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What does /co/ want to see in a new Superman movie?

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 19:29:14 2020 No.113915118 View Reply Original Report

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Now that the character's eternal and greater popularity than the likes of Marvel superheroes has been established, what would you like to see in a potential new movie?

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Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 19:30:07 No.113915131 Report

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>>113915118
something that inspires people and doesn't try to fit into relevancy by using modern day tropes. he's supposed to be made of dreams and the symbol of what people should be.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 19:30:13 No.113915134 Report

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I don't really want any villains or fight scenes. Just him flying around helping people, dispensing midwest farm wisdom to city slickers in Metropolis.

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Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 19:48:32 No.113915444 Report

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>>113915118
Hope.

Christopher Reeves embodied virtue. If he showed up, everyone knew things would turn out alright. Things were scary until he showed up, and it wasnt the costume but his personality, wholesome, approachable, kind and inspiring. As if Santa had shown up, you just want to be your best self around Superman.

Aside from that, multiple rogues. I want Parasite, Toyman, Metallo and Lex. It's Superman, make a big fucking movie, he can carry it.

WB/DC let the MCU fill the void Reeves Superman left with their awesome portrayal of Captain America, the paragon of virtue who instinctively knows what best to do, the one making every one sigh in relief once he shows up.

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Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 19:50:50 No.113915482 Report

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I want a middle of the timeline Superman story. Not another origin story with the early years, none of that old, tired and cynical stuff, when he's at the prime of his life and career as a superhero and as a man.
I'd also like to see a conflict with a villain that isn't just a fist fight or silly cat and mouse mind games that are riddled with plotholes. What I would like to see is a hero/villain conflict that shows that Superman's goal isn't just to stop bad guys from commiting crimes and hurting people but to help them become better people. He could pop Toyman's head from space with his heatvision if he wanted, but he plays his stupid games because what he really wants is to help Winslow from making a bad situation worse and help him get the justice he was denied that turned him to villainy in the first place. I'd rather see Superman risk his reputation sponsoring the rehabilitation of convicted killer Atomic Skull than just spend 2 hours watching them slap each other around.

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Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 19:51:50 No.113915504 Report

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>>113915118
>What does /co/ want to see in a new Superman movie
The old Kansas Farmer, wholesome guy with the power of a god but a heart of gold. I want John Byrne's run on film, basically.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 19:51:56 No.113915506 Report

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>>113915118
A villain thats not Zod or Luthor

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Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 19:56:00 No.113915578 Report

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>>113915118
Don't try to make him into Batman or any other character that he's not.

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Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 19:56:03 No.113915579 Report

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*ahem*

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Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 20:03:24 No.113915719 Report

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>>113915118
Ignore all these dipshits who talk about “Hope” and “Optimism”

Like, fuck this modern interpretation that Superman’s “defining” is his “positive outlook” in life. Not only does it miss the mark, but it’s utterly pretentious by fucking design.

Seigel and Shuster made the original incarnation of Superman have a devil-may-care attitude. The dude didn’t give a single shit, and he frequently killed multiple fuckers that deserved it, like that Lex Luthor prototype “Lightning Master” or whatever. He was based on Douglas Fairbanks’ personality from Zorro, not fucking Jesus.

A lot of people base modern Superman on the feet of Christopher Reeve, and define that his defining trait to be his eternal “optimism.” Christopher Reeve even went on to say that he defines the Superman he portrayed to be naive in his efforts. But that wasn’t his defining trait, and neither was it his ability to Hope.

You gonna make a Superman movie? Make sure he’s not a caricature. Give him the magnetism that people expect from Superman without sacrificing his backbone or his dignity.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 20:05:12 No.113915741 Report

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>>113915118
Lots of shirtless scenes and ass shots. Preferably hairy

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Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 20:05:35 No.113915746 Report

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>>113915506

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Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 20:06:36 No.113915761 Report

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>>113915504
You already got Chris Reeve movies

What about something different but still Superman?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 20:07:49 No.113915783 Report

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Chris Walken as Toyman

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 20:18:58 No.113915987 Report

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>>113915719
>Give him the magnetism that people expect from Superman without sacrificing his backbone or his dignity.

>that means giving him the obscure 1930's characterization no one knows about
Yeah, no.
Chris Evans portrayed a virtuous guy who inspired hope and a feeling of safety in anyone around without losing the dignity of the character. The character was called naive and made light of by other characters, but that just portrayed the same obstacles anyone with lofty ideals meets when faced with people of lesser character.

I mean, lets not make him an alien too. He cant fly, no heat vision and make him just like the 30's, that should be a recipe for success. He should be beating up regular people for racketeering and domestic violence, that sounds super entertaining and worthy of a multi million dollar budget. Please.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 20:20:24 No.113916018 Report

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>>113915761
Hmmm...All Star Superman?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 21:30:07 No.113917349 Report

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>>113915987
>Chris Evans portrayed a virtuous guy who inspired hope and a feeling of safety in anyone around without losing the dignity of the character.
Yes and? I never said that Superman shouldn’t inspire people.

>The character was called naive and made light of by other characters, but that just portrayed the same obstacles anyone with lofty ideals meets when faced with people of lesser character.
That’s not what I mean. This part I guess I needed to extrapolate more, but the Christopher Reeve Superman’s defining attitude wasn’t the fact that he was optimistic by its lonesome. It’s the fact that when he says “I fight for Truth, Justice and The American Way”, he actually means it. Christopher himself says it’s naive because Superman is still starting off.

There are other attributes that made Christopher a better character tho, like, say, his coyness and his warmth and what not. But that falls under Reeve’s charisma.

>I mean, lets not make him an alien too. He cant fly, no heat vision and make him just like the 30's, that should be a recipe for success.
I mean... first off, for fucks sake dude, it IS a recipe for success. How the fuck you think he got up until this point if he wasn’t? That attitude is the reason why Seigel and Shuster we’re screwed over when later he became a smash hit.

Thirdly, I’m not arguing to go back to the Golden Age. I’m just saying that people arguing for a singular aspect of the character are retarded, because he’s so much more than that.

> He should be beating up regular people for racketeering and domestic violence, that sounds super entertaining and worthy of a multi million dollar budget. Please.
I would unironically pay an assload of money to see Superman beating up wife beaters in downtown Metropolis like in Action Comics.

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Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 21:46:20 No.113917604 Report

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>>113917349
You're being disingenuous by pretending that's not a defunct characterization and by disregarding the short time it lasted as well as the superior sucess of the other interpretations.

No one is arguing for that characteristic to be portrayed alone, anon. You're just ignoring everything else suggested once you saw that.
It will be made for everyone, not just you.

You stink of depression, btw. Just saying.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 22:23:50 No.113918316 Report

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>>113915131
I didn't know you browsed /co/, Geoff Johns

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Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 22:31:08 No.113918445 Report

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>>113915118
A flat arc
Superman's presence causes other characters to go through arcs, while he himself is challenged to keep his principles in the face of conflict

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Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 22:35:57 No.113918523 Report

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I want to see a Superman vs The Elite movie with Manchester Black. You know all that crazy shit Ebony Maw did in Avengers people loved? Well Manchester Black can do that too, and provide a nice opposition to Superman both physically and ethically.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 22:46:22 No.113918767 Report

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>>113915719
The Golden age construction couldn't fly either retard, you gonna take that away too?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 22:47:26 No.113918795 Report

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>>113915118
I'm so sick and tired of live-action capeshit.
Make it a cartoon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 22:47:29 No.113918797 Report

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>>113915482
I know origin stories are kind of overdone but I would fucking love it if they introduced the Legion of Super-Heroes in a Hollywood movie. Maybe instead of doing an origin movie in its entirety, just do a brief flashback in a movie that shows him meeting the Legion and going to the future.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 22:48:09 No.113918820 Report

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>>113915118
I don't. I want DC to put him on the back burner for a while and develop other properties/ideas.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 22:57:27 No.113919130 Report

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>>113915118
Emphasis on the man, less on the super. The entire point and appeal of Clark is that he's just some guy who has the power to do whatever he wants, and chooses to help people. He's a nice guy, and they should just roll with that.

It would also be easy enough to play up his goody good nature for comedy. I want to see this motherfucker rescue a kitten from a tree, and help an old lady cross the street and then inspire a bunch of punk looking people to volunteer at said lady's nursing home.

Fuck the irony, fuck the "relevance", fuck the Jesus symbolism. Just let him be Superman.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 23:02:22 No.113919321 Report

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>>113915118
I want them to show that he's just a regular, happy guy who had a regular, happy childhood.

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Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 23:03:45 No.113919382 Report

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jokes

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Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 23:08:14 No.113919540 Report

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>>113915131
>>113915134
>comfyshit

I'd rather watch cute girls doing cute things if we're already going down that road.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 23:15:47 No.113919875 Report

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>>113918523
Superman looks like a manchild in What's so funny though. It's literally a rage story from Joe Kelly because the Authority was outselling Superman

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 23:16:41 No.113919931 Report

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>>113919875
It's a good story though, and it doesn't have to be 1:1

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Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 23:18:01 No.113919982 Report

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The problem with the Snyder Man of Steel for me was it was far too vague and shallow. The scenes were really short and choppy and never had time to breath. I still fundementally believe that Cavill would have made a heck of a Superman if he was given something to work with.

Take the montage of Clark travelling. It told us nothing. Clark smashes a phone pole through a guys lorry because he was sexist I guess. And he saves some people from an oil rig. Snyder relies on visuals and the idea of well, people know this shit so it will slide. But you do have to kinda say "who are these characters" and not just throw in a vague unease about a character doing anything. Every "heroic" moment in the film is ruined. "Stop invicible son" "Don't save people on that bus" blah blah. And it isn't that it is "not muh supes". It is just, never given room to breath. And for a man who wants this movie to be filled with meaning it offers very little.

So lets go back to that oil rig scene. Oil rig is on fire, captain of fishing boat does nothing (clark is on fishing boat just because), he goes and saves people. CGI scene. Tells you nothing.

How about this:
>Clark wants to save them.
>Captain says no.
>Clark goes anyway.
>Testing the limits of his power and its clear he doesn't know how strong he is at this point.
>Desperately saves people from the rig.
>Gets them down to the water.
>Surrounded by fire..
>Clark thinks, we're fucked, when the fishing boat arrives as the captain saw what he was doing and was inspired to help.
>Clark rescues these people but is flung into the water.
A simple scene rewrite can change things.

The most unearned part of man of steel was clark walking into the daily planet like "lol hi I should be here". Not set up at all. The idea of doing Superman in the real world blah blah wasn't the issue, just that the film's execution is poor and shallow.

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Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 23:30:01 No.113920590 Report

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>>113915719
>>113915987
>>113918767
I'm actually down with giving us a Golden Age Superman-style movie if it's done in two ways: first is an origin/early Superman-kind of deal where he's just starting out and decides he wants to take on social justice. Gradually, just like the comics, things get crazier and he finds himself taking on supervillains, though there should still be a political flavor to the movies (maybe even coming around full circle if Darkseid invades and Superman has to take on fascism). Second, just do a Joker-style Elseworlds movie.

>>113919130
>>113919321
My fucking dudes.

I'm sick of this notion that Superman can't ever have levity, have a sense of humor, enjoy himself, or have a good time. I really want to see a relaxed Superman who cracks the occasional joke, relates to the common man, smiles and laughs in conversation, and flirts with Lois. I hate how everyone acts like Superman HAS to be all proper and serious all the time and it just sucks the fun and humanity out from the character.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 23:35:26 No.113920850 Report

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Unironically do a Smallville type movie of a young clark unsure of all his abilities fighting lower down villains and learning about himself.

Move to big city clark fighting super villains and shit. Journalism. Growing. Moving into the world stage.

Then have a truly massive Braniac level thread to top it off

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 23:50:12 No.113921717 Report

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>>113915118
Truth, Justice and the American Way.

Not even American btw.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 23:51:40 No.113921786 Report

Quoted By: >>113925030

>>113915761
No. Goddamned Kevin Smith Superman Lives all over again SHUT THE FUCK UP.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Mar 2020 00:05:38 No.113922732 Report

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>>113915719
I take it you liked mos and bvs huh?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Mar 2020 00:06:40 No.113922807 Report

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>>113915741
This. We need gladiator Superman.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Mar 2020 00:10:43 No.113923045 Report

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>>113919540
Cute supergirl doing cute things? I’m in.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Mar 2020 00:11:37 No.113923091 Report

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>>113918795
>Make it a cartoon.
As much as I'd like a new superman cartoon I don't think anything can top the DCAU one

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Anonymous Sat 28 Mar 2020 00:12:29 No.113923145 Report

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>>113915118
I want to see an adaption of Morrison’s Action run. Superman vs. Metallo.
>>113915131
>>113915134
You two are utter fags. Comfyfags should off themselves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Mar 2020 00:13:54 No.113923227 Report

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>>113922732
Nowhere does it say that retard. I know /co/ doesn’t read comics but there are Superman comics that manage to be serious without being Snyder cringefests.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Mar 2020 00:25:20 No.113923708 Report

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- Montages of him saving shit, from minor stuff like helping a cat out of a tree to diverting a flooding river

- knockdown, dragout fights with people at his power level

- an inspiring message of hope

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Anonymous Sat 28 Mar 2020 00:25:33 No.113923721 Report

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>>113915504
Byrne’s run is ass. How does /co/ manage to have such garbage taste?
>>113915719
Right on anon. This guy actually reads Superman comics. So many of you retards clearly only know Superman through memes. Superman is a CHARACTER not the avatar of “hope” that so many idiots ITT thread are trying to make him into. Yes Snyder’s films were fucking awful, but retreating into Donner nostalgia is no better. Returns tried that and it sucked as well.

A Superman movie right now needs to do a couple things imo:
1. Do not fucking use Zod or Lex. Follow MCU Spidey’s example and give us Superman Rogues we haven’t seen. Give us Metallo, Parasite, Brainiac, Manchester Black, Mongul, Mxy, Ultra-Humanite, Livewire, fucking ANYONE else.
2. USE the JOURNALISM. It’s so often a fucking side note and it shouldn’t be. You could have a lot of fun with crusading journalist Clark Kent. It lets Clark interact with people outside his costume, it lets him be HUMAN instead of fucking Alien Jesus all the time.
3. Clark is the main character so let us fucking see a range. Lets see Superman laugh and tell jokes, flirt with Lois, and make us feel good, and lets see him get pissed at Lex, and cry when he can’t save everyone, and worry about hitting deadlines. Let Supes be human.
4. Lay off the fucking Jesus references. They’re shit anyway but after Snyder they’re downright cringeworthy.
>>113918767
The power levels don’t matter anon. He can be Silver Age all powerful or as weak as the Golden Age/Early New 52.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Mar 2020 00:28:18 No.113923843 Report

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>>113915118
Do what the Reeves Superman movies did. Have people be all, that's a dumb costume, and have Superman be all my mother made it for me, I'm Superman I'm going to be awesome and good and decent no matter what you say or do.

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Anonymous Sat 28 Mar 2020 00:29:12 No.113923876 Report

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super kids

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Anonymous Sat 28 Mar 2020 00:36:39 No.113924163 Report

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>>113923876
>EAT THE FUCKING PIE, BRUCE, I SWEAR TO GOD.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Mar 2020 00:38:05 No.113924225 Report

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>>113923721
What comic you recommend riding?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Mar 2020 00:59:42 No.113924986 Report

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>>113918767
>The Golden age construction couldn't fly either retard, you gonna take that away too?
Golden Age Superman could fly since Superman #10, retard. Read comics

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Mar 2020 01:01:07 No.113925030 Report

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>>113921786
>Goddamned Kevin Smith Superman Lives all over again SHUT THE FUCK UP.
You literally don’t know what you’re talking about. It’s Shuster and Seigel, retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Mar 2020 01:04:00 No.113925117 Report

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>>113922732
MoS is literally the movie where all of that “Hope” shit I was complaining about came from. That and Mark Waid. The Shield was not ment to symbolize hope, that was for us to decide what it meant. For some people it meant something different.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Mar 2020 01:05:15 No.113925149 Report

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>>113924225
Superman: Phantom Zone

It’s essentially Dante’s Inferno but with Superman, and it would allow a good character exploration

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Mar 2020 01:08:45 No.113925256 Report

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Let him doubt himself but not to the point where he says "Superman was never real"

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Mar 2020 01:13:28 No.113925416 Report

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>>113923721
>So many of you retards clearly only know Superman through memes. Superman is a CHARACTER not the avatar of “hope” that so many idiots ITT thread are trying to make him into.
Yes, this is essentially what I’m trying to say. Superman can’t be summed up by one sentence. Superman CAN be optimistic. He’s more optimistic than cynical. But this meme needs to stop

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