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its bad. not good

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 01:15:34 2019 No.110122447 View Reply Original Report

Okay so the influx of Daria thread recently(?) finally motivated me to get off my ass and watch it. Maybe I’m just zoomer scum but its bad? Not in a daria-is-bitchy way but in a the-jokes-arent-funny-story-isnt-entertaining way. I know i’m missing the main context, IE being an American teen in the 90s, but its still bad. Very, very bad.

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Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 01:19:46 No.110122579 Report

Quoted By: >>110122750 >>110123372 >>110129397

why are they eating lasang

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Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 01:20:06 No.110122589 Report

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>>110122447
Yeah it doesn’t work outside of its time. Also it’s one of the few shows where the MC is supposed to be the antagonist of their own story.

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Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 01:21:45 No.110122639 Report

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Zoomers were a mistake

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Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 01:26:28 No.110122750 Report

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>>110122579
It's Monday

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 01:34:29 No.110122969 Report

Quoted By: >>110131628

>>110122447
You kind of had to be there. It was very much a product of its time but doesn't really work if you're not watching it after High School in 1999.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 01:47:43 No.110123362 Report

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>>110122447
>gaga googoo zoomzoom
sorry kiddo, but you have to be 18+ to post here.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 01:48:02 No.110123372 Report

Quoted By: >>110123518

>>110122579
It's Helen's turn to cook and frozen lasagna is all she ever cooks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 01:49:27 No.110123412 Report

Quoted By: >>110123564 >>110123794 >>110124466

What's Daria's cup size? Larger or smaller than Quinn?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 01:51:25 No.110123469 Report

Quoted By: >>110144472

>>110122447
I'm 24. I liked it. It has certain charm.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 01:54:01 No.110123518 Report

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>>110123372
I think it might have started out as a cost-saving thing to only draw one thing in dinner scenes but they turned it into a gag later.

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Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 01:55:45 No.110123564 Report

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>>110123412
Looks like about the same size as Quinn but on a larger frame.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 01:57:03 No.110123598 Report

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>>110122447
your like two months late

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Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 02:04:19 No.110123794 Report

Quoted By: >>110124082 >>110133898

>>110123412
Comparable.

However, I suspect that Daria will develop along the lines of Amy, while Quinn will either stay thin like Rita if she's childless or more like Helen if she has kids. (I have now cursed myself to having someone with an encyclopedic knowledge of the "what it" pictures will come along now and object to such notions.)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 02:15:07 No.110124082 Report

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>>110123794
This. Amy is basically adult Daria, as that episode tried really hard to convey. She'll be an attractive thirty-something virgin that hides her figure behind Christmas sweaters and neckerchiefs.

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Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 02:29:18 No.110124466 Report

Quoted By: >>110126734 >>110130145

>>110123564
>>110123412
Smaller than Quinn the episode where she & Quinn are brides maids the joke was she was more falt chested.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 02:40:06 No.110124697 Report

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Were you watching it with the original soundtrack or the generic songs from the DVDs and streams?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 03:25:19 No.110125692 Report

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>>110122447
I like it, but it's definitely not meant to be watched marathon-style. The setting is too depressing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 04:13:17 No.110126734 Report

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>>110124466
Yeah, but I think it's just relative. The same cup size on a larger frame will look smaller by comparison.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 04:14:44 No.110126765 Report

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>>110122447
I never cared for Daria back in the 90s. I only watched it because I was waiting for some other show.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 04:24:21 No.110126967 Report

Quoted By: >>110127918

Will Daria and Quinn grow closer as they enter adulthood? Split apart like their mother and her siblings? Is there any of Jake's hot mess in either of them?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 05:25:58 No.110127918 Report

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>>110126967
Given the latter half of the last season, I am hopeful that they'll learn from their mother's mistakes, and have a better relationship than they did.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 05:28:04 No.110127949 Report

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>>110122447
All I'm reading is you have shit tastes and probably a virgin.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 05:28:55 No.110127964 Report

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>>110122447
The way you write is grating. 2/10.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 05:36:12 No.110128055 Report

Quoted By: >>110128072 >>110128231

>>110122447
as a 22 year old who only watched this show last year i can say that it's aged poorly. like a lot of what it was doing was probably edgey or counter culture for it's time but like a lot of what daria was judged for is totally normal today. it's a 6/10 and then like a 4/10 in the later seasons

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 05:37:33 No.110128072 Report

Quoted By: >>110128131 >>110128170

>>110128055
but the last season is the best one

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 05:38:44 No.110128089 Report

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Excuse me

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 05:41:06 No.110128131 Report

Quoted By: >>110128160

>>110128072
I'm rewatching it and I'm just now noticing how weird the digital animation is. There's a lot of zooms and pans that looks really bad, and it's really obvious in a lot scenes that the characters are walking in place while the background behind them is moving.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 05:43:24 No.110128160 Report

Quoted By: >>110128221

>>110128131
lol yea thats the only real issue. the writing is top notch, albeit more serious.
the one with the 50s guy is probably the funniest episode of the whole series

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 05:43:47 No.110128167 Report

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Trent is based. Trent's sister is best girl.

Daria is worst cunt in the show. But that was the point.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 05:44:03 No.110128170 Report

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>>110128072
i stopped paying attention when i started to get bored around 3rd season. streaming it is not the way to go.

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Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 05:47:39 No.110128221 Report

Quoted By: >>110128249 >>110129359 >>110130362

>>110128160
I love the 50s guy. But season 4 and 5 are really handicapped by how bland Tom is. He really doesn't have much of a personality besides "kind of agreeable guy who the writers think is witty but it actually kinda grating."

He's like Randy from That 70s Show.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 05:48:11 No.110128231 Report

Quoted By: >>110128309

>>110128055
It's "dated" but so is just about everything. I don't see how that's much of an obstacle unless you're incapable of appreciating anything other than the utmost contemporary. It's far from incomprehensible.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 05:49:26 No.110128249 Report

Quoted By: >>110130425

>>110128221
>tom was bland
yea i think that was the point. most people i discussed this with saw a bit of their 17yo selves in him tho

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 05:54:49 No.110128309 Report

Quoted By: >>110128324

>>110128231
You've got it. Also, the fact that some of it is "dated" makes it even more relevant today. Remember when Jake worked at a tech startup? Bunch of young weirdos. Company got rich because of venture capital and stock valuation. Tons of meaningless marketing buzzwords. The company doesn't even seem to actually serve a purpose. All that stuff was rooted in the dot com bubble era but it fits in perfectly with modern Silicon Valley.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 05:55:56 No.110128324 Report

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>>110128309
>the dot com episode
another last season classic

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 07:47:57 No.110129359 Report

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>>110128221
I'd argue he's distinctive because he isn't a dumb asshole like almost every character.

He exists to elicit reaction from Daria so I wonder if they deliberately wanted to avoid anything extreme in him like they didn't want the audience to particularly like or dislike him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 07:51:23 No.110129397 Report

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>>110122579
They actually addressed the lasagna thing in one QnA around 98-99

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 07:54:46 No.110129429 Report

Quoted By: >>110129623 >>110130341

>>110122447
This show is actually frustrating to watch. Literally nothing happens in each episode. It's just lots of walking and talking then talking while not walking then some more walking. There is no plot every time, nothing to overcome, no antagonist, nothing. Just Daria talks about some shit, Jane agrees, they eat pizza then the episode is over.

How is this peak 90s writing?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 08:17:01 No.110129623 Report

Quoted By: >>110129836

>>110129429
Seinfeld is peak 90s television and it's a show about nothing. Boomers and zoomers think everything has to MATTER for some reason.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 08:39:16 No.110129836 Report

Quoted By: >>110129999 >>110130252

>>110129623
Seinfeld isn't literally about nothing, "show about nothing" is simply how they described the lack of a hook.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 08:59:45 No.110129999 Report

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>>110129836
>Seinfeld isn't literally about nothing
Neither is Daria.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 09:06:09 No.110130037 Report

Quoted By: >>110136567

>Maybe I’m just zoomer scum but its bad?
I hate it how zoomers use question mark when they're making a statement.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 09:10:45 No.110130071 Report

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>>110122447
>I ORDER YOU TO HATE
>I POST VAGUE SUSPICION TO MAKE ALL ARGUMENT AGAINST ME A CONSPIRACY
Wow, go be decapitated in hell, fanatic faggot

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 09:18:38 No.110130116 Report

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>>110122447
>I’m just zoomer scum
This could have summed up your post.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 09:22:45 No.110130145 Report

Quoted By: >>110130231

>>110124466
Who the fuck tailored her dress?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 09:35:48 No.110130231 Report

Quoted By: >>110130305

>>110130145
Bridesmaid dress. They're supposedly designed to have a uniform looks across all particular sizes and body types but they are notorious for not doing so.

The gag is that Daria is shaped just differently enough that the seamstress can't make the dress fit correctly, so she stands out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 09:38:14 No.110130252 Report

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>>110129836
Seinfeld still had episodic plots like George needing the rye bread snuk back into the house, Kramer needing to kidnap Elane's neighbor's dog, or Jerry trying to get a jacket back from Italian performers.

Daria does not even have that much. It's literally just two people having regular casual conversation and that's it. At least Seinfeld conversations were a comedy bit with a punchline each time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 09:45:21 No.110130305 Report

Quoted By: >>110130351

>>110130231
The seamstress would need to be incompetent in order for that to happen. All her dress needs is to be taken in at the sides and for her to stick a pair of falsies in; and that assumes that Daria wasn't fitted before the dress was made. Granted, it'd be entirely within character for Daria to leave out the falsies just so the dress would look terrible on her.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 09:51:48 No.110130341 Report

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>>110129429
It's more of a character study than anything else. She's a person who sees herself as an iconoclast but who comes to realize she's not so different after all. Those kind of character-based shows are not usually about moving forward so much as not losing ground.

I dread the new show. She'll probably be written with all of the annoying character traits that made her an antisocial icon without any of the things that humanized her character. (Think Daria without "The Misery Chick," "Through A Lens Darkly," and "Boxing Daria" to take the edge off of the edgy girl.)

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Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 09:53:52 No.110130351 Report

Quoted By: >>110138132

>>110130305
In case you didn't get it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 09:57:41 No.110130362 Report

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>>110128221
dear god what a mistake of a character

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 09:59:22 No.110130375 Report

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the episode where she got her belly button pierced was hot

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 10:08:48 No.110130425 Report

Quoted By: >>110141130

>>110128249
Does that imply most 17 year olds are bland?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 12:21:57 No.110131628 Report

Quoted By: >>110133863

>>110122969
>doesn't really work if you're not watching it after High School in 1999
Yes it does, I watched Daria in early 2000s in Russia and loved it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 13:22:59 No.110132343 Report

Quoted By: >>110133122 >>110138160

>>110122447
I tried rewatching it a bit ago and introducing it to a friend, and I really couldn’t get him into it either. I think my problem may have been trying to watch it in chronological order. I’m thinking the first season might be kinda weak in retrospect and the show takes a bit to pick up steam.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 14:25:24 No.110133122 Report

Quoted By: >>110133171

>>110132343
Daria's attitude is just no longer relevant or believable in our era. I don't think a zoomer would be able to relate to the situations Daria experienced on the show.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 14:28:18 No.110133171 Report

Quoted By: >>110133186

>>110133122
But my friend I tried watching it with is a millennial like me, he remembers the 90s and he still didn’t like the show.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 14:29:16 No.110133186 Report

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>>110133171
His mind is no longer in the right place, he has been taken over by the new millennium and forgot the spirit of the 90s

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 15:07:53 No.110133863 Report

Quoted By: >>110137228

>>110131628
Well, of course. Russia is 10 years behind the US culturally-speaking. So in 2005, American tv from 1995 is new, hip, and culturally relevant.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 15:09:48 No.110133898 Report

Quoted By: >>110134767

>>110123794
It was interesting that even the "cool" aunt was a fucking mess.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 15:28:18 No.110134298 Report

Quoted By: >>110141154

Where can you watch this show with the original audio?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 15:47:26 No.110134767 Report

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>>110133898
Amy was just fine. She may still have some issues with her sisters but that is not abnormal, to which most people with siblings can attest.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 15:47:27 No.110134769 Report

Quoted By: >>110135049 >>110138188

>>110122447
I really do believe it's the sienfeld effect.

For it's time it was some cool unique slice of life shit. Edgy teen girl sarcastic af as the main character coming of age, that's it. Kinda feministy, calls shit out, jokes just a lil better than the same beevus and butthead. It was a cartoon for teens not kids which wasn't common at all back then. Most cartoons were action packed pre teen shit or if for adults some eXtreme crude humor.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 15:59:04 No.110135049 Report

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>>110122447
>>110134769
>Smart, sarcastic teen in a white-bread suburb cracks wise against her sick, sad world, learning about herself and making friends despite her antisocial tendencies.

It’s not nearly as edgy now because the world in itself is much more edgy. You only have to look at the latest entertainment to see that what we would consider “shock and awe” then is just boring to people who have become desensitized to it when they have everything PUNCTUATED! FOR! EMPHASIS!

It’s a character study disguised as sardonic social commentary. It just may be too subtle for some people.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 16:49:00 No.110136567 Report

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>>110130037
>durr durrr i am mature adult i cant have my writing express emotion that makes it easier to read

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 16:51:25 No.110136633 Report

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>>110122447
>AnimeToon.TV

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 17:16:59 No.110137228 Report

Quoted By: >>110147659

>>110133863
>culturally relevant
Except that we don't have high schools, cliques or suburbs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 17:49:47 No.110138031 Report

Quoted By: >>110138215

The later half is awful, Daria just droves me up the wall with how unreasonable she is

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 17:54:35 No.110138132 Report

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>>110130351
>2.93mb
Is this a joke?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 17:55:37 No.110138160 Report

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>>110132343
The long third season is the weakest. It's full of dumb sitcom stuff like "dad tries to impress the new boss" and "two people who dislike each other go on a car trip"

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 17:56:56 No.110138188 Report

Quoted By: >>110139147

>>110134769
>Kinda feministy
How? It even mocks a shallow man-hating shrew by putting dumb shit in her mouth that's actually quite fashionable today.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 17:57:56 No.110138215 Report

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>>110138031
but that's the point; she isn't the "fact and logic" demigod she seems to think she is.

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Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 18:35:36 No.110139147 Report

Quoted By: >>110141656

>>110138188
Sure they make fun of one extremest feminist but they also mock incles with the nice guy nerd hitting on every woman and whining about girls not liking him. Daria, Jane, Helen and Jodie all say standard feminist women are equal and get offended by the men when they are talked down to. Not to mention every boy is an idiot except token black guy and her bf. At least some of the girls had personality but every guy was an idiot.

I'm fine with it cause I don't got a chip on my shoulder about feminism in shit. Like whatever women are equal fine. But it's just funny seeing /co/ bring up Daria as some waifu when she'd verbally mace any dude from here if they ever got 10 feet near her. Even her boyfriend is a feminist. If he was a real dude yall would call him a basedboy cuck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 19:37:10 No.110140603 Report

Quoted By: >>110143162

>>110122447
Damn kids. This show brings me right back to picking mall foodcourt nachos out of my braces

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 19:58:03 No.110141130 Report

Quoted By: >>110142599

>>110130425
Most people in real life are bland. But it's the job of a good writer to distill the interesting parts out of real life into something interesting. If you had a movie that's nothing but a guy going to work for a week and coming home and watching TV until bedtime that'd be relatable, but it wouldn't be good writing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 19:59:04 No.110141154 Report

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>>110134298
search for the Daria Restoration Project

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Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 20:05:39 No.110141312 Report

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>>110122447
>Maybe I’m just zoomer scum
You should have stopped right there and closed your post.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 20:20:30 No.110141656 Report

Quoted By:

>>110139147
>every guy was an idiot
Not Mr. DiMartino, Jodie's dad, the guy Daria met at the wedding, the boy from the gifted school (not an idiot, just an asshole), Chuck (not an idiot, just a creep), Quinn's tutor, Jane's dad, the dad and son from Helen and Jake's hippie friend group, the homeschooled kid Daria almost dated, Helen's coworker Eric, the male holidays...

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 21:03:04 No.110142599 Report

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>>110141130
I suppose. It would be a comfy watch with some relaxing music though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 21:31:22 No.110143162 Report

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>>110140603
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0v5MzhOMYc

Mall goths in their natural habitat.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 22:24:38 No.110144447 Report

Quoted By: >>110144800

>>110122447
This was considered edgy in my day, kid. Now being a moral, clean cut, white Conservative with an intact family is edgy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 22:25:40 No.110144472 Report

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>>110123469
You're not a zoomer. You're a millennial adult about to be over the hill in a year.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 22:33:13 No.110144632 Report

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Hey, man.
Life wasn't easy in the 90s if your last name was Morgandorfer.

Especially if you missed your stop because somebody was standing on your neck.

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Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 22:40:24 No.110144800 Report

Quoted By: >>110145842

>>110144447
>Now being a moral, clean cut, white Conservative with an intact family is edgy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 23:28:11 No.110145842 Report

Quoted By:

>>110144800
maybe feminists ARE ruining star wars

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Sep 2019 00:42:27 No.110147659 Report

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>>110137228
True. You have barns, snow, and beets instead.

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