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Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 03:01:05 2019 No.110228273 View Reply Original Report

How strong is Ghost Rider really?

On paper he doesn't really seem that strong to me, like it feels like a lot of cats could take him pretty easy. Thor and Iron Man would take him no problem. Captain Marvel. etc.

I just don't see him as actually being that strong.

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Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 03:49:08 No.110229557 Report

Quoted By: >>110229648

He can tank hits from the world breaker hulk so he's up there in terms of strength. He's basically just Marvel's Specter where he's a lot more powerful then we usually get too see because the human side limits the power he uses.

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Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 03:50:26 No.110229589 Report

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AH NO MY JOBBER STARE AH IT ISNT WORKING MEPHISTO HELP ME AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

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Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 03:52:30 No.110229644 Report

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>>110228273
The problem with Ghost Rider is that he's arguably too strong, so much so that Marvel wrote themselves into a corner and thus results in constant jobbing. The biggest and most frequent example of this is writers not understanding how The Penance Stare works. Punisher, Captain Marvel, and several others magically are immune to this attack

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 03:52:43 No.110229648 Report

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>>110229557
>marvel's spectre
>not marvels Martian manhunter cause despite being stronger and more powerful than super man he jobs to everyone just like ghost rider

RED SUN

RED SUN Mon 23 Sep 2019 03:53:26 No.110229661 Report

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>>110229644
Simply infuriating

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Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 03:54:17 No.110229682 Report

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>>110229644
This is still the funniest Penance Stare moment https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hx8ob0BAkOs

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 03:55:09 No.110229706 Report

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>>110228273
He’s supposed to be really strong, he’s just never really allowed to overshadow the A-Listers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 03:55:39 No.110229715 Report

Quoted By: >>110229771 >>110231490

Ghost Rider is so cool. I feel bad that he's kind of been sidelined, I guess because of the Cage movies or something. He used to team up more with major heroes like Spider-man and Hulk. They should do a Hulu series with Danny Ketch.

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Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 03:58:12 No.110229771 Report

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>>110229715
Another problem Ghost Rider faces is marketability. They have to be careful not to piss off Catholics/Christians, and frankly GR material isn't really suited for the China market given their restrictions on how the dead are portrayed

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Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 04:07:17 No.110229966 Report

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>>110228273
>This ol' Ghost Rider
>Is Ghost Ridin' all alone
>He's a sturdy
>Solitary bone

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 04:13:15 No.110230098 Report

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>>110229771
I don't know why it would piss off Christians, the source material basically affirms a lot of their worldview.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 04:14:30 No.110230130 Report

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>>110229771
Did Ghost Rider piss off Christians back then?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 04:16:17 No.110230163 Report

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>>110228273
Strong enough to one-shot Galactus yet weak enough to literally get the Spirit of Vengeance beat out of him by Punisher.

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Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 04:46:04 No.110230746 Report

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>>110230130
Not that I recall. Johnny Blaze meddled with the dark arts and made a deal with a demon to save his dad, and was tricked and his dad died anyway, and he was possessed by a demon. He tried to use the powers for good but he still had lost his soul because he trusted a devil. Why would that bother Christians? It fits with their view of the devil. Jesus actually appeared in the comic and saved Johnny's soul once, but they retconned it later. Then later they also retconned it so Zarathos, who possessed Johhny and Danny, was an angel not a demon. Maybe Disney forced that, was that during the Disney era? Can't have heroes possessed by evil demons I guess. Big corporations seem to want to avoid any religious subject matter and they act as if simply presenting heaven and hell and demons and angels would be offensive to Christians (or maybe non-Christians? Who knows who they're worried about offending).

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Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 04:48:28 No.110230802 Report

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>>110230746
I mean in Christian lore demons are just fallen angels, so it makes sense.

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Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 04:58:57 No.110231021 Report

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>>110230746
>Jesus actually appeared in the comic and saved Johnny's soul once but they retconned it later
Jesus would regularly appear in old GR (and other marvel titles) as a wanderer who did people a solid and bounced. Once Marvel (sorta?) retconed TOAA to =/= YHWH Jesus just stopped appearing. Old GR was actually pretty pro-Christian values.
>>110230802
>I mean in Christian lore demons are just fallen angels
Ehhh, there's some leeway Marvel could play with. The old testament says there's spirits that God made that arn't Angels and some are dicks. There's not really anything strictly prohibited in GR from mainstream Christian lore but as has been said most big corporations just don't want to fuck with it in this age of internet spergs.

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Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 05:00:31 No.110231062 Report

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>>110229648
To be fair his weakness fire is just a match away and kryptonite requires a lot of money, a lot of luck, or a lot of earth mover equipment

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Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 05:10:28 No.110231266 Report

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>>110229644
Okay. So how the hell does it work? Makes you feel all the pain you've caused over your life, right? What happens if the character, some serial killer or something, is a huge masochist cuz his brain got rewritten or something. Hows it work then?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 05:11:13 No.110231279 Report

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>>110229648
Spectre jobs all the time though

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Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 05:14:15 No.110231347 Report

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>>110231266
The entire point is turning all the suffering you've caused others into a weapon and wrecking you both physically and mentally down to your vary soul. "lol I'm a masochist" doesn't work that way. It's more or less Hell felt in an instant

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Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 05:18:30 No.110231433 Report

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>>110228273
He’s super strong and has Hellfire which burns super hot, he would destroy iron man 1v1

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 05:21:02 No.110231480 Report

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>>110229682
I love his echoed voice

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 05:21:27 No.110231490 Report

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>>110229715
>I feel bad that he's kind of been sidelined, I guess because of the Cage movies or something.
The first Cage movie was fucking great. I loved it despite the villians being stupid looking and the final fight happening in a low-budget Mexican shack.

Second movie was so trash. They retconned random chunks of the first movie, his characterisation, and then just decided to run some random stupid bullshit plot about stopping the Devil from possessing his biological child (at least, that's what I can remember). They even managed to fuck up the Penance Stare in the second movie to make the victim freak out like they're overdosing on meth. The sequence in the first movie was simple and smooth, all they had to do was improve on that but no, they needed to just somehow fuck it up. No amount of exploding firey construction equipment can make up for how much they fucked up the second movie.

I feel bad they sidelined him because of their own fuckups and shit taste.

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Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 05:22:10 No.110231506 Report

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>>110230746
>Then later they also retconned it so Zarathos, who possessed Johnny and Danny, was an angel not a demon
That's movie only. Zarathos is actually a turbo demon, but the spirits of vengeance whom he was masquerading as were ghostly servants of angels which had been subdued by a demon (this flipflops a lot), but none of the major Ghost Riders actually use an actual Spirit of Vengeance (also one is currently dead and is now a Spirit of Vengeance and Johnny is King of Hell).

Also for some reason Marvel has 2 Heavens (one spelled without an a) and this is on top of all their other afterlifes.

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Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 05:23:44 No.110231538 Report

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>>110228273
Robbie defeated Quake, who at the time had the powerset and experience of just a tier below the Avengers. He's pretty fucking capable

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 05:26:30 No.110231597 Report

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He took down Galactus.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hx8ob0BAkOs

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Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 05:29:30 No.110231660 Report

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>>110228273
stronk

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Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 05:30:02 No.110231674 Report

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>>110228273
He's jobber strong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 05:57:55 No.110232134 Report

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>>110229682
Why does he talk like DrDisrespect?

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Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 06:02:38 No.110232213 Report

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>>110228273
hes one of those "this doesnt follow linear power sets" powers. hes not stronger than many many of the people he can take down due to owo magic bullshit

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Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 06:04:38 No.110232239 Report

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>>110228273
Well, cats feel no guilt, and can shrug off his stare.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 06:08:08 No.110232303 Report

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>>110228273
Iron Man isn't NEAR that strong. Read a comic, moviefag. He shoots lasers big whoop. 90% of his fights involve him barely surviving due to his armor and barely scraping a win due to luck and quick thinking. Ghost Rider would pulverize him

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 06:10:43 No.110232341 Report

Quoted By: >>110244323 >>110248055

>>110232303
>Iron Man isn't NEAR that strong
One of Iron Man's reoccurring baddie is marvel's version of Godzilla though. He's also had to fight a fully powered Namor a dozen times. Iron Man is also pretty high on the 'power levels determined by plot' list

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Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 06:10:53 No.110232346 Report

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>>110229644
For Punisher, Deadpool might’ve accidentally given him protection.

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Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 06:12:03 No.110232367 Report

Quoted By: >>110250001

>>110229644
MAYBE the Penace Stare was retarded in the first place. I WIN attacks are something pissy 6 year olds would come up with. I would like to see it retconned out of existence

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Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 06:12:36 No.110232373 Report

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>>110231347

Does it kill, like in the films?

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Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 06:14:09 No.110232402 Report

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>>110230098
That doesn't mean shit anon. Christians STILL get mad over an iron maiden song about a bad man who realizes he's going to hell, just because it has the sp00ky number 666 in the lyrics. Doesn't matter to them that the song itself is literally christian as fuck, they're idiots

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Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 06:14:33 No.110232405 Report

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>>110232346
I still think Punisher shouldn't be immune, but the *only* guilt he actually feels from the Stare is over his family's death. It's more in character and still makes him seem like a badass.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 06:17:35 No.110232444 Report

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>>110232373
it shouldn't, aside from like accidental heart attack or a freak brain aneurysm. The whole point is that it's a non lethal attack. If GR wants to kill someone he could just burn them to death with hellfire or something.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 06:19:01 No.110232468 Report

Quoted By: >>110255581

>>110232405

I am not sure why the Ghost Rider would go after him. Shouldn't the Ghost Rider only care about the innocent being killed? Would the Ghost Rider really make Frank feel the pain of the two parents, he killed, that were making porn with their kids?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 06:22:36 No.110232516 Report

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>>110231660
>Ghost rider destroys the marvel universe

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Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 06:36:28 No.110232684 Report

Quoted By: >>110232873

>>110232444
The penance stare is supposed to wound the soul and make your immortal being nope the fuck out from awareness for a lifetime (give or take.) The problem comes from writers who are either euphoric or stupid (or both) that equate the Penance Stare to a psychic attack on the mind. While Frank has in canon proven to be so batshit that psychic attacks don't work right that should have nothing to do with getting soul stabbed. If anything being a guilt ridden fallen Catholic should make Frank even more susceptible, not less.

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Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 06:52:19 No.110232873 Report

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>>110232684
Could he one shot Galactus then?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 06:54:08 No.110232892 Report

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Don't suppose I could snag some Ghost Rider recs or a chart to follow. If he's jobbing now I want to see him in his prime.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 06:55:52 No.110232915 Report

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>>110232873
The original story that was from was Dr. Strange casting a big spell that basically did the same thing as a Penance Stare (which is probably why the cartoon guys just used a character they already had a VA for and was being pushed a lot more at the time). But in both Galactus is a severely weakened state, he'd probably be able to power through it otherwise. He canon locked away a lot of Silver Surfer's emotions when he made him his herald, I figure he'd be able to use the power cosmic on himself so he normally doesn't give half a fuck that he's eating billions.

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Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 07:02:46 No.110233002 Report

Quoted By: >>110233126

>>110232915
>I figure he'd be able to use the power cosmic on himself so he normally doesn't give half a fuck that he's eating billions
Galactus is pure science, his soul is power cosmic which is why he's the universes thresher (eating matter and returning the spirit to a neutral state in preparation for the universal reset.) He had to go through a bunch of bullshit to depower him down enough for his souls to exist in a form Strange could attack.
It was fucking dumb.

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Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 07:07:05 No.110233070 Report

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>>110229682
>>110231597
>sup
>get rekt
>bye
they should use ghost rider more like this, as the last guy to show up or when fucked up beyond redemption

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 07:11:27 No.110233123 Report

Quoted By: >>110245854

>>110232915
does his stare work only on a person evil deeds or would it works on a hero too? like when they hurt a villain to save someone else

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Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 07:11:47 No.110233126 Report

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>>110233002
>It was fucking dumb.
He's been around long enough to be part of a lot of dumb stories. It's hard when Lee and Kirby introduced him as basically GOD, and then he's used as a jobber to get over other cosmic threats.

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Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 07:13:31 No.110233153 Report

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>>110232402
Most Christians have calmed down since the 80s.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 07:16:55 No.110233198 Report

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>>110233153
They probably didn't calm down, the more angry ones just died and haven't replenished their numbers enough.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 07:56:25 No.110233666 Report

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>>110231660

I'm dying. This photo is amazing.

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Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 11:28:49 No.110235700 Report

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>>110228273
Robbie should have the white stripe. All black leather for Blaze is perfect.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 11:39:50 No.110235812 Report

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>>110228273
He is so strong and not much of A-list. so writers use him to show how powerful other heroes or villains are.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 11:46:05 No.110235873 Report

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>>110228273
I think Remender used him really good in his Uncanny avengers annual. Sprit of vengence felt like a real threat and Johny blaze also had some nice moments.

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Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 12:18:56 No.110236191 Report

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>>110228273
> lot of cats could take him pretty easy.
>cats
Are you a 1960's black man? or a 1970's caucasian trying to be a cool black man?

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Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 12:26:52 No.110236279 Report

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>>110235700
I think they should rename Robbie as Ghost Driver or something. Too many guys with the same name annoys me.

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Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 12:28:01 No.110236296 Report

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He "no way fag'd" out of a threesome with Morrigan when she was in heat for him. He is very strong.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FZJD1kuEmc

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Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 12:38:23 No.110236384 Report

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>>110228273
>Names some of the strongest and most prominent heroes on Earth
>"hurr this guy isn't stronger than them, what a weakling"

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Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 12:41:04 No.110236405 Report

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>>110230163
Punisher wank is the worst, that faggot has more plot armour than batman.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 12:43:04 No.110236424 Report

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>>110228273
God Agents of Shield completely fucked up ANGR

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Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 12:55:45 No.110236576 Report

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>>110229682
why is the voice acting so hilariously bad in old cape cartoons
how did noone at any point say "uh guys this doesnt sound any good "

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Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 12:59:34 No.110236632 Report

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>>110236405
Any kind of wank can be done well but is usually not. The recent Hulk wank being a good example. Immortal Hulk has had a whole bunch of upgrades recently but very few people are complaining because it works within his own narrative and Ewing doesn't have him out in crossovers curbstomping ten different fandoms favourite characters. As opposed to WWH which (outside of the main book) was just a line up of marvel characters ready to job to the Green Scar like he was Andre the Giant at a royal rumble.

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Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 13:27:43 No.110237096 Report

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Ghost Rider’s gotten his ass handed to him by Hobgoblin. He’s kind of a pussy if it wasn’t for the whole Zarathos thing. Zarathos can match Mephisto, who’s blown galaxies away at his best. Ghost Rider is a massive jobber, is what I’m saying. Fucking Daredevil with a shitty Hand Demon wrecked his shit.

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Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 13:31:41 No.110237153 Report

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>>110229682
The voice acting is so shitty but god damn Ghost Rider's voice is sexy. Who voiced him?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 13:31:50 No.110237157 Report

Quoted By: >>110237492

>>110232873
He shouldn’t, since Galactus is supposed to be a universal force of nature that maintains balance and keeps all cosmic level shit from outside the universe at bay, but no doubt Ghost Rider has been wanked to those levels.

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Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 13:40:36 No.110237318 Report

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At a hypothetical strongest, Ghost Rider should be close to, if not the, strongest hero on Earth.

That being said writing him in a dynamic universe full of other characters is very difficult to reconcile, as in any real sort of conflict, he'd likely overshadow many other heroes and solve conflicts too easily.

I think he's at his best when he's just a traveller, dealing with southern gothic/Grindhouse horror weirdness.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 13:51:08 No.110237492 Report

Quoted By: >>110238207

>>110237157
>Galactus is supposed to be a universal force of nature that maintains balance and keeps all cosmic level shit from outside the universe at bay
That's not what Galactus does, at all. He's the universes entropy, he consumes the raw potential of the natural universe in preparation for the universal reboot. Some of the potential he consumes is potential for chaos but he doesn't judge morality and as far as keeping anything "at bay" Galactus wants you to come in...so he can eat you.

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Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 13:52:26 No.110237516 Report

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>>110237153
Richard Grieco

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Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 13:54:11 No.110237555 Report

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Also, while I was looking for that Ghost Rider Fantastic Four clip, I came across this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xn2FIINkzrs

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Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 13:54:13 No.110237556 Report

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>>110229644
The Penance Stare should only work against real shitbags.

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Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 13:55:52 No.110237580 Report

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>>110237153
Richard Grieco

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Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 13:55:58 No.110237585 Report

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>>110230098
>I don't know why it would piss off Christians
Hahahahaha

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Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 14:06:45 No.110237815 Report

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>>110233126
Is Earth special in Marvel like it is in DC?

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Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 14:21:11 No.110238101 Report

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>>110229682
My favourite bit is when Johnny Storm is like 3 feet tall

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Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 14:27:27 No.110238207 Report

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>>110237492
>being this casual

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Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 14:27:32 No.110238209 Report

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>>110231660
>putting heavy statues on the top shelf
They deserved this. Statues should be ontop of sturdy premade bookshelves, not glasses cases that you have to put together yourself

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Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 14:29:46 No.110238239 Report

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>>110233153
Wrong. I still see this shit daily. People tell me im going to hell over a goddamn t shirt

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Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 14:34:20 No.110238314 Report

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It's a balance of control/power between Johnny Blaze and Zarathos is the way I like to look at it. This is from when he faced The Hulk during World War Hulk.

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Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 14:46:36 No.110238486 Report

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>>110238207
Abraxas is one of the stupidest, most worthless characters ever created by MarLEL. Making Galactus a "living seal" for some "ultimate embodiment of destruction" donut steel is beyond retarded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 14:47:17 No.110238495 Report

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>>110238207
>citation needed

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Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 14:52:21 No.110238579 Report

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>>110229771

Uh...wasn't GR's power was originally bestowed by god? And didn't he kick Lucifer's butt back to hell?

I mean, YHWH was already used as joke in Howard the Duck. (I don't know that was canon description of him though) Compared to it , I don't think portrayal of GR really anti-christian.

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Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 14:52:36 No.110238586 Report

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>>110228273
But can he beat Cosmic Ghost Rider?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 14:56:08 No.110238650 Report

Quoted By: >>110239299

blaze, ketch or kenshiro?

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Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 14:57:35 No.110238674 Report

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>>110232402
My dude, I think you're living in the 90s

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Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 14:58:56 No.110238699 Report

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>>110238239

Well at least we have more crazy religious folks who would shoot you or throw bomab at you if you talk bad or mock their religious figures.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 15:01:38 No.110238738 Report

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>>110237815
an infected dead celestial crashed landed on the planet eons ago and thats where life came from

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Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 15:09:13 No.110238865 Report

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>>110231266
Pain, as we mortals understand it, is really quite a trivial thing. It is a biological response to stimulus, a warning of immediate bodily harm. So trivial is this response that there are those who can steel themselves against it, or, even, perceive it as pleasure.

But a wound of the soul is no mere mortal pain. It is to gouge at one's very essence. Such agony can neither be endured nor enjoyed. And this is only the smallest of abrasions. Imagine what it must be like to have it burned away, those eternal agonizing moments before you're hollowed out, made a lost vessel who's only purpose is to suffer from then on?

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Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 15:12:47 No.110238925 Report

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>>110238239
>Wrong. I still see this shit daily. People tell me im going to hell over a goddamn t shirt
What shirt? With one like this, you're asking for it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 15:16:02 No.110238973 Report

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>>110228273
>it feels like a lot of cats could take him pretty easy.

Did anyone else read this and take it literally at first?
I was so confused for like a minute or two, stuck on the image of Ghost Rider struggling against a pack of stray cats

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Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 15:32:00 No.110239299 Report

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>>110238650
Blaze, but Zero is the best non paranormal adaption of the character

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Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 15:35:50 No.110239373 Report

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>>110231660

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Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 15:39:35 No.110239441 Report

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>>110239373
>issue number 666
It’s the little things

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Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 16:09:48 No.110240055 Report

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>>110231660
>>110239373
I despise X kills the Marvel Univers books but I'd read the shit out of this if It's about Johnny and Danny (maybe Robbie too) putting Marvel's chickens to roost. Knowing my luck it'd be written by Cates and star Cosmic Ghost Rider

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 17:01:55 No.110241119 Report

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>>110239299
Based Zero

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 17:18:26 No.110241426 Report

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>>110228273
I think the thing is that Penance stare for a good while was an instant win. Ketch was basically immortal and blown into nothing and still reaper a second later. Then writers started letting people tank with varying reason. I think the idea that one can endure the suffering they put others through is plausible but no regrets is dumb.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 17:21:38 No.110241484 Report

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>>110238586

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Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 17:24:54 No.110241558 Report

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>>110238586
No, for all the shit we like to give him CGR is outstandingly broken. And I’m glad he’s (for the most part) being left to his corner of the universe to fuck off and be by himself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 18:48:42 No.110243402 Report

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>>110228273
His powers are from literal hell. He's one of the most powerful Marvel heroes as long as he's written at his full official strength and the writers don't conveniently forget how powerful he's supposed to be like they usually do.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 18:50:10 No.110243425 Report

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>>110239373
>Ghost Rider kills The Container Store

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 18:52:11 No.110243469 Report

Quoted By: >>110245553 >>110251362 >>110251462

>>110228273
Strong enough to tank anyone not demi-god or Angel level.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 18:57:44 No.110243561 Report

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>>110231660
He looks like he's having a smashing time, it's so perfect.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 19:39:32 No.110244323 Report

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>>110232341
Marvel's version of Godzilla was Godzilla and it took the Avengers AND F4 to fight him. Foom's a tier or two below.

>>110228273
>Iron Man would take him
Penance Stare. Have you seen what it did to Dr. Strange? Now imagine what it would do to a military weapons dealer.

>Captain Marvel
Maybe if he came back from the dead, yeah.

>Thor
Best chance by far, but if I recall Johnny outran Mjolnir once, so at least a good fight.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 20:33:12 No.110245444 Report

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>>110238239
>And everybody clapped

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 20:39:19 No.110245553 Report

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>>110243469
As much as I hate "muh diversit" This depiction of the Ghost Rider was bad ass.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 20:50:20 No.110245795 Report

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>>110232346
He has been shown to be immune to magic before.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 20:52:56 No.110245854 Report

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>>110233123
The penance stare reflected damage that Doctor Strange had dealt to other demons so it's safe to say alignment or guilt is not a factor.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 20:54:29 No.110245898 Report

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>>110236279
At least Robbie is distinct at a glance.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 20:58:07 No.110245986 Report

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>>110228273
strenght wise he's spidey level of strenght

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 21:01:51 No.110246071 Report

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>>110245986
Its still a pretty good Strength chart, even if a lot of these characters use magic or beam attacks for their actual punching weight.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 21:05:10 No.110246140 Report

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>>110246071
That's the thing, it's not a damage chart, it's a strength chart.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 21:07:00 No.110246186 Report

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>>110246071
i Always laugh when i see the jesus looking guy

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 21:08:30 No.110246213 Report

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>>110229682
Huh...I prefer the comic version when Dr. Strange did it...

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 21:08:57 No.110246224 Report

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>>110246071
Spidey, Surfer can easily replicate all your powers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 21:09:46 No.110246243 Report

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>>110230746
>Maybe Disney forced that, was that during the Disney era?

Disney leadership doesn't know or care.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 21:09:59 No.110246247 Report

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>>110246213
But then how do you explain what Ghost Rider was doing when the world was about to implode?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 21:10:05 No.110246249 Report

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>>110238925
Where one that says that about Muhammad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 21:10:59 No.110246266 Report

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Marc Specter is now the new Ghost Rider and Johnny Blaze is now the new Moon Knight. How well do they do their respective jobs?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 21:13:54 No.110246347 Report

Quoted By: >>110246479

>>110233126
I actually love this bit, it's the first time aliens in comics actually took stock of what Earth had done.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 21:14:34 No.110246355 Report

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>>110246071
Damn, Doc Samson is THAT strong?
Of course there's been some power creep for some characters since, but still pretty good, yeah.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 21:15:23 No.110246376 Report

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>>110237815
It is the home of the most feared being in the universe...

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Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 21:18:25 No.110246441 Report

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>>110246355
Well he's tanked Hulk more than Ben Grimm

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 21:20:11 No.110246479 Report

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>>110246347
Multiple Galactus attacks, plus the Phoenix. Not to mention all the shenanigans with gods. Makes anyone think twice at least.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 21:35:59 No.110246841 Report

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>>110246071
I love how half of them are pissed at Spider-Man for what are his rankings, it gives the reader a good idea without being too limited by what is strictly canon if a writer disagrees.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 21:38:12 No.110246902 Report

Quoted By: >>110249863

>>110246479
Since humanity are baby celestials it only makes sense.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 21:38:36 No.110246909 Report

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>>110245795
This is out of context iirc, Frank had some boost and Strange was not actually strange

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 22:03:03 No.110247510 Report

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>>110246909
Sure, sure, losing his wife makes him resistant to happiness magic, I'm just saying there's a pattern.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 22:08:24 No.110247640 Report

Quoted By: >>110248046

>>110246071
>>110246186
Is that Super Jesus?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 22:18:39 No.110247909 Report

Quoted By: >>110252055

>>110230130
The entire comic book industry did. Motorcycle rididing ghost rider is from the 70's, where D+D and rock music hysteria was in full swing.

It just wasn't as big of a deal, compared to EC comics and the like.

Think of it like Satana, and marvel's idea of maximum edgy for them at the time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 22:23:57 No.110248046 Report

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>>110247640
Basically, yes.
It's Wundarr the Aquarian.
His origin is Superman's, and his attitude is Jesus.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 22:24:25 No.110248055 Report

Quoted By: >>110248159 >>110249912 >>110249957

>>110232341
>>110232303
>>110244323
Clearly Tony needs to build "anti ghost rider armor". What the FUCK would that be?

And how does ghost rider deal with the whole flying thing.

>>110239373
10/10. Would bag, board and have graded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 22:28:35 No.110248159 Report

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>>110248055
Frank Castle in one of those baby backpack things that go on the front.

>"It's as embarrassing as it is for me, as it is for you."

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 22:52:00 No.110248741 Report

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>>110237815
It's the equivalent of Gary Indiana for America, or the Democratic Republic of Congo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 23:15:41 No.110249275 Report

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One of GR's weaknesses (specifically Blaze) is that he is gullible. You see this a lot in the mid 2000's run with Lucifer. He could probably be tricked into thinking that Roxanne was a hologram or something.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 23:44:02 No.110249863 Report

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>>110246902
I like to NOT think about that crap.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 23:46:28 No.110249912 Report

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>>110248055
>Clearly Tony needs to build "anti ghost rider armor". What the FUCK would that be?
Sure, would work as well as any other "anti xxx armor", so why not.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 23:49:11 No.110249957 Report

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>>110248055
Anti-Ghost Rider armor would be more like a suit for the Ghost Rider that was forged with Enochian seals or something to act as a seal.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 23:51:35 No.110250001 Report

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>>110232367
It's not an I Win button you fucking impatient underage faggot, it's a coup de grace. Fucking kids have no appreciation for showmanship.

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Anonymous Tue 24 Sep 2019 00:32:00 No.110250964 Report

Quoted By: >>110261124

All I want is a series where a GR wanders around the American Southwest dealing with random demon shit, riding into town to deal with it and riding out when it's done, like a modern day supernatural Western hero. That's all they have to do. Keep him far away from the regular Marvel supervillain bullshit unless they have to call in the really big guns.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Sep 2019 00:44:52 No.110251253 Report

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>>110228273
Much like Lobo hes only as strong as the writer wants him to be
He can go from punching beings like Mephisto in the dick one minute to getting his ass beat by a werewolf on meth the next.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Sep 2019 00:49:15 No.110251362 Report

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>>110243469
fuck the cgi for this show pisses me off, watch his chin just extend for no reason

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Anonymous Tue 24 Sep 2019 00:53:30 No.110251462 Report

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>>110243469
Blaze tanked Thor twice and Thor had help both times

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Anonymous Tue 24 Sep 2019 00:54:39 No.110251490 Report

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>>110251462

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Anonymous Tue 24 Sep 2019 00:56:48 No.110251563 Report

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>>110228273
Mystic/demonic people never have any really strong definitions in their power.

Most of the time they cannot be killed conventionally so they come off as really durable. Other times they cannot even be hurt unless some kind of magic is being used against them so they are unstoppable when fighting regular or science based heroes.

Ghost Rider is typically around Spider-Man level physically. About 10-20 ton strength, mostly human durability but he cannot be killed since he is a dead guy so he might as well have regeneration. He ignores shit like underwater and outer space because dead again.

Main offense is hellfire which burns for no reason and cannot be put out like regular fire. and occasionally things like chains or knives which also have hellfire on them.

He's not going to wrestle with Hulk or Thor for too long, but they cannot put him down permanently either. Just kick his ass and drop a truck on him or something. Which he will burn through and walk away from.

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Anonymous Tue 24 Sep 2019 00:57:35 No.110251586 Report

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Penance stare worked on Punisher before

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Anonymous Tue 24 Sep 2019 00:59:00 No.110251626 Report

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>>110251586

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Anonymous Tue 24 Sep 2019 01:04:27 No.110251771 Report

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>>110251626
>Nick Fury is dead
kek that's a very hasty assumption

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Sep 2019 01:05:06 No.110251790 Report

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>>110237815
It's like the Straights of Hormuz on the galactic scale. A third world shithole full of crazies that no one wants to deal with, but it is in the major space highway intersections to everywhere.

Earth is perfectly in the middle of contested territory between Kree and Badoon space and whoever controls it controls a huge chunk of space. Which is why the Shi'Ar and Skrulls wanted it for so long. But the planet itself might as well be a backward central asian nothing county with the last name -Stan.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Sep 2019 01:06:36 No.110251829 Report

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>>110238586
Made no sense how he was Thanos' bitch for a few thousand years if the very next mini he could casually kill Thanos with no problem.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Sep 2019 01:07:56 No.110251861 Report

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>>110231062
Wasn't that retconned to pstd when seeing fire tho?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Sep 2019 01:10:05 No.110251915 Report

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>>110244323
Blaze filled Starks armor with hellkite once and the comic that had Carol tank the stare literally dropped the same week as her movie so the Carolwank is obvious, Mar-Vell who knows he's dead and never coming back

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Sep 2019 01:11:31 No.110251946 Report

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>>110251915
>Hellfire

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Anonymous Tue 24 Sep 2019 01:17:19 No.110252055 Report

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>>110247909
70s had lots of edgy "Hey the bible thunpers will hate this!" comics like Son of Satan, The Demon, Damien Hellstorm, Satana,

Ghost Rider at least had some nuance other than "This is the literal son of the devil with a pentagram on his chest and shouts evil bible passages at things!"

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Sep 2019 01:21:01 No.110252126 Report

Quoted By: >>110254374

How is Danny Ketch?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Sep 2019 01:27:02 No.110252240 Report

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>>110251563
>>110232213
This, Ghost Rider is magic and does not really fit into set power levels like most heroes.

He's medium level in strength and ignores physical laws like gravity or momentum because magic bullshit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Sep 2019 02:21:29 No.110253548 Report

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsePyOUvinA

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Anonymous Tue 24 Sep 2019 02:22:07 No.110253559 Report

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>>110252055
Plus he was suppose to be a Daredevil villain.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Sep 2019 02:26:50 No.110253655 Report

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>>110230098
>don't know why it would piss off Christians
It romanticizes the idea of making deals with the devil.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Sep 2019 02:58:56 No.110254374 Report

Quoted By: >>110254740

>>110252126
Most of the tricks Johnny uses nowadays started with Danny, no?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Sep 2019 03:14:45 No.110254740 Report

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>>110254374
General theory is the stare, chains etc are a side effect of when Zarathos absorbed Danny

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Sep 2019 03:27:27 No.110255058 Report

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>>110228273
>like it feels like a lot of cats could take him pretty easy
I don't know why I visualized like fifty house cats just swarming Ghost Rider's ass. I can't stop laughing at it now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Sep 2019 03:46:53 No.110255581 Report

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>>110232468
Nah, he'd fistbump him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Sep 2019 03:54:56 No.110255913 Report

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>>110251586
>Nick Fury
>innocent

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Sep 2019 04:10:05 No.110256655 Report

Quoted By: >>110261096

>>110230130
Not in any of the letter columns I've seen (although there were some complaints about Satana and Son of Satan, one of them from Peter Sanderson who would later become an editor and handbook writer at Marvel). Outside of the first few arcs, GR was mostly a superhero/stuntman series up until Johnny Blaze found out he was possessed. He actually performed fully in public at arenas in Ghost Rider form, with people assuming it was a mask (somehow). Whole stories feel like something you'd see on the Billy Bixby Hulk show.

Also, Google captcha morons really need to learn what a ''bus'' is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Sep 2019 05:27:09 No.110258800 Report

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>>110228273

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Anonymous Tue 24 Sep 2019 07:34:55 No.110261096 Report

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>>110256655
I loved that Hulk show

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Sep 2019 07:36:55 No.110261124 Report

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>>110250964
That's exactly what Way's 2000s run was.

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