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Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 19:14:48 2020 No.115451920 View Reply Original Report

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Has "mean-spiritedness" ever been a valid complaint against a piece of /co/ media?
Everytime i've seen it mentioned it's always by some autist reviewer who thinks that characters should be happy and treat eachother nicely 24/7

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2020 19:18:22 No.115451997 Report

Quoted By: >>115452093 >>115453030 >>115454105

>>115451920
"mean-spiritedness" is not a valid complaint against anything

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2020 19:19:53 No.115452030 Report

Quoted By: >>115452093

In some cases to much "mean spiritedness" just makes things boring.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2020 19:20:48 No.115452052 Report

Quoted By: >>115452093

The word "mean-spirited" sets off my autism radar.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2020 19:20:49 No.115452053 Report

Quoted By: >>115452210 >>115452235 >>115453122 >>115453948

>>115451920
Yes, CatDog is mean-sprited since the main characters get abused and beaten up for no reason.

One of the biggest examples is this What a Cartoon short

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_D7IlAVPmE

All the Dog wanted was to go out in the nature and eat his lunch, but the Possum tortures him for absolutely no reason. You just feel bad for the poor Dog after all this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2020 19:22:11 No.115452093 Report

Quoted By: >>115452110

>>115451997
>>115452030
>>115452052
Kill yourselves retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2020 19:23:07 No.115452110 Report

Quoted By: >>115452131

>>115452093
Mean spirited post

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2020 19:23:35 No.115452116 Report

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>>115451920
some comics, comic book writers are infamous for destroying stuff for "mean-spiritedness"

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2020 19:23:44 No.115452119 Report

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>>115451920
I used to see people saying it was the reason they hated Cat-Dog.
Which always felt weird to me because the show was just bad in general, nothing to do with 'mean spiritedness.'

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2020 19:24:15 No.115452131 Report

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>>115452110
"Mean spirited" post

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2020 19:25:26 No.115452161 Report

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>>115451920

If we got a show where characters were 100% nice to each other all the time, we'd get that Itchy and Scratchy episode made after Marge complained about the show where they just sit around drinking lemonade and saying nice things to each other.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2020 19:28:14 No.115452210 Report

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>>115452053
I hated catdog so much. It always occupied a time slot where there was absolutely nothing else on, too.
>roommate always talks shit to them
>gayass biker dogs always beat them up
>cat never gets laid

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2020 19:29:35 No.115452235 Report

Quoted By: >>115452260 >>115453082

>>115452053

This shit's hilarious. It's slapstick comedy on steroids. If you can't take seeing a drawing getting hurt, kill yourself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2020 19:30:41 No.115452260 Report

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>>115452235
Fuck off, it's not funny to see innocent characters getting beat up

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Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2020 19:33:13 No.115452307 Report

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>>115452260

Yes it is you fucking autistic retard. It's called slapstick and is one of the oldest forms of comedy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2020 19:42:37 No.115452485 Report

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It doesn't usually bother me.
Stressed Eric was actively pushing it for me though, I legitimately couldn't enjoy that show.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2020 19:42:45 No.115452488 Report

Quoted By: >>115453174

>>115451920
Most audiences don't like innocent punching bag characters that just get shit on constantly forever. They want some sort of balance, like the character succeeding in the end or for bad situations to be dealt out as punishment for a transgression.
This is why it's common to see asshole characters constantly having bad shit happen to them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2020 19:42:54 No.115452494 Report

Quoted By: >>115452591

>>115452307
No, slapstick only works if there is a bad guy

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Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2020 19:46:31 No.115452591 Report

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>>115452494

Objectively no unless you're a "MUH MORALS" mongoloid or a sperglord who cries because a poor widdle cartoon character got a boo-boo. Pic related was pure slapstick with no bad guys and they're considered comedy classics.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2020 19:59:41 No.115452913 Report

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>>115451920
It's only really an issue when it's absolutely forced that no matter what happens everyone must always get screwed over and be sad, because that's really damn boring.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2020 20:00:48 No.115452934 Report

Quoted By: >>115453209

>>115451920
Onii-chan~

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2020 20:01:43 No.115452957 Report

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>>115451920
It is if it becomes predictable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2020 20:04:11 No.115453012 Report

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>>115451920
Family Guy when it crosses the "not cool" line.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2020 20:04:53 No.115453030 Report

Quoted By: >>115453075

>>115451997
It is. Try watching "Leviathan" and telling me you enjoyed it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2020 20:06:53 No.115453075 Report

Quoted By: >>115453106

>>115453030
You don't enjoy Leviathan because it's shit, not because it's "mean-spirited".
Cargo 200 is much more darker and disgusting than that liberaha piece of crap and it's still enjoyable in a morbid way.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2020 20:07:09 No.115453082 Report

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>>115452235
>>115452307
>>115452591
Um, technically, slapstick is the purely physical aspect of it. Characters suffering and getting shat on by themselves is not slapstick.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2020 20:08:13 No.115453097 Report

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>>115451920
It's from people who think everything is a morality tale.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2020 20:08:31 No.115453106 Report

Quoted By: >>115453170

>>115453075
t. fascist

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2020 20:09:15 No.115453122 Report

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>>115452053
Maybe you're supposed to feel bad for the dog.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2020 20:10:27 No.115453148 Report

Quoted By: >>115453218

>>115452260
It definitely can be. Comedy isn't about who deserves to get hurt.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2020 20:11:18 No.115453170 Report

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>>115453106
I'm an anarchist, actually. I don't even disagree with the message, I just think the movie is just shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2020 20:11:28 No.115453174 Report

Quoted By: >>115453536

>>115452488
>Most audiences
Source on that poll?

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Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2020 20:13:55 No.115453209 Report

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>>115452934
YOU DONE FUCK UP!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2020 20:14:28 No.115453218 Report

Quoted By: >>115453375 >>115453432

>>115453148
People here fucking HATE Woody Woodpecker because they think he stayed the same unpunished douchebag from some of the early episodes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2020 20:17:08 No.115453259 Report

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>>115451920
>Dan Vs.
>Mean-spirited
It's not mean-spirited if the character deserves it or ends up getting themselves screwed over due to their obliviousness IE classic Daffy cartoons.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2020 20:22:42 No.115453375 Report

Quoted By: >>115455053

>>115453218
Yet they love Bugs Bunny and Daffy Duck, and they love old Donald Duck shorts where bad shit happens to him for 5 straight minutes for little to no reason.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2020 20:25:28 No.115453432 Report

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>>115453218
I never had a problem with Woody.
And no, I'm not a spic either. We had Woody Woodpecker shorts in Russia in early 2000s.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2020 20:30:54 No.115453536 Report

Quoted By: >>115454291

>>115453174
It's well established in psychology. Other social animals also have a sense of fairness.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2020 20:34:44 No.115453598 Report

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>>115451920
Sure, it's valid. The only reason some folks hate it is because it calls attention to their own sadism. Don't get me wrong, suffering and comedy go hand in hand, but if a show or something being called "mean-spirited" upsets you you're probably feeling defensive over being made aware of your own inhumane tendencies. So, I guess, go crush some puppies' heads with a cinder block and stop whining online about how you're so misunderstood for being a sociopath.

Sorry. That was mean-spirited of me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2020 20:35:16 No.115453608 Report

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Only if the characters are intended to be sympathetic, then yeah it can be

However if you're complaining about mean spirited stuff in something like a Todd Solondz film, where the characters are supposed to be unlikable cunts so the film can make a point, then you're missing the point entirely

However, it doesn't ruin works for me, like I hated everyone in Evangelion but I still enjoyed it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2020 20:44:09 No.115453776 Report

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>i can't watch something if the fictional characters aren't always happy 100% of the time and nothing bad happens
I thought this was an adult site?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2020 20:48:35 No.115453849 Report

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>>115451920
It’s valid when the idea is to root for the person or event that is being shitty. It’s a stupid argument when the whole point is that the person or situation is awful, like Always Sunny.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2020 20:52:26 No.115453922 Report

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"Valid" has no bearing, it is a subjective complaint in the first place. People are free to find something too abrasive for their liking the same way they are free to disdain other people for being jerks. Others are free to not have a problem with it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2020 20:53:42 No.115453948 Report

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>>115452053
>a cartoon
>that does cartoon things

Pansy

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Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2020 21:03:01 No.115454105 Report

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>>115451997
>"mean-spiritedness" is not a valid complaint against anything

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2020 21:14:50 No.115454291 Report

Quoted By: >>115454443

>>115453536
Yeah most social animals watch comedy on TV too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2020 21:23:11 No.115454443 Report

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>>115454291
Yeah, that's the sort of nonsensical dumbass reply I expected.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2020 21:55:54 No.115455053 Report

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>>115453375
Bugs seldom starts shit at least, he just finishes it.
Daffy gets shat on constantly but he starts shit just as often.

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Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2020 22:11:38 No.115455359 Report

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Peter Griffin is an example of this shit complaint being valid. He used to be a dumb but well meaning father but in later seasons he becomes a unpredictable sociopath, something about his bored expression when it comes to meg feels unsettling

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2020 22:56:59 No.115456135 Report

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But people love Ed, Edd, and Eddy

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