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The only time i tend to watch the podcasts is when someone interesting is showing up for a guest appearance like ian or gene, i have no problems with pan despite all the weird shit iv'e heard about him, but the color haired person and this dude can plow themselves with a brick for all i care,literally every time i try i just end up thinking how obnoxious those two are and giving up, literally the only reasons i don't watch the normal casts.