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Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 15:55:39 2019 No.105359140 View Reply Original Report

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Where does each member of the Batfamily fall on the political spectrum?

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Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 16:29:50 No.105359542 Report

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Batman - L
Damian - R
Tim - L
Dick - R
STOP & DASH & UP & TALK
(B)arbara - B A B S

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Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 16:46:55 No.105359752 Report

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>>105359140
They're all literally social justice warriors, anon.

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Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 16:46:58 No.105359753 Report

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Batman is a communist. He's too smart not to fall for CIA subversion.

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Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 16:53:18 No.105359839 Report

Quoted By: >>105359855 >>105361053 >>105364658

>>105359752
>Fighting for justice and against crime means you’re automatically far left

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Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 16:55:34 No.105359855 Report

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>>105359839
Prove to me that Batman isn't a leftist. You can't

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Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 16:59:15 No.105359899 Report

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>>105359855
He probably is, but what attributes do you think make him a leftie? Helping the less fortunate isn’t just a “leftie” quality. We always have this idea that right means bad and left means good, when there’s good people on both sides of the spectrum.

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Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 17:00:57 No.105359936 Report

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>>105359899
Name a good Republican in the last 10 years that wanted to help people when it wasn’t just for their own interest.

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Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 17:01:31 No.105359941 Report

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>>105359899
>but what attributes do you think make him a leftie?

The fact he believes in reform.

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Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 17:02:35 No.105359961 Report

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>>105359899
Do you even know what far left means?

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Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 17:03:36 No.105359971 Report

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>>105359936
That’s literally almost every politician

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Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 17:03:52 No.105359975 Report

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>>105359936
>Using american politics as examples of right and left
You already got it wrong

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Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 17:04:53 No.105359991 Report

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>>105359961
Explain it to me since I obviously don’t know

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Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 17:09:28 No.105360046 Report

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>>105359975
Considering this is an American character from American comics...?

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Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 17:10:33 No.105360064 Report

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>>105360046
Do you unironically think that your left-wing politicians don’t do things with their own benefit?

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Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 17:24:19 No.105360229 Report

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>>105359140
Socialists on facebook keep saying batman is a fascist

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Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 17:26:13 No.105360245 Report

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>>105359140
Bruce R
Dick he kinda falls in the middle
Tim L
Cass L
Barbara R
Damian R

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Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 17:27:16 No.105360257 Report

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>>105359855
Stop projecting your political bitterness on fictional characters

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 17:28:05 No.105360268 Report

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>>105359140
they all fall on the spectrum, period.

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Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 17:30:38 No.105360298 Report

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All heroes are liberals because liberals are all about morality and truth justice and the American way. Acceptance and tolerance of other people.

Conservatives are bad guys because they're racist, misogynist asshats.

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Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 17:35:25 No.105360353 Report

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>>105359140
Batman- Classic Liberal, probably votes republican.
Dick- Democratic Socialist, votes dem
Tim- Conservative Democrat, usually votes dem
Damian- Libertarian fuckwit (but I repeat myself), can't vote cause hes underaged b&
Jason- Anarchist, doesn't vote
Barbara- Fascist, votes republican
Albert- Conservative, votes third party

Villain bonus round:
Joker: Ancap, doesn't vote
Penguin: Libertarian, votes republican
Poison Ivy: Green
Catwoman: Liberal Democrat, doesn't vote
Mr. Freeze: Socialist
Harley: non-political
Killer Croc: Anarchist
Scarecrow: Conservative Dem, votes republican
Two face: Literally flips a coin
Riddler: That annoying centrist faggot.
Hatter: Technological futurist, votes dem.

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Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 17:35:35 No.105360356 Report

Quoted By: >>105364662

>>105359140
>Batman
left (he believes in equality, helping oppressed groups (as Batman and as Bruce Wayne), has an obsession with justice and fairness, although is a capitalist
>Dick
Doesn’t seem to care much about politics, he just cares about doing good and fighting crime so maybe a bit apolitical
>Jason
Probably a centrist, also fights for justice and the less vulnerable but he doesn’t believe that criminals can be reformed like Bruce does and it would be better to take them out. He seems to believe in the means justifying the end concept.
>Tim
Probably a leftie
>Damian
Too young to tell
>Babs
Depending on which Babs, but the recent ones has been pretty far left. Although in general she seems to be a leftie.

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Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 17:36:26 No.105360369 Report

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Dick is a conservative

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Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 17:37:15 No.105360381 Report

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>>105360298
There are canon conservative characters tho

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Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 17:39:25 No.105360410 Report

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>>105359140
Bruce - Authoritarian Left
Damian - Authoritarian Right
Tim - Libertarian Left
Dick - Libertarian Right
Jason - Libertarian Right
Babs - Libertarian Left
Cass - Authoritarian Left
Stephanie - Libertarian Left
Alfred - Libertarian Right

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Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 17:39:48 No.105360416 Report

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>>105360064
I've seen this anon >>105359936 before, he truly believes that the American left are holy

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Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 17:41:46 No.105360439 Report

Quoted By: >>105360447

>>105360298
>All heroes are liberals because liberals are all about morality and truth justice and the American way.
Where exactly are liberals moral?
When they're killing babies?

Where exactly are liberals truthful?
When they invent lies about conservatives they hate?

Where exactly are liberals just?
When they tell you to give away your money to charities while they keep there's?

Where exactly are liberals defending the American way?
When they insist the American way is racist, white, male, and outdated?

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Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 17:42:16 No.105360447 Report

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>>105360439
You got baited.

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Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 17:42:55 No.105360453 Report

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>>105360416
Poor dude, he’s gotta realize that politicians are generally scum on either side

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Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 17:43:30 No.105360463 Report

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>>105360353
>Poison Ivy: Green

Haha

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Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 17:43:44 No.105360471 Report

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>>105359936
Rand Paul
Too fucking easy bro

I got one for you
Name a good Democrat in the last 10 years that hasn't been bribed by a company or media outlet.
Even Crazy Eyes Commie Cortez sold out for nice shoes

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Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 17:45:47 No.105360495 Report

Quoted By: >>105361043

In the prelude wedding issue where Jason fights against Anarky, he doesn’t show any preference for either side and donates money to even the most radical groups including to the antifa and neo nazi equivalents. So maybe he’s a centrist or he doesn’t give a fuck about politics in general.

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Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 17:46:00 No.105360498 Report

Quoted By: >>105360534 >>105360541

>>105360463
Villians are tough because most political parties are against violence, so you need to ignore that part when trying to figure out where they would be.

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Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 17:46:28 No.105360507 Report

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>>105359140
Bruce is definitely on the spectrum.

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Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 17:47:02 No.105360518 Report

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>>105360471
>Rand Paul
>Literally trolls his own neighbor until said neighbor beats the shit out of him, runs to Canada for free health care while bashing socialism out the other side of his mouth.

Try harder.

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Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 17:48:00 No.105360534 Report

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>>105360498
Most people believe in things but they usually act in the opposite way or don’t follow what they preach. Also you have to consider that most villains genuinely think they’re in the right.

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Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 17:48:45 No.105360541 Report

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>>105360498
I just laughed because of the Green part, since she's all about plants and sometimes she's green, it gave me a laugh.

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Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 17:52:30 No.105360583 Report

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>>105359936
Me

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Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 17:54:49 No.105360608 Report

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>>105360353
Best post

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Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 17:56:15 No.105360630 Report

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>>105360353
I wish people were actually like this instead of the basic dem or republican

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Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 17:57:44 No.105360654 Report

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>>105359542

Literally how is Dick a republican? He's openly a commie.

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Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 17:58:40 No.105360669 Report

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>>105359140
I'm using Yorupean standards so not US ones
But Bruce is clearly conservative. He realizes that his fortune is through luck but that the US should be the land of opportunity, hence his funding and schools and stuff. Why he takes in the kids instead of leading them to fall into the cracks in the social services.

Babs is definitely a liberal

But I think both of them strongly believe in a sense of law and justice while at the same time not wanting cops to gain more power and potentially abuse people.
IIRC, Babs got in on a scholarship too

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Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 18:02:07 No.105360728 Report

Quoted By: >>105360746 >>105361108

>>105360630
Some people are. The sad truth is that people who actually vote on the issues, and not the party label, are a tiny minority (less than 10% of voters). They don't matter to the politicians, which is why you have Republicans voting with outright white supremacists, and democrats voting with socialist reformers. These groups do not belong together, at all, but here we are.

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Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 18:03:28 No.105360746 Report

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>>105360728
But that’s the fault of the education system too, they don’t actually try to get their students politically involved and when they do, it’s usually biased.

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Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 18:05:46 No.105360773 Report

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>>105360746
Of course, but the real underlying cause is the first past the post system. America needs reform, badly. I would argue we need an entirely new constitutional convention. But I loathe to think the same retards in the federal government now would be the ones to write the new constitution. The entire thing would be set up to benefit the wealthy at the rest of the nation's expense./

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Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 18:27:41 No.105361029 Report

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>>105359140
>Bruce is a centrist, skips every election. He'd lean Republican, if not for their position on guns.
>Dick is an avid Democrat, shares sob stories with Oliver Queen on how tired they both are to explain to the others the difference between Social-Democratic platforms and Communism.
>Jason doesn't care that much about the federal government, more concerned with what's going on on the local level and usually supports whoever's in the opposition. For the federal elections, he asks Alfred what party did Bruce vote for and votes the opposite, despite Batman not actually voting.
>Tim supports intellectuals among politicians, toying with ideas of a technocratic society, perhaps even a benevolent dictatorship. That is, when he's alone. Usually he just agrees to support whichever party/politician Steph supports.
>Damian desperately tries to pressure Bruce to vote Republican and thinks about pursuing his own political career. He is bummed about the fact that you can't just challenge the unlikable politicians to a trial of combat and assume their position after winning.
>Stephanie WANTS to be contrarian, but usually ends up supporting whoever's championing women's rights and girl power.
>Barbara is big about government control and strengthening the establishment. Being from a cop family, she was leaning socially right originally, before coming to Burnside and befriending lots of Commie-leaning and LGBT people in the college. Either way, she's OK with government surveillance if it means more crimes are prevented.
>Cass is apolitical, but was curious enough to vote for the novelty of it. Together with Tim, she's skimmed all of candidates' programs, judged the possibility of promises being fulfilled, conted pros and cons, before both were pressured to vote Clinton by Steph.
>Alfred claims he is not eligible to vote and "jokes" about wishing America'd just rejoin the British Empire. He then gets Jason to vote for whoever's in Her Majesty's good graces.

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Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 18:28:53 No.105361043 Report

Quoted By: >>105361099

>>105360495
He does that specifically to foil Anarky's plan though.

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Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 18:29:22 No.105361053 Report

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>>105359839
No they are literally social justice warriors. They're fucking martial artists who fight for justice and social equality in Gotham

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Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 18:34:10 No.105361099 Report

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>>105361043
Can you see someone else doing the same? (E.g. Bruce or Babs)

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Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 18:35:33 No.105361108 Report

Quoted By: >>105361126

>>105360728
It's pretty nice living in a country with true democracy where you actually have a plethora of options and can usually find a party that aligns with most of your ideals.

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Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 18:35:38 No.105361110 Report

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>>105361029
This entire post

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Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 18:36:59 No.105361126 Report

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>>105361108
Which country is that?

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Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 18:40:28 No.105361183 Report

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All the brainlets saying shit like simply left/right or dem/rep just leave already. You're too much of a brainlet to be discussing political theory even on the most basic level. Leave and apply yourselves or just go fling shit with the rest of the braindead mongoloids on /pol/.

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Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 18:43:54 No.105361229 Report

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>>105361029
>if not for their position on guns.
Batman isn't anti-gun, he just doesn' like them. Alfred uses a shotgun to guard Wayne manor. Batman is a Humanist libertarian i.e like the founding fathers that is why he is historically used as an anti-authoritarian figure like in Red Son and TDKR. He is a WASP who can trace his history back to pioneer times, one of his descendants even help to free slave hence why there are caverns under Wayne Manor.

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Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 18:44:12 No.105361232 Report

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>>105360507
;)

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Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 18:47:13 No.105361276 Report

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>>105359855
Left-wing bonafides
>against capital punishment

Right-wing bonafides
>inherited wealth billionaire
>lives in a gothic style mansion with a British butler (he's practically Jacob Rees-Mogg).
>hard on crime
>believes in private charity through the Wayne foundation rather than simply demanding the government take care of those social ills

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Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 18:49:25 No.105361315 Report

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>>105360353
>Two face: Literally flips a coin
kek

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Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 18:51:26 No.105361350 Report

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>>105360353
Legitimately the best answer. The two face one got a key from me.

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Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 19:02:27 No.105361525 Report

Quoted By: >>105361990

>>105361029
What about Helena, Kate and Jean-Paul?

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Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 19:09:52 No.105361629 Report

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>>105360518
The healthcare he is getting in Canada is from a private clinic that doesn't use government money.

And I like how you question the morals of republicans while justifying assault.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 19:14:14 No.105361694 Report

Quoted By: >>105366410

>>105361629
Doesn't matter, the clinic in Canada operates in a socialist enviornment, bringing costs down and keeping quality high. If he was a man of his word, which, like all libertarian hypocrites, he isn't, he would get his work done in America.

I have no problem with a smarmy POS neighbor getting his comeuppance. Having had to deal with faggots like Rand at my own HOA, many of them in fact do deserve an ass kicking. Don't be a shitty neighbor and respect your community. This is a very simple lesson that people like Rand should have learned decades ago.

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Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 19:14:44 No.105361699 Report

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>>105361029

Huh. That nailed it.

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Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 19:15:59 No.105361716 Report

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>>105359140
They're all good people, so Left obviously

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Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 19:17:49 No.105361740 Report

Quoted By: >>105364719

>>105361029
Let's do villains:
>Joker: Always votes, even if it means holding half the city hostage. Everybody always expects him to bomb other voters or use Joker Toxin inc in his pen, but he's surprisingly serious about the whole thing. Despite that, he votes only meme candidates . Voted third party or wrote himself in before the Trump Campaign. Considers Trump's victory his personal accomplishment as a voter and a comedian.
>Two-Face: Thanks God and the First of the Fallen for America's two party system. Does not bother with primaries.
>Penguin: Votes Republican, tried to campaign himself, but never had the patience for big politics, mostly just Gotham. Ancap, or at least he claims to be one when Anarky comes with a machete at his throat.
>Anarky: One could say "well, duh", but he's closer to Anarcho-Communism than most mainstream Anarchists. Edgy versions border on Nazi Futurism a la Atomwaffen Division.
>Poison Ivy: Votes for women she'd hit on. Both parties. When asked, says she's Green, but just can't get past Jill Stein's mug.
>Mr. Freeze: Files complaints about his human rights being disrespected because he is kept in a loonybin while sane, eventually gets a special right to vote. Votes, writing in his favored candidates who actually hadn't campaigned for years and some were dead for years.
>Rupert Thorne, Carmine Falcone and Sal Maroni all vote Republican. All are surprised to meet GCPD officers doing the same at the polling stations.
>Simon Stagg was one of the "Obama check" businessmen, so he feels motivated voting Democrat partially out of amusement, partially out of personal obligation.
>Hush is still trying to deduce which party is Bruce voting for. Alfred keeps feeding him false info to further the British Imperial agenda.
>Riddler, Cluemaster and the Calculator argue on political forums in favor of the technocratic government together with Tim. They tried hacking polling stations, but usually find the candidates beneath them.

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Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 19:29:24 No.105361899 Report

Quoted By: >>105362046

>>105361029
Considering Step’s background, wouldn’t it make more sense to be a Sander’s style progressive? Or has her humble beginnings been changed during the New 52? I haven’t bothered to read Batman Eternal to learn her new origin.

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Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 19:33:10 No.105361943 Report

Quoted By: >>105361969

All superhero fiction is inherently conservative in nature.

The idea that every foe can be stopped and every wrong can be righted by beating your opponents into submission is as far from progressive as you can possibly get.
Not to mention the religious adherence to a status quo

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Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 19:34:29 No.105361961 Report

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>>105360245
>Barbara R
WTF

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Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 19:35:02 No.105361969 Report

Quoted By: >>105362033 >>105362284

>>105361943
Half of the comics out there are paper-thin veneers over overt liberal points of view. Minority rights, feminism, and class consciousness are all staples of classic comic books. I have to disagree with you bro.

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Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 19:36:59 No.105361990 Report

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>>105361525
Believe it or not, I ran out of symbols.
>Helena Bertinelli: Would support conservative candidates, if she wasn't so disgusted by so many "slimy" politicians among the conservatives. Usually ends up not voting at the presidential elections at all, but tries to support female Republicans at the primaries and during local elections.
>Helena Wayne: Yet another person trying to figure out which party did Bruce Wayne vote for. Ends up not voting at all, disappointed, yet never finding out that she'd actually made her father proud.
>Kate thanked Obama for the gay rights law, she really did, but for the most part considered his administration "spineless". She prefers hawkish candidates, left or right. Was ready to vote Clinton before the emails scandal, decided that a politician responsible for the nation shouldn't be so careless with state servers, and voted Trump, partially out of amusement and in pussy-grabbing solidarity. She hides that fact from her peers and is secretly ashamed for it, now that her dad has shared with her top secret info that the deep state has evidence to suspect that Trump was compromised by Russian metahumans all along.
>Jean-Paul has made a vow never to deal with politics, not trusting whether his political compass is influenced by the Order of St. Dumas indoctrination, or is based on his own choices. He supports both privately-funded charities and government initiatives regarding social support, and sometimes says the United States could take a lesson or two from the Cantons of Switzerland.
>Catwoman treats politics like a TV show. If she's not currently on the run from law, she may show up and vote for the "contestants" she'd like to see more of. Thinks that a POTUS should always stay sharp, and steals something glamorous and shiny from every President-Elect the night before inauguration.

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Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 19:40:04 No.105362033 Report

Quoted By: >>105362087 >>105362187

>>105361969
Is it possible to be conservative yet stand up for the rights of minorities?

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Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 19:41:09 No.105362046 Report

Quoted By: >>105362077

>>105361899
She's "grown up" a bit since that, largely in the direction of sticking it to Batman without rhyme and reason, unfortunately. Recently she entertained Anarky's anarcho-communist experiments, but could also have just been faking it to investigate it. I suppose she could vote Sanders in the primaries just because of how the majority of Democrats shilled Clinton.

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Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 19:42:42 No.105362072 Report

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l63SRpGXBHE

That one episode where Batman runs for mayor against the Penguin. At the end of the episode, he gets calls from both Republicans and Democrats to be their presidential candidate (not Bruce Wayne, Batman), but he politely declines.

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Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 19:43:07 No.105362077 Report

Quoted By: >>105362128

>>105362046
Tbqh she seems like the basic white girl type. She’s a good person but she’s still really basic. She probably voted Clinton because that’s who all her friends voted for.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 19:43:44 No.105362087 Report

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>>105362033
It's kinda funny. Usually the economically-right, socially-left supporters get called moderates/centrists. Economically-left and socially-right? Nazis!

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Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 19:45:58 No.105362128 Report

Quoted By: >>105362184

>>105362077
>She probably voted Clinton because that’s who all her friends voted for.
That's Barbara. Steph voted Clinton because she thought Bruce was voting Trump, and her friends voted together with her.
(Bruce spent the election night investigated reporting sightings of Joker serving hamburgers and selling MAGA hats. He concluded that the Joker did not actually poison the burgers, and spread the information around to get Batman to look and waste time investigating each burger stand for signs of toxin)

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Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 19:46:36 No.105362138 Report

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>>105360353
>Albert-

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Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 19:49:35 No.105362184 Report

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>>105362128
>the Joker did not actually poison the burgers, and spread the information around to get Batman to look and waste time investigating each burger stand for signs of toxin
MOM'S GONNA FREAK

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Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 19:49:51 No.105362187 Report

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>>105362033
Of course, you just don't see it much nowadays. And that doesn't change the reality that classic comics were "SJW" as fuck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 19:50:57 No.105362203 Report

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>>105360353
>Riddler "both sides"ing every argument

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Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 19:55:45 No.105362284 Report

Quoted By: >>105362358

>>105361969
Point of view is largely irrelevant. Actions bely the words every single time. You can't claim to be making a point about class or minority struggles when your average story's resolution is beating up the bad guy and throwing them in jail.

Superhero fiction is for the most part a conservative power fantasy for liberal authors.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 19:57:49 No.105362307 Report

Quoted By: >>105362362

>>105362184
Would Joker say the n word?

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Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 19:59:22 No.105362328 Report

Quoted By: >>105362398

>Bruce: pro-business Republican. Wayne Enterprises donates generously to the GCPD and cooperates with the Pentagon for R&D and military contracts. Probably a popular target for lefty protestors: old money, big company, ... Bruce is socially conservative, but keeps his opinions to himself.
>Jason: doesn't vote.
>Tim: technocratic government as some have said, Rebirth era detective comics is basically about this.
>Damian: doesn't fit in the modern democratic spectrum. Social darwinist or absolute monarchy/oligarchy of nobles.
>Stephanie: post-new52 had her become a hacktivist of sorts, but she millenial/gen z. Libertarian or hard left new-democrat? She hung out with Anarky for a while.
>Barbara: used to be right-wing police daughter who wanted to be a cop herself, but the Burnside run turned her into a leftie who drinks too much black coffee.
>Cass: can't read, doesn't care. Confused what all the fuss is about, would switch the channel from a televised debate to a ballet performance.
>Alfred: British-style conservative, but capable of politely talking with anyone about politics.

I've seen a few posters say Dick is definitely left-leaning, why is this? Never read too much about him.
How about the rest of the Justice League?
>Superman: rural Kansas moderate republican.
>Wonder Woman: emphasis on women's rights in man's world makes many put her on the left, as in her Rucka run. Some conservative elements though: hereditary monarchy, divine right to rule, etc.
>Hal Jordan, John Stewart, Guy Gardner, etc. Most are right wing, Stewart might be centrist Democrat. Baz is a Democrat, Cruz doesn't vote (she was a gunowner and a hunter though)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 20:01:04 No.105362358 Report

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>>105362284
>The perspective of the heroes and by extension the audience is irrelevant.

Thats going to be a yikes from me dawg, I mean, comic book writers literally have "thought bubbles" to tell the audience a heroes motivation, and it's almost never as simple as "I Beat up bad men cause I'm defending muh traditional values". In fact, many villains are outright cutouts of the liberal enemy of the day.

You would have to be retarded to look at Captain America beating the shit out of Red Skull and claim it's a conservative fantasy.The only characters I can think that fit your theory are Punisher and Tony Stark. Whereas I can name a dozen outright leftist superheros off the cuff.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 20:01:21 No.105362362 Report

Quoted By: >>105362538

>>105362307
If he thought it would be funny

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 20:01:39 No.105362368 Report

Quoted By: >>105362404 >>105366609

ITT: right wingers pretending their favorite character agrees with them, left wingers pretending their favorite character agrees with them

Here's the secret you fucking retards: writers do the same thing, when a right wing writer writes Batman he's right wing, when a left winger writer does he's left wing. Stupid useless thread.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 20:03:27 No.105362398 Report

Quoted By: >>105362520 >>105362827

>>105362328
Superman was traditionally a new deal democrat.Wonder woman preaches matriarchy. And the Green Lanterns are space cops, on the right.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 20:03:42 No.105362404 Report

Quoted By:

>>105362368
>No fun allowed
As long as we stay on topic its fine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 20:06:23 No.105362451 Report

Quoted By: >>105362505

>>105360298
>>105360381
Is Barry the only conservative on the Justice League?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 20:09:48 No.105362505 Report

Quoted By: >>105364930

>>105362451
Wally West, Hal Jordan, Bruce Wayne.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 20:10:47 No.105362520 Report

Quoted By: >>105362640 >>105362666 >>105362832

>>105362398
Why does being a cop automatically make you a right winger?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 20:11:48 No.105362538 Report

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>>105362362
MRS. OBAMA GET DOWN

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Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 20:17:14 No.105362638 Report

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>>105360353

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 20:17:25 No.105362640 Report

Quoted By: >>105362654 >>105364981

>>105362520
Emphasis on duty, law and order? I imagine military and police types generally lean right.
Jim Gordon/Babs, Guy Gardner, Hal Jordan/Carol Ferris, General Lane, etc.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 20:18:09 No.105362654 Report

Quoted By: >>105362842

>>105362640
So do left wingers not care about law and order at all?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 20:18:44 No.105362666 Report

Quoted By: >>105362842

>>105362520
If I remember right, Hal was a confirmned conservative that would argue all the time with Green Arrow over politics.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 20:25:00 No.105362811 Report

Quoted By:

>>105359140
>Bruce - left.
>Dick - centrist.
>Tim - left.
>Damian - right.
>Jason - right.
>Barbs - left.
>Stephanie - left.
>Cass - I wanna punch people.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 20:25:43 No.105362827 Report

Quoted By: >>105362843 >>105362939

>>105362398
>And the Green Lanterns are space cops, on the right.
Hal, Guy and John are right. Kyle, Simon and Jessica are left

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 20:25:55 No.105362832 Report

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>>105362520
"on the right" doesn't mean "right winger".

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Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 20:26:28 No.105362842 Report

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>>105362654
I would say it's not as high on their agenda, from what I see in western democracies today. The left prefers to talk about the perceived opression of minorities and their economic maladjustment and cite that as the reason for crime.

>>105362666
That was a glorious, over-the-top and campy run, I'm glad I got a reprint of that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 20:26:30 No.105362843 Report

Quoted By: >>105362893 >>105362920 >>105362922 >>105362939 >>105362972

>>105362827
>Jessica
>left
Her origin story involves going on a hunting trip

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 20:28:34 No.105362893 Report

Quoted By:

>>105362843
And Simon carries a gun and is Muslim. Only the shit lantern Kyle is a lib

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 20:30:02 No.105362920 Report

Quoted By:

>>105362843
Rural lefties like hunting too, the Midwest used to have lots of progressives

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 20:30:04 No.105362922 Report

Quoted By: >>105362947

>>105362843
Wasn’t it with college friends though? Not too out of the ordinary to take a trip to the woods. Though EVS apparently helped create her so it might have been intended.

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Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 20:31:16 No.105362939 Report

Quoted By: >>105362975 >>105363026

>>105362827
>>105362843
Was about to say this. Wasn't she from rural Oregon, where she grew up hunting? I'd say she apolitical or local libertarian Republican, but rightly annoyed at anti-Latin tendencies on a national level.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 20:31:39 No.105362947 Report

Quoted By: >>105362972

>>105362922
It was a hunting trip

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 20:32:19 No.105362958 Report

Quoted By:

>>105359140
Varies wildly from diffrent portrails

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 20:33:18 No.105362972 Report

Quoted By: >>105363037

>>105362843
>>105362947
Jessica survived on canned squirrel meat, she'd be ostracized for eating them cuties by most of the American left.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 20:33:28 No.105362975 Report

Quoted By: >>105363037 >>105363047 >>105364824

>>105362939
>rightly annoyed at anti-Latin tendencies on a national level
Is there actually an anti-latino sentiment in the States? That actually sounds surprising to me since most live in areas where they are among their own so they don’t really interact with other people (e.g. Miami)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 20:35:16 No.105363011 Report

Quoted By:

>>105360353
Literally this. Loled at libertarian penguin

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 20:36:11 No.105363026 Report

Quoted By: >>105363106 >>105363167

>>105362939
>John Wick
I've got a feeling that wasn't out when Jess saw here friends get murdered

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 20:36:42 No.105363037 Report

Quoted By: >>105363062 >>105366757

>>105362975
I'm not American, but since Trump swooped in and took over the Republican I imagine there's some anti-Hispanic accents, especially when it comes to migration. But maybe's that a lopsided view I get from very one-sided news coverage here in Europe. He did get 1/3 of the Latino vote, after all.
>>105362972
What's Jessica's sister's (Sarah?) job? Professional sports/football player?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 20:37:04 No.105363047 Report

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>>105362975
Depends on where you live. Racism either comes from ignorance or bad expierinces with the race. Areas withought a lot of diversity tend to have a very stereotyped kind of racism. Areas with a lot of diversity tend to create extremes at the both ends of a racism scale.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 20:37:51 No.105363062 Report

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>>105363037
I have family in the states and they haven’t complained about being mistreated. Although I do know that their immigration policies are tougher now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 20:40:23 No.105363106 Report

Quoted By: >>105363167

>>105363026
Maybe in the DC universe, John Wick was an eighties classic, and Rambo is a new action movie about a veteran of the Afghanistan war dealing with PTSD and shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 20:43:58 No.105363167 Report

Quoted By:

>>105363026
>>105363106
John Wick came out in 2014. If Jess was 19-20 years old in that Flashback and then spent a year or two in depressed isolation, she'd be 22-23 in the current continuity. Not implausible. Is it ever stated how long she locked herself in her appartment and played Pokémon for?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 21:40:04 No.105364078 Report

Quoted By: >>105364719

>>105360353
What about Black Mask, Firefly, doctor Strange and Killer Moth?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 22:10:37 No.105364602 Report

Quoted By: >>105365038 >>105366382

>>105359855
Literally the icon Batman story The Dark Knight Returns is Frank Miller saying Fuck Lefties.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 22:13:31 No.105364658 Report

Quoted By: >>105366305

>>105359839
>hates guns
>would help people no matter what, even if they can't help themselves
>against killing
>despite his wealth does not like the wealthy at all

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 22:13:48 No.105364662 Report

Quoted By:

>>105360356
>>Jason
>Probably a centrist, also fights for justice and the less vulnerable but he doesn’t believe that criminals can be reformed like Bruce does and it would be better to take them out. He seems to believe in the means justifying the end concept.

That's arguable. He's given criminals second chances more than once. It's just that, in a system that clearly doesn't work, he would rather don't give many chances to criminals that clearly have not intention of reforming or are clearly unreformable, like the Joker. I would say that, apart from that, he's pretty on the left. Maybe even a bit of an anarchist, if you ask me.

Tin, on the other hand, I'm not convinced that he's that in the left. I would say he's more in the center, actually. Moderate leftist, maybe.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 22:16:41 No.105364719 Report

Quoted By: >>105364973

>>105360353
>>105361029
>>105361740
These are all spot on

>>105364078
>Black Mask
Libertarian who votes democrat to save face. Every election, he holds his own election within the False Face Society that he wins all the time.
>Killer Moth
Votes democrat primarily because of his daughter, has little interest otherwise.
>Hugo Strange
Usually Republican. He votes primarily based on which platform has the shittiest healthcare policies so he can turn more suffering citizens into Monster Men.
Contrary to belief, he has little interest in what platform Bruce votes for, since he believes that Batman cannot concern himself with voting and should instead just take over the political system for himself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 22:21:50 No.105364824 Report

Quoted By: >>105365381

>>105362975
I'm from Miami. Racism takes as many forms here in the US as mental illness can shape. In Miami it's cliques. Starting from middle school, people form region-based gangs. This is because Miami has a grid-like layout where you have "Little" versions of every Central American country. Young people mime this because they've learned from their parents. However, the frontalness of the racism makes it diluted so that these people grow out of it (typically) by the time they get to high school. Once free of social impositions, people look for relationships outside. However, in the mid-west America (Kansas and all that) racism is more potent. Here it's class-based due to job opportunities. Because social groups between minorities is broader, white people here are more self-conscious and start to adopt bisection between groups in order to not seem racist. But the learned behavior of their parents, where they determine someone's value by how they look/where they come from, rather than the merits of that person, is still there.

Racist people are everywhere but the more inland you go in the US, the more people start forming mental caricatures of you. Towards the outer extremities the influx of other cultures forces them to wake up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 22:26:48 No.105364930 Report

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>>105362505
Wally went from Right to Left as he was maturing and shit kept happening to him and his friends.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 22:28:52 No.105364973 Report

Quoted By: >>105365394 >>105366545

>>105364719
Okay i see. Is Firefly too preoccupied with his Pyromania that he doesn't even think about voting?

And if you are still here, could you also perhaps do Zsasz, Pyg, Clayface (Karlo) and Great White Shark?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 22:29:04 No.105364981 Report

Quoted By: >>105365373

>>105362640
I have a cousin cop and an uncle in the army and both are leftists. My father was about to try the army when he was looking for a way of life, and he's a socialist. You don't have to be authoritarian and conservative to want to defend your peers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 22:31:16 No.105365038 Report

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>>105364602
Bruh did you actually read the story? The president in the story is Reagan, Miller is a neo-liberal thatnvoted Clinton.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 22:37:27 No.105365189 Report

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>>105360353
>Jason- Anarchist
I don't think Anarchism means what you think it does.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 22:46:17 No.105365373 Report

Quoted By: >>105365693

>>105364981
Are you a leftist too?

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Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 22:46:31 No.105365381 Report

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>>105364824
>>Racism takes as many forms here in the US as mental illness can shape.
>Implies racism is a mental illness
>>Young people mime this because they've learned from their parents.
>He thinks racism can only be learned from parents.
Kek, I bet you think every race and culture is equal too, there's a reason, for example, why 80% of Portugal is racist towards gypsies bruh, and it ain't learned from parents, but by the very gypsies themselves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 22:47:11 No.105365394 Report

Quoted By: >>105365554

>>105364973
I really don't know or care enough about those characters to write one for them. I'm sorry.

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Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 22:54:47 No.105365554 Report

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>>105365394
Oh okay. Thx for doing the others though

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 23:01:31 No.105365693 Report

Quoted By: >>105366184

>>105365373
All the tests I have had have put me in the far left (usually around the Mensheviks mark of the chart). So, yes, I am. We're a bunch of lestists, my family and me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 23:25:21 No.105366184 Report

Quoted By: >>105366503

>>105365693
gay

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 23:30:47 No.105366305 Report

Quoted By:

>>105364658
This is just being a good person

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 23:34:08 No.105366382 Report

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>>105364602
TDKR is a subversion/bad future story with Batman. But apparently faggots never got the memo that this isn't supposed to be Batman ad nauseum.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 23:35:27 No.105366410 Report

Quoted By:

>>105361694
>a socialist enviornment, bringing costs down and keeping quality high
Top kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 23:35:41 No.105366413 Report

Quoted By:

>>105360447
Nah, I just really like to insult liberals so I'll take any excuse I can get

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 23:39:25 No.105366487 Report

Quoted By: >>105366532

>>105359542
What a shallow political spectrum and lack of knowledge about the characters in one post.

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Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 23:39:57 No.105366503 Report

Quoted By: >>105366782

>>105366184

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 23:41:32 No.105366532 Report

Quoted By:

>>105366487
I think that anon was trying to unlock something.
Like when using the Konami Code in a videogame.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 23:41:56 No.105366539 Report

Quoted By:

>>105359140
goddamn the new 52 was such an ugly period

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 23:42:20 No.105366545 Report

Quoted By:

>>105364973
>And if you are still here, could you also perhaps do Zsasz, Pyg, Clayface (Karlo) and Great White Shark?
I was just going to sleep, but alright. I did the 1029 and 1740 ones before.
>Zsasz was originally a cocky, careless sort, voted Republican and believed that the poor's lot was their own problem. After his depression and descent into villainy was absorbed by nihilism and only cared about politicians as potential targets.
>Pyg, before his insanity, worked for Spyral and voted pretty much as he was ordered by Doctor Dedalus. In his heart Laszlo fancied himself a transhumanist authoritarian, certain interpretations of Nazism would certainly be up his alley. Now it is all just a jumbled mess in his head, eloquence and progress mixed with degeneracy and hopelessness.
>Basil Karlo is an avid history buff, passionate for the stories of great generals, kings and dictators. Despite certain regard for royalty and power, he was, for the most part, a progressive, wishing to make history anew rather than conserve the traditions of old, which was fine with his agents and producers, much easier to sell his image to the media. Troubles with the producers and transformation into Clayface turned him sour about everything from his old life, and he now considered strong leadership a much more necessary trait in any system. With Batman trying to help him redeem himself, Basil thought back to his old views, and now mostly worries about the future of healthcare and whether it'll be ever able to help metahumans like him.
>GWS doesn't care anymore about the elections, but Warren White voted Democrat for appearances. Badmouthing GOP partially got him in trouble, and some of the guys in Gotham Organized Crime who could potentially cover for him or set him up with a fall guy refused to help due to those petty political arguments. Nowadays the Great White Shark is more about the "eat or get eaten approach", which, according to Penguin, qualifies him as a fellow cap.

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Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 23:43:02 No.105366553 Report

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>>105360298
Damn, now Tony turning villain every 10 years makes sense.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 23:45:50 No.105366609 Report

Quoted By: >>105366642

>>105362368
Jokes on you, Wally is as canon a conservative as Ollie is a leftie. Is that why Didio hates him so much?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 23:47:39 No.105366642 Report

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>>105366609
Wally mellowed up after settling down and befriending Pied Piper.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 23:48:58 No.105366667 Report

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since people seem confused, here's a few definitions to help

Liberal : believes that the government has an obligation to use it's power to enact social, market, or systematic change for the betterment of it's population

Conservative : believes the government has an obligation to only interfere with people's lives when it doesn't negatively impact people's rights

Democrat : believes a politicians job is to advance the will of the people

Republican : believes a politicians job is to protect the will of the people

Leftist : the belief that an elitest ruling class is best suited to guide the country by equalizing the citizenry

Rightist : the belief that hierarchies must be protected or enshrined in law

The american political landscape doesn't really have any Rightists. That's stuff like saudi arabia, iran, or to a lesser degree india.
So what's often called "Right wing" in america, is just the populist authoritarian right. I.E. Slightly right, but using the strength of the government to enact that slight right policy.

Bats is definitely a conservative. He doesn't trust the government to solve problems. That's why he exists.
Dick is a democrat, but not that left. Why? He clearly believes the government is usually a force for good.
Babs is a liberal but not a leftist.
Tim is too, if not a full blown leftist
Jason is hard conservative, possibly libertarian, in fact the whole outlaws operation sort of suggests that
Damian is probably the closest thing to a "right wing" in the group. He would definitely support trampling on people's mobility to make sure society operates efficiently. But he's also a child.
Alfred is probably a republican given his military background, his parental role, his respect for authority as well as his support of Bruce's independence.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 23:54:23 No.105366757 Report

Quoted By:

>>105363037
Texan here
Trump had no impact on anti-hispanic sentiment.
There was some of it before, some of it after, but no real change.

Well, I suppose there's more white people complaining on behalf of hispanics, which is it's own special brand of anti-hispanic racism. I'll give you that.

I think people just told themselves during the Obama years that america was suddenly LESS racist than it is. Then reality set it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 17 Jan 2019 23:55:58 No.105366782 Report

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>>105366503
Not him but gei

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Jan 2019 00:10:29 No.105367014 Report

Quoted By: >>105367031

>>105359140

All of them illegally beat up the mentally ill as a hobby so I'm going to say they're somewhere to the right of Hitler.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Jan 2019 00:11:44 No.105367031 Report

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>>105367014
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