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Anonymous Sat 20 Apr 23:48:12 2019 No.107111935 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>107111958 >>107112010 >>107112098 >>107112270 >>107113193 >>107114168 >>107121453 >>107122914 >>107123059

>uses his lightning hands and powers almost all the movie
>doesn't use them at all in the final fight except for one instance
This bugged the shit out if me more than it should have.

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Anonymous Sat 20 Apr 2019 23:49:35 No.107111958 Report

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>>107111935
dude just FUCKING turn off yo brain and watch

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Apr 2019 23:52:17 No.107112010 Report

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>>107111935
The scene with the bus is meant to set up the fact that lightning is unwieldy and can harm civilians, Shazam can't handle it very well.
Only sparingly.

And the whole fight is in a city or around people

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Apr 2019 23:54:18 No.107112042 Report

Quoted By: >>107112142 >>107112236 >>107112859

>>107112010

i also assumed that Siviana was like immune to it or something

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Apr 2019 23:57:56 No.107112098 Report

Quoted By: >>107112187

>>107111935
>shoot him in the face!

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Anonymous Sun 21 Apr 2019 00:00:18 No.107112142 Report

Quoted By: >>107112236

>>107112042
He does "grab" that incoming lightning bolt right after he gets the eye (when the negro wizard attacks him)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Apr 2019 00:02:48 No.107112187 Report

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>>107112098
All I could think of during that scene was First Thunder

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Anonymous Sun 21 Apr 2019 00:05:14 No.107112236 Report

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>>107112042
>>107112142
He could've done it against the Sins though.

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Anonymous Sun 21 Apr 2019 00:06:46 No.107112270 Report

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>>107111935
Because HE is a child

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Apr 2019 00:08:23 No.107112300 Report

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>>107112236
I mean he used Lightning with Envy but it really didn’t do much aside from have him dissipate for a minute

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Anonymous Sun 21 Apr 2019 00:10:29 No.107112332 Report

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>>107112270
Cute

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Anonymous Sun 21 Apr 2019 00:13:44 No.107112402 Report

Quoted By: >>107112456 >>107112690 >>107114598

>>107112332
Freddy would not think he became a woman since Captain Marvel looks like this now

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Apr 2019 00:17:26 No.107112456 Report

Quoted By: >>107112516 >>107112690 >>107114424

>>107112402
dumb cherrypicking incel

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Apr 2019 00:20:43 No.107112516 Report

Quoted By: >>107112536

>>107112456
I’ve only seen Carol with a 14 year old boy’s haircut look great once, and that was during Civil War 2, sadly, that shit was written by Bendis, so thank fucking god for Carol’s War. Everywhere else she looks like a post op tranny whose surgeon got drunk and stopped paying attention half way through the operation.

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Anonymous Sun 21 Apr 2019 00:21:49 No.107112536 Report

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>>107112516
dumb casualgate incel doesn't even know that a) Carol has long hair again b) this is a Shazam thread you complete autist

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Anonymous Sun 21 Apr 2019 00:29:07 No.107112688 Report

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>>107112536
First off, I am aware that carol looks like a woman again, secondly I’m fully aware which thread I’m in. Anon posting Carol is what is called a derailment, as in, the thread has been derailed, for example, let’s say hypothetically there is a thread discussing Spider-Man’s villains, a few posts in someone mentions Flash’s Rogues, then the thread suddenly becomes about comic book villains fighting each other rather than just spider-man’s villains. Once you’ve hung around this board long enough you’ll start to pick up on these things.

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Anonymous Sun 21 Apr 2019 00:29:16 No.107112690 Report

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>>107112402
>>107112456
I lost it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Apr 2019 00:40:23 No.107112859 Report

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>>107112042
I'd worry that Sivana could absorb his magic through the lightning

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Apr 2019 01:00:12 No.107113193 Report

Quoted By: >>107113402 >>107113441 >>107114867 >>107117560 >>107117893

>>107111935
I was more bothered by wisdom not coming up even once after he first gets his powers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Apr 2019 01:14:36 No.107113402 Report

Quoted By: >>107114090

>>107113193
Wisdom could have taught him how the staff work, but it does bother me that there's never an explicit moment that shows when his Wisdom kicks in. Though, how would you even present the Wisdom of Solomon as opposed to regular wisdom?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Apr 2019 01:16:52 No.107113441 Report

Quoted By: >>107114090

>>107113193
what about the scene where he lures Envy out of Sivana? That was definitely an high IQ tactic

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Apr 2019 01:19:18 No.107113494 Report

Quoted By: >>107113907 >>107114131 >>107114238 >>107117379 >>107117666 >>107117994 >>107124034

>only $300 million
This movie deserves better bros

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Apr 2019 01:41:36 No.107113907 Report

Quoted By: >>107114288 >>107126695

>>107113494
To be fair Shazam didn't have much traction beforehand as a character. Besides, it made as much as it needed to, and enough to justify the sequel and Black Adam solo movie.

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Anonymous Sun 21 Apr 2019 01:42:09 No.107113913 Report

Quoted By: >>107113950 >>107114037

>be me
>first contact I ever heard with Captain Marvel was when I was a teenager with the JLU cartoon
>since I was in the phase when I started having repulse towards kiddy stuff I find him lame because the concept of a kid turning into a grown man was too kid-friendly for me
>now as an adult I find the concept awesome because it reminds me of a time where I wasn't a depressive nihilistic adult and was still allowed to feel optimism

Is the new 52 Shazam worth reading or should I start with the golden age stuff?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Apr 2019 01:44:36 No.107113950 Report

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>>107113913
Start with Golden Age. nu52 Shazam isn't that bad but Sivana is kinda boring and Billy is an edgeshitter at first.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Apr 2019 01:49:55 No.107114037 Report

Quoted By: >>107117604

>>107113913
I you really liked the movie and can't stand old school comics, New 52.
Otherwise, the Golden Age stuff is largely public domain, and some madlad storytimed Monster Society of Evil, should still be around in the archives. There's a lot of great stuff between it, though, I'm partial to the Ordway and Jeff Smith runs myself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Apr 2019 01:53:36 No.107114090 Report

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>>107113402
I dunno. I guess make him more insightful and have a character comment on it.

>>107113441
That's a good point.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Apr 2019 01:55:58 No.107114131 Report

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>>107113494
The advertising just wasn't great.

I only went because I felt like seeing a movie and nothing good was showing, and it ended up being my favorite comic movie in years.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Apr 2019 01:58:47 No.107114168 Report

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>>107111935
Probably wasn't too keen on using the lightning hands as much after the whole bus incident.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Apr 2019 02:03:16 No.107114238 Report

Quoted By: >>107114322

>>107113494
next time don't sandwich your release between two MCU movies

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Apr 2019 02:06:13 No.107114288 Report

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>>107113907
Yeah, movie was great and we're getting more, so at this point I don't give a shit about the box office.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Apr 2019 02:07:59 No.107114322 Report

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>>107114238
>sandwiched
A month had passed since CM came out but okay.

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Anonymous Sun 21 Apr 2019 02:15:14 No.107114424 Report

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>>107112456
this is the first and last time that costume+short hair was ever good

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Apr 2019 02:25:37 No.107114598 Report

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>>107112402
>Spider-woman, I...

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Apr 2019 02:42:02 No.107114867 Report

Quoted By: >>107115195

>>107113193
I counted about 3 times it could have useful, but wasn't there Most annoyingly:
>See Sivanna heal from the baterang after absorbing the sins
>Has to be told the sins power him up

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Apr 2019 03:00:28 No.107115195 Report

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>>107114867
To be fair, we don't know if he did have to be told that or pieced it together on his own, just that the others tried to make sure that if he hadn't already guessed it, he knew going into that

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Apr 2019 04:14:30 No.107117379 Report

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>>107113494
The marketing wasn't very good. It's tripled it's budget so it's probably going to get a sequel

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Apr 2019 04:19:43 No.107117560 Report

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>>107113193
He seemed pretty serious about the sins just using Sivana (to what end, who knows) and that they weren't on his side.

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Anonymous Sun 21 Apr 2019 04:20:58 No.107117604 Report

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>>107114037
Jeff Smith did the newer Monster Society book, right?

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Anonymous Sun 21 Apr 2019 04:22:46 No.107117666 Report

Quoted By: >>107117730 >>107124034

>>107113494
I know. It legit breaks my heart. Hopefully Bluray sales and word of mouth will help.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Apr 2019 04:24:50 No.107117730 Report

Quoted By: >>107117954 >>107118057 >>107118314

>>107117666
It's not like it's a flop man

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Apr 2019 04:28:42 No.107117893 Report

Quoted By: >>107118587

>>107113193
I think it was to give him a more complete arc. He discovers more and more of his powers throughout the movie, and I think he discovers the physical attributed first, so he can screw off with them, and the mental attributes last, discovering the Courage of Achilles to finally face Sivana head on, and the Wisdom of Solomon to finally outsmart him, power up the Shazam Family, and trick Envy out of Sivana.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Apr 2019 04:30:30 No.107117954 Report

Quoted By: >>107118076 >>107122873 >>107124034

>>107117730
It still hasn't sold as many tickets domestically as Green Lantern. Or Incredible Hulk. Or fucking Ghost Rider.
Its low budget is the ONLY thing saving it from disaster.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Apr 2019 04:31:58 No.107117994 Report

Quoted By: >>107118086

>>107113494
It does, but that's not bad for a low budget film

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Anonymous Sun 21 Apr 2019 04:34:10 No.107118057 Report

Quoted By: >>107118270

>>107117730
I love this.
If Captain Marvel had pulled only triple its production budget ($456 million), you'd be on here spamming OHNONONO along with half of /co/ (and myself, probably).

Instead I have to listen to you bargain that its doing FINE.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Apr 2019 04:34:48 No.107118076 Report

Quoted By: >>107118198

>>107117954
Looks like they learned that you have to start small and build up a fanbase in most cases

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Apr 2019 04:35:17 No.107118086 Report

Quoted By: >>107118355

>>107117994
$100 million is only low budget by the bloated standard of the modern stand-alone cape movie.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Apr 2019 04:39:01 No.107118198 Report

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>>107118076
If it helps, Ghost Rider got a sequel at this level.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Apr 2019 04:41:10 No.107118270 Report

Quoted By: >>107118297

>>107118057
No because company war shitposting is retarded. If tripling your budget isn't profitable the MCU has 3 flops which we know it does not

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Apr 2019 04:42:12 No.107118297 Report

Quoted By: >>107118328

>>107118270
It's about break-even, which isn't a disaster but isn't FINE.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Apr 2019 04:42:45 No.107118314 Report

Quoted By: >>107118364

>>107117730
Be that as it may, it certainly could've done better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Apr 2019 04:43:18 No.107118328 Report

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>>107118297
And it still has more money to come. It's not some Fant4stic disaster

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Apr 2019 04:44:12 No.107118355 Report

Quoted By: >>107118408

>>107118086
I thought it was like 80-85 million.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Apr 2019 04:44:20 No.107118364 Report

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>>107118314
Yeah it could have. The marketing wasn't very good and those Endgame tickets going on sale couldn't have helped

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Apr 2019 04:45:47 No.107118408 Report

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>>107118355
$100 million officially.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Apr 2019 04:51:48 No.107118587 Report

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>>107117893
Piggy backing off what this anon said, at the very end he uses the little moments to gain the upper hand.
>remembers bad guy boast about only magic being able to hurt magic and that batrang is replica and really fucking sharp. Uses it as a conductor for his lightning magic and stabs badgiy.
>remembers the sons and what they look like disputes never seeing them or knowing anything outside their names. Uses this to work out final plan, also remembers snide remarks badguy has made to speak to his sin encouraging it to come out.
>bad guy has bad guy moments where he’s theatrical. Grabs staff at the exact moment senpai is free and bad guy is still in his moment. Including a flashback that was the same scene playing again where he repeats what old wiz guy said.

I am really stoned right now and just saw the movie for the first time. I am going to go type out a rant/paper about the specific uses of the 3 flashbacks and how not only the placements in the story but also how each showcases using a flashback to tell the story and not to explain to the audience what previously happened asa reminder or a reveal. (Technically that’s what the 2nd one is but if the movie was a 1:1 comic you can bet your ass the panels as she’s describing what happened would be flashback panels.) might post, most likely will delete it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Apr 2019 05:05:28 No.107118988 Report

Quoted By: >>107119107

Does anyone have that golden age panel where Sivana is plotting to just break into Billy’s home and stab him in the middle of the night?

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Anonymous Sun 21 Apr 2019 05:10:57 No.107119107 Report

Quoted By: >>107120066 >>107122951

>>107118988

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Anonymous Sun 21 Apr 2019 05:45:07 No.107120066 Report

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>>107119107
Thanks anon, I was looking everywhere for this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Apr 2019 06:52:36 No.107121453 Report

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>>107111935
Movie is retarded. It's to be expected.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Apr 2019 08:28:12 No.107122873 Report

Quoted By: >>107122896 >>107123056

>>107117954
But all those movies were critical failures that everyone hated. Meanwhile, Shazam is well liked critically from across the board and is an okay success at the box office. Being released so close to Endgame is what hampered it as everyone is saving up time and money to see that instead.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Apr 2019 08:29:46 No.107122896 Report

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>>107122873
What I'm trying to imply from this is that Shazam has legs and has built up good will, whereas Green Lantern, Hulk, and Ghost Rider were critical and general public flops.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Apr 2019 08:31:40 No.107122914 Report

Quoted By: >>107122980

>>107111935
I was more annoyed by Sivana having powers that matched Caps due to Cereal Lord stupidity. It would have been better if his powers had some relationship to the sins.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Apr 2019 08:32:16 No.107122920 Report

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>>107117604
He did and it is great.

They also did an ongoing series set after it, but without Smith's involvement.
"Billy Batson and the Magic of SHAZAM!"
It's fine

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Apr 2019 08:35:31 No.107122951 Report

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>>107119107
>Breaking and entering
Sivana was hardcore. I can see why Supermans arch was inspired by him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Apr 2019 08:38:15 No.107122980 Report

Quoted By: >>107123807

>>107122914
He also doesn't do any mad scientist shit.

Not even regular scientist shit, really.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Apr 2019 08:46:15 No.107123056 Report

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>>107122873
It's in the same boat as First Class both critically and financially. That film got a sequel despite costing 60mil more. Besides WB does things a lot differently to Disney. They're more low risk, low reward orientated while Disney swings for the fences almost every time. Unless I'm missing something WB only has two movies with a budget over 100mil this year while Disney has nothing under 100mil

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Anonymous Sun 21 Apr 2019 08:46:38 No.107123059 Report

Quoted By: >>107123230

>>107111935
Did he? I went to watch the movie but the theatre was so empty that i got sad and left during the trailers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Apr 2019 09:05:13 No.107123218 Report

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Anyone else glad that Billy, Freddie and Eugene aren't weeb to do/suggest a Naruto reference?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Apr 2019 09:06:31 No.107123230 Report

Quoted By: >>107123263 >>107126696

>>107123059
So you just wasted your money?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Apr 2019 09:09:59 No.107123263 Report

Quoted By: >>107126696

>>107123230
Yes, that is his totally true story. It is sad that HE was sad enough to waste his money and walk out. How sad, like him. I mean, like how he was.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Apr 2019 09:10:09 No.107123264 Report

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>"Hee hee haw haw haw!"

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Apr 2019 10:29:21 No.107123807 Report

Quoted By: >>107123837

>>107122980
Yes, definitely.

I mean we'll never see Not Lex again, but at least EIsenlex did some mad science shit in BvS - but we need more of that in superhero movies.

Some of the Hydra stuff done by Zola definitely constitutes mad science but they didn't really play it as much as they could save for the scene where the Red Skull kills off the visiting generals and a few other very small moments. Also, they wasted Zola as a man-machine in TWS, especially since they killed him off.

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Anonymous Sun 21 Apr 2019 10:37:00 No.107123837 Report

Quoted By: >>107124055

>>107123807
>especially since they killed him off.
>implying he didn't use the same connection that alerted the bomber to transfer his consciousness to the cloud

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Apr 2019 11:08:22 No.107124034 Report

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>>107113494
>>107117666
It should do fine and will probably end up sliding in the top 25 domestically of origin films.

>>107117954
Relax - by Monday morning, it will have grossed more than both Ghost Rider and Green Lantern and Billy's film has already done better than both of those films and both of the bombs that were Hulk's origin movies.

Although since you did specific 'sold as many tickets' and you have to adjust those for inflation, Cereal Lord's masterpiece still has another $30-60M in ticket sales or so, which it should also make by the end of its run.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Apr 2019 11:10:28 No.107124055 Report

Quoted By: >>107124806

>>107123837
I'm sure since Red Skull survived, that Zola can be brought back, but they probably won't bother.

The Bucky/Sam Disney+ show will probably try to set up one (or more likely both) of them as the future Captain America, but I presume they will just recast the role in about 6-10 years, once Carol is fully played out and whomever else they add, possibly longer if the X-Men and FF under Feige end up paying out

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Apr 2019 12:57:01 No.107124774 Report

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>>107112236
>>107112300
That kinda bothered me when he flew straight through one of them and didn't think right away about trying lightning.
Also can he do that in the comics? Been wanting to read the Monster Society of Evil but haven't gotten to it yet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Apr 2019 13:00:48 No.107124806 Report

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>>107124055
>once Carol is fully played out
I mean they could start shooting right away

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Apr 2019 13:13:58 No.107124922 Report

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https://twitter.com/HIDEO_KOJIMA_EN/status/1119785604147900416

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Anonymous Sun 21 Apr 2019 13:54:39 No.107125252 Report

Quoted By: >>107125439 >>107126965

I wish Shazam had released a year or so earlier and they actually called the character Captain Marvel by the end of the film.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Apr 2019 14:12:46 No.107125439 Report

Quoted By: >>107125454

>>107125252
So its crushing defeat by the real Captain Marvel could be even more embarrassing for them?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Apr 2019 14:14:10 No.107125454 Report

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>>107125439
No, so the character could actually be called Captain Marvel without WB suits' fears of confusion. Please shove your company wars up your butthole, thanks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Apr 2019 15:53:19 No.107126695 Report

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>>107113907
I don’t get it. Despite only having 1 live action TV series Shazam is pretty iconic as a character. There was a Shazam reference in 2002 Spider-Man. Yet Ant-Man made more.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Apr 2019 15:53:21 No.107126696 Report

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>>107123230
Yes.

>>107123263
Yup, didn't asked my money back since the owner was pretty mad on how he had to play that movie even though no one showed up to watch it.
Pretty sad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Apr 2019 16:13:09 No.107126965 Report

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>>107125252
You want shazam released after Justice League's stink?

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