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Carol Danvers

Anonymous Mon 13 Apr 17:46:44 2020 No.114284765 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>114284826 >>114284960 >>114285205 >>114285628 >>114285984 >>114286006 >>114286488

Watched Avengers Earth's Mightiest Heroes and I liked her. Did Marvel ruined her with the feminist bs?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Apr 2020 17:49:42 No.114284826 Report

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>>114284765
>feminist boogeyman

No, there have been good to great comics with Danvers in them. The fact that they cut her hair and covered her thighs and shoulders didn't cripple every writer who ever touched her again. Check out Ewing's Ultimates.

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Anonymous Mon 13 Apr 2020 17:52:57 No.114284886 Report

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Yes, thoroughly. Whatever minor flash of character she had was obliterated in order to make her their "wonder woman." Miss Marvel Vol. 2 is a fairly decent read, but any of the Captain Marvel stuff is at the very BEST, middling. More often it's just shit. If you want to read about Carol, read the aforementioned Miss Marvel Vol. 2.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Apr 2020 17:56:56 No.114284960 Report

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>>114284765
Carol’s has feminist shit since the 70’s, the pointless retcons and pretending that she’s marvel’s most popular character ruined her.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 13 Apr 2020 18:07:52 No.114285205 Report

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>>114284765
she was, no, she is my fav Marvel character because Marvel died between 2013/2015 so I don't give a fuck about the whore calling herself Carol Danvers in the new comics, if you like her, the 2000's decade had the best Carol stories

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Apr 2020 18:10:25 No.114285272 Report

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she was positioned by Marvel as "THE FIRST MARVEL FEMINIST SUPERHEROINE" when she first appeared as Ms Marvel. If anything they toned down that shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Apr 2020 18:24:04 No.114285628 Report

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>>114284765
Yes and no. Early Carol was one of the dullest excuses for some recluse to earn a living from drawing a model in a leotard. She has fluctuated, but was in general a good character by the mid 00s, when she was well balanced between her likeable traits and flaws

>>114284826
>>114284960
Feminism was very different in the 70s from what you have now. You can´t deny how much Carol has been made into a poster child for nu-Marvels identitarian agenda. They´re pushing her as the next household name despite her titles failing once after another

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Apr 2020 18:29:19 No.114285757 Report

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>>114285272
Refer to >>114285628

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Apr 2020 18:38:37 No.114285984 Report

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>>114284765
Strictly speaking they ruined her for prudish parental bs. "It's not a costume you want your daughter wearing for halloween" BS.

They then switched to using sex-negative feminism bs as a shield.

So really you can blame Disney wanting things to be squeaky clean family friendly and them being Sex Negative.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Apr 2020 18:40:04 No.114286006 Report

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>>114284765
I don't know, do you think you could go outside and check for me? make sure to ask a lot of your friends face to face

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Apr 2020 18:40:18 No.114286011 Report

Quoted By: >>114286074 >>114286202 >>114286500

>>114285628
>"They're out here, pushing female characters as mouthpieces for feminist agendas! This isn't like the good feminism of the 70s, who wanted to burn all porn films! This is sinister because it's current and I don't understand it!"

Again:
>muh feminist boogeyman

Just read comics, or don't read them, and stop whining. There isn't a push by BIG FEMMA to crush men's balls, it's the same old shtick of corporations paying lip service to trends to make money.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Apr 2020 18:43:06 No.114286074 Report

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>>114286011
>don't read them,
Done, now Marvel is begging Hollywood for alms. Good job, idiots.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Apr 2020 18:44:06 No.114286098 Report

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>>114285984
I'd rather not hyper-sexualize minors too, thanks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Apr 2020 18:44:43 No.114286111 Report

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>>114285628
>>114285757
If anything 70s comics feminism was more cringe worthy.

BrieLarsonFan2004

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BrieLarsonFan2004 Mon 13 Apr 2020 18:45:35 No.114286123 Report

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>>114285984
this, Disney is the evilest and twisted company in the world, made by literal demons, they want to destroy the feminine shape and beauty

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Apr 2020 18:48:57 No.114286202 Report

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>>114286011
70s feminism was just as, if not far worse than the current one, chiefly so because of the scholars who pushed it (read de Beauvoir), but they left a genuinely good impression on society as they (unlike the current one) admitted to the fundamental differences in sexes and the freedom to follow proclivities. The ones who are pushing for feminism today are the bitter remnants of extremist, who sadly happen to have gotten too many jobs in education and media, plus that they have SoMe to facilitate their ideas

But agreed on not reading shit i dont like
I'm very nitpicky, and i refuse to patronize media that propagates agendas i disagree with

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Apr 2020 18:55:01 No.114286324 Report

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>>114286123
>this, Disney is the evilest and twisted company in the world, made by literal (((demons))), they want to destroy the feminine shape and beauty

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Apr 2020 19:02:14 No.114286470 Report

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>>114286098
Don't sell halloween costumes of carol. There's plenty of other heroines with conservative costumes to market to kids.

Let Carol remain a sex positive figure instead of pruding her and other heroines up.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 13 Apr 2020 19:03:11 No.114286488 Report

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>>114284765
>Ruin

There wasn't much to ruin really. On her own she on had this run >>114285205 and the show. Otherwise she was just the butt of jokes.

The only thing fems "ruined" was character flaws like having to build up good PR with help of others or her small quirk for blood.

And even that shit is more because she has to have a more bland, family friendly attitude that sells to all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Apr 2020 19:03:44 No.114286500 Report

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>>114286011
They're pretty adamant about removing sexuality right now anon. Prominent characters have been redesigned to take away from the nebulous male gaze. And you're either ignorant of, or skipping the fact that pornography was significantly more "social" in the 70's. It is currently more or less contained (in it's own social circle) in America and feminists don't care about women in other countries.

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