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Anonymous Sun 20 Oct 23:14:15 2019 No.110837135 View Reply Original Report

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What storylines are you tried of seeing in comic and cartoon related media?

>Superman but he's evil
>Gotham city but Batman has abandoned it

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Anonymous Sun 20 Oct 2019 23:15:05 No.110837148 Report

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>Superman but Batman has abandoned him

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Anonymous Sun 20 Oct 2019 23:15:19 No.110837154 Report

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>>110837135
And what’s going on here?

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Anonymous Sun 20 Oct 2019 23:17:41 No.110837194 Report

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>Gotham City but it's evil

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Anonymous Sun 20 Oct 2019 23:19:34 No.110837235 Report

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>>110837154
The 90s

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Anonymous Sun 20 Oct 2019 23:19:41 No.110837237 Report

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>Superman but he’s Batman
>Batman but he’s Superman

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Anonymous Sun 20 Oct 2019 23:20:43 No.110837261 Report

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>>110837235
I mean what’s the storyline in the image, what’s going on there?

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Anonymous Sun 20 Oct 2019 23:21:19 No.110837269 Report

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>Love triangle but they don't just have a threesome

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Anonymous Sun 20 Oct 2019 23:23:21 No.110837310 Report

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>Batman but Gotham City abandoned him

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Anonymous Sun 20 Oct 2019 23:24:55 No.110837336 Report

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>>110837261
Spiderman parents are killed by Red Skull but not really and Spiderman thinks Venom kidnapped them.

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Anonymous Sun 20 Oct 2019 23:26:10 No.110837362 Report

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Anonymous Sun 20 Oct 2019 23:37:08 No.110837584 Report

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>>110837154
One sick ass jacket son i mean GODDAMN that thing is so violently cool i think it inspired me to gain 10 pounds of muscle and move somewhere cold where I can swim in freezing rivers and wear turtle necks under my popped collar.

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Anonymous Sun 20 Oct 2019 23:38:21 No.110837607 Report

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>>110837269
>Love triangle, but Batman has abandoned it

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Anonymous Sun 20 Oct 2019 23:40:43 No.110837677 Report

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>>110837135
>Superman but he's evil

Every upcoming creator I encounter who brings this idea up (alot more often than you think) instantly makes me lose interest in their concept. I get the 'it's the execution that matters' talk but come on you couldn't think of something else?

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Anonymous Sun 20 Oct 2019 23:42:37 No.110837714 Report

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>>110837677
>'it's the execution that matters'
is it even possible to execute in a manner that hasn't already been done before though?

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Anonymous Sun 20 Oct 2019 23:42:52 No.110837720 Report

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>>110837336
Venom DID kidnap them.

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Anonymous Sun 20 Oct 2019 23:43:06 No.110837722 Report

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>>110837135
>Superhero team breaks up/fights
>Due to issues easily fixed if they stopped to talk to each other for the equivalent of five minutes

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Anonymous Sun 20 Oct 2019 23:49:27 No.110837844 Report

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>>110837677
I believe it happens a lot, and I believe you are right. What execution is someone going to come up with that hasn't been done yet. You got Homelander and Brightburn, Ultraman and Injustice Superman. He has been brainwashed, turned evil, born evil, gone evil after his parents or lover has been killed, been raised in Russia, been raised by Zod, raised by Darkseid, cloned as evil, and even parodied by Marvel as a crazy fuck, what more is there to go with as far as Superman but evil?

>>110837720
You mean he is saving them from the spider menace.

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Anonymous Sun 20 Oct 2019 23:54:56 No.110837975 Report

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>>110837720
I liked how early Venom was almost delusional in that he thought the whole world hated Spider-man as much as him.
I wish modern writers hadn't just brushed this under the rug, there's potential in Eddie reflecting back on his former mental state.

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Anonymous Mon 21 Oct 2019 00:03:09 No.110838152 Report

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>>110837336
Spider-Man

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Anonymous Mon 21 Oct 2019 00:12:56 No.110838385 Report

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>>110837975
>I liked how early Venom was almost delusional in that he thought the whole world hated Spider-man as much as him.

I think he seemed completely delusional in pretty much every way, he seemed really deluded and his actions always seemed totally brash, part of what made him charming IMO in a world where every other villain is just generically "insane" aka they enjoy crimes and have no regard for human life.

It's funny to me how people always say Venom was a shitty character compared to the classic villains, but I think he was one of the most convincing looneys ever put into comics.

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Anonymous Mon 21 Oct 2019 00:17:29 No.110838513 Report

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>Iron man is evil again.

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Anonymous Mon 21 Oct 2019 00:17:50 No.110838524 Report

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>>110837714
If you're going into cape stuff for indie then you either gotta already be okay with the fact you're in an oversaturated genre or you didn't know alot of the other concepts existed. I've seen some creators who come in with their new 'original' cape idea then get all depressed when they find out the idea already was done. Usually the 'Superman but Evil' storyline always follows the same beats.

>Introduce Evil character as all powerful usually doing something depraved like casual murder, snarky banter
>protagonists talk about how they can't stop him
>usually some scene where an attempt is made and tons of people die or key character dies
>ending is usually gonna be they find a way, evil superman does something to sacrifice themselves to atone, etc.

There's limited ways to do this type of story and all of em were done to death by now.

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Anonymous Mon 21 Oct 2019 00:20:44 No.110838606 Report

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>>110837135
>Small Event is handled with relative ease.
>Twist that reveals it was all part of a even bigger event being built up by a conspiring villain behind the scenes.

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Anonymous Mon 21 Oct 2019 00:23:32 No.110838678 Report

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>>110837135
>Superman but he's evil

I think you might as well just extend this to
>x but they're evil

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Anonymous Mon 21 Oct 2019 00:27:45 No.110838784 Report

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>>110838385
Both Eddie and the Symbiote are amazing characters, the way that they harmonize with each other's grief and desires. Just perfect. Some delusional writers forget that Eddie's the driving force behind Venom--the Symbiote is just along for the ride with a dash of enabling cuz they want to make their host happy.

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Anonymous Mon 21 Oct 2019 00:29:12 No.110838816 Report

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>>110838784
This. As much as I love the movie, one problem I have with the Venom movie was how they got that part backwards. Hopefully it'll be fixed with the sequel.

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Anonymous Mon 21 Oct 2019 00:29:58 No.110838831 Report

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>>110837135
>some supervillain finds out Batman's identity, but this changes basically nothing
>Batman fights his all of his rogues on one night
>Nightwing is a jobber

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Anonymous Mon 21 Oct 2019 00:31:17 No.110838870 Report

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>>110837154
Peter reunited with his parents (who were fake, to my recollection). And Eddie, being the lunatic he is, believes that his parents need to be protected from the eviiiil Spider-Man because surely two upstanding people like the Parkers could never have birthed such a terrible person.

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Anonymous Mon 21 Oct 2019 00:33:36 No.110838929 Report

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>>110838678
Those aren't as prominent as Superman but he's evil. Batman but he's evil stories always end with evil Batman turning good again evil Superman and evil Wonderwoman.

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Anonymous Mon 21 Oct 2019 00:35:42 No.110838983 Report

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>>110837362
Is this the same guy that did the Mysterio switcheroo one? These are great and I want to know their name.

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Anonymous Mon 21 Oct 2019 00:36:12 No.110838994 Report

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>>110837720
>>110837135
I miss this kind of art style

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Anonymous Mon 21 Oct 2019 00:36:54 No.110839013 Report

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>The mayor of Gotham is mentioned.
Yeah, s/he's dead.
>The mayor dies.
They go through three of these a week. I think they're getting death row inmates to take the job, otherwise there's no explanation anybody would.

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Anonymous Mon 21 Oct 2019 00:36:58 No.110839017 Report

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>>110838870
Actually it's a pretext. He kidnaps them to lure Spider-man.

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Anonymous Mon 21 Oct 2019 00:41:00 No.110839115 Report

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>>110837844
>Gods and Monsters
>The Dark Knight Returns
>Kingdom Come
>Injustice
>Red Son
>Darkseid War
>Squadron Supreme
>The Boys
>Superman: The Dark Side
>Earth 2 (The Dark Age) and (The Kryptonian
>The Plutonian
>Infinite Crisis
>Forever Evil
There are plenty, plenty more stories of an evil Superman, but you niggas get the gist

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Anonymous Mon 21 Oct 2019 00:43:05 No.110839157 Report

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>>110838994
It's just Mark Bagley's art. One of my favorite Spider man artists, specially when drawing Venom and symbiotes.

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Anonymous Mon 21 Oct 2019 01:40:24 No.110840556 Report

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>>110838983

Twisted Toyfare Theatre.

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Anonymous Mon 21 Oct 2019 01:44:11 No.110840646 Report

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>>110838994
I like Bagley but I also HATE how he makes Spideys head shaped. For fucks sake just pretend he doesn't have a nose like everyone else Bagley, I'm begging you, it looks so bad

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Anonymous Mon 21 Oct 2019 01:46:50 No.110840716 Report

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>Is Moon Knight sane or is he CrRrrAAaAyYyyZzZeeEEE?

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Anonymous Mon 21 Oct 2019 02:24:16 No.110841609 Report

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>>110840716
I hate that, I like there not really being any question about Khonshu being real but just other people thinking he's crazy since they're not in on it

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