>>102170078>>102170616Jason's case is similar. We know that a lot of the stuff that happened in UtRH is still valid, even if it all happened slightly differently. His death and resurrection, generally speaking, is the same, but we know there are small differences as well. And we know stuff like him being in Arkham is still cannon, but we cannot figure how it fits in the current continuity either. Or talking about New 52, where very big pieces of his background were detailed or changed, even from New 52 to Rebirth, there were changed: his post-Crisis origin was brought back too, even if you can make up a story that kind of fits, with him stealing from Thompkings and being caught before e got bold and stole Batman's tyres. And all that mess with the Joker being the mastermind behind his shitty life? So far, it seems that's been deleted, forgotten, implicitly contradicted by what we see and feel in Rebirth. You could say that's been retconned.
Because writers, most of them, are going to be lax in their continuity and are going to nod but not go in depth well known, or not so much, events and incidents in the character's editorial past. Because it is such a mess that it's hard to fit everything right, and they probably want to include some stuff they really like about the characters that's not in continuity anymore because some crisis happening inbetween. And of course, any event that the readers recalls as happening to these characters still has consequences in the background and story, out of cont or not, because in a meta level, it still happened. Hypertime, I think, is the concept they came with for that.
It's all loosy, but here, as a general rule, I think we tend to take an event, incident, etc. as retconned if it hasn't been mentioned in a while, after a crisis or an universe changing event or whatever, or even straight contradicted, until another writer comes and makes it canon again.