldn't work.
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>>117595364 >Wally would is speed steal which is dumb and wouldn't work. But it would and you've not stated anything that shows otherwise, where anon above has with the kinetic energy.
Pull your fucking finger out of your ass and either give proof or stop spouting hearsay.
Anonymous
>>117595314 >>117595340 kinetic energy in the DC universe is because of the speed force
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>>117595183 Well, good. Seemed like a waste to bring him back, tinker his powers, then tarnish and retire him like that.
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>>117595403 Yes, the history is different than presumably ours or many, but kinetic energy is kinetic energy
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>>117595403 No. Source: the times the SF has been removed/nullified in an area and people were able to still move.
Give your proof otherwise or fuck off.
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>>117588746 Without his powers, Superman fought crime in Gotham for about a year before the Convergence event let him and Lois escape. And with no powers, he still has more experience than Goku, and is taller, stronger, and has better reach. He'd easily win. Superman's ability to do this, for example, is not reliant on his powers.
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>>117593225 I thought it was just posting it wherever and they mainly check places like Reddit or something?
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>>117595434 You've already been shown why that is incorrect, brainlet. Hunter Zoloman doesn't move fast with kinetic energy, he literally affects time.
It's completely different and you deserve to be shot for lying and deliberately sowing discord. Fuck off.
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>>117588763 Yes, the argument relies on Kirby doing things Kirby can do...
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>>117588845 >You can’t Oh but I can. Look how Buu is striking someone against the ground with purely physical force, with every intention of hurting them, and look how the planet's not just exploding.
>but that's the lookout Yes, and it's still standing.
>but DB characters can control collaateral- Nope, the ITK proved that was fanfiction. Also, BUU wouldn't bother doing that even if it was real.
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>>117595547 Directly under that. Try again.
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>>117595570 >>117595590 That doesn't prove my point wrong, he's not using Kenetic energy to move, Kenetic energy is caused by the speed force.
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>>117571515 >>117590452 >Billy Butcher vs Stain >Marco Rossi vs Bill Rizer >Marshal Law (Marshall Law comics) vs Garou (OPM) >Rick Taylor vs Solomon Grundy >Jason Voorhees vs Pyramid Head >Jill Valentine vs Regina (Dino Crisis) >Earthworm Jim vs The Tick >Alucard (Castlevania) vs D (Vampire Hunter D) >Simon Belmont vs Sir Arthur >Vash the Stampede vs Brandon Heat (GunGrave) >Magneto vs Accelerator >Rocky Balboa vs Joe Yabuki (Ashita no Joe) >Kazuma Kiryu (Yakuza series) vs Kingpin >Jax vs Guile >Ash Williams vs Buffy >Hellboy vs Devilman >Punisher vs Judge Dredd (or Robocop) Anonymous
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>>117595647 >Kenetic You could at least try and spell.
Kinetic energy is a function of movement. Because Zolomon uses time travel to simulate super speed, he's literally just moving at regular speed, through slowed time, so if you take his speed away, you're just getting what you'd get from a regular person walking about.
How is this hard for you to grasp?
Anonymous
>>117590452 I just want to see Galactus vs Unicron.
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>>117590452 Stop shilling Joker versus Giorno. Literally why would you ever want this?
They're not alike as characters, there's no thematic bridge beyond dude persona are stands, and in such a case it'd be better to do Yuu and Josuke or something.
Giorno fucking stomps Joker. It's not a fair fight in the slightest. Joker is one of the weakest protags in the series and Giorno is the second strongest in his own.
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>>117595973 They’re both criminals
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>>117596028 Yeah actually you got me there I suppose.
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>>117595712 Doesn’t Unicron turn into a black hole that destroys the multiverse when he’s killed?
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>>117595973 >It's not a fair fight in the slightest none of the DC heavyhitter fights are fair and yet here we are. at least Giorno has a good reason for being overpowered, and Joker defeated deities anyway so it would be somewhat interesting.
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>>117571515 >Sailor Moon vs Pegasus Seiya >Nakoruru vs Talim >Muhammad Avdol vs Blaziken >Waluigi vs Big >Kain Highwind vs Lancer >Samurai Jack vs Auron >Shikamaru vs Tokoyami Anonymous
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>>117596066 >Joker defeated deities No he hasn't lorelet. Yaldy isn't even a real deity. Plus, Joker can't even manifest his persona in the real world unlike main characters from persona 1/2(both)/3
So the """neutral""" ground would have to be in someone's mindscape where Joker's abilities are heightened by imagination and interpretation - contrasted again, with the original 3 games who actually know how to use their weapons and have access to real weapons.
It's just a straight spank. Joker's only slightly relevant feat is the Yaldy kill and that wasn't even his own power it was a 'group effort' type thing.
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>>117563099 Who won? If Wally then yeah, that's right not wrong.
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>>117578813 Sonic is not infinite, otherwise characters like shadow, knuckles and silver couldnt react to him in battle against hin which they do.
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>>117596195 Wally raped him into the paste
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This just in...
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>>117596221 Yeah, figured.
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>>117588760 Wally fans are chads and men of culture. Halfags are legit autistic and probably have a fairly low IQ.
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>We'll never have battles between reality warping demi gods in the sonic verse
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>>117590390 Sonic fans are more insufferable, they are the furry hentai kings of furry porn with rheir sonic and tails self insertion fetish.
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>>117592721 No he is right
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>>117596451 Speaks for itself, really.
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>>117596257 He doesnt exist either.
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>>117596296 Emulating their heroes you think?
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>>117595558 >punching something not connected to the planet should bust the planet That’s some amazing retardation.
>ITK Fuck is that? And yes they can control collateral. Kirby gets his shit smacked
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>>117578975 Didn't popeye bring himself back from existence after getting erased by an animator in one episode
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>>117596296 >>117596561 Nah, backwards. Wally’s fans were chimping out, led by Otto, “the fix is in”! “Screwjob”! Halchads were chill before the Ben 10 match
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>>117596605 >trying this hard to rewrite reality and the constant CONSTANT shit posting by halcucks lol
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>>117596657 It has nothing to do with a specific fandom, and everything to do with knowledge. People who know what Hal can do, and has done, knew he would defeat Ben. People wigging out were either ignorant, or some were false flagging.
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>>117596688 >t-they were just falseflagging Okay, anon. If you need to just lie to yourself
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>>117596657 Look at the posts, bitch. Definitely chimping out
>The biggest fucking issue I have with Sonic winning against Wally by being faster is that it basically implies that Sonic is literally faster than the source of all motion in the entire DC multiverse. Sonic, for all his retarded capabilities, just CAN'T be that fast. It's just way too fucking stupid to allow a character played primarily for jokes to be faster than the concept of speed itself; at least Wally has some leeway to justify it. Having someone like Sonic have just enough speed to go faster than Wally basically means that Sonic is literally faster than DC itself. >Another thing that's pissing me off is his supposedly passive ability that he can never lose. The point of Death Battle is to have the possibility, no matter how fucking OP they are, to lose. >If they give Sonic that, then this battle would be over before they could even think about the possibility of pitting any character against Sonic. In that case, Sonic would belong with Superman-level characters like The Mask, Saitama, and of course, Superman. >And I fucking hate to put Sonic in that category of beings with powers so utterly fucking broken beyond repair, characters whose entire universes revolve around their very existence, that their nature just contradicts the main basic premise of Death Battle. It's just so fucking bad, it isn't funny. >The only way I can see this working out, is that Sonic is just barely as fast as Wally, as for his inability to lose? That's a bigger question for Death Battle to answer. Anonymous
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>>117596657 >bencels still seething Anonymous
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>>117596703 Sorry, but double dubs do not lie. False flagging happens in every DB video.
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