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Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 19:45:41 2020 No.113348267 View Reply Original Report

>I hate the current totalitarian system and I'm going to tear it down
>How?
>By commiting horroble terrorist actions and killing dozens of innocent men, women and children
Just finished watching this, wtf was this version of batman's problem? Guy was a total lunatic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2020 19:59:36 No.113348496 Report

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>>113348267

He lives in a communist society before Superman took it over where his parent where murdered for speaking out, hell the comic gives a pretty good description of his creation of why he was like he was.

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Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2020 20:07:13 No.113348637 Report

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>>113348267
been a long time since I read the comics, but didnt soviet Superman bodied the amazons? what happened to Diana here?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2020 20:09:24 No.113348665 Report

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>>113348637
Feminism''?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2020 20:10:33 No.113348686 Report

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>>113348637
It's exactly how it went

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2020 20:14:16 No.113348746 Report

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>>113348267
>watching
READ THE MA- THE COMIC!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2020 20:14:26 No.113348747 Report

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1950s lois
>i'm a strong independent career woman who won't get tied down by having kids
also 1950s lois
>i smoke the same brand as my doctor so these cigarettes are totally safe
it's like the writer's were trying their best to imitate 50s stereotypes without betraying their woke propaganda

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Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2020 21:11:19 No.113349637 Report

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>>113348267
>innocent
that's where you're wrong kiddo
they supported Kryptonian Socialism, they were the enemy and deserved to die

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2020 21:15:58 No.113349698 Report

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>>113348267

>Black Jimmy Olsen
> Lack Luster World in a Bottle reveal
>No Superman REALIZING HE WAS OUT SMARTED BY LEX

Fuck this movie

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2020 21:28:43 No.113349915 Report

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>>113349698
not even Lex is your grampappy, what a waste

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2020 21:42:07 No.113350186 Report

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>>113348267
Batman is fucking crazy, dude. This is a central aspect of the character.
Like, imagine if instead of warring on crime, Batman set his sights on all of society. Imagine TDKR Batman if he had hated Superman since he was 9 years old. His whole life, he literally can't do anything to stop Superman directly, and he gets more and more frustrated, until he realizes he can strike back by fighting him with propaganda and terrorism.

>>113348747
Did you not watch the part literally immediately after that where she stomps on the cigarette she just lit?
Also I have absolutely no idea what the fuck thinking cigarettes are safe has to do with feminism, it seems like you just want to get mad about something.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2020 21:44:08 No.113350236 Report

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>>113349698
>Lack Luster World in a Bottle reveal
That was one of the big improvements though, Superman having a breakdown and questioning all his beliefs all because Lois had a single sentence in her pocket was always really, really stupid.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2020 22:00:43 No.113350591 Report

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>>113350236
Not really, especially when the moron was working WITH BRAINIAC to micromanage every single thing in the world.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2020 22:05:52 No.113350678 Report

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>>113348267
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Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2020 22:09:12 No.113350745 Report

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>>113350591
How is Lois holding the actual bottled city not more of an emotional impact than "lol, put cities in bottle superman"? It's the same thing but at least the movie tries to make it at least mildly plausible for why this particular moment would persuade Superman to change his course of actions.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2020 22:13:13 No.113350836 Report

Quoted By: >>113351028 >>113358877

>>113350745
>How is Lois holding the actual bottled city not more of an emotional impact than "lol, put cities in bottle superman"?
Because that's way too fucking obvious, at least the letter is more nuanced than literally showing you the fucking bottled city.

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Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2020 22:16:12 No.113350895 Report

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>kills civilians, no problem
>doesn't want to kill superman, wants to keep him alive for REASONS

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2020 22:18:11 No.113350933 Report

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>>113350895
>for REASONS
I'm sorry, did the movie skip the part where Batman explains that he's doing the same shit that he did to all those political prisoners that Stalin told him to put in the gulag?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2020 22:19:57 No.113350978 Report

Quoted By: >>113351032 >>113355154

>>113350933
it's a retarded reason
one power outage and batman's "brilliant" plan goes to shit and he breaks out

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2020 22:22:12 No.113351028 Report

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>>113350836
I'm just saying man, why the fuck would a single sentence cause Superman to just drop everything and say "you know what, I was wrong" after decades of doing what he did? At least with the actual city you have something tangible to confront him with and the reveal that Braniac could have restored it at any time made it hit harder. Actually, the movie makes Braniac's betrayal more of the inciting incident rather than Stalingrad making him flip like a dime instantly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2020 22:22:24 No.113351032 Report

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>>113350978
>it's a retarded reason
This Batman is a victim of the Soviet regime and he saw first hand the shit that they pulled, it's perfectly in character.
>one power outage and batman's "brilliant" plan goes to shit and he breaks out
Yeah I'm sure that Lex "I can play chess with 10 people while fucking my wife and talking with the President" Luthor is going to help with this shit and overlook a fucking power outage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2020 22:29:39 No.113351167 Report

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>>113351028
>why the fuck would a single sentence cause Superman to just drop everything and say "you know what, I was wrong" after decades of doing what he did?
Have you ever had a moment where you look at something/someone and it makes you reflect on how you act or who you are as a person? Because that's exactly what happened.
Supes wanted to do good and he thought that his way was the best way for people to live, but in reality he was a tyrant that was brainwashing people and keeping them around as pets, micromanaging every thing to the point where it didn't rain unless Brainiac wanted to and he was emotionally blind to the shit that was happening around him. And it just being a simple question that makes him remember the shit that Brainiac and Luthor were pulling a couple of decades earlier but now he's the one on the other side of the table was a good reveal.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2020 22:43:24 No.113351452 Report

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>>113351167
It's stupid though, the comic goes into great detail over how Luthor could talk Superman into suicide within minutes because he's just a genius apparently and the whole letter thing only had the effect it did because apparently Luthor is such a super genius that a single sentence can cause Superman to doubt every action he has ever taken up to that point. It's not that Superman had this realization from a single sentence, it's that the whole climax of Luthor's retardedly complicated plan hinges on Superman reading that once sentence and having an emotional breakdown when the sentence itself isn't that complicated and could have been uttered anytime before it. I think that's more me disliking how Millar writes "smart" people, which the movie toned down quite a bit thank god, but the heel turn moment for Superman in the movie felt a lot more natural than the bullshit in the comic which was by far one of the weakest parts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2020 22:46:39 No.113351519 Report

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>>113348267
>this retard thinks totalitarianism has been defeated by negotiation and voting
American Education. Make sure you get a good night's rest wagie. We don't want you being unproductive for the overlords.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2020 22:48:38 No.113351552 Report

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>>113351452
>it's that the whole climax of Luthor's retardedly complicated plan hinges on Superman reading that once sentence and having an emotional breakdown when the sentence itself isn't that complicated and could have been uttered anytime before it
For that to work you'd need someone stupid enough to go up to the leader of the fucking world and say that, and some random fuck saying it is not going to have the same emotional impact as your nemesis asking you if you're going to continue to be the bad guy.
>I think that's more me disliking how Millar writes "smart" people
That's definitely a major problem with all of Millar's works.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2020 23:45:12 No.113352574 Report

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>>113348637
she went ultra instinct

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2020 23:49:44 No.113352641 Report

Quoted By: >>113352666 >>113352762 >>113353065 >>113353602

>IGN review in recommended
>"ending is shit, comics did it much better"
>check wiki
>Billions of years in the future, Earth is being torn apart by tidal stresses from the sun, which has become a red giant. Luthor's distant descendant, Jor-L, sends his infant son, Kal-L, rocketing back into the past. The final panels of the comic book depict the landing of Kal-L's timeship in a Ukrainian collective in 1938, effectively causing a predestination paradox (and, thus, making Superman a descendant of Luthor and Lois).
I'm not a fan of movie ending but this is even worse

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2020 23:51:21 No.113352666 Report

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>>113352641
Fuck IGN
All they do is suck Disney/Marvel dick

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2020 23:55:07 No.113352722 Report

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>>113348267
Most successful revolutions are violent and cause tons of innocent deaths.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2020 23:57:43 No.113352762 Report

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>>113352641
Yeah, the ending is pretty stupid and doesn't really fit thematically with the rest of the stuff but I think that's because Morrison was the one who suggested it and Millar the hack he is just ran with it.

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Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 00:00:31 No.113352800 Report

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>>113352762
The ending reminded me of megamind.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 00:08:25 No.113352923 Report

Quoted By: >>113353602 >>113357359

>>113348637
Interesting. Instead of getting advanced aged as result of breaking the lasso her hair only gets bleached. Also in the comic her hair had recovered some of it's color by issue three while here it stays bleached post timeskip.

And new white Wonder Woman outfit to go with her new hair color and newfound rejection of communism.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 00:17:06 No.113353057 Report

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>>113348267
>super gulags that keep people with no will to live,
>superman finally finds out after leaving his pride
>batman is fucking furious, waiting years to get revenge
>also sees the worlds corruption, but only the eyes of vengence
>DURRR DURRR DURRR WHY DO BATMAN COMMIT TERRORISM
Batman may be wrong for putting punishment on superman, but after what superman does to people, like fucking lobotomize them, it is very reasonable why he does that, still, all revolutions leak blood

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 00:17:31 No.113353065 Report

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>>113352641
Yes I too critique comics by only reading the plot synopsis.

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Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 00:34:25 No.113353321 Report

Quoted By: >>113353624

>>113348267
The only good communist is a dead one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 00:45:49 No.113353483 Report

Quoted By: >>113353519

>>113348267
To be fair he did give them a fair.

"If you don't want to die? I suggest you all run like hell! Batman out."

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 00:47:59 No.113353519 Report

Quoted By: >>113353640

>>113353483
They clearly show people just fucking book'n it.

Yeah I don't think they made it

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Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 00:54:23 No.113353602 Report

Quoted By: >>113354185

>>113348267
I mean just like every terrorist organization (backed by US ofc) doing every time?

My biggest dissapointment was Nigger Olsen. Once again they erased redhead. They performing ritauls at this point, I swear.

>>113352923
sperma

also in cartoon she just like in comics became weak

>>113352762
>Yeah, the ending is pretty stupid
no it's not
also It woulda be original origin of original Superman, before Siegel switched from future man to alien.
It's also sorta comes along with the #fact that Joe Shuster's (formerly Shusterowich ofc) parents were from Ukraine SSR, i.e. where Red Son's ship landed in comic
Poetic comic books

>>113352641
you are a le idiota

>>113352666
truth
and they incosistent as fuck
first they (rightfully) gave 9 to Man of Steel, but during Wonder Woman review they said it's best DCEU , even tho they gave it only 7,9 make your fucking mind (altough one could argue that Man of Steel isn't really DCEU or DCEU #0)

>>113350678
based

>>113349698
>> Lack Luster World in a Bottle reveal
i'd prefere as less of that shit as possible

>>113349698
>HE WAS OUT SMARTED BY LEX
was he?

>>113351452
Superman did nothing wrong though. It's either brainwashing them, or putting bullet in them. Because prisons just don't work.
Though, he could just make them play vidya games and watch anime instead. agree/

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 00:56:00 No.113353624 Report

Quoted By: >>113359801

>>113353321
go get a shot or something

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 00:57:06 No.113353640 Report

Quoted By: >>113357952

>>113353519
they didn't
he even cheezed "10 minutes? SIKE 10 SECONDS BRO"

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 00:59:43 No.113353679 Report

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It's widely agreed that Soviet Batman is the worst and least congruent part of Red Son. Every other character is the same person under different circumstances and he's the only one who's a completely different character wearing the iconography of someone else.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 01:34:15 No.113354185 Report

Quoted By: >>113359604

>>113353602
>mass reply
>snydercuck image
thanks for giving me a reason not to read all that bullshit

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 02:03:58 No.113354622 Report

Quoted By: >>113354958 >>113356392

>>113350186
>I have absolutely no idea what the fuck thinking cigarettes are safe has to do with feminism
nothing. i was pointing out the contrast. on one hand they have the trope of everyone smoking back in the day because they don't know the dangers of it yet, and on the other hand they have this modern progressive woke belief that being a housewife or having kids is a burden.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 02:25:02 No.113354958 Report

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>>113354622
Those people existed, not every woman was your nuclear family ideal back then. Cigarettes on the other hand would not have been known to be dangerous for your health to the general public.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 02:25:13 No.113354961 Report

Quoted By: >>113355103 >>113355158 >>113355327 >>113355560 >>113359930

>>113348637
>books
>Diana was in love with Superman, even when he was too autistic to care, and most of her actions were from frustration in this and a growing horror that Superman was becoming the dictator he tried to stop, grows to hate Superman after he ignored her injuries after he told her to free herself from Batman's trap
>movie
>Diana's an independent dyke who don't need no man, and most of her actions are completely nonsensical because she hates all men; one particularly retarded decision was when she decided to free Superman from Batman's trap despite already disliking Superman's totalitarian stance (and sticking with him anyway) by breaking her rope and destroying the red sun lamps
I haven't seen a story get this thoroughly fucked by forced diversity since the Dark Tower movie, except this time the diversity quota was directly responsible for fucking shit up.

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Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 02:26:41 No.113354983 Report

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>>113348267
Communists aren't human; it's good to kill them, like any other parasite.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 02:28:29 No.113355011 Report

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Any message of "fighting for freedom" instantly goes out the window when you start murdering civilians.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 02:30:14 No.113355045 Report

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>>113354983
God forbid people from other countries have different ways of life.

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Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 02:31:26 No.113355070 Report

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>>113355045
Oh, don't worry. He did.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 02:31:35 No.113355073 Report

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>>113355045
Yes, God does forbid it and so do I.

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Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 02:33:34 No.113355103 Report

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>>113354961
What were they thinking?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 02:37:27 No.113355154 Report

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>>113350978
Considering Wonder Woman was a lesbian who didn't even like Superman at that point, he didn't count on her giving a shit about him getting sunlamped.
And he was right not to. That resolution was stupid as shit. There was no reason why she would break the sunlamps since she clearly wanted both of them to stop their bullshit. She had the upper hand and lost it because her comic counterpart broke the lamps (never mind that she actually had a personal reason to).

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 02:37:31 No.113355158 Report

Quoted By: >>113355209 >>113355234 >>113357350 >>113359164 >>113360324

>>113354961
>Diana's an independent dyke who don't need no man
Why is Diana only ever Superman's sex object or a radical strawman? That's pretty fucking annoying to see one or the other is most DC animated features.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 02:41:00 No.113355209 Report

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>>113355158
Because most of DC's current output in animation is either based on the New 52 shit where all Wonder Woman was supposed to be in team-up books was Superman's Lady McBeth or based on Elseworld tales where... all Wonder Woman was supposed to be was Superman's Lady McBeth. So they either adapt things as it is or try to do the opposite.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 02:43:03 No.113355234 Report

Quoted By: >>113355243 >>113355259 >>113355286

>>113355158
She wasn't Superman's sex object in the books. She was in love with the guy, which is a form of strong infatuation that twitter retards can't comprehend a character ever having. Part of the problem was that Superman didn't fuck her. Ever. And even made a point to say that fucking wasn't something he had an interest in.
So she settled for the friend zone for a few years. Then, when she found out he didn't give a single shit about her at all (which happened right after she destroyed herself saving him from the heat lamps) she gave up on him and became his enemy.
Her actual character arc held a stronger feminist message without even trying than the one they shoehorned in so the twitter retards could post clap emojis.
And more importantly her actions actually made sense in the books.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 02:43:51 No.113355243 Report

Quoted By: >>113355255

>>113355234
>She was in love with the guy
Wow, Wonder Woman falling head over heals with Superman. How original and inspiring.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 02:44:48 No.113355255 Report

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>>113355243
Yeah, it was like Millar was turning popular DC tropes on their heads when he wrote Red Son or something.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 02:44:56 No.113355259 Report

Quoted By: >>113355319

>>113355234
>She was in love with the guy, which is a form of strong infatuation that twitter retards can't comprehend a character ever having.
Come on. In most Elseworlds Wonder Woman likes Superman JUST BECAUSE. There's no reason given as to why other that Superman is Superman or any development really. It's an instantaneous shit that you're supposed to take for granted as a DC reader.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 02:46:30 No.113355286 Report

Quoted By: >>113355296

>>113355234
>he was in love with the guy, which is a form of strong infatuation that twitter retards can't comprehend a character ever having. Part of the problem was that Superman didn't fuck her. Ever. And even made a point to say that fucking wasn't something he had an interest in.
>So she settled for the friend zone for a few years.
That's essentially INJUSTICE, but then IWW just doubled down.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 02:47:32 No.113355296 Report

Quoted By: >>113355307 >>113355350 >>113355631

>>113355286
Injustice wouldn't have existed if Red Son wasn't written first.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 02:48:14 No.113355307 Report

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>>113355296
You mean Kingdom Come.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 02:49:04 No.113355319 Report

Quoted By: >>113355358 >>113355394

>>113355259
This is gonna sound crazy, but some women actually like when a man is stronger than them, and show an attraction to them.
Superman is the only man who's stronger than Diana. Do the math.

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Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 02:49:08 No.113355322 Report

Quoted By: >>113355666 >>113355711

So what did they change in the movie from the comics?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 02:49:28 No.113355327 Report

Quoted By: >>113355452

>>113354961
Maybe the staff felt that the SMWW subplot would not work well with the viewers after all the criticism they faced for the DCAMU movies.

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Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 02:50:25 No.113355350 Report

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>>113355296
>Story where Superman goes evil and Batman tries to stop him
Anon, I am 100% certain Injustice was going to happen with or without Red Son.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 02:50:47 No.113355358 Report

Quoted By: >>113355367

>>113355319
Oh, right. I forgot that Superman fans love that power fetishism.
What if Diana just fund Superman ugly or boring, or something, despite all his muscles?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 02:51:30 No.113355367 Report

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>>113355358
Then she would never have danced with him in the first place.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 02:53:04 No.113355394 Report

Quoted By: >>113355470

>>113355319
>Superman is the only man who's stronger than Diana. Do the math.
Would she dump his ass after seeing Lex Luthor or the Prankster making a fool out of Superman?That must be pretty emasculating specially when Wonder Woman is only infatuated with Superman because of his powers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 02:54:07 No.113355413 Report

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>>113355367
In a social event women dance with everyone out of politeness.

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Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 02:56:54 No.113355452 Report

Quoted By: >>113355484

>>113355327
Then they're pussies. That wasn't a subplot. A shitload of decisions she made in Red Son were based on her feelings for, bias towards, and eventual hatred against Superman.
In the movie she was already disliking Superman's totalitarian stances by the time Batman took her hostage, to the point where she was very vocal about this. She had no reason at all to break the sun lamps keeping him grounded, and she only did it because the narrative called for it. She would've opted instead to incapacitate Batman and keep them both powerless, especially considering her general hatred for men as a whole.

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Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 02:57:56 No.113355470 Report

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>>113355394
>Would she dump his ass after seeing Lex Luthor or the Prankster making a fool out of Superman?
Yes, obviously.
You don't know much about women.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 02:58:48 No.113355484 Report

Quoted By: >>113355545

>>113355452
I agree. I'm tired of SMWW because it always shit-ly written, but there where better ways of making the plot work without the one-sided romance, and they fumbled it hard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 03:00:37 No.113355514 Report

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>>113348637
Woman right?

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Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 03:02:13 No.113355545 Report

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>>113355484
Exactly. They had three options: understand the SMWW situation for what it actually was (a dark subversion of every SMWW situation that came before it) and adapt it faithfully, find a way to change it and make that change work logically, or not adapt Red Son at all.
They chose the "let's go full retard and not give a shit about weaving our massive character change into the story" option.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 03:03:08 No.113355560 Report

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>>113354961
completely agree. every scene with wonder womyn and lois was unbearable cringe.
made worse by the fact it was supposed to take place decades before woke culture was a thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 03:07:12 No.113355631 Report

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>>113355296
How so? Superman going dictator isn't exactly a recent concept.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 03:09:21 No.113355666 Report

Quoted By: >>113355746 >>113355770 >>113356138 >>113358708

>>113355322
Luthor is less of a dick outside of his treatment of Bizarro, Superman kills Stalin when he finds out about gulags, Wonder Woman is a carpet muncher, the world in a bottle scene is a bit less stupid, and there isn't any future time loop shenanigans

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 03:12:03 No.113355711 Report

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>>113355322
Basically the whole theme, the cycle of it all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 03:14:09 No.113355746 Report

Quoted By: >>113356052

>>113355666
So Superman just disappears and the world is happy? The whole thing where Luthor's world is actually doomed to failure because people become too cold and complacent is thrown away, and Luthor's future is supposed to be totally great?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 03:15:25 No.113355770 Report

Quoted By: >>113356052

>>113355666
>and there isn't any future time loop shenanigans
Reducing the message of the original ending to "time loop shenanigans" is pretty bad, the point of it all was the sheer hypocrisy of Luthor and ideals as a whole.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 03:32:35 No.113356052 Report

Quoted By: >>113356341

>>113355746
>>113355770
The fuck are y'all talking about? Earth goes on to prosper for millennia in relative utopia before turning into Krypton and exploding. How is that supposed to represent the folly of Luthor's ideals when for one he's been dead for thousands upon thousands of years by that time and two that's still a pretty great run for Earth. What, does it mean everything is destined to fail because of the eventual heat death of the universe?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 03:36:54 No.113356136 Report

Quoted By: >>113356170

Did the comic have Batman?
I'm not a fan of how they used him in this movie.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 03:36:55 No.113356138 Report

Quoted By: >>113356179 >>113356418

>>113355666
>the world in a bottle scene is a bit less stupid
There is zero explanation for how Lex got ahold of Stalingrad, and Lois dramatically saying what the note said in about 100 more words made the whole thing slightly more weight. The actual scene was better and held more weight. Part of its charm was that a scrap of paper with the right words were all it took to take down Superman.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 03:38:30 No.113356170 Report

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>>113356136
Yes. He had a larger part, was introduced earlier, his parents were shot by one of Superman's comrades (Superman never went to any gulag or killed Stalin), and had a much stronger legacy with a much larger army of Batmen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 03:39:31 No.113356179 Report

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>>113356138
>slightly more weight
Retarded. It made the whole thing more retarded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 03:40:24 No.113356193 Report

Quoted By: >>113356255

Convince me how the differences between the USA and the USSR would directly lead to the observed differences in Superman's character.
Why not just make him SUPERMAN in the USSR? Why change him without a good reason?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 03:43:57 No.113356255 Report

Quoted By:

>>113356193
The movie made a lot of changes without good reason.
In the book Superman's most radical ideas stemmed from manipulations by Brainiac.
Brainiac was in the book, but Superman only started doing extreme shit after Brainiac showed up. In the movie Superman was already doing exactly what Stalin did minus the gulags even before Brainiac arrived.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 03:48:20 No.113356341 Report

Quoted By: >>113356415 >>113356448

>>113356052
>The fuck are y'all talking about?
What are you talking about? Sure the world prospered, by becoming the Planet America for fuck's sake, Luthor dominated the world in his own way in comic, in the end one ideal just overtook the other, it was never about being free.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 03:52:06 No.113356392 Report

Quoted By: >>113356430

>>113354622
>modern progressive woke belief that being a housewife or having kids is a burden.
Are you really this ignorant of history?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 03:53:45 No.113356415 Report

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>>113356341
Considering mankind prospered for the next several billion years, managing to live as long as Earth itself, I can't really find fault in Lutherism other than that somebody should've discovered a space program by then.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 03:53:58 No.113356418 Report

Quoted By: >>113356460

>>113356138
>hurr I'm dictatoer Superman and I'm at the cusp of defeating America!
>read this real quick bro
>B O T T L E
>Oh no, everything I've done is... BAD?!?!?
>Abloobloobloo
Superman shouldn't change his entire world-view in the course of a single page, especially when they imply that he only does so because Luthor is super smurt and somehow a simple sentence can cause a person to commit suicide because genius.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 03:54:46 No.113356430 Report

Quoted By: >>113356461

>>113356392
>cleaning a house and watching your kids grow up for a living is a burden

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 03:56:03 No.113356448 Report

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>>113356341
His ideals dominated because they allowed freedom and relative utopia, it's only like millions of years later that the whole thing goes to shit but you can hardly fault Luthor when few things endure that long.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 03:57:14 No.113356460 Report

Quoted By: >>113356578

>>113356418
It's still leagues better than
>"How did you get this heavily guarded miniaturized city of Stalingrad from my own home?"
>"My husband's just that smart lol!"
Also you type like you're underage. I regret wasting a second reading this reddit-tier shit. Fuck off, retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 03:57:20 No.113356461 Report

Quoted By: >>113356479 >>113356496 >>113364472

>>113356430
For people who want a career other than raising kids, yes.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 03:58:34 No.113356479 Report

Quoted By: >>113356504

>>113356461
>careers are more important than the future of mankind
On second thought I agree. Never breed. Ever.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 03:59:37 No.113356496 Report

Quoted By: >>113356878

>>113356461
Women fuck up every career they have. They're a weak link.
Also you will never be a woman.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 04:00:33 No.113356504 Report

Quoted By: >>113356550

>>113356479
>Everyone should breed, no exceptions
Shit like that is what produces dysfunctional families because the parents only have children out of a sense of obligation rather than an actual desire or preparedness to do so.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 04:03:33 No.113356548 Report

Quoted By:

I'm sorry to admit that this graphic novel adaptation left me bored and disappointed. The original story wasn't exactly a deep-dive into genius, but any intelligence, nuance, heart, or guts it might've had were ripped out of this thing before it was animated. As a result, the result was more clumsy taxidermy than story adaptation.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 04:03:42 No.113356550 Report

Quoted By: >>113356593

>>113356504
Typical woman logic, missing the point and rolling with that.
Women are breeding objects, no exceptions. Not all of them should breed, but that's what they are and no amount of whining is gonna change that. There are plenty of career paths that allow child rearing, like painting or knitting or writing or some other stay at home shit.
Study up, cunt.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 04:05:19 No.113356578 Report

Quoted By: >>113356622

>>113356460
Fucker, Luthor drops in at Superman's place of residence just to announce his attack and for no other purpose in the actual comic with the same exact hand-wave when it comes to how he got past the defenses. If anything, the comic is MORE convoluted with even more unexplained bullshit. The movie just makes the bottle scene work more thematically and from a writing perspective even if it isn't perfect either. In the end, I'd just rather go with the version that requires less plot contrivance.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 04:06:21 No.113356593 Report

Quoted By: >>113356629

>>113356550
You're not going to get tradwife cunny no matter how much you meme about it

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 04:08:07 No.113356622 Report

Quoted By: >>113356667 >>113356691

>>113356578
>If anything, the comic is MORE convoluted with even more unexplained bullshit.
kek no.
>The movie just makes the bottle scene work more thematically and from a writing perspective even if it isn't perfect either.
It stripped every ounce of soul from the scene, and threw in more brainiac bullshit to boot.
Once again, fuck off with your retarded redditry. You're happily defending one of the shittiest direct adaptations in recent memory.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 04:09:09 No.113356629 Report

Quoted By:

>>113356593
Cunny's underage you sick fuck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 04:11:33 No.113356667 Report

Quoted By: >>113356674

>>113356622
>You're happily defending one of the shittiest direct adaptations in recent memory.
Batman Hush was a thing that happened.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 04:12:08 No.113356674 Report

Quoted By:

>>113356667
Hence "one of".

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 04:13:03 No.113356691 Report

Quoted By: >>113356707

>>113356622
>stripped
If anything, the movie added to the scene. The comic is like two panels before Superman just gives up and starts crying, at least the movie actually has him conversate with Lois for a bit and Braniac's betrayal to realize the errors of his ways. I didn't particularly like Red Son outside of that and how they handled Bizarro but those two things were genuine improvements over the original which isn't exactly the best writing out there considering it's one of Millar's works.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 04:14:19 No.113356707 Report

Quoted By: >>113356903

>>113356691
>If anything, the movie added to the scene.
Stop, you're killing me!
It did a quarter of its job in four times the time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 04:18:23 No.113356769 Report

Quoted By:

>>113350678
you forgot Wasteland Warrior and the ayatollah of rocknrolla

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 04:24:45 No.113356878 Report

Quoted By:

>>113356496
>this cope

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 04:26:18 No.113356903 Report

Quoted By: >>113356952

>>113356707
Comic
>I've just got rid of America's last defenses and about to storm the White House
>B O T T L E
>ABLOOBLOOBLOO
vs.
Movie
>Here's the very representation of everything you're trying to achieve, which you probably let fall on the wayside to allowed to be stolen in the first place and all conveyed through a human conversation
>Also answers the obvious question of why Braniac didn't just unshrink Stalingrad in the first place if Superman had him under control
>the impetus for Superman changing course isn't because he read a letter, but because he realized that Braniac was manipulating him to become more like him
Now explain to me how the comic scene was better without dismissing with reaction images and saying shorter = better like it's a Tim Fuckley strip.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 04:27:07 No.113356911 Report

Quoted By: >>113357055 >>113358915

At least we got this.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 04:29:57 No.113356952 Report

Quoted By: >>113356996

>>113356903
>thing I don't like
>I AM SILLY
>thing I like
>A series of mental gymnastics I've pulled out of my ass, none of which added to the story or themes at all
For the last time, and this is your last (You), fuck outta here.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 04:33:01 No.113356996 Report

Quoted By: >>113357015

>>113356952
>your points bad
>I'm not gonna bring up any points but mine good
>Also, here's a smug reaction image (btw I won)
Ok fag, whatever lets you sleep at night

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 04:34:32 No.113357015 Report

Quoted By: >>113357280

>>113356996
You already made a good point against that shitshow of a scene and pretended it was bad.
Less really does equal better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 04:38:16 No.113357055 Report

Quoted By:

>>113356911
Y tho?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 04:44:30 No.113357119 Report

Quoted By: >>113357237

Why did Batman throw Superman into that hole instead of just killing him? He had to have known the guy would get out eventually and just reconquer everything. He was so fast and powerful he only needed a two second window of time to make an escape, which he could have gotten from a simple power surge during a thunderstorm or something. He was just way too dangerous to be kept alive.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 04:53:05 No.113357235 Report

Quoted By: >>113357255 >>113357278 >>113357323

>Movie: Wonder Woman is a lesbian who tells an infatuated Superman she's not interested in him, chooses to injure herself to save Superman, can counter Superman, and nobaly withdraws to Themascara
>Comic: Wonder Woman loves Superman but Superman tells her to fuck off, Wonder Woman injures herself to save Superman because Superman told her to, Wonder Woman is embittered, and pathetically attacks Superman and fails
The comic doesn't really represent women that well, relatively speaking.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 04:53:16 No.113357237 Report

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>>113357119
He was likely going to let his Batmen have at him later since it was a political thing. He didn't expect Diana to break free because of the personal cost to her health, but Superman convinced her to break free anyway.
In the movie Diana foiling Batman's plans was far more retarded, as by that point she already pretty much hated Superman and his regime.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 04:54:34 No.113357255 Report

Quoted By: >>113357275

>>113357235
On the contrary, the comic nailed a large subset of women.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 04:56:03 No.113357275 Report

Quoted By: >>113359689

>>113357255
Have sex.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 04:56:12 No.113357278 Report

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>>113357235
Seems like in both cases WW just doesn't have a good reason to even be in the story, and is only there to save Superman in that one scene.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 04:56:16 No.113357280 Report

Quoted By: >>113357310

>>113357015
Exactly, which is why I like the movie's climax better than the comic. In the comic, the fuckhuge battle and Luthor's keikaku just creates a clusterfuck while the movie streamlines the whole thing and throws the whole Bottle scene a couple extra minutes and emotion that isn't just millisecond sobbing. The actual bottled city carries more emotional weight than a few words on paper and it requires the exact same contrivance for Luthor to get past the defenses of the Winter Palace from the source material yet it actual serves some sort of plot-driven purpose in the movie rather than just to make Luthor and even smugger asshole.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 04:57:57 No.113357310 Report

Quoted By: >>113357353

>>113357280
>now it's unironically praising the fucking fight scenes
We're done here. DC animated has been a pile of shit since Justice League War. Slurp that shit up all you want, but nothing's gonna change that your taste is absolute garbage and nobody likes or watches this shit anymore.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 04:59:10 No.113357323 Report

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>>113357235
>The comic doesn't really represent women that well, relatively speaking.
I know you're posting dishonestly, but the purpose of the original story wasn't meant to "represent" women at all. Diana's story was supposed to help illustrate the tragedy of Superman's tunnel-focused drive to keep the world safe. She was one of the casualties of Superman's mission.

Not every story that has women in it needs to set up a specific representative image of all women.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 05:00:22 No.113357342 Report

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>>113348267
Information overload, man. As a society, we're drowning in a quagmire of vid-clips, e-mail, and sound bites. We can't absorb it all. There's only one sane solution.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 05:00:51 No.113357350 Report

Quoted By: >>113357586

>>113355158
Because WW sucks and they don't want to use her, and don't know how, but she's famous so putting her in things sells. Pick a cliche stick it on her and roll it out keeps working, so they keep doing it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 05:01:08 No.113357353 Report

Quoted By: >>113357358 >>113359697

>>113357310
>DC animated has been a pile of shit since Justice League War.
Am I the only one who liked Reign of the Supermen?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 05:01:32 No.113357358 Report

Quoted By: >>113359697

>>113357353
Yes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 05:01:34 No.113357359 Report

Quoted By: >>113357639

>>113352923
she did semi age when she broke the whip but must of women her way back while she was away

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 05:19:22 No.113357586 Report

Quoted By: >>113357615

>>113357350
It's mostly the byproduct of writers being Superman fanboys and feeling that Lois just doesn't cut it, and the characters need someone "super" as a partner.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 05:20:31 No.113357599 Report

Quoted By: >>113357644 >>113357698 >>113359011 >>113359874

>>113348267
I noticed that the movie went out of its way to amplify Superman's assholery and lessen the assholery of his opposition than in the comic.

>lex luthor is a huge, smug asshole in the comic who isn't above using frequently questionable methods and not giving a shit to get his way
>in the movie, lex is only really a dick when it came to bizarro
>batman in the comic was a mad terrorist killing innocents just to get Superman who he believes killed his parents, even though Superman had nothing to do with it
>in the movie, Superman directly fucked up Batman's parents and Bats is presented as less of a crazy asshole and more of a well-intentioned dude with bad methods
>superman does fucked up shit in the comic as a result of brainiac's manipulation and influence, here superman does evil shit even before brainiac shows up

I'm not sure if this is just an unintentional side effect of them fucking with the plot so much with dumb rewrites or because of Bruce Timm's hateboner for Supes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 05:21:50 No.113357615 Report

Quoted By: >>113357680

>>113357586
But literally every single animated DC adaption goes out of its way to cut out Superman and Wonder Woman stuff in favor of Lois. I don't think DC hates Clark and Lois, if anything it's the opposite.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 05:24:07 No.113357639 Report

Quoted By:

>>113348637
Something else I just noticed in this version different to the comic. Apparently she reforged lasso in this verse? It seems restored and on her hip.

>>113357359
Not sure what your trying to say? Lesbianism acts as anti-agathic?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 05:24:24 No.113357644 Report

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>>113357599
Lets be honest, Superman was too much of a DINDU in the comic that never did anything wrong intentionally and everything of bad came about because of manipulation from others, while everyone around him were awful people.

Its something i always thought to be pure Superman wank because DC has to protect his purity. It makes no sense.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 05:27:50 No.113357680 Report

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>>113357615
I said comic writers, and the main reason why the DCAMU brought Lois as a love interest back in their adaptation of Death and Return of Superman was because they were backed into a corner with the DCAMU stuffs doing badly. They had gotten a lot of criticisms over the years over their depiction of Superman and Wonder Woman, and their relationship.

Even then they had a few passive-agressive scenes in Death of Superman and Reign of the Supermen to complain about the audience criticisms of their version of SMWW.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 05:28:44 No.113357698 Report

Quoted By: >>113357741

>>113357599
Is this a recent hateboner? He developed Adventures of Superman and that shit was great.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 05:32:10 No.113357741 Report

Quoted By: >>113357762 >>113359874

>>113357698
Timm doesn't hate Superman. Never did. Some people complain about TAS and blame him because they think his portrayal of the character in the old cartoons was too weak and flawed. They ignore that Superman was underpowered because the producers and writers struggled to write dramatic fights in an action cartoon when it came to Superman against such villains like the Livewire. It was a necessity. But fanboys will be fanboys and they feel that Timm was out to get them.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 05:33:48 No.113357762 Report

Quoted By: >>113357799

>>113357741
Christ. They won't even acknowledge that one episode of Superman even pointed out that he usually held back?
Even the 40s cartoons had him holding back.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 05:37:14 No.113357799 Report

Quoted By: >>113359874

>>113357762
I doubt they remember the Fleischer cartoons. They also complain about Supes being too flawed, like i mentioned. Since in the cartoons he tended to be somewhat prone to anger and tunnel-vision. Specially when it came to Lex Luthor and Darkseid. But then again how are you going to explore a character for so many episodes without giving him some minor flaws? But these fans hate Superman being anything other than Mr Nice.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 05:49:17 No.113357952 Report

Quoted By:

>>113353640
That wasn’t the case in the original book though

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 06:45:36 No.113358626 Report

Quoted By:

>>113348267
>>>By commiting horroble terrorist actions and killing dozens of innocent men, women and children

Hey don't knock it. It worked for Nelson Mandela

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 06:54:44 No.113358708 Report

Quoted By:

>>113355666
I prefer the original letter scene over Lois bringing the actual "Kandor" bottle. Superman defeated - by a letter! The reason they changed it is pretty obvious though - they wanted to give Lois a bigger role, so she's not just handing over a mysterious letter that Lex cooked up. The scene is still essentially the same, but the execution is worse and less iconic.

Same for Batman's signal. In the movie, it was just a random fire shaped as a bat that I probably wouldn't have even made out to be a bat had I not read the comic. Batman sabotaging Premier Superman's birthday celebration by making the fireworks form a bat was much better fuckery, both visually and storywise.

Come to think of it, Superman saving Metropolis and catching the Daily Planet globe was another great visual that should have been in the movie as well. At that point he shouldn't be giving speeches, he should be Superman - only Russian.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 07:13:11 No.113358877 Report

Quoted By: >>113358978 >>113359304

>>113350836
its fiction. fuck your nuance.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 07:15:21 No.113358903 Report

Quoted By:

blyatman dosen't outright say it but he is literally imprisoning superman in the gulag Blyatman was in as a child.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 07:16:23 No.113358915 Report

Quoted By: >>113364539

>>113356911
>comic
>Stalin is poisoned, Superman reads a library of medical texts and works on creating an antitoxin to save him
>movie
>Superman murders Stalin with heat vision

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 07:23:08 No.113358978 Report

Quoted By:

>>113358877
Retards like you is why people don't take this shit seriously.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 07:25:58 No.113359002 Report

Quoted By:

>>113348267
Didn't comic Red Son Batman give everyone advance warning to evacuate before his bombs went off?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 07:27:14 No.113359011 Report

Quoted By:

>>113357599
What does Timm have to do with the movie, wasn't this directed and produced by Sam Liu?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 07:46:26 No.113359164 Report

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>>113355158
Unironically because she is not allowed to be better than Superman in any team ups. It doesn't help the JLA boys all have a thing in the DC while hers is mostly just "no fun mom who does fancy combat". Part of what makes the new DC Superhero Girls awesome is she is allowed to be the self sacrificing, nurturing heroine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 08:07:20 No.113359304 Report

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>>113358877
Someone should make this into a /co/ banner, perfectly sums up the current target demo for capeshit

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 08:12:44 No.113359332 Report

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>>113348267
Based. Fuck'em.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 09:01:45 No.113359604 Report

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>>113354185
>

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Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 09:17:25 No.113359689 Report

Quoted By:

>>113357275
Have kids.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 09:18:34 No.113359697 Report

Quoted By:

>>113357353
No.

>>113357358
shut up

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 09:23:01 No.113359727 Report

Quoted By:

>>113348267
probably just a imitation of V for Vendetta

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 09:36:57 No.113359801 Report

Quoted By:

>>113353624
Aren’t any shots but don’t worry, making them will get defunded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 09:39:36 No.113359817 Report

Quoted By: >>113360088

Eh I can understand why they would change the story. Wanted to give something different to stand out from the comics and not just recycle the same thing so readers of the comic have something new to view.
Yeah it was shit but it's better than doing a 1:1 adaptation

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 09:49:19 No.113359874 Report

Quoted By:

>>113357599
>batman in the comic was a mad terrorist killing innocents
no he wasn't, he was indirectly responsible of deaths of others when KGB thought they were Batman.

>superman does evil shit
like what?
>oh noo, not my hecking korea invading us soldierinos
>>113357741
>Some people complain about TAS and blame him because they think his portrayal of the character in the old cartoons was too weak and flawed.
they are posers, not real Superman fans

>>113357799
>he tended to be somewhat prone to anger and tunnel-visio
just like in comics
Again, not real fans.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 10:00:24 No.113359930 Report

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>>113354961
Based change if you ask me.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 10:22:35 No.113360042 Report

Quoted By: >>113363551

I think it's pretty based how the creators demonstrate how the communist model can only surpass the west with an Alien Ubermensch and a evil supercomputer micromanaging every single aspect of it's populous life and lobotomizing dissidents.

You really outdone yourselves WB let this movie be a monument to shitting on commies for decades to come.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 10:35:16 No.113360088 Report

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>>113359817
>Yeah it was shit
no it wasnt
Plus motion comic already exists. for 1:1 purpose (even then, it left out stuff like collateral damage druring fight with Bizarro)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 11:19:45 No.113360324 Report

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>>113355158
Reverse that Anon. Diana wants Clark. That makes Supes her sex object.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 14:31:24 No.113361943 Report

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ginger ginger gingen rignen gegnir aaaaaaaaa

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 14:56:21 No.113362199 Report

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haaaa

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Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 15:03:15 No.113362268 Report

Quoted By: >>113362883

>>113348747
To be fair, some genuine old cigarette ads actually look like modern parodies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 16:05:11 No.113362883 Report

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>>113362268
cigarettes ad

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 17:05:17 No.113363551 Report

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>>113360042
Silly anon. You don't need to point out the silly utopian pitfalls of socialism and marxist philophies. Even the ones that subscribe to it know deep down it's all a bunch of insane drivel.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 17:38:08 No.113363950 Report

Quoted By: >>113364400

>lots of badguys saying shit like "make america great"
>no batman pointing to his sexy ushanka

Better version:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZjrOEs8Ss0

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 17:53:25 No.113364142 Report

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>>113355073
>>113355070

Fuck off, Yankzi scum!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 18:13:31 No.113364400 Report

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>>113363950
>Superior Mn screaming america first was a bit of a meme

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 18:18:42 No.113364472 Report

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>>113356461
Dilate

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 18:24:00 No.113364539 Report

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>>113358915
well the comic came out before Man of Steel, so an amount of tweaking was expected.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 18:31:44 No.113364633 Report

Quoted By: >>113364649

>>113348637
Never read the comic version, when I saw her in that scene I thought "fuck yeah: now amazones goe apeshit and will try to rule the earth to save it from man"
Then she just flies off and gets back to her planet.(Died in her way home I hope)

What the fuck was the entire point of her character here?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 18:33:07 No.113364649 Report

Quoted By: >>113364664

>>113364633
>Then she just flies off and gets back to her planet

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2020 18:34:37 No.113364664 Report

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>>113364649
>tfw Lesbonia doesn't have a porn film industry

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