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Anonymous Thu 21 May 16:36:29 2020 No.115135210 View Reply Original Report

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Is he right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 May 2020 16:38:41 No.115135252 Report

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>>115135210
Humans have been draining the earths natural resources and wiping out animal and plant species long before capitalism was a thing

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 May 2020 16:38:55 No.115135256 Report

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>>115135210
No because that's an extreme, undoing regulations that curbed or prevented wasteful practices or processes that resulted in excessive pollution are a bigger problem once the pandemic nears its end its end and things return to normal.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 May 2020 16:39:41 No.115135270 Report

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>>115135210
Well no, because pollution has barely decreased, since individual people travelling and producing waste accounts for only a tiny fraction of overall pollution, and that's what the lockdown has stopped.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 May 2020 16:42:15 No.115135317 Report

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>>115135252
But capitalism has turned mass overproduction into a priority since we now have to sustain businesses rather than people.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 May 2020 16:42:38 No.115135322 Report

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>>115135252
>long before capitalism was a thing
The comic is explicitly about pollution which is pretty strongly tied to the industrial revolution, especially capitalism.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 May 2020 16:42:45 No.115135326 Report

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>>115135210
why the violence though

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 May 2020 16:45:54 No.115135379 Report

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>>115135210
But pollution and deforestation have been decreasing in capitalist Europe for decades.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 May 2020 16:46:11 No.115135382 Report

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>>115135317
This

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 May 2020 16:46:32 No.115135391 Report

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>>115135210
This faggy Twitter shitpost whining about capitalism isn't on-topic just because because it's posed in the form of a generic crudely-drawn webcomic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 May 2020 16:47:17 No.115135404 Report

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>>115135210
Mass extinction of megafauna and complete landscape overhauls were happening back when humans were still tribal.

A lack of sustainability accentuates Anthropocene destruction but such can easily occur in the absence of capitalism, Soviet Russia wasn't doing much good for its environment either. We are the virus and our imposed symptoms are up to our discretion regardless of economic circumstance.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 May 2020 16:48:11 No.115135420 Report

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>>115135391
If you're banning political cartoons and comics someone better ban all the shows that are just parade floats for lesbians.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 May 2020 16:51:09 No.115135472 Report

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>>115135322
I didn’t know they had 4chan in prison, Mr. Kaczynski

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Anonymous Thu 21 May 2020 16:51:58 No.115135490 Report

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It is possible to have capitalism and not destroy the planet, as countries like Sweden has proven. You gotta take the nuclearpill though, fuck you, it's a literal miracle from the gods and you're going to use solar instead? Are you insane?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 May 2020 16:53:34 No.115135517 Report

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capitalism doesnt cause pollution, its a system
mass production does, and its conntection to capitalism is just as real as its connection to society as a whole, so saying "WERE causing it" is not much less accurate than saying "capitalism is causing"
both are correct in a roundbout way and neither addresses the real issue

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 May 2020 16:54:52 No.115135540 Report

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>>115135490
B-but muh Three Mile Island, muh Fukushima...

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 May 2020 16:54:53 No.115135542 Report

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>>115135490
>Chernobyl ruined the nuclear pill for everyone
Figures it'd take the communists to ruin something so obvious.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 May 2020 16:56:22 No.115135567 Report

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>>115135210
>all economic activity is capitalism
Commies truly are the most braindead people on this planet

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 May 2020 16:56:53 No.115135576 Report

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>>115135490
But how will an unaccountable international bureaucracy take control of economies if there's a solution?

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Anonymous Thu 21 May 2020 17:03:08 No.115135683 Report

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>>115135210
Is he right?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 21 May 2020 17:05:32 No.115135720 Report

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>>115135683
stop posting assmale in every thread, it happens everytime and its just farming (you)s
you already know the answer youre gonna get

can we ban assigned male from this board the same way we banned small horses?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 May 2020 17:06:31 No.115135741 Report

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>>115135542
>Chernobyl ruined the nuclear pill for everyone
Except it didn't. Nuclear was still going strong well after that. Russian gas company shills ruined the nuclear pill for Europe and Nevadan politicians stonewalling Yucca Mountain for decades upon decades killed it here.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 May 2020 17:06:34 No.115135743 Report

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>>115135683
>racial superiority
>but it has nothing to do with race
fucking retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 May 2020 17:06:48 No.115135746 Report

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>people are dying you piece of shit
>also if you have a job I disapprove of or disagree with me politically you deserve to suffer

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 May 2020 17:07:01 No.115135755 Report

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>>115135542
Id imagine three mile island and Fukushima didn’t help much either

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 May 2020 17:07:37 No.115135764 Report

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>>115135720
fuck it, just move every assmale thread into /trash/, they don't fucking deserve their own board

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 May 2020 17:08:11 No.115135777 Report

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>>115135764
they appear on like every goddamn thread if you wait long enough and just, sluuuurp, eat up those (you)s like nothing else

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 May 2020 17:08:54 No.115135789 Report

Quoted By: >>115135847 >>115135908 >>115135942 >>115135976 >>115136035

Who here is actually against UBI? Because I never really understood why anyone in the working class would actually hate getting 1000 bucks a month

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 May 2020 17:09:55 No.115135811 Report

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>>115135683
Yes but they're phrasing it in the dumbest way that won't convince anyone at all because the actual logical endgame of that line of thought is complete sexual revolution/liberation which terrifies the average shitlib.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 May 2020 17:10:57 No.115135834 Report

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>>115135252
Yeah, but it’s sort of gotten a turbo boost the past couple of centuries

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 May 2020 17:11:47 No.115135847 Report

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>>115135789
people who got the idea that its feasible for them to earn even more, and they should, if it werent for those moustache twirling, hand rubbing, evil villain laughing jews capitalists choosing not to give it to them because.... they like seeing people suffer... and for no other reason

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 May 2020 17:12:06 No.115135853 Report

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>>115135210
The increase in production and manufacturing is why we currently have such a high population, if you want to reduce that to a meaningful degree then get ready to let a lot of people die.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 May 2020 17:12:37 No.115135866 Report

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>>115135683
No. Nothing about that is right.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 May 2020 17:13:47 No.115135885 Report

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>>115135847
R/selfawarewolves

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Anonymous Thu 21 May 2020 17:14:44 No.115135903 Report

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>>115135777
I'm sorry your retarded political shitlib thread got hijacked by other shitlibery.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 May 2020 17:14:58 No.115135908 Report

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>>115135789
UBI is a placebo marketed as a panacea. 1k a month won't even cover rent for most people, let alone groceries, medical expenses, transportation, etc. It would do far more good to gradually nationalize the healthcare industry and guarantee free care for everyone, consider heavy rent control, and start working on figuring out how to reduce/eliminate the costs of education. After you eliminate the massive expenses of living THEN we can talk about stipends.

guy

guy Thu 21 May 2020 17:15:12 No.115135912 Report

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>>115135210

Someone this invested in some person agreeing with them has an undiagnosed mental illness.
>>115135885
Go back

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 May 2020 17:16:29 No.115135937 Report

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>>115135903
Once again: totally correct observation, but phrased in a needlessly smug and condescending way that convinces no one and ultimately does more harm than good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 May 2020 17:16:38 No.115135942 Report

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>>115135789
People who don't want to government to take on massive permanent expenses and the taxes it entrails or the idea that the economy is the government's property to do with as it likes. People who don't want to be pets of a bureaucracy being paid with their own money.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 May 2020 17:16:41 No.115135944 Report

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>>115135252
Humans are a natural result of the planet. We aren't killing the planet, the planet is killing itself. And we weren't even the first to try, see cyanobacteria

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 May 2020 17:17:05 No.115135952 Report

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>>115135683
Spartans were waaaay into fucking boys and literally didn't have a single male citizen who wasn't a soldier, so I don't know what he's on about.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 May 2020 17:17:22 No.115135963 Report

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The ones screaming about capitalism and muh gud boy communism are always the ones with the job where they do fuck all like IT advisor, HR or production assistant, writing rants on their massively overpriced child-labor ipads and sipping their expensive as fuck starbucks.

Why would I ever trust anything to come out of these people's mouths, much less take it seriously? They're far worse for the planet than I am, yet they want to tell ME how to live.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 May 2020 17:17:40 No.115135965 Report

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>>115135908
Price controls never work.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 May 2020 17:17:45 No.115135969 Report

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>>115135326
It's a common cope for not having a point.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 May 2020 17:18:10 No.115135976 Report

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>>115135789
you've never held a real job or have ever had to pay your own bills have you?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 May 2020 17:18:12 No.115135977 Report

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>>115135210
The artist is right but it's still an incredibly shit comic, it makes me angry to read

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Anonymous Thu 21 May 2020 17:18:41 No.115135986 Report

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>>115135811
>heterosexuality
>not natural

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 May 2020 17:18:47 No.115135988 Report

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>>115135210
>Is he right?
Kind of. People in communist country don't have disposable income to spend it on useless shit that damages the environment.

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Anonymous Thu 21 May 2020 17:19:46 No.115136005 Report

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>>115135720
Chantards like you wont because 4chan never ban actively dangerous things that led to pic related just the based show that outshitposted 4chan

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 May 2020 17:19:51 No.115136007 Report

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>>115135903
jannies, fucking clean this shit up and ban it
do it you good little sluts

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 May 2020 17:20:41 No.115136020 Report

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>>115135965
Well I don't know if you've noticed but not controlling things hasn't worked out so well either. The middle class is rapidly shrinking and more and more people are slipping into poverty.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 May 2020 17:20:43 No.115136022 Report

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>>115135908
I agree! UBI at the moment is very much a Band-aid but it's a necessary Band-aid. At least just to lift people out of poverty so we can have an actual conversation about economics and class struggle.
>>115135942
People always act like it's going to cost them more in taxes but when has that ever been the case? Besides there's an entire group of people who avoid paying taxes at any cost, why don't we take away their free meal ticket and give it to the masses?
>>115135976
Do you live paycheck to paycheck? Wouldn't some extra money relieve some stress?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 May 2020 17:21:09 No.115136029 Report

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>>115135988
You know the largest producer of pollution is a communist country right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 May 2020 17:21:21 No.115136035 Report

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>>115135789
It's good if you market it as a total replacement of existing welfare. Otherwise, fuck off.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 May 2020 17:22:35 No.115136054 Report

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>>115136022
>Do you live paycheck to paycheck? Wouldn't some extra money relieve some stress?
No because i don't waste my money on stupid shit. Also I'd love extra spending cash but with UBI I'd get 1000 dollars after the government took 2000 out of my paycheck each month.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 May 2020 17:22:38 No.115136056 Report

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>>115135317
explain China then

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 May 2020 17:22:49 No.115136058 Report

Quoted By: >>115136125

>decent message
>ruined by virtue signaling and generic sjw appearance that screams crybaby cunt
> brick throwing on the 4th panel lets you know he's not just a circlejerker but a violent autist

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Anonymous Thu 21 May 2020 17:23:21 No.115136066 Report

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>>115136007

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Anonymous Thu 21 May 2020 17:24:24 No.115136074 Report

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Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 May 2020 17:24:54 No.115136081 Report

Quoted By: >>115136251

>>115135986
Compulsory heterosexuality is not natural simply because humans are not all inherently heterosexual. Forcing people to partake in heterosexuality is an attempt to stimulate birthing rates for social, economic, and military reasons. It carries with it the idea that sexuality is not about personal fulfillment but rather subservience to an intangible higher power.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 May 2020 17:24:55 No.115136083 Report

Quoted By: >>115136162

>>115136035
I don't see why we'd even need welfare if we had UBI.
>>115135912
In all seriousness, the billionaires aren't wringing their hands. The scary part of evil is that they're completely apathetic towards what they do, when they cut employee benefits to give themselves a bonus it's not out of anger or spite, they don't give a shit.
>>115136054
Why do you think you'd get taxed more than you receive? Wouldn't that be a terrible terrible system?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 May 2020 17:25:22 No.115136090 Report

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>>115135317
/thread

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Anonymous Thu 21 May 2020 17:26:01 No.115136102 Report

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>>115136074
>you're just against the existence of trans people

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Anonymous Thu 21 May 2020 17:27:30 No.115136125 Report

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>>115136058
>decent message

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 May 2020 17:27:43 No.115136131 Report

Quoted By: >>115136183

>>115136022
Except you don't get that "conversation" with UBI. The response is going to be "well we have you a thousand dollars a month, what more do you want? Why'd you take it if it wasn't good enough?" Look at how Obamacare was used as a cudgel against people pushing M4A. Half-measures just aren't good enough.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 May 2020 17:28:25 No.115136144 Report

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>>115136005
>dangerous comics

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 May 2020 17:28:49 No.115136152 Report

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>>115136056
It's not completly ideal and fitting to what poster in question wants, so it must be capitalism somehow.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 May 2020 17:29:11 No.115136162 Report

Quoted By: >>115136183

>>115136083
>Why do you think you'd get taxed more than you receive
Because I'm already taxed more than I receive. Many many americans are taxed more than they recieve.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 May 2020 17:30:01 No.115136175 Report

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>>115135986
We're VERY FAR from being natural beings in the first place.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 May 2020 17:30:43 No.115136183 Report

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>>115136131
>>115136162
Sounds like we need to eat the rich then, comrades.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 May 2020 17:32:15 No.115136205 Report

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>>115136066
>argument
what argument? just cause you have a meme for this doesnt mean you need to pretend this is the occasion to use it or that its accurate

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 May 2020 17:32:28 No.115136211 Report

Quoted By: >>115136259

>>115136022
>Besides there's an entire group of people who avoid paying taxes at any cost, why don't we take away their free meal ticket and give it to the masses?
Because it means a government that can do whatever it feels like. Go away, commie.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 May 2020 17:32:30 No.115136212 Report

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>>115135210
>capitalism is destroying the planet!
WOAH! stop with the anti-chinese propaganda, they are the ones paying for this site, you know?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 May 2020 17:32:32 No.115136214 Report

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>>115136054
>but with UBI I'd get 1000 dollars after the government took 2000 out of my paycheck each month.
This.
Every time the government offers "free" shit, it's just a scam against the working class.
If buy a $1 cup of coffee, and the government offered it "for free", it would end up costing $20 between the inefficiency, money laundering, bureaucracy, and plain old fucking stupidity.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 May 2020 17:33:44 No.115136237 Report

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>>115135210
Well of course, but people make a stupid analogy anyway
We could be like the flu, damaging and destructive, but not completely life ending, ergo it can survive easily for years
But we could also be like ebola, kill our host so quickly that we can't spread for shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 May 2020 17:34:47 No.115136251 Report

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>>115136081
>compulsory heterosexuality
Since when have the childless been given shit except by totalitarian ideologies who want more subjects?

A stance against homosexuality (e.g. anti-sodomy laws) doesn't mean "compulsory heterosexuality".

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 May 2020 17:34:58 No.115136256 Report

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>>115136056
What is there to explain? It's commonly known that they have adopted capitalism aggressively in the past few decades.
>but they have communist in their name
I see, then truly North Korea and the Republic of the Congo are legitimate democracies.

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Anonymous Thu 21 May 2020 17:35:06 No.115136259 Report

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>>115136211
And you'd rather let McDonald's do whatever they want? Do you want to have to drink a verification can to play your Xbox?

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Anonymous Thu 21 May 2020 17:35:17 No.115136267 Report

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Anonymous Thu 21 May 2020 17:35:34 No.115136271 Report

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>>115135490
We have to wait until the boomer die out, because they grew up under the threat of nuclear death their entire lives, so they have a very skewed view on nuclear energy

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 May 2020 17:35:47 No.115136276 Report

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>>115136022
>at the moment is very much a Band-aid but it's a necessary Band-aid. At least just to lift people out of poverty so we can have an actual conversation about economics and class struggle.
No one has every been lifted out of poverty by the government giving them money. They just became dependent on that government.

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Anonymous Thu 21 May 2020 17:35:51 No.115136277 Report

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>>115135210
>tfw leftist
>tfw i have to completely wall myself off from most internet leftists because of how retarded most of them act
>tfw can't have political discussion with any other lefties online because they're either woke virture signalling pseuds or brony tier autists

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 May 2020 17:36:16 No.115136284 Report

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ffs mods ban Assigned Male posting
its just shitty low effort bait to collect (you)s

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 May 2020 17:36:28 No.115136290 Report

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>>115135252
The earth has been destroying its own natural resources and wiping out animal and plant species for billions of years before humans ever even walked upon it. Mother Nature is a capricious bitch and the fossil record is a monument to her impressive kill count.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 May 2020 17:36:47 No.115136296 Report

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>wearing masks
lol dorks

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 May 2020 17:36:56 No.115136300 Report

Quoted By: >>115136316

It doens't matter if we destroy this planet (we fucking cant, we can barely damage the surface of it). The whole goal is to become a space faring race/colonize other planets so that we have backups of our species.

People really dont realize that we're literally from a single extinction event that could wipe us for good, yet we are arguing over literally nothing and spending trillions of dollars supporting literal monkeys in 3rd world shitholes when that money couldve gone to more tech research.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 May 2020 17:38:00 No.115136314 Report

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>>115136259
Don't buy a TV with such a retarded system as part of it....which might be why no one has actually tried to use this idea. See also whichever version of the Xbox which was going to prevent use of used games or lending games but Microsoft backpedaled on it because it was so hated on announcement.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 May 2020 17:38:21 No.115136316 Report

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>>115136300
this
every capitalist country could be truly ideal if it was under true capitalism, and also if we didnt spend so much money trying to help other lesser countries that we cant even trade with or help us in any way

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 May 2020 17:38:32 No.115136322 Report

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>>115135952
>just about anyone
>knowing anything about history
It's futile man

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 May 2020 17:39:02 No.115136330 Report

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>>115136267
woah...

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