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Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 06:52:25 2019 No.105930465 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>105930525 >>105930543 >>105930546 >>105930547 >>105930618 >>105930628 >>105931070 >>105931113 >>105931151 >>105931301 >>105932109 >>105932386 >>105933679 >>105933686 >>105934739 >>105934754 >>105935970 >>105944543 >>105945019

I don't use this meme a lot but man this movie embodies "oh right, that happened"

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 06:53:19 No.105930480 Report

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That’s not Wonder Woman

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 06:56:36 No.105930525 Report

Quoted By: >>105930543

>>105930465
I liked it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 06:57:44 No.105930543 Report

Quoted By: >>105930676 >>105940765 >>105945331

>>105930465
>>105930525
timing was bad, that really needed to drop before Infinity War, same with Captain Marvel.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 06:58:03 No.105930546 Report

Quoted By: >>105930963 >>105934659 >>105947633

>>105930465
Eh, I liked it. Did it's job of being an Ant-Man film where Ant-Man does Ant-Man shit while simultanously contributing to the big picture that Endgame will captialize on.

I mean...what more do you want from an Ant-Man movie? It did it's fucking job to the letter without falling short in any meaningful regard, and that's perfectly respectable.

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Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 06:58:09 No.105930547 Report

Quoted By: >>105930656 >>105930676 >>105930788 >>105933763

>>105930465
Black Panther does too. Nothing in it really matters in the grand scheme of the MCU until the ending, just like this movie.
>AatW: Scott's stuck in the Quantum Realm
>Black Panther: Wakanda is more open to the outside world

Just wait for Captain Marvel, which will only really accomplish two things: Establish the Skrulls as a thing and set up her appearance in Endgame.
To be honest, pretty much all of the movies that are aren't either one of the Avengers movies or one featuring an Infinity Stone (CA:FA, Thor 2, GotG, Doctor Strange) either only exist to establish the featured character or tie them into the next Avengers movie. Only the Avengers movies and Civil War have major lasting effects on the MCU overall.

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Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 07:05:20 No.105930618 Report

Quoted By: >>105930676 >>105930857

>>105930465
More like "nothing fucking happened", this movie was pointless, even for Ant-Man himself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 07:06:07 No.105930628 Report

Quoted By: >>105930802 >>105943199

>>105930465
why'd they ditch the super hot short hair?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 07:08:47 No.105930656 Report

Quoted By: >>105930728

>>105930547
Ant-Man and the Wasp + Black Panther essentially represent two of the worst parts of the Marvel Cinematic Universe.

For AATW, it's essentially the usage of movies to present a new idea that may push the narrative of the MCU forward by providing plot devices. Like, this movie only exists to offer the quantum realm.

Then there's BP, where fans completely ignore the wonderful world building, and characters, because they think it's not part of the bigger MCU, or didn't push the MCU far enough.

Whatever.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 07:11:10 No.105930676 Report

Quoted By: >>105930691 >>105930728 >>105930747 >>105930825 >>105931070 >>105933763

>>105930547
>>105930543
>>105930618
>muh stakes
This is the worst kind of comic fan shit that exists. Why does it matter if the movie made a difference to the rest of the MCU? It's a good movie on its own ... who cares if it largely affects the next movie or not?

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Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 07:12:16 No.105930691 Report

Quoted By: >>105934634

>>105930676
>It's a good movie on its own
That's your opinion.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 07:15:29 No.105930728 Report

Quoted By: >>105930768

>>105930656
The first Ant-Man introduced the Quantum Realm, but the second film made it "super important".

As for BP, it pretty much offered nothing to the MCU as a whole. The only thing that changed from before the movie to the end was M'baku being a part of the council so he shows up in Infinity War. Nothing else in the movie carries over to IW, it's all self-contained.

>>105930676
The problem is, the less it deals with the MCU as a whole, the less interesting it is. You're literally defending "just turn your brain off, bro".

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Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 07:17:18 No.105930747 Report

Quoted By: >>105930783 >>105930825 >>105932377

>>105930676
That's all well and good like, 20 years from now, but right now in the moment, they released a regular movie right after the huge blow your brains out crossover movie that ended on a cliffhanger, causing people to overlook ant man and the wasp because it "wasnt important"

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Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 07:19:37 No.105930768 Report

Quoted By: >>105930866

>>105930728
>it's less interesting if it doesn't deal with the MCU as a whole
That's fucking retarded. GotG had almost zero to do with the MCU, and it was great. Iron Man 1 is still the best MCU movie to date, and there's basically nothing until the end about a tie-in of any kind.
Are events your favorite comics too?
> You're literally defending "just turn your brain off, bro
How is that what I said at all?

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Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 07:20:57 No.105930783 Report

Quoted By: >>105930937

>>105930747
It made $100million more than the first movie. Changing that timing wouldn't have made all that much difference.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 07:21:24 No.105930788 Report

Quoted By: >>105930814 >>105930898

>>105930547
I actually predict that the Post credits sequence to Captain Marvel will show Danvers recieving Fury's distress call, Only to crumble into dust shortly after, turning her into one of the many Macguffins the OG6 have to hunt down through time to save the universe.

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Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 07:22:47 No.105930802 Report

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>>105930628
They're saving it for the naked Wasp Ultron arc in phase 4.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 07:23:51 No.105930814 Report

Quoted By: >>105930898

>>105930788
they never pull that off. what you might have is she is in some max jail somewhere and the dusting lets her breakout.

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Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 07:25:10 No.105930825 Report

Quoted By: >>105930863 >>105932377

>>105930676
>Why does it matter if the movie made a difference to the rest of the MCU?
not the issue, like >>105930747 said it came after a major 2 billion dollar explosion that makes most viewers want to see what happens next, not what happen in the past.

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Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 07:28:16 No.105930857 Report

Quoted By: >>105930926 >>105933717

>>105930618
>Was a full introduction to both Wasps
We finally got to see Hope suit up, and we finally got to meet Janet
>Gave us a complicated villain in Ghost, with good motivations who for once didn't die
>Gave us a better picture of the consequences of Civil War and how the Accords actually worked

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Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 07:28:45 No.105930863 Report

Quoted By: >>105930923

>>105930825
Again, what's your point?
It's already been pointed out that more people saw it than the first Ant-Man movie, regardless of when it was released.
And more importantly, why does that matter in any discussion about the movie itself?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 07:28:58 No.105930866 Report

Quoted By: >>105930895 >>105930908

>>105930768
>GotG had almost zero to do with the MCU
>Power Stone
>Thanos involved
>Establishes 5 heroes

>Iron Man 1
>Establishes Tony Stark
Establishing a major main character is important. Now IM2, IM3, and GotG2 have no bearing on anything.

>How is that what I said at all?
>Why does it matter if the movie made a difference to the rest of the MCU? It's a good movie on its own ... who cares if it largely affects the next movie or not?
You said it's just a movie, don't think too much into it.

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Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 07:30:21 No.105930877 Report

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I loved it. FemGhost was cute.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 07:31:57 No.105930895 Report

Quoted By: >>105930906

>>105930866
>You said it's just a movie, don't think too much into it.
I quite literally didn't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 07:32:06 No.105930898 Report

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>>105930788
They'd never kill her off. They want a "super powerful girl who don't need no man to tell her what to do" role model for the young girls and for the screeching feminists to rally behind. Something like >>105930814 is more likely, because it'll be "the man has her locked up for being to radical".

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Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 07:33:11 No.105930906 Report

Quoted By: >>105930928

>>105930895
>Doesn't matter if it makes a difference to the other films
>Good movie on it's own

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 07:33:23 No.105930908 Report

Quoted By: >>105930951

>>105930866
>Ant-Man had almost zero to do with the MCU
>develops two heroes
>lots of backstory for a new side of the MCU
>introduces quantum realm
>sets Scott up to be one of the main Avengers in Endgame
Gee look, you can play this game with all the movies!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 07:35:16 No.105930923 Report

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>>105930863
You seem somewhat defensive to what was a passing comment that they rather have seen it drop before IW.
Also that extra amount was due to more international screenings the first didn't have.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 07:35:23 No.105930926 Report

Quoted By: >>105933658 >>105933751

>>105930857
>Gave us a complicated villain in Ghost
>literally try suicide
>fail
>change her mind and end up almost murdering countless just to fix a fuck up she caused to herself

She is not complicated, she is just retarded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 07:35:26 No.105930928 Report

Quoted By: >>105930970

>>105930906
...what part of that is related to turning your brain off? You're just buzzwording without thinking about what you're saying.

If anything, I'm advocating the opposite of "don't think too much into it." I'm saying look at the movie as a standalone unit, without being bothered by the fact that it's not a major puzzle piece in the MCU. The movie itself should be placed ahead of whatever meta-story there is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 07:36:28 No.105930937 Report

Quoted By: >>105930969

>>105930783
It also was opened to about 3 times the theaters as the first so that's hardly a good sign.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 07:37:38 No.105930951 Report

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>>105930908
Establishing a character is a given in every single MCU movie. The Ant-Man movies give us Scott & Hope, plus the Quantum Realm. Doctor Strange gives us Stephen and the Time Stone. GotG gives us Quill/Gamora/Drax/Rocket/Groot and the Power Stone. Et cetra.

But Black Panther doesn't do anything that important other than "Shuri is smart". T'challa was already established in Civil War, and none of the events in the movie cause an effect to the outside world.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 07:38:20 No.105930963 Report

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>>105930546
This

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Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 07:39:07 No.105930969 Report

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>>105930937
>Ant-Man
>3,856 theaters
>AMatW
>4,206 theaters
Your math is really killing it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 07:39:11 No.105930970 Report

Quoted By: >>105930994

>>105930928
>I'm saying look at the movie as a standalone unit, without being bothered by the fact that it's not a major puzzle piece in the MCU.
That's literally "don't think about anything else, just this movie". Why are you failing to grasp this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 07:40:48 No.105930983 Report

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it's a "that happened" movie not because it doesn't relate to the MCU but because there is literally nothing memorable about it

Most people here who haven't watched it since it released probably can't even remember how the third act goes and the ending was fucking bullshit

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 07:41:48 No.105930994 Report

Quoted By: >>105931031

>>105930970
Because all that shit is superficial to the film itself. Thor 2 introduced one of the Infinity Stones ... does that mean it's more interesting than Ant-Man and the Wasp?

Judging a movie for its impact on the franchise is fucking retarded.

A good movie is a good movie regardless of what connections it has to another one. Are you incapable of judging a movie on its own merits?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 07:42:38 No.105931002 Report

Quoted By: >>105931033 >>105931044

REMINDER
you will never see GHOST in the MCU ever again
Marvel now has Kitty Pryde who is in the top 10-15 fan favorite/most important mutants

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 07:42:40 No.105931005 Report

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The movie didn't explore enough the things stablished in the first film, it didn't grow a it just did more of the same. The Quantum Realm was barely in this and it looks like it was done becasue Marvel wants to use it for Endgame.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 07:44:23 No.105931031 Report

Quoted By: >>105931045 >>105931104

>>105930994
>Thor 2 introduced one of the Infinity Stones ... does that mean it's more interesting than Ant-Man and the Wasp?
I think Iron man 3 was more interesting than Antman and wasp. But that's because Antman and wasp was so paint by the numbers in plot and all the McGuffin shit, more so near the end just made it a bad film.

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Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 07:44:28 No.105931033 Report

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>>105931002
>top 10-15 fan favorite/most important mutants
That's not the compliment you think it is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 07:45:41 No.105931044 Report

Quoted By: >>105931056 >>105932087 >>105932108 >>105932175 >>105936632

>>105931002
We likely won't see most of these C-listers again. When they make X-men, that's the end of Avengers era, X-men will sell stupid well and be the RDJ replacement.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 07:45:43 No.105931045 Report

Quoted By: >>105931076

>>105931031
>But that's because Antman and wasp was so paint by the numbers in plot and all the McGuffin shit, more so near the end just made it a bad film.
Hey look, you're doing it! An actual reason to not like the movie!
I don't necessarily agree with you, but at least you understand that you can critique a movie without focusing on how "important" it is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 07:47:05 No.105931056 Report

Quoted By: >>105931087

>>105931044
I'm still not sure who the face of the X-Men is going to be.
I don't think they can have it be Wolverine, because people won't take to a Jackman replacement right away. Same with Professor X.
Cyclops, maybe?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 07:48:09 No.105931070 Report

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>>105930465
It was okay. I wanted more of both Hope and Janet, and I wish they had actually even tried to adapt Ghost's actual character instead of just the aesthetic. But I liked it, the vibe was funny and comfy, the action scenes with Hope were cool, I still think the size-changing powers look as shit on screen, and the story was serviceable and satisfying on principle as a Janet fan.

>>105930676
This

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Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 07:48:49 No.105931076 Report

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>>105931045
pretty sure the other anon is just goading for (You)s I do it when killing time at my lab because you just have to catch that one anon that has the same free time or passion to the topic. I've defended movies I didn't like because it made hours movie by faster as I waited for spindowns or other boring work in the lab. You should always assume the post here are not genuine.

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Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 07:49:48 No.105931086 Report

Quoted By: >>105931099

What do you guys think Ant-Man 3 is going to be about? I want the full exploration of Quantum Realm tha was blue balled in this, Modok or a straight up Kaiju film

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 07:49:57 No.105931087 Report

Quoted By: >>105931145

>>105931056
>because people won't take to a Jackman replacement right away
I'm pretty sure they will be ok with it. He did the gig for over 20 years and had a swan song ending to the character. Most would be willing.

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Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 07:50:06 No.105931089 Report

Quoted By: >>105931118

I think AM&TW is the most perfect example of a comic book adaptation. It was a mostly fun if low impact adventurer that was ruined by event bullshit.

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Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 07:50:57 No.105931099 Report

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>>105931086
I don't think we will see much of the old MCU here soon. FF and Xmen on top of the stakes of Endgame I wouldn't be shock if they rap it up and reboot it, more so if Captain Marvel under performs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 07:51:28 No.105931104 Report

Quoted By: >>105931140

>>105931031
>so paint by the numbers in plot and all the McGuffin shit
I thought it was pretty boring but one thing I'll give it is it's story is no where near paint by numbers
doesnt really have a main antagonist, just three other parties trying to catch the protagonists, and the protagonists goal is independent of them

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 07:52:10 No.105931113 Report

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>>105930465
It's genuinely my second favorite MCU film. I still need to watch the first one though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 07:52:44 No.105931118 Report

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>>105931089
AM&TW was ruined not by one but by 3 events in the MCU. The ANTS can't catch a break.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 07:54:51 No.105931140 Report

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>>105931104
How it all work was very paint by the numbers. A main antagonist isn't paint by the numbers, what they do, is what makes it paint by the numbers. I mean in the first 15 minutes we get a scene that you can verbatim 1 for 1 of a trade for goods going south, only to have a 3rd party get the goods like we have seen a dozen times before.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 07:55:25 No.105931145 Report

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>>105931087
I'm not saying they won't be okay with him being replaced, but I think it'll be a stretch to make him the main dude. When he shows up (hopefully as a short hairy guy this time), fans will definitely get excited.

Since I'm on the subject, here's my dream intro:

>Mutants teased in a post-credits, because that's what the MCU likes to do
>it's Xavier announcing on TV that he's ready to come public with the school
>X-Men: Beginnings movie where we see flashbacks to Charles starting the school mixed with present day missions now that they're public
>no Magneto yet
>Movie ends, post-credits - Fury shows up at the X-Mansion, shot exactly like the IM1 post-credits
>He says "what, you think we didn't know about you guys?"
>"We're always 10 steps ahead. Meet my friend, your new student, Logan."
>boom it's a short hairy wolverine who has been a shield asset (but still very much independent) for years
It's full of fan service, but I'd dig it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 07:55:53 No.105931151 Report

Quoted By: >>105931165

>>105930465
I like the first a lot more.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 07:56:59 No.105931165 Report

Quoted By: >>105931198 >>105932491

>>105931151
Is it me or the first film also looked less dull and more vibrant?

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Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 08:01:53 No.105931198 Report

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>>105931165
For most of the film yes but I wonder if that had to do with how the budget was used in Antman. Lot more particle effects in Ants and Wasps, however much more cgi rooms and stages. The first had a lot more cgi suit work and ants but the majority of it was real stage work and scenes, like when Yellowjacket jumps out of the pool they actually filmed it rather than cgiing the whole thing while slapping water for effect.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 08:04:17 No.105931223 Report

Quoted By: >>105931234 >>105931238 >>105931348

Some of you guys sound like those who exclusively follow comic events while ignoring the main stories for every character. These movies still have to stand on their own and keep a narrative that works outside the big Avengers stuff, else it's just fluff. And honestly? I liked Ant-Man & The Wasp just as it was, a smaller story that still played a lot with the unique abilities of the heroes, very unlike the others.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 08:05:34 No.105931234 Report

Quoted By: >>105931244

>>105931223
There exist people on this very board who won't read a comic if it doesn't "matter."
Or instantly disregard a book for not being set in 616.
Continuity fags truly are the worst.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 08:05:49 No.105931238 Report

Quoted By: >>105941313

>>105931223
You sound like the type that dosn't read a thread.

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Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 08:07:28 No.105931244 Report

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>>105931234
>getting condescending over products that are just made to earn money and haven't had any soul for the last 30 years

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 08:14:35 No.105931301 Report

Quoted By: >>105932368 >>105932630 >>105933516

>>105930465
We didn't get a giantess Wasp so it gets a 0/10 from me

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 08:19:45 No.105931348 Report

Quoted By: >>105941313

>>105931223
I liked the movie but I ended up being disappointed in some regards. I guess that's mainly because I liked the first one so much that I wanted to see so much more with the things introduced there. I still prefer the first one but what carried the second for me was the cast of characters, the Ant-Man films have a very likeable cast with genuine moments but I felt that it was lacking regarding the action, plot and visuals.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 08:24:31 No.105931389 Report

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pyms wife wasnt really important other than having quantum healing powers
she was the entire point of the whole movie, so maybe they should have spent a tiny bit more time on her and what she means to the bigger picture

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 09:56:37 No.105932019 Report

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>small self contained story
>tight characters
>a good villain in Ghost
>all those cute miniatures
It was pretty dang good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 10:10:44 No.105932087 Report

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>>105931044
>We likely won't see most of these C-listers again.

How can you say that when the fucking Eternals and Shang-Chi are getting movies?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 10:15:49 No.105932108 Report

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>>105931044
Spider-Man barely saw an increase from the previous movies even with Iron Man propping it, it will be the same with X-Men, far from the success the faggots with 90's nostalgia claim.

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Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 10:15:51 No.105932109 Report

Quoted By: >>105932345

>>105930465
This was the most disappointing MCU movie for me. Not the worst, just the most disappointing. I'm a fan of Ant-Man in the comics and I actually loved the first Ant-Man movie. I really like Wasp as well so I was excited to see both the modern Evangeline Lily version and the original Michelle Pfeiffer version. Speaking of which I have really liked Michelle Pfeiffer as an actress ever since she played Catwoman in Batman Returns so seeing her get cast was great. So many cool questions were set up like what the hell would happen to somebodies mind after being trapped in the quantum realm for that long. Ghost is a really cool villain in the comics so I was happy to see them get announced for the film even if they did feel the need to gender and race swap him. Also the concept art of the creatures in the quantum realm looked really great. All in all this movie looked like it could have been fantastic but then instead it was just... okay. Also I'm pissed Wasp got dusted and won't be in Endgame because now we'll probably never see her interact with Cap, Iron Man, Thor etc. She was an original Avenger in the comics so I was hoping she would be on the team for at least one movie.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 10:26:27 No.105932165 Report

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It could have done with some better pacing and timing. The "Scott's suit doesn't work so he's stuck at kid size" gag went on far too long.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 10:26:50 No.105932168 Report

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>trying to badmouth ANTS

do it with a movie that deserves it, like Aquaman.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 10:28:22 No.105932175 Report

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>>105931044
>have to have an entire team of characters replace iron man
Disney must be pretty upset they can't just lock RDJ up and keep him around until he dies and they replace him with CGI.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 10:54:43 No.105932345 Report

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>>105932109
I agree with almost all of this, although I have slightly warmer feelings about the movie

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 10:59:53 No.105932368 Report

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>>105931301
Based

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Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 11:00:31 No.105932377 Report

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>>105930825
>>105930747
Great, Marvel succeed in importing the comic's state of mind to the movies. "It isn't worth it if it doesn't have an impact."
And with Endgame where a bunch of characters will be resurrected, they will achieve comic's "death doesn't matter" state.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 11:01:50 No.105932386 Report

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>>105930465
>but man this movie embodies "oh right, that happened"
Not really. Not at all, even. It was a great movie. I don't think you are good at using memes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 11:08:56 No.105932437 Report

Quoted By: >>105932661

AntMan and Wasp was enjoyable as all fuck, so I’m glad it happened.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 11:15:50 No.105932491 Report

Quoted By: >>105932765

>>105931165

I agree. The first movie had it's own style and didn't tap so much into the MCU formula. That was my main problem with the second movie; it looked so much like all the other ones I couldn't get into it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 11:34:14 No.105932625 Report

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It felt like a TV movie with a big budget and some slightly interesting visuals

The conflict feels like it wasn't even really there

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 11:35:17 No.105932630 Report

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>>105931301
You get a child size Ant-Man looking up at normal sized Wasp. From that perspective it's kinda a same thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 11:42:03 No.105932661 Report

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>>105932437
This.
My parents usually do the direct DVD Netflix and I put films on their list cause they don't know what else to watch. Out of the three MCU films last year, this one wsa the one my mom stood awake through.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 11:57:29 No.105932765 Report

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>>105932491
I actually feel the exact opposite. I thought the first film felt a lot like Iron Man while the second film came into its own style.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 12:05:28 No.105932811 Report

Quoted By: >>105933532 >>105938195

Every time a film like Infinity War revives my enjoyment of Marvel Studios, movies like Ant-Man and the Wasp come along to remind me why I hate it. How I missed blushing from second hand embarrassment at the pathetic attempts at humor. How I missed the shameless "exposition scene" and the contrived plot turns to justify a sequel.
The fact that you people forgive the screenwriting, dialogue, lack of any artistic flair, and actually claim its like the comics, is why we're considered manchildren.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 12:29:15 No.105932948 Report

Quoted By:

It was a nothing movie that did nothing and meant nothing. It's a mindless popcorn flick that you're meant to consume for the two hours you watch it then you forget about it by the next day.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 13:49:22 No.105933516 Report

Quoted By:

>>105931301
That scene of Ghost being thirsty for Scott was enough

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 13:51:31 No.105933532 Report

Quoted By:

>>105932811
>How I missed blushing from second hand embarrassment at the pathetic attempts at humor
Except the humor in ant and Wasp was actually good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 14:07:05 No.105933658 Report

Quoted By:

>>105930926
Everyone in this movie was Retarded save for Hank's wife and daughter

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 14:08:32 No.105933672 Report

Quoted By:

I thought it was cute. I liked how low stakes it was.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 14:09:00 No.105933679 Report

Quoted By:

>>105930465
This movie was shiiiit, the only thing I remotely like was Scotts interaction with his daughter...

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 14:10:08 No.105933686 Report

Quoted By:

>>105930465
Yeah.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 14:13:41 No.105933717 Report

Quoted By: >>105933792

>>105930857
>Was a full introduction to both Wasps
>We finally got to see Hope suit up, and we finally got to meet Janet
But they've both been DUSTED now so does that matter?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 14:15:39 No.105933742 Report

Quoted By: >>105933759

To be quite honest, I enjoyed AMatW more than the majority of Infinity War. Only the Thor and the GotG scenes played particularly well to me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 14:16:55 No.105933751 Report

Quoted By:

>>105930926
>>change her mind and end up almost murdering countless just to fix a fuck up she caused to herself
She didn't cause it. Her father did.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 14:17:57 No.105933759 Report

Quoted By: >>105933790

>>105933742
>more than the majority of Infinity War. Only the Thor and the GotG scenes played particularly well to me
So, you are saying that you enjoyed 2/3 of the movie ? You know what a majority is, right ?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 14:18:27 No.105933763 Report

Quoted By:

>>105930676
Because every movie so far has "villain is going to press the world destruction" plot. Ultron, Malekith, Ego, Pierce, Killmonger, Mads Mikkelsen. Their methods differ, but the goal is pretty much the same narrative-wise, and when you have the world on the verge of destruction every time, the only difference is what plot device the movie's after credits scene can provide the next Avengera movie with, as >>105930547 said.

Mind you, I don't hate the MCU, but I'm tired every movie's plot ends being a race against the clock to stop the bad guy from bringing the apocalypse.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 14:21:55 No.105933790 Report

Quoted By:

>>105933759
>all those Iron Man in space scenes
>pretty much every scene on Earth
>only 1/3 of the movie
Pretty much the only Thor/GotG scenes were when they rescued him and forging Stormbreaker. By the time they reached Earth the magic of the previous two scenes were gone.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 14:22:01 No.105933792 Report

Quoted By:

>>105933717
It probably won't matter until the last act of Endgame

But there will probably be an Ant-Man 3.
And there's that all female cast MCU movie they want to do, so they could show up there

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 15:49:55 No.105934634 Report

Quoted By:

>>105930691
its mine too

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 15:53:20 No.105934659 Report

Quoted By:

>>105930546
>I mean...what more do you want from an Ant-Man movie?

How about not being a 100x more cringy than the first?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 16:00:28 No.105934708 Report

Quoted By:

The problem with this movie and Thor 3 is they are comedies first and comic book hero movies second, meaning if it's not your brand of humor, it's going to be a 0/10 experience. You will get literally nothing from these movies but a headache.

I think Guardians of the Galaxy 1 and Spider Man Homecoming did a perfect job mixing both aspects, too bad that finesse does not extend to all Marvel properties.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 16:04:30 No.105934739 Report

Quoted By: >>105936722

>>105930465
They put some milkers in the Wasp costume
But they forgot to do the same for Captain Marvel

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 16:04:39 No.105934740 Report

Quoted By: >>105935943

The Ant-Man and Wasp suits are the best hero suits in the MCU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 16:06:04 No.105934754 Report

Quoted By: >>105934769

>>105930465
This was boring as fuck yet it got high ratings.

Why are "critics" so scared to give Disney flicks bad reviews?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 16:07:38 No.105934769 Report

Quoted By:

>>105934754
>what is wrinkle in time and the nutcracker

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 17:41:11 No.105935943 Report

Quoted By:

>>105934740
True, but the Wasp costume needs have a brighter yellow.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 17:43:21 No.105935970 Report

Quoted By:

>>105930465
It came out right after IW. Of course it's going to be more forgettable than the average MCU movie. God you guys are stupid.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 18:25:04 No.105936522 Report

Quoted By: >>105937604 >>105937713

Reminder of what could have been

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 18:32:55 No.105936632 Report

Quoted By: >>105938977

>>105931044

I'd prefer more C-Listers like Shang Chi or Moon Knight getting a shot than more fucking X-Men.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 18:39:15 No.105936722 Report

Quoted By:

>>105934739

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 19:50:15 No.105937604 Report

Quoted By: >>105941313 >>105948226

>>105936522

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 20:00:42 No.105937713 Report

Quoted By: >>105939964

>>105936522
I think they explicitly avoided giving Pym a Yellowjacket suit because of the implications.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 20:37:18 No.105938195 Report

Quoted By: >>105939878

>>105932811
>How I missed blushing from second hand embarrassment at the pathetic attempts at humor

GotG 2 was the worst in this regard

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 21:23:38 No.105938977 Report

Quoted By: >>105939506

>>105936632

I wish we got an Iron Fist movie :(

Just imagine Fiege giving him a Black Panther or Thor Ragnarok treatment as opposed to the garbage Netflix shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 21:54:43 No.105939506 Report

Quoted By: >>105939890

>>105938977

I think Shang Chi fills in the Asian and martial arts focused hero that Feige's been looking for, so I kinda doubt Iron Fist is top priority for Marvel Studios atm.

Not to say I don't want to see Danny on the big screen, just that's what's probably being considered.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 22:18:59 No.105939878 Report

Quoted By: >>105940690

>>105938195
I'm not a fan of Gunn's sense of humor, but I gotta give him that he has style and can imbue his films with a lot of personality that help me stomach his delight in literal winks at the camera or the characters spelling out how exactly they are feeling at any given moment. Same with Ragnarok. Meanwhile watching AatW was like chewing on a piece of cardboard. The only thing I remember from the movie is Walton Goggins for being Walton Goggins. At the end of the day I'll rather have a dumber movie that will entertain me and connect emotionally over a more tempered one that is however completely unremarkable in every conceivable way.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 22:19:34 No.105939890 Report

Quoted By: >>105940788

>>105939506

I agree with you, especially since Disney and Marvel want to tap that China market.

The thing that gives me hope is that Fiege has said in the past he likes Iron Fist and is a fan of the Immortal Iron Fist run, so maybe they'll need another franchise down the line, and Danny can get rebooted like X-Men and FF4.

I do wonder what Shang-Chi will bring to the table. He's a great martial artist, but how is that any different than Bruce Lee/Jet Li/etc? Or what does he bring lore-wise?

I would've taken a biracial Danny if it meant getting an Iron Fist movie with colorful Kun-Lun lore and superpowered martial arts/chi fights.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 22:24:00 No.105939964 Report

Quoted By:

>>105937713
Maybe, Douglas has said that he really wants to suit up and be part of the action. It is still a possibility.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 23:04:49 No.105940690 Report

Quoted By: >>105941863

>>105939878

I agree with you, but I don't think Guardians 2 was as stylized or visually good-looking to the point where it covered up the flaws like the first movie. The writing was obnoxious and everything felt like a chore to sit through.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 23:08:07 No.105940765 Report

Quoted By:

>>105930543
It should have been released in October (the Strange/Thor slot), away from the world cup and in the middle of the gap between IW and EG

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 23:09:16 No.105940788 Report

Quoted By:

>>105939890

It used to be he was just a really good martial artist, now he can manipulate chi well enough to mimic superhuman abilities in short bursts and duplicate himself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Feb 2019 23:37:40 No.105941313 Report

Quoted By:

>>105931238
I read it. There's people here who claim A&TW was basically pointless because "nothing happened" to advance the MCU. WTF? There's more than just the Infinity Stones and Thanos, you know? Once he's done with there will still be movies and stories, not everything has to hinge upon the fate of the universe.
Besides, if rumors are true regarding the Quantumverse, we might get some new characters living in the city that was spotted in the background, making the movie even more relevant.
>>105931348
I can understand that. Though these movies owe a lot to Disney's family themes, because they focused a lot in that while the quantum realm elements were barely a plot in itself.
>>105937604
This looks straight out of Tron Legacy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Feb 2019 00:13:03 No.105941863 Report

Quoted By:

>>105940690
Not that anon, but as someone else who kind of hates Gunn's humor, I found Guardians 2 much easier to watch because it actually let itself be sincere in a lot of moments. That did a lot more for covering up the flaws than a flashy style did, at least for me.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 16 Feb 2019 01:39:54 No.105943199 Report

Quoted By:

>>105930628
exquisite taste

Mister Twister

Mister Twister Sat 16 Feb 2019 03:02:37 No.105944543 Report

Quoted By:

>>105930465
It was enjoyable, but I will never rewatch it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Feb 2019 03:22:35 No.105944868 Report

Quoted By: >>105945782

I’ve grown disenchanted with the MCU for a long while now starting perhaps on Iron Man 3 which was the first movie I skipped haven’t watched to this day.
Eventually that number grew larger and larger to the point from 2016 to today I’ve seen 4/8 MCU films and by the end of 2019 that number will be 5/11.
Yet I don’t have a negative opinion of it or hate the franchise, I’ve only grown disinterested. So I make an effort to list all the movies I haven’t watched in my head with the purpose of eventually watching them when I’m not so burned out.
Every. Single. Time. I forget that Ant-man and the Wasp exists.
Sometimes I see the poster and think “huh, when is this coming out?.” Yet it has been out for nearly eight months.
I can’t talk for the movie’s competence but it barely exists on the internet, I haven’t seen a meme, an article, a thread, a friend mention it when talking about marvel movies, nothing.
Sometimes I wonder if this movie really exists or if it’s just an elaborate prank on me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Feb 2019 03:31:57 No.105945019 Report

Quoted By: >>105945386

>>105930465
Wasp could be completely replaced by any of the other boring average looking leather costume wearing snarky joyless kungfu bitches in the MCU.

I wanted spoiled rich party girl who wants to be a heroine because it will make her popular as fuck.
For gods sake she spent most of her time doing kungfu and bullshit when she could have just fucking flown around in her tiny form just nuking dudes with super powerful wasp stings.

The fuck was the point of most of her action scenes?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Feb 2019 03:55:58 No.105945331 Report

Quoted By:

>>105930543
It should've came out instead of Thor 3
Ragnarok would've been a better fit during last summer

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Feb 2019 03:59:38 No.105945386 Report

Quoted By: >>105945839

>>105945019
they looked cool

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Feb 2019 04:26:46 No.105945753 Report

Quoted By:

Action was good story was just kinda lame.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Feb 2019 04:29:26 No.105945782 Report

Quoted By: >>105947393

>>105944868
Phase 3 is by far the best tbqh, taking all the characters to and beyond their narrative endpoint rather than typical origin movies like Phase 1 or standard sequels like Phase 2.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Feb 2019 04:34:04 No.105945839 Report

Quoted By: >>105946528

>>105945386
Did you see the knife scene?
The fuck was the goddamned point of that shit?
She could stayed small, flew around the room and shot gun blasted them in the face.
Hell her doing the PYM WOMAN OF SCIENCE thing and having minature weapons she can make big from her pouches or back pack while not being that good as a fighter would have been better then what we got.
Not even tony stark was a good fighter when he put the suit on.
He was just a guy in a flying weapons platform who can kind of brawl.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Feb 2019 04:42:08 No.105945940 Report

Quoted By:

I liked it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Feb 2019 05:21:34 No.105946528 Report

Quoted By:

>>105945839
The fights were written with a more 'rule of cool' mindset than with a practical one. The thing of her being a really good fighter was to showcase that she was prepared to use the suit since the first movie and that it was something she really wanted to do, she even was the one that taught Scott how to fight. Even with that said I never felt that she was too good or that she was better than Ant-Man in every way, because it was shown a lot of times how Scott is good fighter on his own and that he saved her a lot of times when it comes to fight Ghost. The downside is that the movie had to nerf Scott in some way because two size changers together are too strong of a team for one person to fight, even with phasing powers.

I do agree that the participation and personality regarding Hope's character in the plot were lacking. They had some cool things for her, like she being mad because she was not invited to fight other Avengers during Civil War but they were small things. At the end of the day it still feels more like film of Ant-Man with Wasp as a side character than a team up between two heros.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Feb 2019 06:51:03 No.105947393 Report

Quoted By: >>105947469

>>105945782
Honestly I feel like I was born too late to properly enjoy this franchise. I wish I was turning 16 this year, then I would have been hyped all throughout and would have probably enjoyed phase 3 a lot more. I can’t say what phase is better but I really have little interest in the stand alones or the sequels.
Even Spider-Man was one of the few I went out of my way to watch cause spidey but I have no interest in the sequel even though it has my all time fav Spider-Man villain Mysterio.
I don’t know if it’s the fault of the formula or maybe it’s something personal but these movies have really lost their luster.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Feb 2019 06:57:26 No.105947469 Report

Quoted By:

>>105947393

I think it's because a lot of the movies are filler that will take good concepts and show good potential only to squander it later

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Feb 2019 07:14:02 No.105947633 Report

Quoted By:

>>105930546
I want full penetration

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Feb 2019 08:16:41 No.105948226 Report

Quoted By: >>105948321

>>105937604
Why is he running? I thought he retained his mass. How is this any different to when the Thomas train bounced off Yellow Jacket?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Feb 2019 08:32:59 No.105948321 Report

Quoted By:

>>105948226
Maybe he forgot, it sometimes happen to Lang.

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