>>113618139Tommy Ladderbro is a DC meme, I don't know why Marvel shills have tried stealing it.
>>113618186Kirby didn't write the words, Stan did and its funny that the people who always claim Stan made Sue weak while Kirby wanted her to be more independant almost ALWAYS are the same ones playing up the Sue/Namor shit. People who write that part of it up are essentially having Kirby's wife fuck someone else.
In regards to Byrne, he had beef with Kirby because he'd said something in defense of Stan/Marvel and Kirby drew him a spineless company-man in a comic.