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OHNONONONONO DC BROS???

https://variety.com/2020/film/box-office/birds-of-prey-box-office-opening-weak-1203496672/

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 00:05:05 No.113006405 Report

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>>113006350
Its almost like alienating your target demographic then trying to target people that don't give two shits about comics or super hero movies and thinks they're for children will make you go bankrupt

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 00:08:04 No.113006448 Report

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She is so much better as a normal woman instead of that shit blue arthoe look from Scott Pilgrin

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 00:08:12 No.113006452 Report

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>>113006405
It worked for captain marvel. And that had one of the most incel filled hate campaign evers

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 00:08:34 No.113006460 Report

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>>113006350
>DC BROS
You're not one of us if you had any hopes for this movie

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 00:10:30 No.113006494 Report

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>>113006350
How long before the "Why didn't men go see this?" articles churn out?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 00:11:24 No.113006507 Report

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>>113006448
>arthoe
Just say hipster.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 00:11:29 No.113006510 Report

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>>113006452
>It worked for captain marvel.

Captain Marvel was also leading into Endgame. Most of the people who went to see it only did because they thought it might be important to the overall Marvel storyline.

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 00:16:11 No.113006584 Report

Quoted By: >>113006604 >>113012571

This is the seating for the Eglington theater in Toronto for tomorrow. No one booked

How did it go so wrong?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 00:16:41 No.113006596 Report

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>>113006350
It's like people forget that the entire focal point of Suicide Squad was The Joker. Granted he turned out divisive to say the least, but in the run up to the movie, he was what people were interested in. Afterwards, people were campaigning to see all his deleted footage. Quinn was just fapbait that comic fans dismissed as "not muh Dini."

Simple fact is, The Joker as a character does not appear in bombs. There's always interest in the character. Batman '89, The Dark Knight, Suicide Squad and Joker were all financially successful movies because mainstream interest in The Joker is a character is always going to be there. As soon as they cut Quinn off from Joker, you knew this was going to happen. Suicide Squad 2 will more than likely bomb without him on board.

Even a Joker that the majority of the audience hated managed to drum up enough dimes to make over three quarters of a billion dollars. He was the reason SS was successful, WB just forgot and cast their lot in with Quinn who's never really held a super successful solo book in her life.

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 00:17:20 No.113006604 Report

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>>113006584
The masses often reject fine art.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 00:18:42 No.113006630 Report

Quoted By: >>113006679 >>113006758 >>113007415 >>113008258

WB/DC is quite possibly the most consistently inconsistent studio out there. Every movie people expect to flop does well, every movie expected to overperform underperforms very hard. It makes the public topsy turvy with them

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 00:19:13 No.113006638 Report

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>>113006452
CM didn't alienate anybody with it's marketing campaign. Brie Larson kinda didn't do any favors but the MCU is bigger than just her

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 00:19:35 No.113006644 Report

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I'm just glad Shazam is not the runt anymore

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 00:21:18 No.113006679 Report

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>>113006630
Bro?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 00:21:29 No.113006687 Report

Quoted By: >>113006719 >>113006726 >>113006733 >>113006797

Well for one thing Suicide Squad had a whole episode of Big Bang theory ride its dick, I’ve never even seen a YouTube add for this movie

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 00:21:41 No.113006693 Report

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>>113006596
>WB just forgot
I think WB just fails to understand that Harley appeals to normies because she's girl joker and while I do think removing her from Joker's influence leads to better storytelling, its not actually good from a marketing perspective. Also not having Joker featured in this movie to some degree was a mistake. They should have hyped up an actual break-up scene featuring Leto's Joker but they burned that bridge with the solo-film. And that was worth it mind you but I'm talking purely from a business sense here

Like every dumbfuck white girl I work with posts Joker/Harley romanticism on their facebook feed. They don't care that its abusive they just like that girl Joker and boy Joker kiss and make funnies. It actually would have been better for Harley's character if Joker just started to care for her and not treat her like dogshit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 00:22:58 No.113006712 Report

Quoted By: >>113006747

>If it does bad no more Harley Push
>if it's good then it's good variety
Either way is okay with me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 00:23:17 No.113006715 Report

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>>113006507
Nah she's an arthoe

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 00:23:32 No.113006718 Report

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>>113006494
>>113006452
>>113006405

Proper good Birds of Prey was always feminist.

The movie is just a bad adaptation in tone,plot and visuals.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 00:23:33 No.113006719 Report

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>>113006687
well, they advertised on the videogame awards or some shit lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 00:23:57 No.113006726 Report

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>>113006687
Its a dumpmonth movie and they almost certainly thought "No competition!" but dump monthing a high-profile film is super risky since a lot of audiences kind of just tune out. Like one movie in the span of January-Feb every year does okay for itself and everything else flatlines. Its where movies go to die and studios keep trying to change that and it practically never works out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 00:24:13 No.113006733 Report

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>>113006687
BoP's advertising was Twitter and a Fortnite event

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 00:24:16 No.113006736 Report

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Cant wait for marvel to make a- force and it to break a billion

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 00:24:25 No.113006741 Report

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>>113006452
I'm still thinking Marvel pumped those numbers by buying tickets for little girls, so that when a sequel was made people might just go because the last one had a big attendance.

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 00:24:38 No.113006743 Report

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>>113006718

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 00:24:45 No.113006747 Report

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>>113006712
>If it does bad no more Harley Push
I only wish this was true

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 00:25:22 No.113006758 Report

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>>113006679
>>113006630
Ew

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 00:25:35 No.113006762 Report

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There the one and only birds of prey~~

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 00:25:53 No.113006767 Report

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>>113006741
Sure they did buddy

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 00:26:01 No.113006771 Report

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>>113006743
Even adapting Rebirth Birds would have been a better take.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 00:27:03 No.113006788 Report

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>>113006741
One or two showings like that wasn't going to make a difference. Captain Marvel did well because people were sold on this false idea that she was going to be massively important in Endgame but in reality she had like 10 minutes screen time. If that. Had her movie come out post-Endgame I still think it would have done well though because the MCU brand name sells tickets.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 00:27:50 No.113006797 Report

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>>113006687
>>113006719
>>113006733
I'm so sick of you poorfags who don't watch television. This shit has been shilled with commercials and interviews incessantly. It's like when people said Shazam wasn't advertised and yet it was showing up in commercial breaks for every fucking NBA game, every late night show and all over the internet.

If comic book shit isn't shilled to you, you either have good adblockers or you aren't actually that interested in comics and spend your time doing other shit.

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 00:27:49 No.113006798 Report

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Miss us yet?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 00:28:20 No.113006807 Report

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>>113006741
No it was booked fully at alot of theatres. Compared to birds of prey which is empty in even large cities

Its quality was on the level of the first captain america. Which wasnt terrible but not good either. Add the Manvel brand and you can see why it did well. I still bet that the second us gonna make just as much

And how much could marvel had inflated? Even if they gave out tickets for a million more dollars at the BO people would have been sure to notice

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 00:28:27 No.113006812 Report

Quoted By: >>113006970 >>113013392

>>113006350
It just doesn't look interesting and the trailers look like absolute nonsense. Even when I heard the movie got decent reviews I still wasn't interested. They're banking on Harley Quinn's popularity to sell the movie but forgetting the fact that most general audiences have only seen her in a shitty movie they didn't like.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 00:28:52 No.113006821 Report

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>>113006797
>I'm so sick of you poorfags who don't watch television
only boomers watch television and they are not going to watch harley fr*ggin quinn, dude

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 00:29:44 No.113006839 Report

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>>113006693
This needed to be a Mad Love adaptation movie. Sure, happening so soon after JOKER would have been jarring, but they didn't need to release it now. They could have given the Birds of Prey an actual movie free of Harley, and saved the Mad Love film for next year. Recast Joker if Leto's bridge is burned, but his fangirls are probably a large part of why Suicide Squad made bank.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 00:30:06 No.113006849 Report

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>>113006350
>>let's change everything about the characters and talk about how it's all social justicy.

>>why isn't anyone coming to see this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 00:30:22 No.113006857 Report

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>>113006798
I always miss you. Especially since this shows failure lead to us not getting a Gotham Central show from TNT.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 00:30:39 No.113006865 Report

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>>113006350
DC Bros are the ones who wanted it to flop

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 00:31:36 No.113006889 Report

Quoted By: >>113011052

>>113006741
Are you dumbfucks still parroting this nonsense? I'll even entertain your idiocy for a bit.

The movie made $1b. Realistically how much could Disney spend on buying tickets for their own movie? I'll be generous and give you $100m. That's a fucking drop in the bucket to the movie's actual gross.

Captain Marvel was a success, you lost.

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 00:31:44 No.113006891 Report

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>>113006350
Harley is no longer a whore and the movie fails.

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 00:31:57 No.113006896 Report

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>>113006350
They still haven't clued in that the type of people who go for this shit NEVER actually support it with their wallets.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 00:32:04 No.113006901 Report

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>>113006798
This version even had a Harley Quinn.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 00:32:16 No.113006903 Report

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>>113006644
Shazam is getting a spin off and a sequel.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 00:32:36 No.113006910 Report

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>>113006798
Yes. It had Barbara as Oracle so it had the right dynamic. Costuming wasn't actually too bad considering as it came out slightly before Black canary returned to leather and fishnets and the Jim Lee Huntress design debuted in the comics. Using Helena Wayne instead of Bertinelli was also an acceptable divergence.

Not too bad in retrospect.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 00:34:22 No.113006940 Report

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>>113006797
>I'm so sick of you poorfags who don't watch television.
Nobody watches television anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 00:35:51 No.113006967 Report

Quoted By: >>113008003

>>113006350
If WB were smart they would fire every single person on their marketing department because they've had every single one of their films come in below expectations for an entire year at this point

But WB is about as smart as the average 4chan poster so they'll just fire whoever is currently in charge at DC

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 00:36:09 No.113006970 Report

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>>113006812
>and the trailers look like absolute nonsense.

This right here. I'm sick of movies trying to imitate the Guardians of the Galaxy "ZOMG WE'RE SO WACKY, RANDOM, AND COLORFUL" gimmick.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 00:39:02 No.113007011 Report

Quoted By: >>113007021

>>113006452
I just saw CM because I thought it had an impact on Endgame.
Without the Endgame hype no one would've watched it lmao.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 00:39:30 No.113007021 Report

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>>113007011
Antman?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 00:41:15 No.113007059 Report

Quoted By: >>113007104

>>113006839
>but his fangirls are probably a large part of why Suicide Squad made bank.

That shit is scary:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Vgx0DJOAJA

He's rented an entire island in Croatia for a weekend with his fans. Tickets range from $3,000+ to $6,000+ just for 3 days. That trailer has proper Jonestown vibes. I am fully willing to believe his fangirls (no males feature in this trailer) willed Suicide Squad into a financial success. Motherfucker runs a genuine cult.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 00:41:18 No.113007060 Report

Quoted By: >>113007752 >>113014919

>>113006839
I think one of the problems with this movie too and I say this as someone that thinks it looks FUN and I want to see it is that it was greenlit and production started in that era where WB was like "Oh shit people liked Wonder Woman and its our first hit lets announce a ton of female-lead projects and make that our direction!" and then none of them but this went anywhere so you have this movie here that was clearly built with franchising in mind because at the time DC thought it could corner the female demographic but now expected bomb Aquaman broke 1 billion, and Shazam held its own against an MCU film. Joker also broke 1 billion but its not DCEU.

And ultimately studios do not fucking know how to market to women without alienating men. A movie just needs to speak for itself the smug "piss them off so they talk about us" marketing gimmick where actors and creative talent dance around in interviews praising social aspects of a film just makes people get all whiny. This is where Alita and Wonder Woman succeeded because their actors were very sincere and warm during marketing while still saying things like how they're proud to play a strong female character. Smugness isn't endeering its just offputting.

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 00:43:37 No.113007104 Report

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>>113007059
I genuinely didn't know Leto had this level of influence. That one shot of him sitting on the deck is pretty much entirely female. This scares me.

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 00:47:52 No.113007194 Report

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>>113006839
I'd say Sejic's Harleen is a pretty good script to work from

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 00:50:48 No.113007250 Report

Quoted By: >>113007361 >>113007385 >>113008487 >>113009850

Who the fuck is Jared Leto?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 00:51:01 No.113007256 Report

Quoted By: >>113007415

>>113006452
People crying over sjw related shit don't matter. It's up to the general audience to find a certain character appealing. They liked Carol being a powerhouse and the "dont let anyone tell you what you can or can't do" message, even if the delivery was average. They liked Aquaman's chest and carefree attitude. And so on for every successful movie. BoP just drops whatever they found interesting about SS Harley.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 00:54:02 No.113007305 Report

Quoted By: >>113007346 >>113008413

>>113006350
And Ladderbro just keeps on winning

On the plus side this is probably good news for Wonder Woman but bad news for Batman

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 00:56:24 No.113007346 Report

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>>113007305
I'm pretty sure Le Batman will not top Joker or break a billion which will be seen as a relative failure
the only Batman movie without Joker that did well was TDKR, and because of the Joker on the movie prior of course

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 00:57:00 No.113007361 Report

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>>113007250
That looked like felicity from arrow for a sec

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 00:58:33 No.113007385 Report

Quoted By: >>113007724

>>113007250
Normalfags gave a shit about Harley because she was paired with the hot Joker. Now Harley is a frumpy aunt and Joker has a new girlfriend.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 01:00:39 No.113007415 Report

Quoted By: >>113007687 >>113012711 >>113015377 >>113015489

>>113006630
The problem with DC film-wise is that they don't really have a person like Feige that shoulders the weight and keeps production organized and structured so you get shit like Flash going through a million directors, or announcing movies that never happen. Marvel has had ONE film cancellation in ten years and I want to say the only delayed films were Black Panther and Captain Marvel because they still weren't sure what to do with them and then meanwhile what DC movie gets finished seems to be decided by throwing darts at the wall and hoping it hits someone that can stick to deadlines.

And that person SHOULD have been Johns, at least as far as creatively mapping the movieverse out the way Feige does, but I honest to god could not fucking Johns actually did when he was around except get pushed around by higher up executives. It probably helped that Marvel was its own studio while DC has to tow the WB line and WB is the same goddamn fucking mess of a studio they've been for decades now.

>>113007256
I think this movie was marketed wrong in that they just straight up ignored every sidecharacter in the marketing and by all accounts Huntress seems to be the best character in the movie but you wouldn't even fucking know she's in the movie for more than two scenes where she doesn't even talk going by the trailers that barely feature anyone but Harley. Its an ensemble movie that's not marketing that ensemble and that's a huge mistake.

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 01:01:02 No.113007422 Report

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>>113006896
she got the GAYS

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 01:03:31 No.113007461 Report

Quoted By: >>113007640 >>113007645 >>113007805 >>113014843

>>113006350
Eh, it was a cheaper movie right? If people like it it could still have enough legs to make a profit I don't think it has much competition coming up - though I am glad that not many people will see what they did to Cass.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 01:03:53 No.113007469 Report

Quoted By: >>113007712 >>113014233

>>113006405
As BP and CM show, shitters whining about SJWs on the internet doesn't translate into any kind of impact on sales. Both those films angered the same demographic that got their panties in a twist about this one, and did so at least ten times more severely, but in end they were successful.

It comes down to whether, at a glance, people find the characters and concept appealing. In this case, they didn't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 01:10:40 No.113007594 Report

Quoted By: >>113008352

>>113006896
CISHET? Are they making up words again?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 01:13:18 No.113007640 Report

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>>113007461
It needs 275 to break even

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 01:13:25 No.113007645 Report

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>>113007461
>Sonic
>Onward
>Fantasy Island
>Emma
>The Invisible Man
>Bloodshot
>Quiet Place 2
It's dead

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 01:15:07 No.113007674 Report

Quoted By: >>113014843

I mean, the feminist cred falls through the floor considering what they did to Cassandra. No comic fan was going to come out of this saying "it's a great adaptation!"

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 01:15:48 No.113007687 Report

Quoted By: >>113008096 >>113014843

>>113007415
>And that person SHOULD have been Johns, at least as far as creatively mapping the movieverse out the way Feige does, but I honest to god could not fucking Johns actually did when he was around except get pushed around by higher up executives.

Whether it's Didio or faceless, nameless execs, fans keep portraying Johns as some poor hapless cog who is somehow never responsible for anything despite being the head writer/executive producer/CCO there for over a decade. But no one's actually cited hard proof that this is the case, just insisting he couldn't have done anything (even though the grim and gritty tone matches up with a lot of his comics output).

Johns doesn't have the organizational skill to be like Feige. Johns is a popular choice only because his nostalgic vision matches that of very narrow group of comics fans, but most of the rest of the world isn't interested in.

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 01:17:14 No.113007712 Report

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>>113007469
Probably should have used some characters from the comics instead of making new ones and slapping existing names on them. I feel bad for real Birds of Prey fans

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 01:18:31 No.113007724 Report

Quoted By: >>113007793

>>113007385
This would be hilarious.

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 01:20:11 No.113007752 Report

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>>113007060
Underrated

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 01:22:27 No.113007793 Report

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>>113007724
Well, The Joker really got a new girlfriend. >>113007319

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 01:23:05 No.113007805 Report

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>>113007461
It's a cheaper movie but that doesn't mean it still can't flop if not enough people see it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 01:24:18 No.113007835 Report

Quoted By: >>113007883

>>113007793
Yeah, I'm hyped about her! There's an absurd amount of detail and intentional "wrongness" in her character design that just fits the joker theme awesomely and it works without needing anything from Joker's own character or style. I'm a little hesitant to trust DC right now but this could turn out awesome.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 01:27:38 No.113007883 Report

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>>113007835
tumblr is incredibly buttmad about her already.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 01:29:22 No.113007921 Report

Quoted By: >>113007973

>>113006405
>alienating your target demographic
>trying to target people that don't give two shits about comics
What on earth makes you think comic book readers make up any sort of significant box office numbers? Are you delusional?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 01:30:35 No.113007945 Report

Quoted By: >>113008020

Imagine the arrogance of taking Harley Quinn, some of the Birds of Prey, AND Cassandra Cain, and not bothering to adapt ANY existing story with them.

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 01:31:37 No.113007973 Report

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>>113007921
He meant horny men. And they're a crucial demographic.

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 01:33:09 No.113008003 Report

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>>113006967
Well, except Joker. But you still have a point. Lego 2, IT 2, Detective Pikachu, Doctor Sleep, Goldfinch, The Kitchen, Shaft and maybe Shazam. All of those films came in WAY below expectations. Something's gotta give.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 01:34:36 No.113008020 Report

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>>113007945
It's not important.

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 01:35:01 No.113008027 Report

Quoted By: >>113011023 >>113016115

>>113006798
Mark even did a voice over for their brief Joker scene.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 01:37:40 No.113008079 Report

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>>113008003
>except Joker
And that was mostly because of all the controversy surrounding it

ONE out of like 32 movies last year and they're STILL using this strategy. I hope people aren't expecting Dune or Wonder Woman to make money

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 01:37:57 No.113008090 Report

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Is he right bros?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 01:38:29 No.113008096 Report

Quoted By: >>113008119 >>113008775 >>113008866 >>113016589

>>113007687
Johns had minor story input since a lot of the films are adaptations of his run but the execs certainly loomed over each movie making changes and cuts as they saw fit after he did shit on the scripting level and then they fucked around during filming and editing. Personally I go with Johns for picking what movies get made in what order, and the story-aspects though because his works tend to be best suited for mass audiences. They're easily digestible, and nearly every run he's had has been a character defining best seller and critical success. Flash, Green Lantern, Aquaman, Teen Titans (Because as shit as it is what happened to the YJ kids his run still did all of those things), JSA, Hawkman. He's easily the most marketable writer DC has with his only real sales dud being his works with Barry Allen. He also knows the DC universe arguably better than anyone that isn't Morrison. But I really think Johns should just handle crafting a workable guideline for them to work with someone with far more production experience should be in charge of the other details but it has to be someone actively dedicated to making this work. That's the reason the MCU actually took off in the end. Because of Feige.

But hey lets at least look at the movies that DC has announced and were cancelled, never brought up again, or have had no progress since this DCEU started
>Justice League Part 2
>Cyborg
>Justice League Dark
>Batgirl
>Green Lantern Corps
>The Flash: Flashpoint
>Supergirl
>Harley Quinn
>Joker (Leto)
>Harley/Joker team up film
>Gotham City Sirens
>Nightwing
>The Trench
>Deadshot
>Deathstroke

And I feel like I'm probably missing a good chunk too. Black Adam and the Batman could still probably go in there as far as I'm concerned since casting is pretty meaningless.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 01:39:50 No.113008119 Report

Quoted By: >>113008221

>>113008096
>Harley Quinn
>Gotham City Sirens
These two became this movie

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 01:40:46 No.113008135 Report

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>>113006350
Good. No DC fans here wanted this to be a hit

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 01:40:55 No.113008137 Report

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>>113008090
yeah, Harley delivers while Joker was just pretending.

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 01:41:20 No.113008148 Report

Quoted By: >>113008184

>>113008079
>I hope people aren't expecting Dune or Wonder Woman to make money
Dune is definitely going to flop.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 01:41:54 No.113008162 Report

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>>113006448
Her Huntress was actually good. I feel bad that she was in this shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 01:43:03 No.113008184 Report

Quoted By: >>113008287

>>113008148
Unless there's a controversy that spans months to keep a movie in public consciousness they're all going to flop because WB has decided one trailer 6 months out and then absolute silence until two or three weeks before release is a winning strategy

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 01:45:12 No.113008221 Report

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>>113008119
No. WB still has plans for both of those. Or at least they claim to. Sirens will be another film Robbie's talked about it a bit and how they just wnated to squeeze this in first.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 01:45:19 No.113008222 Report

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>>113006596
This. If they adapted Mad Love for Valentine's day they would be making 700mil at least. Maybe not this year though since Joker just came out

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 01:47:06 No.113008257 Report

Quoted By: >>113011256

>>113006510
but captain marvel box office was like a third of what endgame did
clearly no one cared

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 01:47:09 No.113008258 Report

Quoted By: >>113008276

>>113006630
Not at all. Sony and Paramount are much worse

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 01:47:25 No.113008263 Report

Quoted By: >>113008290 >>113008344 >>113008776 >>113009865 >>113009912

>>113006350
They're blaming it on being rated R.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 01:48:21 No.113008276 Report

Quoted By: >>113008524

>>113008258
Not even close to being true

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 01:49:02 No.113008287 Report

Quoted By: >>113008322 >>113008360

>>113008184
>because WB has decided one trailer 6 months out and then absolute silence until two or three weeks before release is a winning strategy
BoP was even worse. The first trailer came out in October. Around FOUR months before release.
WB was also flat out retarded for not buying a Super Bowl Pre-Game ad for it. I mean, I know they don't really do that (haven't bought an ad in years) but the film was gonna be out 4 fucking days after it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 01:49:23 No.113008290 Report

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>>113008263
Makes sense most people who like Harley are too young to see this movie and WB would NEVER blame their terrible new marketing tactic

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 01:49:35 No.113008293 Report

Quoted By:

>>113006644
Shazam would have done better if it was moved to another spot in the year. BoP has no excuse

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 01:50:53 No.113008311 Report

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>>113007883
That's also a good sign!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 01:51:13 No.113008322 Report

Quoted By: >>113008412

>>113008287
Absolutely and then they kept the embargo until two days ago and never released a redband trailer to let everyone know it wasn't for kids

It's amazing how incompetent they are

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 01:51:14 No.113008324 Report

Quoted By: >>113008412

>>113008079
They changed their marketing team about 2 years ago and ever since they've been fucking up left and right.

They either don't promote their films until its too late or they don't propertly target the right audience with the trailers.

BoP (whatever you think of the finished product, I thought it was 'fine') looked like absolute shit in the trailers. They weren't selling that movie to any demographic and as a result, it's not gonna make any money for the studio.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 01:51:54 No.113008335 Report

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>>113006448
It's the drug addict Billie Eilish tranny core look you intolerant plebian boomer.

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 01:52:24 No.113008344 Report

Quoted By: >>113008391

>>113008263
>They're blaming it on being rated R.
There's literally no excuse for that these days

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 01:52:52 No.113008352 Report

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>>113007594
That's a fake article

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 01:53:17 No.113008360 Report

Quoted By: >>113008411

>>113008287
Shazam was another failure. THey had a teaser at Comic Con and then pretty much nothing in terms of new footage until like 6 weeks before it came out.

That mixed with it being stuck between CM and Endgame killed it.

Then they blew DP and Godzilla the next month.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 01:53:43 No.113008368 Report

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>>113006644
Why didn't Mary Marvel just stay the same actor when she transformed? Regular actor was hotter than super hero version.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 01:54:43 No.113008391 Report

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>>113008344
It's how these studio execs operate. odds are Venom 2 is going to be PG-13 and WB is going to butcher Gunn's Suicide Squad just like Ayer's because of this

Also that DC Black Label is probably over

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 01:55:06 No.113008403 Report

Quoted By: >>113008591

>>113008090
>movie bob
the fuck out

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 01:55:42 No.113008411 Report

Quoted By: >>113008483

>>113008360
>Then they blew DP and Godzilla the next month.
Fuck I actually forgot about Godzilla when I was making the post. That's ANOTHER disappointment for WB.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 01:55:42 No.113008412 Report

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>>113008322
>Absolutely and then they kept the embargo until two days ago
Which was highly retarded because the reviews were GOOD.
>>113008324
>BoP (whatever you think of the finished product, I thought it was 'fine') looked like absolute shit in the trailers. They weren't selling that movie to any demographic and as a result, it's not gonna make any money for the studio.
And this. One thing that's bothered me is how often they've changed what they call the film in marketing. Harley Quinn in Birds of Prey, just Birds of Prey, Harley Quinn: Birds of Prey, Birds of Prey and the Fantabulous Emancipation of Harley Quinn. Pick a title because its just going to confuse people.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 01:55:49 No.113008413 Report

Quoted By: >>113008468

>>113007305
And he'll be seething again in a couple of days when Joker gets those Oscars

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 01:56:41 No.113008435 Report

Quoted By: >>113008591

>>113008090
Bob is a faggot who wouldn't dare badmouth a female driven film like this

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 01:58:05 No.113008463 Report

Quoted By: >>113008493

>>113008079
Wonder Woman will make money. It got the opposite of BoP where people responded positively to the trailer

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 01:58:26 No.113008468 Report

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>>113008413
Yeah all two of them which still puts Based Marvel in the lead

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 01:58:50 No.113008483 Report

Quoted By: >>113008525 >>113008575 >>113009035

>>113008411
Godzilla felt like they were cutting their losses though. Toho isn't exactly keeping it a secret that they plan to cut ties with WB and Legendary and make a new era for their own Godzilla movies. Detective Pikachu however was a huge botch. That's like BOP too in that they didn't know their audience. That movie is essentially a kids movie from start to finish but they were marketing it as a comedy aimed at older fans. And it wasn't a pure comedy either like the trailers pushed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 01:59:11 No.113008487 Report

Quoted By: >>113008523 >>113008529

>>113007250
Did they not want to pay Leto?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 01:59:30 No.113008493 Report

Quoted By: >>113008543 >>113008558

>>113008463
Doesn't matter people are going to forget all about it over the next few months of absolute silence

Probably won't even see another trailer until SDCC

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 02:00:33 No.113008523 Report

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>>113008487
This was so retarded. Separating DCEU Harley from that Joker has been idiotic, people cared about that shit but Margot and the rest of those dumbasses didn't want to see.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 02:00:38 No.113008524 Report

Quoted By: >>113008605

>>113008276
Yes it is. Paramount has had nothing but big budget flops lately

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 02:00:41 No.113008525 Report

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>>113008483
Detective Pikachu was barely even marketed by WB most of it was done by Reynolds kind of like how most of Birds of Prey's was being done by Robbie

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 02:00:50 No.113008529 Report

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>>113008487
Leto was pissed about the Joker movie not being his, and he was pissed that they cut so much of his Suicide Squad screen time.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 02:01:08 No.113008535 Report

Quoted By: >>113008560 >>113008564

how do you even manage to fuck up with Batman related characters?
>have criminal mastermind with a colorful outfit and severe psychosis
>have autistic ninja vigilante with a cool costume and a justice boner
>hero fights villain while random gotham civilians die horrible deaths
it literally works with any batcharacter, they could have had Huntress hunt down mafia guys for the entire movie and it would have been much much better

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 02:01:45 No.113008543 Report

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>>113008493
Wonder Woman also appeared during the Super Bowl in front of 100+ million people, so awareness is high.

They just need to remember to release a trailer in say March instead of waiting until May for Trailer 2.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 02:02:46 No.113008558 Report

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>>113008493
oh and WW comes out June 5th, before CC

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 02:02:51 No.113008560 Report

Quoted By: >>113008589 >>113008664

>>113008535
Maybe people are finally getting tired of Batshit?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 02:03:03 No.113008564 Report

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>>113008535
>it literally works with any batcharacter, they could have had Huntress hunt down mafia guys for the entire movie and it would have been much much better
From what I understand that's kind of what she does. Huntress is supposed to be very accurate to her early days and she's just a badass female Punisher.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 02:03:24 No.113008575 Report

Quoted By: >>113008622 >>113010360

>>113008483
>Godzilla felt like they were cutting their losses though.
They still have Godzilla vs Kong coming up, doubt it'll do well either.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 02:04:04 No.113008589 Report

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>>113008560
What Batshit? He hasn't had a proper movie in a long time now.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 02:04:05 No.113008591 Report

Quoted By: >>113008731 >>113008991 >>113009117 >>113016392

>>113008403
>>113008435
Don't plan to see the movie but when I see shit like pic-related I can't take the RottonTomatoes score seriously.

Makes it seem like one of those movies where the critics HAVE to like it because they see everything as a fucking culture war and rate according to that rather than the actual fucking quality of the movie.

>"10/10 it's feminist."

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 02:04:21 No.113008595 Report

Quoted By: >>113009001

So Leto's Joker isn't in the movie at all?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 02:04:40 No.113008605 Report

Quoted By: >>113008718 >>113008757 >>113009001

>>113008524
For every Terminator Dark Fate or Gemini Man there's a Mission Impossible or Rocketman and this year they have Top Gun, Sonic, A Quiet Place 2, Spongebob, and Halloween 2... again... for like the fifth time

WB has nothing on that level

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 02:04:55 No.113008609 Report

Quoted By:

>>113006405
B-but it worked when Marvel did it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 02:05:40 No.113008622 Report

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>>113008575
They did reshoots but honestly I don't think they really give a shit. The Monsterverse is going to die with that movie regardless of how much it makes.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 02:07:44 No.113008664 Report

Quoted By: >>113009882

>>113008560
>the most successful R-rated movie ever just a couple months ago
I don't think batshit is the problem here buddy

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 02:10:58 No.113008718 Report

Quoted By: >>113014882

>>113008605
Sonic's gonna bomb hard and never make its money back, A Quiet Place 2 and Halloween 2020 will do a decent enough but nothing massive, I feel like Spongebob being a CGI film will not go over well, and that really just leaves them with Top Gun which I personally thing look like absolute shit but I'm sure people are going to go see it anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 02:10:58 No.113008719 Report

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>>113008090
He's almost never right, and the few times he is right, it's for the wrong reason.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 02:11:46 No.113008731 Report

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>>113008591
9/10 actually
But Bob is a fucking simp who would give anything that is easy to consoom, fits his politics, and make him horny at least an 8.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 02:13:33 No.113008757 Report

Quoted By: >>113008786

>>113008605
WB has Wonder Woman 84, Tenet, The Conjuring 3

& we'll see about Dune and Godzilla v Kong.

Paramount are the kings at failure, ever since they ran Transformers into the ground.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 02:14:31 No.113008775 Report

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>>113008096
>Johns had minor story input

See, I remember articles like these: https://www.vulture.com/2016/05/geoff-johns-dc-films.html
that hyped him up as being even more in control than Feige or Loeb.

>nearly every run he's had has been a character defining best seller and critical success.
>He's easily the most marketable writer DC has

Only for the tiny pond that is superhero comics, which a large part of it is the aging, biased fans he panders to. His nostalgic revisionism is his biggest appeal for those fans, something that general audiences are not going to give a shit about.

His knowledge of the DC Universe is a fanboy's one, meaning he's unable to think outside his own personal tastes. Feige, for all his problems, is willing to venture outside common fanboy wisdom for characters and stories (after all, Iron Man used to be an unpopular, B-list character before the movies, and the Guardians of the Galaxy were very obscure).

There's a lot more that goes into managing a studio than dedication and fanboy knowledge. The larger problem is that Johns only really has one mode - extremely dumb and violent sub-Michael Bay action. All Johns knows is superhero comics and nothing else (he's never written much, if anything, outside of that). Even though the MCU has a kind of house filmmaking style, Feige does let the movies wander outside of the genre and its conventions (GotG's use of music, Winter Soldier dipping into conspiracy thrillers, the use of the heist genre).

I mean, I think about how bad and horribly managed Infinite Crisis and his Teen Titans runs were, and I just can't see him handling a whole cinematic universe. People hated how grim and stupid of Man of Steel and Batman v. Superman, why would they like the even more something like the miserable tone and stupid stuff of Infinite Crisis or Blackest Night?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 02:14:35 No.113008776 Report

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>>113008263
For once, yeah, that has a lot to do with it. It's like if a Pokemon movie in the 90's was R. None of the people who would want to see it would be old enough to.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 02:15:02 No.113008786 Report

Quoted By: >>113008885

>>113008757
>Tenet, The Conjuring 3
... I wouldn't bet money on those if I were you

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 02:15:59 No.113008802 Report

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>>113006350
Girlpowersisters... we got too pussy...

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 02:16:07 No.113008803 Report

Quoted By: >>113008824 >>113008842

>>113008090
This guy is so butthurt over Joker being a hit, oh my god

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 02:17:07 No.113008824 Report

Quoted By: >>113008842 >>113009026

>>113008803
You got that right.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 02:18:16 No.113008842 Report

Quoted By: >>113009026

>>113008803
>>113008824

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 02:19:53 No.113008866 Report

Quoted By: >>113008949

>>113008096
>Justice League Part 2
Dead obviously
>Cyborg
Dead
>Justice League Dark
Dead (Guillermo :_:)
>Batgirl
Not completely out of there, let's see how The Batman does
>Green Lantern Corps
I don't think this is dead
>The Flash: Flashpoint
Still happening, but probably not Flashpoint
>Supergirl
Dead
>Harley Quinn
Dead
>Joker (Leto)
2000 feet under
>Harley/Joker team up film
>Gotham City Sirens
After this film, 100% dead
>Nightwing
Again, let's see how The Batman does
>The Trench
Not dead but definitely no movement
>Deadshot
After Gunn's reboot, dead
>Deathstroke
Dead

Man big oof. I remember when they had that string of announcing new project after project and wondering if those were going to happen but DC fanboys were just telling to me shut up and that they know what they're doing

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 02:20:47 No.113008885 Report

Quoted By: >>113008965

>>113008786
I want to say Nolan is always a steady performer but honestly time travel can be a hard sale for some people, and the budget is pretty bloated. Conjuring 3 should do just fine though since those movies always draw in the seacows.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 02:24:25 No.113008949 Report

Quoted By: >>113008970

>>113008866
>Still happening, but probably not Flashpoint
At this point I doubt it will ever actually get made. They can't hold on to a creative team for more than a few go-nowhere months.
>Again, let's see how The Batman does
Nah Nightwing is dead because we're young Batman again which means if Dick is anything he's going to be Robin.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 02:25:21 No.113008965 Report

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>>113008885
>those movies always draw in the seacows.
La llorona and Annabelle Comes home sure didn't

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 02:25:27 No.113008967 Report

Quoted By: >>113009002 >>113009006 >>113018054

Anyone here seen it? I've only seen critic reviews, and those aren't worth shit anymore

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 02:25:36 No.113008970 Report

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>>113008949
And boy I did forget one. Don't let me forget
>Booster Gold

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 02:27:01 No.113008991 Report

Quoted By: >>113016337

>>113008591
You know, as one of these "people of color" that they refer to a lot, I'm really getting fucking annoyed at these people always saying "this movie has people of color in it, that means it's good"

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 02:27:14 No.113008995 Report

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>>113008090
How is this guy still relevant? He's had nothing but bad takes for nearly a decade.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 02:27:37 No.113009001 Report

Quoted By: >>113009032

>>113008595
If WB could, they'd go to every copy of SS and pretend he never existed

>>113008605
Pretty sure Sonic if flopping. Not doing as bad as this, but it's not going to do well at all

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 02:27:41 No.113009002 Report

Quoted By: >>113009055 >>113009085

>>113008967
Some anons have seen it and they've ranged from "Its good" to "Its okay" to "IT SUCKS" Huntress is typically spotlighted as being an agreed upon best girl, and the word on Normiebook's DC pages range from REEEing out about SJW to people genuinely admitting they were surprised that it was good and that the trailers didn't do it any justice because they were expecting it to suck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 02:27:50 No.113009006 Report

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>>113008967
It's fine not the worst thing in the world but it's not that great either

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 02:29:05 No.113009026 Report

Quoted By: >>113009155 >>113009183

>>113008824
>>113008842
why is movieblob so butthurt about Joker anyways?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 02:29:33 No.113009032 Report

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>>113009001
Sonic could do well and it will still be a flop because it had to redo all of its CGI and effects, and change out/reprint marketing material. PLUS recut trailers, TV spots, foreign materials, etc. It will be a total wash no matter what.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 02:29:46 No.113009035 Report

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>>113008483
It pisses me off how much they screwed up DetPika. Honestly, it wasn't even that bad, however the financial take was a wash and it's 100% the marketing's fault for misaiming the movie.

It was an okay movie but this was THE Pokemon movie. So much talk was around it forming a whole new cinematic universe and it's all gone now. Damn thing couldn't even beat Warcraft!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 02:29:46 No.113009036 Report

Quoted By: >>113009079

>>113006798
This show was the first instance I heard of Pennyworth as Alfred's last name. Did it originate here?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 02:30:10 No.113009045 Report

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>>113006405
And just like that the thread ends. First Post Best Post True Toast

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 02:30:48 No.113009054 Report

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>>113006350
uh oh, stinky

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 02:30:50 No.113009055 Report

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>>113009002
Also a lot of people on facebook are spotlightning the action scenes and talking about how hiring the John Wick crew to do them was a good move on WB's part.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 02:31:50 No.113009073 Report

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>>113006644
Man, that was a good movie, this thread is a Shazam thread now

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 02:32:21 No.113009079 Report

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>>113009036
No. Originally his name was Alfred Beagle but at some point Bill Finger changed it in the early days.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 02:32:30 No.113009085 Report

Quoted By: >>113009099

>>113009002
Please tell me they kept the gay dick pic plot twist.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 02:32:39 No.113009089 Report

Quoted By: >>113009124

>>113006452
It only worked because Disney has conditioned their fans to watch anything that connects to the movies they actually want to see, whether it’s good or not.
The MCU has perfected the “See product, consume product” philosophy by convincing people that they need everything to enjoy one thing.
Warner Brothers doesn’t have a base to even consider doing that, so it doesn’t work.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 02:33:17 No.113009099 Report

Quoted By: >>113009124

>>113009085
Nope

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 02:34:25 No.113009117 Report

Quoted By: >>113009150

>>113008591
fucking this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ikc_uZw2mqo

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 02:34:44 No.113009124 Report

Quoted By: >>113009230

>>113009089
>Warner Brothers doesn’t have a base to even consider doing that, so it doesn’t work.
And the sad thing is that they could have if thy had focused on building up their universe instead of making movies to advertise the next movie.

>>113009099
And so, the one thing that would have gotten me to watch this is now gone.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 02:35:46 No.113009148 Report

Quoted By:

Blame it on Harley Quinn's adaptation, the fact is that everything in the letoverse is shit, not just joker. The aesthetic is drab, and the whole quirky bipolar schtick gets old fast. This movie is a "ladies night out" kind of movie except the type of women who enjoy that stuff aren't going to like comic movies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 02:36:04 No.113009150 Report

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>>113009117
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnRt_JEoBRU
This is always my favorite.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 02:36:14 No.113009155 Report

Quoted By: >>113009334 >>113010399 >>113012741

>>113009026
Moviebob was told it was an evil alt-right incel movie starring a white male so he had to hate it before the movie even came out because everything is a culture war with him.

There is no nuance or shades of grey with him, just black and white "us vs them" thinking. Even if it's something he would normally LOVE if it's deemed to be on "the wrong side" he has to hate it no matter what (pic-related).

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 02:37:25 No.113009174 Report

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>>113006821
>fr*ggin
People like you fucking disgust me

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 02:37:42 No.113009183 Report

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>>113009026
He likely drank the same "incels rise up" Kool-Aid the rest of the news media drank before the movie came out but unlike those who can just pretend they never said that shit or ignore it completely, Bobbo's got a YT channel so he's keeping it up for some reason

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 02:38:14 No.113009195 Report

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>>113006743
Was Hank a lucky guy, or was he trapped in hell?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 02:40:05 No.113009230 Report

Quoted By: >>113009290 >>113009328 >>113009593

>>113009124
The ultimate misstep was Batman vs. Superman. Because Man Of Steel’s reception was mixed, the logical plan would have been to start introducing heroes with less representation following it, such as Wonder Woman and Flash in separate movies ala Iron Man. Once you create a pattern and reaffirm a reputation, then you can get people excited to see these characters from movies you like come together.
Batman vs. Superman blew its wad fast, and in turn made everything about a team up come off as stale and not special. Shoving things in immediately doesn’t allow viewers to look forward to things later. The Disney train began after Avengers 1 because the building blocks were already there, so all they needed to do was regurgitate the same shit but tell the audience that it’s necessary to enjoy Avengers 2/3/4/1,320.

WB wanted the benefits without the work.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 02:43:23 No.113009290 Report

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>>113009230
Indeed.

The same problems were in the Dark Universe but to a much greater degree.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 02:45:45 No.113009328 Report

Quoted By: >>113009401 >>113009505 >>113010725

>>113009230
I disagree. If DC was making engaging ensemble films that are interconnected by a shared universe it would have been fine. You don't need to build up to Justice League just like you don't have to build up to, say, Ocean's 11 or like Little Women I guess. So long as the characters are interesting and the story flows well then how we meet those characters doesn't matter and I think WB/DC's early idea of "This universe is well lived in" was actually a good concept. But they didn't lean hard enough into it, and they wasted time hyping up future films when just telling an engaging story featuring actors that would later appear in other films would have been enough. The problem is they didn't really make engaging films. They made movies that were MCU films, but also NOT MCU films and they had this clear lack of direction and voice.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 02:46:04 No.113009334 Report

Quoted By: >>113009432 >>113012741

>>113009155
>I have to dislike this
you know I thought the whole NPC thing was just a meme but he did outright state he has no free-will...

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 02:46:43 No.113009345 Report

Quoted By: >>113009609

>>113006405
That is working well for the MCU though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 02:48:02 No.113009361 Report

Quoted By: >>113009391

>>113006510
With her demanding RDJ-tier contract, I can easily see her get Rhoded and replaced with someone else.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 02:49:55 No.113009391 Report

Quoted By: >>113009509 >>113009726

>>113009361
>With her demanding RDJ-tier contract
Really?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 02:50:21 No.113009401 Report

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>>113009328
To go into a bit more detail here I feel like DC doing the opposite of Marvel would have been best. Starting with Justice League and the League is already formed and these characters have relationships, and a bond and they each have sidekicks, and minor villains that exist and then you just build this established world where you're not doing origin movies over and over again would have just been great. A lived in world with breath and life that so many films in the past have had except now that worlds scale is ten fold.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 02:52:00 No.113009432 Report

Quoted By: >>113012741

>>113009334
Bob would call you an alt-right Nazi just for using the NPC meme (like I said everything is "us vs them" with the guy).

He would then criticize you for using a meme that "dehumanizes" people despite the fact he dehumanizes half the country like every day. He is completely incapable of self-awareness (like that time he made a video telling gamer's they're too out of shape and need to lose weight... without ONCE bringing up his own obesity).

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 02:56:25 No.113009505 Report

Quoted By: >>113009808

>>113009328
>You don't need to build up to Justice League just like you don't have to build up to, say, Ocean's 11 or like Little Women I guess.

The difference is that in a superhero film every team member needs a LOT more setup. In something like Ocean's 11, you don't need to know everything about the cast, just enough to get a basic idea. In something like the Avengers for example, you can't just go "and then the scientist playboy called up the literal god of thunder to help" without some preexisting context. Bringing in someone like Thor, Superman, Flash, or Ironman brings in a LOT of questions about who they are and how they got whatever powers they have. This creates a need for either preexisting knowledge or for the film to take the time to give them origins. The reason something like the X-men can get away with it is because they all have origins that are connected by them all being mutants. If all the members of the Justice League had connected origins then they could have gotten away with it, but that's a whole other can of worms.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 02:56:48 No.113009509 Report

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>>113009391
Anon, she's the glue that holds the Marvel Cinematic universe together. And she's a woman on top of that! Don't be sexist!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 02:57:07 No.113009517 Report

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>>113006452
No it didnt, disney bought tickets to save face

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 02:57:11 No.113009519 Report

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>>113006448
Everything is wrong with this film, she is able to do long scenes of fight choreography but the fight scenes are pathetic, this film has all the wrong producers

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 02:59:11 No.113009555 Report

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>>113006350

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 03:01:29 No.113009593 Report

Quoted By: >>113010700

>>113009230
People want to see fun movies with beauty people and great action scenes

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 03:02:19 No.113009609 Report

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>>113009345
Nah its not

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 03:08:58 No.113009726 Report

Quoted By: >>113009808

>>113009391
Google it. Several websites are reporting this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 03:15:13 No.113009808 Report

Quoted By: >>113009977 >>113016792

>>113009505
>The difference is that in a superhero film every team member needs a LOT more setup.
Do they REALLY though? These aren't complex concepts anon. You don't need to know everything about Green Lantern's life to make him work as a character. "Space police force" is enough to really make things work. Origin stories aren't really as necessary as these movies have lead people to believe but since that's the direction they all take everyone is basically conditioned at this point. In the comics these stories are simple and they're told in a manner of a few pages in their original works. Some characters I will agree are a tad more complex in their origins, like Thor, but so many are simple concepts that can be explained in the span of like a two minute introductory sequence at the start, like an in-universe report or a simple title sequence that draws out their origins. And you still don't entirely need the context of where they came from because a compelling character is more than their origin. Its their personality, and the way they interact with their world and cast. You don't need a two hour movie to make you like a character, at most you need like 5 minutes.
>>113009726
But she's denied its the real contract, and seeing as other MCU stars have been upfront with their numbers its not like she had to. Sebastian Stan also for example had a 9 movie contract, while her claimed contract is only 7. Which means she's already 2 films down, plus 3 more due to planned cameos and roles we know about. She wouldn't even make it to the next big event movie. The only thing it has going for it is that its a 5 million dollar deal but honestly it's doubtful she earned that much.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 03:18:26 No.113009850 Report

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>>113007250
>Cut 90% of Leto's scenes in SS and ruin his Joker.
>Cut all of Leto's Joker scenes in BOP and turn his Joker into a literal ghost.

It happened again and It's fucking hilarious.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 03:19:48 No.113009865 Report

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>>113008263
>Deadpool

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 03:21:07 No.113009882 Report

Quoted By: >>113009921 >>113010196

>>113008664
Joker literally thrown every comic aspect down the window tho.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 03:23:13 No.113009912 Report

Quoted By: >>113009967

>>113008263
>Deadpool
>Joker
It's actually pretty funny since Harley's kinda mix of the two.
Though for real if they had made it PG-13 they could've gotten a lotta tween/teen girl money.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 03:23:44 No.113009921 Report

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>>113009882
Not really. Its just a movie where Joker lies about his origin story to a potentially sympathetic ear that he can manipulate. I mean the movie is good but that's a classic Joker trait.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 03:26:40 No.113009967 Report

Quoted By: >>113009992 >>113009993 >>113010117 >>113010241 >>113010361 >>113010829 >>113011294 >>113016691

>>113009912
Would teen girls even care? They are more likely to watch it it had a hot shirtless guy in it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 03:27:28 No.113009977 Report

Quoted By: >>113010044

>>113009808
You bring up some good point, but simply providing a text crawl, or a 2 minuet introduction isn't enough.

What you forget is that something like the Justice League or the Avengers is a crossover, and they always have been. They can't stand on it's own and you can't make that work in a movie.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 03:27:47 No.113009983 Report

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>>113006596
>It's like people forget that the entire focal point of Suicide Squad was The Joker.
I think they tried to repeat that, which is why the commercials say HARLEY QUINN in Birds of Prey. And the title is Birds of Prey and HARLEY QUINN
The problem is that they were banking on the character having draw power she doesn't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 03:28:28 No.113009992 Report

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>>113009967
People like to pretend otherwise but woman really do watch things for the cute guys.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 03:28:30 No.113009993 Report

Quoted By: >>113010065

>>113009967
What do you think Black Mask is for other than to be the "men bad" straw man?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 03:32:15 No.113010044 Report

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>>113009977
>They can't stand on it's own and you can't make that work in a movie.
Sure they can. Comics make it work just fine. How much greater context do you need to understand, say, JLA's first arc featuring The Hyperclan? If you were to hand that story to someone they'd understand it just fine without having to read 7 other books first because that greater context is not as necessary as people like to think.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 03:33:18 No.113010065 Report

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>>113009993
Not shirtless and being sexualize for one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 03:36:30 No.113010117 Report

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>>113009967
Girls like to project themselves on heroines as much as anyone else but you are right cute boys help a lot.
Like in Wonder Woman sure girls like Diana but having Chris Pine being a dreamy boyfriend helped a lot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 03:39:42 No.113010171 Report

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>>113006350
I am so tired of this shitty shill movie threads.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 03:41:15 No.113010196 Report

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>>113009882
Good because comic Joker is shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 03:43:46 No.113010241 Report

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>>113009967
If you have several hot guys vying for the attention of one girl that all of them can self-insert with then yeah it's going to be popular.

If you just have the hot guy then you'll only get the mom audience. if you only have hot guys and the women aren't important then you'll get a few Fujoshits and angry feminists who didn't see it anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 03:48:30 No.113010302 Report

Quoted By: >>113010906

>>113006448
She farts like a beast apparently. The biggest fart recorded for Swiss Army Man was hers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 03:52:49 No.113010360 Report

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>>113008575
The guy who directed Kong is a SJW chode who went crazy at any criticism received for the movie and the guy who directed Godzilla 2 is a pedo sympathizer (a close friend of Bryan Singer)

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 03:52:52 No.113010361 Report

Quoted By: >>113010788 >>113010965 >>113012741 >>113016475

>>113009967
Meanwhile the men have nothing

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 03:56:23 No.113010399 Report

Quoted By: >>113010664

>>113009155
So why does he have to hate it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 04:01:20 No.113010460 Report

Quoted By: >>113010664

>>113008090
Did he cry when all the other lead female movies fail? He seems like a person who would start acting like a baby when the new Terminator flopped.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 04:14:56 No.113010664 Report

Quoted By: >>113010708 >>113010749 >>113011502 >>113012741 >>113014629 >>113014638 >>113016439

>>113010399
If you're asking why Moviebob has to hate Space Force it's because ORANGE MAN BAD. Space Force was created thanks to Trump and in Bob's mind anything even remotely connected to the Orange Man HAS to be bad.

It's all the more funny if you know Bob since he's famous for sperging out about how he would be flying around in spaceships right now if this superior future hadn't been stolen from him by those evil Trump supporters (pic-related).

>>113010460
I know at least for Star Wars he's been insisting that it made a ton of money (ignoring how Disney's mishandling of the franchise has lead to a huge drop off at the box office in the newer films compared to The Force Awakens, as well as the slumping merchandise sales). Other then that I think he just tries to ignore any facts that aren't convenient to him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 04:17:44 No.113010700 Report

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>>113009593
>Great action scenes
But they go to MCU movies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 04:18:35 No.113010708 Report

Quoted By: >>113010932

>>113010664
>I EARNED
...seriously?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 04:20:02 No.113010725 Report

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>>113009328
The fact is when you interconnect those characters that fast there isn’t a way to actually allow them to feel like legends coming together. The urgency of their team ups is lost because it happens so early and so fast. These are some of the most powerful and iconic superheroes ever, so they feel smaller when you sidestep their focus so early. I personally don’t think that approach was ever going to gel.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 04:22:32 No.113010749 Report

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>>113010664
Nothing annoys me more when fat fucks who didn’t do shit think they earned something.
How’d you earn that future exactly? By eating Doritos and bitching on Twitter.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 04:26:05 No.113010788 Report

Quoted By: >>113010795 >>113010882 >>113010977 >>113011028 >>113011459

>>113010361
>nothing

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 04:26:47 No.113010795 Report

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>>113010788
>supporting a domestic abuser

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 04:27:35 No.113010801 Report

Quoted By: >>113010823

>>113006350
This movie is a betrayal to comics and I hope it does horrible.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 04:29:31 No.113010823 Report

Quoted By: >>113011472 >>113014127

>>113010801
I hate that Black Mask finally gets to the big screen and this is how they do it.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 04:30:03 No.113010829 Report

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>>113009967
girls get all the fanservice these days

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 04:32:15 No.113010854 Report

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>>113006896
So dykes confirmed to have shit taste

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 04:34:30 No.113010882 Report

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>>113010788
Yeahno, she's about to get dumped due to abusing Depp. It's sad, because out of all the capeshit actresses she's literally the prettiest one, and it had to be the one dumbfuck that happened to be an abusive shithead.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 04:35:19 No.113010906 Report

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>>113010302
Nice.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 04:37:15 No.113010929 Report

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Warner Brothers and Universal are really struggling lately, aren't they?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 04:37:23 No.113010932 Report

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>>113010708

Seriously. Movieblob genuinely thinks that shit is owed to him because he contributed to the zeitgeist or something.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 04:39:45 No.113010965 Report

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>>113010361
Fast and the Furious?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 04:40:46 No.113010977 Report

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>>113010788
>breasts are alright
>no hips
>no ass
>no thighs

Keep trying.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 04:44:03 No.113011023 Report

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>>113008027
except it was garbage because somehow they made it so Joker knew she was Batgirl

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 04:44:15 No.113011028 Report

Quoted By: >>113012134

>>113010788
She is a con-artist that attempted to take advantage of the #metoo movement for financial gains.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 04:45:47 No.113011052 Report

Quoted By: >>113011131

>>113006889
No it wasnt, disney shilled out money to stop it from looking like the massive failure it was.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 04:50:57 No.113011121 Report

Quoted By:

>>113006350
>>113006405
Who could have foreseen that changing beloved characters because you think you need to "fix" them would turn out this way?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 04:51:30 No.113011131 Report

Quoted By: >>113011279

>>113011052

If it's that easy, why hasn't WB done the same thing for Birds of Prey?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 05:02:43 No.113011256 Report

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>>113008257
>but captain marvel box office was like a third of what endgame did
Uhh, pal...
>Endgame: $2,797,800,564
>Captain Marvel: $1,128,274,794
40% > 33%

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 05:04:28 No.113011279 Report

Quoted By: >>113011925 >>113014952

>>113011131
WB has morals

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 05:05:57 No.113011294 Report

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>>113009967
It’s so weird to me that he’s Andy from Paris and Rec. I loved that show.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 05:18:31 No.113011431 Report

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>>113006726
After Deadpool and Black Panther, they must have figured they had a shot at big box office.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 05:20:26 No.113011459 Report

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>>113010788
Probably the worst example you could have picked right now

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 05:21:53 No.113011472 Report

Quoted By: >>113014127

>>113010823
>This is Black Mask's first time on screen
>This is Zsasz's first time on screen
>This is Black Canary's first time on screen
>This is Cassie's first time on screen
>This will likely be their only time on screen ever

I hate it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 05:25:18 No.113011502 Report

Quoted By: >>113011548

>>113010664
Movie Bob is the definition of wh*te-knighting puss farming. This is the kind of faggot I would not want to be friends with. He is a literal incel.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 05:29:40 No.113011548 Report

Quoted By: >>113011561

>>113011502
>wh*te-knighting puss farming
Imagine writing this tweet and being completely serious.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 05:30:45 No.113011561 Report

Quoted By: >>113011578

>>113011548

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 05:32:46 No.113011578 Report

Quoted By: >>113011764

>>113011561
Not to sound like I'm shillin for bobby here since he is a faggot but Jesus dude how many of these do you have saved? Feel free to keep posting them

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 05:49:56 No.113011764 Report

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>>113011578
Bob posts cringe-worthy material every single day without fail. The guy is a twitter addict and non-stop source of mockery. Guy has a lolcow thread on Kiwi Farms that's like 2400+ pages of people shitting on him; what I have saved is only a handful of the idiocy he spews out.

It's fascinating, I mean here you have a guy trying to present himself as some superior technocrat genius ubermensch looking down on the superstitious subhumans... then he turns around and praises New Age shit like tarot cards in a desperate attempt to get attention from a random e-thot. Guy has zero principles or conviction in his beliefs outside of what's convenient for himself personally.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 06:03:27 No.113011925 Report

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>>113011279
>WB has morals
>proceeds to give Joker chump change as they don't believe it will be successful
lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 06:05:31 No.113011954 Report

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>>113006350
Dont worry Mexico will save this movie.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 06:06:37 No.113011966 Report

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>>113006350
With any luck this will mean WB will stop this low budget garbage and actually try and sort out their main heroes

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 06:11:11 No.113012019 Report

Quoted By: >>113012079 >>113012167 >>113012186 >>113012919 >>113015847

>>113006350
Can someone that understands this type of thing succinctly try and explain why it's flopping? And I don't mean
>hurr durr get woke go broke
or
>hurr durr people just hate DC
I'm genuinely trying to understand why it's flopping when it seems to have gotten a good reception and be using a fairly well known character and lead actress.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 06:16:12 No.113012070 Report

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BoP bombing is all I want entertainment-wise this year. Please. Please.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 06:16:37 No.113012079 Report

Quoted By: >>113012286 >>113012297

>>113012019
None of those characters are recognizable from their original forms, styles, or personalities. (except maybe Harley) They basically threw a bunch of good female characters in the wood chipper to make a feminist movie.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 06:21:00 No.113012134 Report

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>>113011028
>She is a con-artist that attempted to take advantage of the #metoo movement for financial gains.
Based?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 06:22:49 No.113012167 Report

Quoted By: >>113012286

>>113012019
Butchered the source material. That ain't Harley. That ain't the Birds of Prey. That's not Huntress, Black Mask, Cassandra Cain, or The Question. I'm not saying that actual hardcore comic readers are a key demographic, but there's a lot of more mainstream demographics that have at least some casual knowledge of the characters. Making a movie with less popular characters AND going out of your way to completely fuck the characters up, to the point of making several of them "in name only" renditions? That's just dumb. You're killing the chance of positive word of mouth in the cradle.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 06:24:17 No.113012186 Report

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>>113012019
Poorly marketed. RT and all that crap doesn't mean anything. A good trailer will help your film more than any critic score.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 06:34:06 No.113012286 Report

Quoted By: >>113012333 >>113012496 >>113012592 >>113013502

>>113012167
>>113012079

who other than comic book geeks care about the source material? certainly not the mainstream audience that dwarfs the geek audience.

maybe it's time you get it through your heads that people are getting sick of grim and desaturated comic book movies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 06:34:45 No.113012297 Report

Quoted By: >>113013512

>>113012079
>except maybe Harley
Suicide Squad Harley was pretty different from the book version. The fact that the book version got changed to be more like that Harley is one of the big reasons why /co/ was dreading this movie. /co/ likes several of the characters fucked up in it, and doesn't want them changed to get "mainstream appeal."

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 06:37:46 No.113012333 Report

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>>113012286
>people are getting sick of grim and desaturated comic book movies
This is what I feel was its undoing far moreso than not being true to the comics. Nothing in the trailers actually makes it look or feel like a comicbook movie.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 06:41:50 No.113012381 Report

Quoted By: >>113012398

imagine thinking that Joker would've made 1b without the name carrying the movie.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 06:43:01 No.113012398 Report

Quoted By:

>>113012381
Who said that?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 06:52:21 No.113012496 Report

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>>113012286
>who other than comic book geeks care about the source material?

Fucking nobody, which is why BoP is flopping. Normies like Marvel style cape movies, not this shit, and the geeks aren't interested when you piss on the characters they love.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 06:58:37 No.113012571 Report

Quoted By: >>113012610 >>113012720

>>113006584
people don't buy tickets in advance, they buy them when they get to the theater, or just an hour before

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 07:00:18 No.113012592 Report

Quoted By: >>113015862

>>113012286
>who other than comic book geeks care about the source material?

I specifically said that comic book geeks are a small demographic, but people with at least passing knowledge of the characters is a bigger one. Throw together people who've read a few books, people who watched the DCAU cartoons, and people who played the various games? There's a good number of people who had some basic knowledge of at least a few of these characters, at least enough to know that something here wasn't right.

Harley is best known for being Joker's abused girlfriend. It's what her most well-regarded stories were about. I just don't buy that there's a significant demographic of people that wanted to see her in a movie all about her getting away from him and reclaiming her own life, emancipation, woo, eat pray love, etc.

For the life of me I don't understand why DC keeps thinking "take lesser known characters, and adapt them in a way that has nothing to do with the material that made them popular in the first place" is a good idea. Treat comics like market research. Comic fans might not be a huge group of people, but how the fuck does it make sense to go "ah, this book sold relatively well by comic standards. Let's adapt it, but change everything in it!"

If you're taking a bunch of B and C list characters and making a movie about them, not even getting comic fans excited about it is cutting off one of the few things you could have built on beforehand.

Doesn't help that the movie takes a whole slew of characters that collectively had lots of sex appeal, and neutering the fuck out of that. I've rarely seen more unappealing designs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 07:02:10 No.113012610 Report

Quoted By: >>113012720

>>113012571
Verifiably untrue for opening night and day. Driving to a theater on opening day without a pre-bought ticket, for a popular movie? That's a good way to waste a drive.

You can only get away with that with unpopular movies. Like Birds of Prey!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 07:08:29 No.113012699 Report

Quoted By: >>113013508

>>113006896
>Gay males will see our movie we don’t need straight males
>Gay men don’t support birds of prey because they don’t like being demonized
Who didn’t see this coming?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 07:09:28 No.113012711 Report

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>>113007415
>It probably helped that Marvel was its own studio while DC has to tow the WB line
This this this this this.
It's never going to change though. Time Warner's dysfunction is epic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 07:09:58 No.113012717 Report

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>>113008090
>Movie blob still ass blasted that joker made a bigger profit than endgame
Does he think Disney will hire him?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 07:10:19 No.113012720 Report

Quoted By: >>113016959

>>113012571
>>113012610
I just checked how sales are going for Sonic and this really sums up the fanbase to me. Not only is he so autistic that he's going alone but with an empty theater he booked the front row.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 07:12:26 No.113012741 Report

Quoted By: >>113012815 >>113012837 >>113014806

>>113009155
>>113009334
>>113009432
>>113010361
>>113010664
Fuck off /pol/

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 07:14:41 No.113012762 Report

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Anyone that says DCfags are the ones propagating company wars is absolutely full of shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 07:15:40 No.113012770 Report

Quoted By: >>113012804 >>113012857

The only reason they would do that to Cass is out of spite for her fans. I hope the film bombs so hard it bankrupts whoever’s idea that was. Actively deciding to puss your potential target audience off is a dumbass move.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 07:16:41 No.113012784 Report

Quoted By:

I blame Marvelbro for all these DC films sucking.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 07:18:53 No.113012804 Report

Quoted By: >>113012817 >>113013526

>>113012770
>The only reason they would do that to Cass is out of spite for her fans.
You think Didio has any influence on the films?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 07:19:49 No.113012815 Report

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>>113012741
>he thinks laughing at Bob is unique to /pol/
Lol at this point even a bunch of people on the left are hating on Bob. Shitting on Bob is not a political statement.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 07:19:53 No.113012817 Report

Quoted By:

>>113012804
I do now

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 07:21:55 No.113012837 Report

Quoted By:

>>113012741
kill yourself nigger

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 07:23:39 No.113012857 Report

Quoted By: >>113012885 >>113012904

>>113012770
Never assume spite when indifference is possible.

They wanted a diverse cast, and told the director "well we have an Asian girl with speech problems in the Bat-books, use her." The director, not a comics fan, then screeched "I hate the 'quiet Asian woman' stereotype, I want a... a... a streetwise Asian girl!"

To which DC went "do you think we give a shit if you turn one of our existing characters into that? We had Batman using a cattle-brand on people. Go nuts." It's that simple and sad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 07:26:12 No.113012885 Report

Quoted By: >>113012911

>>113012857
>To which DC went
Nothing because they don't have a say

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 07:27:48 No.113012904 Report

Quoted By: >>113012928 >>113013337

>>113012857
I don’t understand why it’s so hard to get a half-asian abuse survivor with developmental issues who can kick Batman’s ass some damn respect in the current market. That seems like a really easy sell! Like, to everybody!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 07:28:54 No.113012911 Report

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>>113012885
Well fair enough, but when they heard they shrugged, because not only do they not have a say they also don't give a fuck. Nobody at WB/DC gives a fuck about the source material. Bewildering. You buy something in the hopes of adapting and selling it, then just ignore it and trust hollywood nobodies to make up new shit.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 07:29:54 No.113012919 Report

Quoted By: >>113012976 >>113013018 >>113013095 >>113014966 >>113014999 >>113016213

>>113012019
DC decided to copy the worst scene in Endgame and make an entire movie out of it, even after everyone and their dog said it was the most forced and horrible scene in Endgame

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 07:30:35 No.113012928 Report

Quoted By: >>113012966 >>113013010 >>113013084

>>113012904
The director said she didn't like the "Mute Asian Woman" stereotype. Makes no fucking sense to me since Cassandra isn't mute, but her having severe language problems is such a big part of her character that yeah, fine, I agree with the director's view that if that bit has been cut everything else may as well be cut too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 07:33:47 No.113012966 Report

Quoted By: >>113012997

>>113012928
>The director said she didn't like the "Mute Asian Woman" stereotype
What stereotype?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 07:34:42 No.113012976 Report

Quoted By: >>113013018 >>113013353

>>113012919
>The female heroes walking together was the worst scene in Endgame
Imagine being this much of an incel snowflake. Did all the women on screen without a big strong self insert around, frighten you anon? Did you feel oppressed?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 07:35:54 No.113012997 Report

Quoted By: >>113013013

>>113012966
this one.

did she even say anything? all I know is that she's got my back.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 07:37:21 No.113013010 Report

Quoted By:

>>113012928
Do you have a single source to back that up?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 07:37:25 No.113013013 Report

Quoted By:

>>113012997
Yeah she did

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 07:37:39 No.113013018 Report

Quoted By:

>>113012976
>>113012919
that scene was one of the biggest flexes of the MCU, look how many female heroes they have. singlehandedly ended that argument.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 07:43:52 No.113013084 Report

Quoted By: >>113013308

>>113012928
I’m 100% sure there’s spite behind it. Otherwise she’d just use a generic teen with whatever name. No reason to drag Cass through the mud and leave none if the character intact unless you’re trying to piss people off.

I’m usually not the guy who gets mad at this shit! But Cass has gotten such a raw fucking deal for so long it just feels like a giant FUCK YOU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 07:44:50 No.113013095 Report

Quoted By: >>113013538 >>113016055

>>113012919
>DC decided to copy the worst scene in Endgame
You do know that Endgame didn't invent female super hero teams right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 08:02:18 No.113013282 Report

Quoted By: >>113013373 >>113014252

>>113006405
Every charcater was comic accurate save for Cass.

Hell Renee was even an alcoholic

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 08:03:46 No.113013308 Report

Quoted By:

>>113013084
I look at the sheer schizo nature of all the fuckups and just can't believe it's a deliberate "FUCK YOU". That would be more coherent. The last decade of shit with Cassandra has been incompetence tripping over indifference. For fuck's sake, they took the character with severe language problems, who only knew English and only just a LITTLE English, and decided with Batman international they'd reveal she was back into heroing... and was doing it in Hong Kong, where the language barrier would be even worse than in America. Because she's Asian, and they're Asian there, and... yeah. I can't look at that and think "they were being spiteful pricks" because it just screamed "they're incompetent and don't give a shit."

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 08:06:14 No.113013337 Report

Quoted By: >>113013385

>>113012904
>who can kick Batman’s ass
She can?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 08:07:34 No.113013353 Report

Quoted By:

>>113012976
You type like a fag

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 08:08:23 No.113013363 Report

Quoted By: >>113013733

>>113006350
>they basically made nothing internationally
lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 08:09:09 No.113013373 Report

Quoted By: >>113013652 >>113014119

>>113013282
Well aside from Black Canary being black, and the whole "lounge singer" thing which abso-fucking-lutely is not a significant part of the character's backstory across decades of media.
And the weird speech habits with Montoya.
Huntress was, in terms of writing, the closest to the book character, but visually that was worse than even the worst comic Huntress looks, which is saying something. Fuck, I think it was actually worse than the Birds of Prey TV show!
And Zsasz was very much not the book character.
Black Mask sucks hard enough in the books that I can't give a shit about the differences but, again, he sucks in the books.
But most of all, the "it's kinda book accurate" argument falls flat because no, Black Canary, Montoya, and Huntress would not team up with Joker's old squeeze as she sets off on a killing spree.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 08:09:36 No.113013379 Report

Quoted By: >>113013416 >>113013419 >>113013427 >>113013437 >>113013566 >>113013586 >>113014261 >>113015425

>>113006405
You people were looking to find a reason to shit on the movie so that you could hate it. There was never any chance of you giving it a chance, your mind was made the second you couldn’t jerk off to it like a typical male sex fantasy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 08:09:57 No.113013385 Report

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>>113013337
It was canon at least for a while that in a pure 1v1 hand to hand combat she’d beat his ass. I think maybe it even happened? Been a long time since I read her original run. She was just pretty bad at being a detective and other things. I dunno where it’s at now, honestly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 08:10:54 No.113013392 Report

Quoted By:

>>113006812
Except people liked Suicide Squad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 08:13:19 No.113013416 Report

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>>113013379
>your mind was made the second you couldn’t jerk off to it like a typical male sex fantasy.
/co/mblr pls

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 08:13:33 No.113013419 Report

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>>113013379
Man can’t I just be mad that they shit up characters I like? I’m consistently always mad when they do that. I don’t wanna oppress anyone I just want them to respect the fucking source material. I don’t feel like that’s that hard of an ask. Do I really gotta be on team Nazi for that? I look like shit in jackboots.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 08:13:58 No.113013427 Report

Quoted By: >>113013527

>>113013379
The took Birds of Prey and Batgirl (Cassandra Cain), two of my favorite books, and completely botched translating them to the screen. I would have loved to love this. I wasn't looking for shit to hate, I had a small part of me that wanted to think it might be good (although I didn't think it was likely considering shit like Batman v Superman). Sometimes a movie sucks, Anon, and there's no hidden agenda behind thinking so.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 08:14:36 No.113013434 Report

Quoted By: >>113013509 >>113013551

>>113006896
What kind of a pathetic loser gets triggered by this? You people are beyond sad. Nothing but perpetual victimhood. I though you were proud being tough and masculine who don’t let their feelings dictate everything, yet you’re acting like bitchy little teenage girls throwing hissyfits at inconsequential online articles you scour for hours just so you can find “justification” for your thinskinned hour of hate bitching.

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 08:14:56 No.113013437 Report

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>>113013379
>can’t jack off to it
You’re kidding, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 08:21:17 No.113013502 Report

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>>113012286
It's important because unlike Marvel, DC lacks an overarching vision. Which means each character will do whatever the directer feels is right at the time, even if it contradicts the past or opens massive plot holes in the franchise. That went poorly for Star Wars. How to prevent that? Use the overarching development provided by the existing narrative in comics. It's a simple and elegant solution that no one would ever use precisely because it's easy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 08:22:04 No.113013508 Report

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>>113012699
>Gay men don’t support birds of prey because they don’t like being demonized
Even if they did they're such a minority that it's a blip on the box office radar.

Why would you target a $100 million budget movie at feminsts and fags/lesbians ?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 08:22:06 No.113013509 Report

Quoted By:

>>113013434
Your post actually sounds more pathetic and bitchy than his.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 08:22:25 No.113013512 Report

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>>113012297
Well, no harm in that (fortunately), although with 5G coming those characters have all new, all different problems to deal with.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 08:23:39 No.113013526 Report

Quoted By: >>113013699

>>113012804
Robbie (or whatever her name is) is on record as having problems with Asian women.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 08:23:58 No.113013527 Report

Quoted By: >>113013544 >>113013849 >>113014207

>>113013427
Birds of Prey is a bunch of female DC characters teaming up. How is that botched? Muh Oracle isn’t a reason, that’s autistic nitpicking. The movie is essentially a origin story why Helena, Dinah and in this version, Montoya become vigilantes who work together. Harley is simply there to facilitate a chaotic situation where they all meet up and then at the end she fucks off.

And get over Cass. They just gave her name to a random character. Boo-frigging-hoo. It’s hardly the end of the world, it was dumb limp wristed fan service done wrong. Cass has no chance of ever being adapted right in movies when she’s been entirely pointless character in comics for the fourteen years running and Barbara always has first dibs on being Batgirl. The can be judged entirely on its own merits instead of nitoickiyhow it’s not just like the movie. Marvel on a regular basis takes way more liberties on characters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 08:24:59 No.113013538 Report

Quoted By: >>113016055

>>113013095
Of course he doesn't

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 08:25:52 No.113013544 Report

Quoted By:

>>113013527
Not him but it’s fucking dumb when Marvel does it too. I’m sure there’s a Baron Zemo fan out there somewhere who’s rightfully mad as hell.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 08:26:38 No.113013551 Report

Quoted By: >>113019721

>>113013434
>perpetual victimhood
Who's claiming to be a victim here? People are just pointing out it's a bad business decision to alienate a public. Imagine if an article headline read "THIS MOVIE DOESN'T NEED WOMEN AND GAYS, IT'S GONNA BE A SUCCESS BECAUSE OF CISHET MEN". Even though it's true for a lot of films, you don't see that headline because it's just bad business to alienate the few women and gays who do want to see the movie.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 08:27:45 No.113013566 Report

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>>113013379
>Anons complaining about their favourite characters being ruined
>"You're pissed you can't jerk off to them!"
People like you should never talk. You just lower the quality of the conversation with every word.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 08:29:20 No.113013586 Report

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>>113013379
What if you are disappointed in the lack of sex appeal AND think it's generally kinda bad?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 08:36:55 No.113013652 Report

Quoted By:

>>113013373
>and the whole "lounge singer" thing which abso-fucking-lutely is not a significant part of the character's backstory across decades of media.

Dinah being a singer has been a thing for the better part of a decade in multiple books.

>And Zsasz was very much not the book character

Far more accurate than Gotham’s Zsasz. They just turned him from a generic serial killer to s henchman. He still has his scar tally marks and he even makes a speech about how he’s saving one place especially for Harley.

> But most of all, the "it's kinda book accurate" argument falls flat because no, Black Canary, Montoya, and Huntress would not team up with Joker's old squeeze as she sets off on a killing spree.

So you literally haven’t seen the movie or know the plot and just spout stupid inaccurate shit. Everyone teams up in the end because they’re surrounded by Black Mask’s gang and unless they work together they will all die. That is literally it. They would otherwise die and nobody wants the kid to be gutted because she swallowed the diamond.

Half the movie is Montoya running after Harley, Helena murdering people responsible for her family’s death, Dinah trying to save Cass by working with Renee, and Harley running around the city being chased by people who hold a personal grudge against her, and it all culminates when they end up meeting at the amusement park. It’s an alliance of convenience. Helena was literally just going to leave after killing Zsasz because she had no interest in anything else.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 08:37:57 No.113013660 Report

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>>113006596
Didn't Mask of the Phantasm bomb?

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 08:39:30 No.113013671 Report

Quoted By: >>113013690

People who haven’t read Cass’s book, including the director, probably just think people love her because she’s a hot asian chick and have no idea how good the run actually was.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 08:42:01 No.113013686 Report

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>>113006718
But Harley Quinn has been soooo hot for a while now. we gotta put her in more shit.

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 08:42:17 No.113013690 Report

Quoted By: >>113013729

>>113013671
When honestly Cass wasn’t even drawn super bangable anyway

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 08:43:33 No.113013699 Report

Quoted By: >>113016855

>>113013526
Then why did she include her at all?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 08:48:09 No.113013729 Report

Quoted By: >>113013828

>>113013690
Nigga u gay

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 08:48:23 No.113013733 Report

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>>113013363
How do you know that already?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 08:58:29 No.113013828 Report

Quoted By: >>113013882

>>113013729
My man she is a cartoon. I mean they all are, but she’s got a huge head and squashes and stretches and shit. The art’s closer to Mickey Mouse than anime.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 09:00:12 No.113013846 Report

Quoted By: >>113014001

>>113006798
The things I would do to her...

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 09:00:51 No.113013849 Report

Quoted By: >>113014467

>>113013527
1. Muh Oracle is a pretty good reason, I'd argue, considering how she was one of the two founding members and part of the series for pretty much all the years that put it on the map.
2. The movie Canary REALLY isn't much like the book one. Huntress is closer, but it's still a pretty poor rendition, unsurprising since they jammed so many characters into the movie they couldn't do much justice to them. Zsasz was just wasted - not a Birds of Prey thing, just saying in general.
3. I'd argue it's pretty poor as an adaptation to have the Birds get sidelined by Harley's nonsense. Cut into two movies, one about Harley, one about the Birds, you could've end up with something stronger. As it is, they're standing on one another's toes.
4. Even by adaptation standards, Cass got a remarkably short end of the stick. It's stupid when Marvel does it too, I'm not a fan of either company, but I can't think of any time Marvel took a character who'd managed to do decently with his/her own book for six-ish years and adapted the character into something so different the only thing in common with the book version is ethnicity. Zemo's the closest I can think of, and fuck, even then he at least was still a combat-pro mastermind in the movie. Marvel might take comparable "in name only" liberties with veeeeeeeeeeeery minor characters (Yondu was a nobody, come off it), but characters who had their own book, for several years, in recent memory?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 09:03:49 No.113013879 Report

Quoted By: >>113013937

I've already seen two articles blaming the coronavirus for its poor international take. Not saying that can't be one factor, but oof.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 09:04:15 No.113013882 Report

Quoted By:

>>113013828
Nigga. U. Gay.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 09:10:27 No.113013937 Report

Quoted By:

>>113013879
It does sound like cope. But with how much the media is hyping the virus up for views I wouldn't be surprised if people in countries with confirmed cases are avoiding cinemas. We'll see how true this is next week if sonic tanks horribly in those countries.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 09:10:50 No.113013942 Report

Quoted By: >>113013959

>>113006452
Captain Marvel had that sweet, sweet brand insulation. When your brand is hot, you can completely blow one or two titles and still have success. The DCEU is still pretty shakey, so there's no "will it looks like shit but it'll probably be good" optimism at work.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 09:13:32 No.113013959 Report

Quoted By: >>113014023 >>113014104

>>113013942
Wonder Woman 1984 will likely be good, at least.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 09:15:17 No.113013977 Report

Quoted By:

>>113006350
I'll be honest. I actually didn't even know this film was a thing until like a week or two ago.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 09:18:10 No.113014001 Report

Quoted By: >>113015157

>>113013846
Her Crisis cameo was mean-spirited

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 09:21:17 No.113014023 Report

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>>113013959
WB/WB had made some good entries in the brand, but my point is they haven't earned the free ride, or at least leeway that Marvel has. It's like every time they get an ounce of momentum, they drop a massive stinker and blow it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 09:32:39 No.113014104 Report

Quoted By: >>113014135

>>113013959
Unless they fuck up Cheetah's visuals like Cats. It's worrying that we still haven't seen anything with her nonhuman form.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 09:35:18 No.113014119 Report

Quoted By: >>113014224

>>113013373
Mask captured "psycho mobster" pretty well. They even had the blatant face fetishism all over set design which I Looooved . Like if Bender played Cokehead Black Mask Obi Wan played designer party drug Black mask.

Also Black Canaries been a singer for a bit now, like half a decade, its a valid part to take cues from its not like comic accuracy has a statue of limitations.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 09:37:09 No.113014127 Report

Quoted By: >>113014224

>>113010823

>>113011472

Fuck you this was the best Black Mask since Under the Red Hood.

(Ok theres been like two but point is Black Mask has shown up like 3 times outside books and hes been good in all of them.)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 09:38:48 No.113014135 Report

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>>113014104
>It's worrying that we still haven't seen anything with her nonhuman form.
Probably saving it for the second trailer. Which is smart because it left them something to hype up instead of cramming it all into the first trailer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 09:49:51 No.113014207 Report

Quoted By: >>113015424

>>113013527
>Birds of Prey is a bunch of female DC characters teaming up.

You're looking at what the book eventually became, after years of setting up a strong foundation that the current title really isn't doing a great job with. The book got rolling as a straightforward team-up between two characters that worked well together. Oracle was pretty new to her role as "brainy adviser over a phoneline" and Canary had years of experience but just wasn't tech savvy enough to get very far as a solo act. It made for a good team, and the dynamic still sort of worked when Huntress was added so that the two well-established heroes could act as a mentor to someone newer. "Birds of Prey is a random assortment of female heroes" might be what we ended up with after DC's decision to get rid of Oracle, but the period that got attention and praise was before all that. If you want to adapt any series into a movie, you look to some of the stronger stories, you don't just take a random sampling of characters that appeared in the book (sometimes only very briefly) and slap them in there.

Well, you can, but you're not going to get fans of the source material fired up, and you're being pretty silly by ignoring the more popular stories you own in favor of adapting less popular shit. I'd argue that BoP's opening goes to show that it's not a great idea to do that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 09:52:27 No.113014224 Report

Quoted By: >>113014247 >>113015363

>>113014127
>>113014119
Black Mask has always been shit. "I was attacked by a raccoon while I was a kid, so now I'm obsessed with masks! And I was dropped on my head as a baby so I'm evil! Also I'm a face mutilating cultist. And a mobster. And I ran a cosmetic company into the ground. And Catwoman killed me. Twice."

Good God, if he didn't have a nifty visual he wouldn't have even appeared in a second story, much less all the shit he's been in.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 09:53:00 No.113014228 Report

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>>113006405
yeah, I knew this movie wasn't for me the moment they talked about "male gaze".
fuck of, male characters have to lose their shirt and show of huge muscles in every movie but a female character wearing short shorts and a push up bra is too much to ask?
and don't get me started on they cased only ugly women to play their super attractive comic book counter part.
comics have gone woke and broke for years now, the thing that roasties forgot is that comics are cheap to make so a company like marvel and dc can afford making loses on them to push their propaganda, but movies are expensive on the other hand

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 09:54:02 No.113014233 Report

Quoted By: >>113015222 >>113015439

>>113007469
Disney bought CM tickets, they are famous for lying about numbers to push up their stock market, they have done the same with disney land visitor numbers for decades.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 09:55:15 No.113014245 Report

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>>113006452
that movie had the infinity war hype too boost it. had it come out in 2008 or 2009 when the mcu was still new nobody would have shown up

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 09:55:33 No.113014247 Report

Quoted By: >>113014305

>>113014224
This. It's been annoying for me that suddenly people care about Black Mask. He's a Z list villian. They can hate the film all they want but don't fucking bullshit me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 09:56:16 No.113014252 Report

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>>113013282
none of them were hot, had revealing outfits or had big breasts so you are full of bullshit

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 09:57:31 No.113014261 Report

Quoted By: >>113014337

>>113013379
>why don't men want to watch movies that a thin strawmen about how all men are horrible and all women need to fight back against their oppression
tell me this /co/mblr why is it ok for movies to openly hate on men simply for being men but men are not allowed to call out sexist behavior like that?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 09:59:34 No.113014276 Report

Quoted By: >>113014310

>>113006798
yes I miss the late 90s, early 2000s before feminism came and destroyed every single hobby and franchise there is.
marvel, dc, star wars, star trek, 40k, lord of the rings, what friendchise hasn't been turned into a woke feminist propaganda tool that constantly attacks white men and changes the established lore to replace beloved white male characters with women and minorities?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 10:02:59 No.113014305 Report

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>>113014247
I will say, as much as I hate that tryhard idiot character and his lame "I killed my parents when I was younger, making me kinda like an anti-Bruce Wayne!" nonsense, it baffled me that they made him gay in the movie. If you're going to have you bad guy be the scenery chewing ebil male stereotype, then fucking commit to him being all the shitty shit that goes with that stereotype, don't throw in "also he's fucking his right hand man." Nearly-a-stereotype except for one random incongruity actually feels worse.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 10:04:01 No.113014310 Report

Quoted By:

>>113014276
God I hate 40k fans.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 10:08:44 No.113014337 Report

Quoted By:

>>113014261
Uhh, have sex incel?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 10:31:11 No.113014467 Report

Quoted By:

>>113013849
>Zsasz was just wasted

His one note gimmick is kill people and then cut himself because that's how he keeps a body count tally. How does the movie waste him when it actually makes a point of showcasing his scar tally and how they're special to him, and he's shown to be psychotic killer? He's used as well as one can use someone whose core gimmick is so narrow and limited

>Birds get sidelined

They do not, they don't exist until the end of the movie when they decide to team up permanently. It's an origin story to them. You can complain about misleading marketing as far as the title of the movie goes but anything beyond that is moronic.

And Cass is a nobody these days. She hasn't been relevant in over a decade.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 10:37:39 No.113014509 Report

Quoted By:

>this guy hellbent on defending a shitty phoned-in script that shits all over the source material it's "adapting"

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 10:41:45 No.113014535 Report

Quoted By:

>>113006350

I didn't even know it was released at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 10:41:59 No.113014536 Report

Quoted By:

>>113006896
At this point, I honestly think that it's Disney fans who write shit like this to make people hate the DCEU. It just can't be that someone thinks this would make more people see a movie. I mean, it's not even WB who writes this but literally lunatics from some online magazine

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 10:43:47 No.113014551 Report

Quoted By: >>113014605 >>113014620 >>113014694

Tick Tock Warner
Leto's redemption arc starts when he outdraws BoP

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 10:48:52 No.113014579 Report

Quoted By:

>>113006350
It's quite telling that I've seen extremely little art relating to this new Harley.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 10:52:13 No.113014605 Report

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>>113014551
No. Leto was a blight on Blade Runner, he doesn't deserve redemption.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 10:55:02 No.113014620 Report

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>>113014551
> twisted fucking cycle path Morbius
The bar of my expectations is on the ground

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 10:56:24 No.113014629 Report

Quoted By: >>113014650

>>113010664
>Trump has an impeachement trial
>it’s Romney who comes out with a black eye

The madman’s got D4C: Love Train on, I swear

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 10:57:57 No.113014638 Report

Quoted By:

>>113010664
Didn’t Obama kill NASA?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 10:59:30 No.113014646 Report

Quoted By:

>>113006896
41%

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 11:00:22 No.113014650 Report

Quoted By:

>>113014629
His vision is unclouded. All of his actions are those of justice.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 11:03:14 No.113014667 Report

Quoted By:

>>113006452
most people are getting tired of the woke shit now. Reason you're still seeing a lot of woke shit at the moment if because they were all greenlit during its height. What we're seeing is just that stuff..

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 11:05:28 No.113014684 Report

Quoted By:

>>113006896
>What is the rhythm section?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 11:05:54 No.113014689 Report

Quoted By: >>113014695

Ttly not a dc bro but no one carded for birds of prey lad

Harley Quinn is not even a thing for normies anymore. Except silly dyed hair mall goths.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 11:06:53 No.113014694 Report

Quoted By: >>113014825

>>113014551
He is still a cult leader of an underage sex island. Nothing redeemable about him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 11:06:57 No.113014695 Report

Quoted By: >>113014785

>>113014689
I cared about Birds of Prey, just like I cared about Suicide Squad and Jonah Hex. DC has ruined many things I like.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 11:24:37 No.113014785 Report

Quoted By: >>113014798

>>113014695
>DC
You mean WB

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 11:26:07 No.113014795 Report

Quoted By:

>>113007194
it would work much better as TV series, I think.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 11:26:24 No.113014798 Report

Quoted By:

>>113014785
It was DC comics that slapped Harley into Suicide Squad first...

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 11:27:29 No.113014806 Report

Quoted By:

>>113012741
Lol /pol/ is full of retards and Bob is the king of the simpletons.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 11:28:24 No.113014810 Report

Quoted By:

>>113007194
Naw, this book just made me think Harley is a dumb shit who's easy as fuck. Which might be the case lol but that's a shit script is my point.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 11:30:05 No.113014825 Report

Quoted By:

>>113014694
Based. Living the dream

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 11:34:26 No.113014843 Report

Quoted By:

>>113007461
Cheaper movies can still not get even... and, most important, even if they make money they might not make "As Much As Expected" which in Executive eyes is basically a complete failure... even if the expectations were utterly unrealistic

>>113007674
>No comic fan was going to come out of this saying "it's a great adaptation!"
comic fans are apparently all white heterosexual males who therefore are not relevant or something.

>>113007687
whoever the Feige-like figure in WB si, they have just a speck of Feige's power.
Because they most likely come from the DC side of the things, so WB\Movie Side upper echelons treat them as the redheaded child of the family

In the end, Feige had 2 bosses above him, and now only one.
Johns or whatever most likely had\has at least 4-5 and all with "strong opinions"

That's not to say Johns might not just be too incompetent for the job. But whoever gets that position, unless they come from the movie side, have the deck stacked against them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 11:41:35 No.113014882 Report

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>>113008718
>>Sonic's gonna bomb hard and never make its money back
not sure about bomb hard(it might even perform above the expected), but it's not making money back no matter what because they had to re-do all the Sonic CG which must have costed pretty penny

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 11:48:21 No.113014919 Report

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>>113007060
>Alita and Wonder Woman succeeded because their actors were very sincere and warm during marketing while still saying things like how they're proud to play a strong female character
Nah. The biggest difference is that Alita and WW had pretty good trailers. They were aesthetically pleasant and showed decent action and good SFX, suggesting the story was all about being primarily a light fun adventure and little else.
BoP trailer, on the other hand, looked like shit. Poor action, cringe humor, off putting/cheap visuals... Kind of like the fem ghostbusters trailer. I mean, what the fuck are they trying to sell when the only thing the seem to be offering is mediocrity on par with a cheap Tv show. Where's the fun, the adventure, the cool villain, the beautiful actors?? Why I would bother going to the theater for this boring ass shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 11:54:34 No.113014952 Report

Quoted By:

>>113011279
>WB has morals
I'm laughing at you right now

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 11:57:16 No.113014966 Report

Quoted By: >>113016055

>>113012919
>DC decided to copy the worst scene in Endgame
Fuck you brainlet incel. That scene was badass

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 11:58:17 No.113014969 Report

Quoted By:

>>113006350
Why did they release it in Feburary?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 12:04:16 No.113014999 Report

Quoted By:

>>113012919
A force would probably make gorrillions. BoP lacks Joker, Will Smith and cool outfits.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 12:32:17 No.113015157 Report

Quoted By:

>>113014001
it was one of the best among the ones that did nothing

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 12:43:30 No.113015222 Report

Quoted By: >>113015417

>>113014233
You people are still clinging to this conspiracy theory? Disney doesn't even have the power to manipulate sales figures like that, this is dealt with by outside companies, and if it did pay for all these tickets it wouldn't make any profit. Your shit makes no sense.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 13:03:55 No.113015363 Report

Quoted By: >>113017626

>>113014224
I always liked Black Mask becasue hes basically just a regular mob moss but with a mask becasue GOTHAM. It's like you use him for any story you just want a no ginmicks crime boss villian but the guy at the top is the same psycho who plays dress up like the rest of them.

Also Frankly I only know him from The Batman and the Red Hood movie and he was great in both of them. He is such a cipher I think actors like having fun with him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 13:06:03 No.113015377 Report

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>>113007415
>And that person SHOULD have been Johns

Johns only wanted royalties.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 13:11:08 No.113015417 Report

Quoted By: >>113015446

>>113015222
they didn't manipulate, they bought the tickets

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 13:11:36 No.113015424 Report

Quoted By:

>>113014207
>Oracle was pretty new to her role as "brainy adviser over a phoneline" and Canary had years of experience but just wasn't tech savvy enough to get very far as a solo act. It made for a good team,
exactly why I always thought Spoiler should have become Cass' personal Oracle

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 13:11:42 No.113015425 Report

Quoted By:

>>113013379
You are grossly underestimating mans ability to jerk off.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 13:13:32 No.113015439 Report

Quoted By: >>113016894

>>113014233
>Disney bought CM tickets
point and laugh

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 13:14:33 No.113015446 Report

Quoted By:

>>113015417
>they didn't manipulate, they bought the tickets
That is just dumb and incredibly stupid for you to believe in something this completely retarded that makes no real sense. What dumb conspiracy theory would you believe next with that tin-foiled hat of yours?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 13:20:17 No.113015489 Report

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>>113007415
The WB exec's would never give anyone any real power. When he had struck gold with green lantern and they got a green lantern movie made because of it they quickly told him to shove his suggestions up his ass and just keep shoving advertising into the comics for the movie if he knew what was good for him.

The green lantern bombed and WBs response was to cut the amount of gl titles like it was John's personal fault

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 13:22:34 No.113015504 Report

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NOOOOO DC BROS THIS CAN'T BE HAPPENING, IT WAS GETTING GOOD REVIEWS AND WE WERE WINNING, NOW MARVELCHADS ARE GOING TO MAKE FUN OF US AGAIN NOOOO

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 13:26:26 No.113015526 Report

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>>113006405
This is true except it's not about feminism. The movie appeals to nobody because it barely comes off as capeshit but at the same time people that don't like capeshit won't get anything out of it either. They fucked up every possible marketing angle - like the push for Harley Quinn that is simply too weak because nothing about the trailers or even OP's pic say to a mass audience "oh yeah that's Harley Quinn". No Joker, no easily recognizable costume with black/blue-red patterns, nothing. This is the equivalent of Fox banking on their "Deadpool" for Xmen Origins

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 13:31:16 No.113015571 Report

Quoted By:

>>113006350
>is set to open well below forecasts
whoever did this forecast doesn't know a shit about his job. because anyone could have told you this would happen.

I mean, most people didn't even know this movie was being made, lot less that it premiered on the weekend.

Lately there are way too much movies that are failing at basic marketing, when everyone is aware of the next Netflix obscure show but doesn't know a cinematic movie is being released means that you are a terrible job advertising it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 13:33:30 No.113015588 Report

Quoted By: >>113015639 >>113015695 >>113015714 >>113015719 >>113016899

>>113006350
so go woke go broke?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 13:39:03 No.113015639 Report

Quoted By:

>>113015588
More or less.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 13:45:31 No.113015695 Report

Quoted By: >>113015747 >>113016441

>>113015588
No, it's go "painfully generic" go "nobody even realizes this movie exists and when they do they have no reason to care"

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 13:47:31 No.113015709 Report

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>>113006350
because only whites watch this boring ass shit movie. really needs a survey of the races of the audience.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 13:47:55 No.113015714 Report

Quoted By:

>>113015588
I'm pretty sure this flick would fail regardless

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 13:48:15 No.113015719 Report

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>>113015588
if it was woke it would have an audience, even if not a big one. this is just passive progressive flimflam that satisfies nobody

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 13:48:44 No.113015722 Report

Quoted By:

Women will go see a female led action movie if the MC is desired by a bunch of hot guys. Why don't these retards understand that?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 13:51:29 No.113015747 Report

Quoted By:

>>113015695
I think they are focusing so much in social networks and internet that they forgot other media exists and still reaches lot of people.

Its like that Terminator movies, a decade ago everyone and their mother would know there is a new Terminator movie about to come out and everyone would know the release date. But when the last Terminator movie was released basically no one knew.

I know this sounds boomer, but put it on the damn TV, newspapers and on walls! Make people know the damn movie is coming, don't think just because is on internet everyone knows

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 14:05:32 No.113015847 Report

Quoted By: >>113015888 >>113015944 >>113016442

>>113012019
Girls liked Harley as Joker's girlfriend and BoP's premise is that Harley broke with Joker. It's really simple. Even WB was aware they fucked up. That's why the movie opened in February and after the second trailer was released, WB stated that the Harley/Joker movie was still in the making

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 14:07:25 No.113015862 Report

Quoted By: >>113015884

>>113012592
>Comic fans might not be a huge group of people, but how the fuck does it make sense to go "ah, this book sold relatively well by comic standards. Let's adapt it, but change everything in it!"
Anime fans had been suffering from Hollywood adaptations of exactly this, and I don't think it is changing any time soon. Alita is surprisingly okay in that regard but the story is too compressed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 14:10:08 No.113015884 Report

Quoted By:

>>113015862
The movie covers a little over two volumes of the manga, I don't think that's compressed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 14:10:47 No.113015888 Report

Quoted By: >>113015912

>>113015847
>WB stated that the Harley/Joker movie was still in the making
WB on their knees for Leto to get the stacies and chads in the theatre. Amazing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 14:12:30 No.113015912 Report

Quoted By: >>113016671

>>113015888
Hollywood is a place that receive literal rapists and pedophiles with open arms. Being a prick is not a big deal. Also Morbius is definitely going to make more money than BoP

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 14:16:49 No.113015944 Report

Quoted By: >>113016029

>>113015847
The way i see it the problem itself isn't trying to make Harley independent, it's doing so in a way that strips away every peculiarity of the character other than "she's kinda crazy". You want a story about how she doesn't want to be evil with Joker anymore? Then why don't you do exactly that in a way that actively shows the struggle between the two instead of just going
>btw Joker's gone lol
This is like the fucking Electra movie that had no ties with DD other than sharing names and showing sais at some point, they're completely relying on Margot Robbie by herself without even bothering to dress her up in red and blue anymore

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 14:21:52 No.113015988 Report

Quoted By:

>>113006797
>poorfags who don't watch television
Huh? Only the poor watch television, because they have nothing else to do

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 14:24:52 No.113016009 Report

Quoted By:

>>113006350
>OHNONONONONO DC BROS???
Shitty template to use senpai. Literally noone, diehardest DC fans included, expected this to be anything but blunder.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 14:25:57 No.113016022 Report

Quoted By:

>>113006510
>Captain Marvel was also leading into Endgame
Yeah, this. Captain Marvel was practically homework for Endgame.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 14:26:49 No.113016029 Report

Quoted By: >>113016112 >>113016145

>>113015944
Except we're discussing normies. Who stood for SS against the brutal attack from all the media? Women did, not the geeks. I'm always surprised that women are treated as a "minority" market considering they're half of the human population. Teen girls and womanchildren around the world saw Harley/Joker as relationship goal. Inb4 b-but muh comics, nobody give a shit. Marvel never follow the comics and the normies don't give a shit. What happened here is Margot Robbie having too much power for her marriage with a big guy on the studio and quoting Orson Welles, Hollywood isn't run for money but ego. Of course money is needed to keep the machine running but what Hollywood moguls really care is their egos

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 14:30:19 No.113016050 Report

Quoted By:

>>113006350

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 14:31:23 No.113016055 Report

Quoted By:

>>113014966
>>113013095
>>113013538
seethe subhuman faggot you have no power or human rights

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 14:38:06 No.113016106 Report

Quoted By:

>>113006798
Is the wheelchair one meant to be Barbara? Why did they cast a 40 years old woman for her?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 14:38:56 No.113016112 Report

Quoted By: >>113016142

>>113016029
>brutal attack from the media
Oh please, it was a shit movie

I see what you're trying to say and I'm arguing that since most people aren't rabid crazies they still would've given a chance to an emancipated Harley if at least it happened in an organic and interesting way that still somewhat involved Joker's presence, which is obviously not something BoP offers. I don't think the mere implication that their relationship isn't good is the inherent problem because at the end of the day that was already brought up in SS itself

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 14:39:26 No.113016115 Report

Quoted By:

>>113008027
based Hamill

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 14:42:41 No.113016142 Report

Quoted By:

>>113016112
>Oh please, it was a shit movie
And that's a good thing

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 14:42:50 No.113016145 Report

Quoted By:

>>113016029
>Women did, not the geeks.

Because they wanted Leto's Evian Bottle inside them. Harley was for the Geeks to get off to. They ironically alienated the staunchest defenders of SS by taking away their fuccboi

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 14:49:29 No.113016213 Report

Quoted By:

>>113012919
I wouldn't have minded this scene much if Gamora wasn't in it. There was no logical explanation or reason for her to show up there and pose with the rest.
I mean, to be fair neither did half of the others, but Gamora was literally an outsider in every possible way.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 15:03:00 No.113016337 Report

Quoted By:

>>113008991
all "more diversity" means is, "look at my nigger slave i parade around, aren't I such a good person, gibs me dat and listen to me immediately now"
it's pure pandering through estimated marketing reactions and assumed societal responses towards feel-good emotive stimuli which repeats pin-pointed cultural aspects in order to appear valid as both a device and transmission of art.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 15:08:23 No.113016392 Report

Quoted By:

>>113008591
>directed by a woman of color

whos a total white puppet or bootlicker. that doesnt mean any fucking thing. capeshit films are the same as comics its an sjw circlejerk controlled by white feminists. its fuckiing trash.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 15:13:12 No.113016439 Report

Quoted By:

>>113010664
>i want spaceships!
>whaaat, space force?!?!?!?! aaaaaaaaaaaah

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 15:13:27 No.113016441 Report

Quoted By: >>113016908

>>113015695
This. Wokeness isn't the cause of this, it's shitty writing, shitty casting, and shitty marketing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 15:13:27 No.113016442 Report

Quoted By: >>113016671

>>113015847
>WB stated that the Harley/Joker movie was still in the making
Yeah nah, that is not happening

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 15:16:03 No.113016475 Report

Quoted By:

>>113010361
they're so nasty

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 15:26:24 No.113016589 Report

Quoted By:

>>113008096
Johns has had duds with Barry Flash, Superman, and most recently even Justice League itself. He also doesn't have any proven big success with Batman. He has his strengths, but he seems to fail right in the core of DC's business.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 15:28:31 No.113016623 Report

Quoted By: >>113016664

>>113006350
is this just Suicide Squad 2?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 15:31:46 No.113016664 Report

Quoted By: >>113016687

>>113016623
>is this just Suicide Squad 2?
It wish.
Suicide Squad is being rebooted, so don't be surprised if all these actors don't get any more jobs in the DCEU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 15:32:55 No.113016671 Report

Quoted By:

>>113016442
WB needs to cover the losses of BoP somehow and see >>113015912
Inb4 Joaquin Phoenix, his Joker is located in the early 80s while Leto Joker is on the late 2010s. Hell, Phoenix Joker knew Bruce when he was a kid.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 15:34:41 No.113016687 Report

Quoted By: >>113017060

>>113016664
I'm pretty sure Suicide Squad 2 will go through heavy re-shooting. How much of the movie they filmed anyway? I don't think they made that much but still the production will delay

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 15:34:56 No.113016691 Report

Quoted By:

>>113009967
I wonder at how a thread would go which compiles all of the fanservice for women compared to the men in the MCU and DCEU. it would certainly overwhelmingly demonstrate the prioritization of the female and homosexual gaze over the heterosexual. I just don't see why these closeted faggots and queers who get told to direct these cape-movies don't include both male and female gaze screentime. It's always tons of dude-shots and no females or full on prudeshit "modern sensibilities" faggotry with complete deviations from comic-sources.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 15:44:06 No.113016778 Report

Quoted By:

>>113006718
My Birds of Prey starts and ends with Chuck Dixon and also Duane Swierczynski before editorial ruined it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 15:45:08 No.113016792 Report

Quoted By:

>>113009808
The issue is getting the audience to go along with gods, completely unrelated aliens coming to modern Earth, just men with tech and also freaky super powers unrelated to everything else all being introduced together in a few minutes.

It completely breaks the usual "one miracle" rule which is a guideline used for movies and tv shows in general.

>Allow only one miracle or special talent or imaginative circumstance per episode. More than one and the audience grows impatient with your calls on their credibility.

It's why most super hero movies also make a first movie where the villain is directly connected to the hero's origin, since it avoids adding a second fantastical element out of nowhere and people can just focus on the selling point of the movie.

The only way a standalone Justice League movie would work is if everything were tied together from their origin stories, something like

>Superman - survivor from Krypton.
>Batman - human who found Kryptonian tech from Superman's fall and used it to fight crime.
>Wonder Woman - Amazons are actually a Kryptonian colony.
>Aquaman - Atlantis is also a Kryptonian colony.
>Flash - side effect of government experimenting with Kryptonian tech hitting a random civilian.

>Villain: Brainiac as a Kryptonian AI, or some other alien invader (like White Martians or maybe even Starro) who would be tied to Krypton's destruction. If using White Martians add Martian Manhunter to the team too.

Although obviously that would get a lot of whining too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 15:50:43 No.113016855 Report

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>>113013699
She didn't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 15:56:24 No.113016894 Report

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>>113015439
Disney's been under scrutiny for that sort of practice, yes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 15:56:51 No.113016899 Report

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>>113015588

It's more a case of just making an overall film. It fails on its own merits as a movie, and it fails even more when considered as an adaptation of an established work.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 15:57:36 No.113016908 Report

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>>113016441
Yeah, no. This concept (BoP) was good until the woke losers got their hands on it. Just like Star Wars, Ghostbusters, and the rest. Those people will tear down or ruin anything. "Fortunately" they're almost out of American milestones to destroy.

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 15:58:38 No.113016913 Report

Quoted By: >>113017019 >>113017037

STOP MAKING ENSEMBLE FILMS WITHOUT FIRST DEVELOPING THE PEOPLE IN THE ENSEMBLE.

FUCK.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 16:03:08 No.113016959 Report

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>>113012720
>Wheelchair access in the middle of a row
Uh, why?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 16:09:38 No.113017019 Report

Quoted By: >>113017038

>>113016913
GOTG did fine though?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 16:11:08 No.113017037 Report

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>>113016913
That's not really the issue. The problems include a shit script, horrible character renditions, and cramming Harley on a team she has no business being on

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 16:11:11 No.113017038 Report

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>>113017019
GOTG is actually good and it's also part of the MCU

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 16:13:12 No.113017060 Report

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>>113016687
Gunn's Suicide Squad is definitely getting studio interference now that this shit flopped

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 16:13:20 No.113017064 Report

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Who would have suspected there were so many misogynist manbabies out there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 16:50:30 No.113017490 Report

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>>113017060
There's also the chance that Gunn will get more creative control considering that Robbie was probably making pressure for making Harley more relevant than the rest of the team. Look what she did to BoP

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 16:52:38 No.113017518 Report

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>>113006350
>introduce Margot Robbie as Harley Quinn in Suicide Squad, a movie globally panned to an even greater extent than all the other shit DC has been putting out recently
>Give her her own movie
>"it didn't do well? Stupid incels!"

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 16:55:49 No.113017566 Report

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Does it count as a flop?

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 16:57:04 No.113017585 Report

Quoted By: >>113017810 >>113018490

>>113017038
Practically the same shit, but is Marvel

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 17:00:10 No.113017626 Report

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>>113015363
>I always liked Black Mask becasue hes basically just a regular mob moss but with a mask becasue GOTHAM.

That character sounds decent. That's not Black Mask. Going "uh... he's just a regular mob boss, but with a disfigured skull-like face" is a recent innovation, and one they can't seem to stick to. Seriously, he's been all over the place in terms of personality, goals, and obsessions. He's been around for 35 years so a little bit of variation is to be expected, but this is pushing it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 17:13:26 No.113017810 Report

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>>113017585
Gamora didn't have a defining costume to get dropped, and isn't a brawler that was given a fucking nose ring. Some pretty big liberties were taken in GotG, but way less liberties than in BoP for the main characters, and GotG wasn't 50% about Elektra or some shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 17:20:16 No.113017896 Report

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It's the Birds of Prey movie except it's not because it's mostly about Harley Quinn.
And it's not about the most popular take on Harley Quinn, Joker's delightful and slinky girlfriend/enforcer, it's about the Hot Topic version, only she "don't need no man no more." That's not the take on the character that was initially popular, why use that take when giving her a movie?
It's a movie that took things that were pretty popular by comic standards, handed those things to Hollywood types that went "what do comic book writers know? We're smarter than them!" and shat the bed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 17:32:56 No.113018054 Report

Quoted By: >>113018253 >>113018490

>>113008967
Saw it last night, the highlight of the film are the action sequences. They're all well done and pretty creative. You can see the John Wick influence.

I find Harley fucking annoying but Margot Robbie did a good job in the role, still annoying to me but she did the absolute best anyone could with the material.

Overall it was entertaining and I didn't hate it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 17:41:21 No.113018181 Report

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>>113006350
>Movie adaptation in name only.
It's Catwoman (2004) all over again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 17:48:18 No.113018253 Report

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>>113018054
Man, even the PR shills know they can't sell it as being anything more than "I didn't hate it".

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 18:03:54 No.113018490 Report

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>>113017585
She's a green alien babe who is Thanos' daughter-of-sort and she kicks asses.
Sure,. they arguably messed up the costume, but everything else was on-point enough.

Nebula would have been a better example: she actually looks the part but her backstory has been messed up.

Mandarin\Trevor, maybe. But in his case it was a precise conscious decision to subvert expectations.

>>113018054
kind of expected.
Would you say it would have been received better if it wasn't forcefully tied to a superhero franchise?

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 18:43:29 No.113019008 Report

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>>113006896
Truth.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 19:38:12 No.113019721 Report

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>>113013551
>Imagine if an article headline read "THIS MOVIE DOESN'T NEED WOMEN AND GAYS, IT'S GONNA BE A SUCCESS BECAUSE OF CISHET MEN".
i imagine it would get a fuckload of clicks
which would make it not a bad business decision

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