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Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 00:03:24 2018 No.101252260 View Reply Original Report

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>Increase price
>Sales drop

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Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 00:04:16 No.101252279 Report

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Profound.

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Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 00:05:22 No.101252299 Report

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I'm pretty much done with floppies, i cant justify em any more. $4.30 for 15 mins of entertainment. With ads.

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Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 00:06:15 No.101252318 Report

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>>101252260
>>>/biz/

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Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 00:06:26 No.101252322 Report

Quoted By: >>101252649 >>101262484

Why the increase?

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Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 00:07:04 No.101252329 Report

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>>101252299
And when they're canceling runs for people like Bendis really why should anyone get invested in any of these stories.

It's like they're actively tanking floppies so they can move to OGNs and drop all but 6 writers and artists.

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Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 00:08:13 No.101252351 Report

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If DC wants to be retarded, that's fine. I need to save more money anyway.

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Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 00:11:31 No.101252410 Report

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>>101252260
they should switch to cheaper paper.

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Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 00:25:07 No.101252626 Report

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>>101252410
Smells great though

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 00:26:32 No.101252649 Report

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>>101252322
to cover zoe quinn's contract

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Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 00:28:58 No.101252680 Report

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>>101252260

They had low prices for the majority of their comics for several years. It was bound to happen that they'd have to increase the price. Meanwhile Marvel is slowly making more titles $5, although they're mainly event issues and one shots. For now.

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Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 00:32:09 No.101252728 Report

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>>101252260
I know isn't it great

Nothing's better then watching a terrible company go bankrupt

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 00:36:47 No.101252788 Report

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>Both Marvel and DC's comics are failing
Who will fill the gap?

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Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 00:39:36 No.101252834 Report

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>>101252728
So do you have anything to contribute ever or you just post DC is Bankrupt all day long

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Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 00:40:29 No.101252848 Report

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>>101252788
No one buys comics anymore

It's all about movies and Marvel is definitely not failing there

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Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 00:41:49 No.101252876 Report

Quoted By: >>101253478

You know DC are failing when they can't sell a Bendis Superman launch with it being his first DC work

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Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 00:42:12 No.101252881 Report

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>>101252260
so what, do the fans just go to marvel where prices are already high?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 00:43:15 No.101252904 Report

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>>101252881
They go to /co/ for storytime

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Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 00:44:05 No.101252913 Report

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>>101252881
They just don't buy comics

Which leaves them more money for things like Marvel movies and the Disney streaming service

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Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 00:45:22 No.101252940 Report

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>>101252848
>No one buys comics anymore
Remember that one weeb that always wanted to go Japan to become a mangaka and got laughed at because he was stupid. How far we have fallen to where that's the only way to be a successful comic author at this point.

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Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 01:11:52 No.101253416 Report

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>>101252788
I'm hoping to anon but I can't really draw and so I'm afraid my comics will be too ugly.

I'm really working on it though.

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Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 01:13:21 No.101253445 Report

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Floppies didn't make sense at 2 dollars, nevermind what they're doing now. Vote with your fucking dollars ladies and gentlemen.

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Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 01:14:24 No.101253466 Report

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>>101252299
>15 mins of entertainment
Unless an issue is WORDSWORDSWORDS it'll never entertain you for this long. 5-10 minutes is a lot more realistic. Making this price even more ridiculous.

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Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 01:14:56 No.101253476 Report

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>>101252940
most mangaka don't make much money.

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Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 01:15:00 No.101253478 Report

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>>101252876
70K compared to Superman Rebirth one shot and issue #1 doing over 100 each. Literally DOA. But they'll spin it. Issue 3 & 4 were artificially brought higher to allow for them to be returnable.

So think of that. Bendis could only do 70K on a complete returnable number one and had to use a scheme tha would raise order numbers higher than the normal returnability 10% so that even when they're returned comichron only docks them that ten percent.

Issues 5 & 6 could be stunningly low.

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Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 01:21:30 No.101253587 Report

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>>101253466
Specially DC's biweekly format. 2 of them make a 1.5 of the old ones.

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Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 01:28:09 No.101253705 Report

Quoted By: >>101253857 >>101253892 >>101254246

>>101252260
Comic companies should just drop floppies altogether and just do TPBs and Hardcovers . That way you are more likely to get better art and and less rushed choices and decompressed storytelling.

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Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 01:36:51 No.101253857 Report

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>>101253478
>70K compared to Superman Rebirth one shot and issue #1 doing over 100 each
Didio BTFO

>>101253705
Your casual ass should fuck off to a cartoon thread.

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Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 01:38:55 No.101253892 Report

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>>101253705
Do you have any idea of how many hundreds of thousands of overpriced little magazines they are pushing to idiots every month?
You fucking should, there are threads listing the figures all the time here.
And what I find hilarious is how peevish and proud company faggots are about floppy sales.

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Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 01:44:32 No.101253982 Report

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>increase price
>sales drop
>lower price
>sales drop because your books are liberal propaganda

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Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 01:44:41 No.101253986 Report

Quoted By: >>101254048

>>101253892
There's some company faggotry to it in the threads but for patricians it's about seeing if your favorite book is dipping to cancellation or doing well.

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Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 01:48:22 No.101254048 Report

Quoted By: >>101254153

>>101253986
Let's be honest for a moment; it's company wars faggotry.
Anyone interested in the sales of a particular favorite would just look up the figures.
It's posted here for dick-wagging purposes.

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Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 01:52:59 No.101254136 Report

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>>101252299

Same. I can justify buying a one shot or individual comics based on the art (like the Gurihiru Gwenpool issues), but buying full runs is fucking retarded when you have no guarantee of quality standards.

We're a long way from Starman.

>>101252848
>No one buys comics anymore

I wouldn't say that. The market has changed. The people reading comics now want tankobon, not floppies, and the reason for it is obvious: they're cheaper, easy to find, and with more genres and consistency.

DC and Marvel really should've saw this coming, but they literally spent a decade milking fanboys instead of addressing the real threat.

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Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 01:53:36 No.101254140 Report

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>>101252834
He's more creatively bankrupt than anything in comics.

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Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 01:54:21 No.101254153 Report

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>>101254048
Lets be honest for a moment, you're not telling me shit. Specifically because I literally said that, but also because you're new as fuck if you're complaining about sales threads.

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Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 01:54:38 No.101254161 Report

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>>101253476
Watch them ignore your post to keep making posts like >>101252940 in future threads

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Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 01:56:05 No.101254181 Report

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>>101254136
Asian ant-people with buy comics about chess club printed on recycled toilet paper.
No US comic company gives a shit what ant-people want to read.

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Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 01:59:48 No.101254246 Report

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>>101253705

Moving capes to TPBs would be a disaster. The only reason that genre thrives is because it can shove it's dick in your face every month and make you look at it.

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Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 02:11:53 No.101254429 Report

Quoted By: >>101254476

Comic books haven't made Marvel or DC money in a long, long time. It was always about licensing deals, and with movies, they've hit paydirt. Comics will survive as long as licensed media can subsidize it. So to those who cry and tug at your mom's blouse because you hate the MCU or crappy Justice League movies, remember they're the only thing keeping this thing we enjoy alive.

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Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 02:14:40 No.101254476 Report

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>>101254429
>I'm talking DIRECTLY out of my ass
Shut up retard.

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Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 02:15:47 No.101254489 Report

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>>101254476
Read this. Very interesting, a lot to learn.

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Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 02:17:20 No.101254510 Report

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>>101252260
>let Snyder have sex with you
>gets assigned a Batman book

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Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 02:19:44 No.101254549 Report

Quoted By: >>101254658 >>101254770 >>101254970

>>101252260

Well, yeah, but they're also making more money per sale.

DC is trying to squeeze every dollar out of traditional fans, while Marvel is trying to get new readers but failing pretty hard. Comics are hotter than they've been in years, and superheroes hotter than maybe they've ever been, but superhero comics aren't seeing much growth in readership.

The Big Two are increasingly struggling to survive in an industry splitting into a billion niches.

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Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 02:22:00 No.101254575 Report

Quoted By: >>101254946 >>101259281

>>101254136
> The people reading comics now want tankobon, not floppies, and the reason for it is obvious: they're cheaper, easy to find, and with more genres and consistency.

Not sure where to start with this but wow you're retarded.

>cheaper
>easy to find
>more genres and consistency

First off you have no idea what people reading comics now want, because you don't read them. Secondly, the real threat is the death of physical, which isn't really a death, but everyone is increasingly becoming more focused on digital. Lastly, they have less genre's when you condense them down. Most of the stories are identical to others but with minute differences.

Bleach, DBZ, One Piece, Naruto....They're all essentially the same exact "genre", but with different settings, and characters with slightly different personalities, where as the "superhero" genre is hardly a "genre" since Batman is completely different from Animal Man, or Suicide Squad, with the only consistency between them being superpowers. The Superhero genre alone is far more diverse than half of manga, which can essentially be split up into 3 groups; rag-tag group of special friends with powers engage in battles with other-worldly/overpowered villains, school dramedy featuring confused pervy main character who can't get a girl while the tsundere girl secretly has a crush on him, and mech fighting mechs or mechs fighting giant aliens.

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Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 02:22:44 No.101254591 Report

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>>101252788

Webcomics, manga, and especially children's books.

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Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 02:26:48 No.101254653 Report

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>>101252940

>How far we have fallen to where that's the only way to be a successful comic author at this point.

What? No, no, the way to make money in comics is going indie and trying to get patreon supporters. 70,000 people buying Superman, but 2,000 people subbing your patreon means you have a secure full-time job.

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Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 02:27:05 No.101254658 Report

Quoted By: >>101254704

>>101254549
> and superheroes hotter than maybe they've ever been,

The Golden Age's sales dwarf's modern sales by a significant margin in terms of units sold.

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Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 02:29:59 No.101254704 Report

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>>101254658

I mean how millions of people want to see superhero movies semi-regularly, and DC/Marvel has been unable to convert basically any of them to becoming a comics reader.

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Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 02:32:23 No.101254741 Report

Quoted By: >>101254874 >>101255022

>>101252940
>to where that's the only way to be a successful comic author at this point

The irony is that we're all laughing at you because you are stupid. Mangaka make shit money 90% of the time. Working for the Big 4 secures you a decent salary with benefits. You'd have to be a fucking moron to move to Japan to make manga for a living.

It's called "have talent and learn how to make a deadline" kiddo.

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Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 02:34:44 No.101254770 Report

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>>101254549
>The Big Two are increasingly struggling to survive in an industry splitting into a billion niches.

>says increasingly nervous /a/utist for the 37003583861st time this week

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Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 02:41:18 No.101254874 Report

Quoted By: >>101254902

>>101254741
>It's called "have talent and learn how to make a deadline" kiddo.

Does the nursing home know you're shitposting on the internet, Boomer man?

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Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 02:43:08 No.101254902 Report

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>>101254874
Ahhh, sorry, I forgot that Gen Z is beginning, now that they've stopped shitting in their diapers, and you don't think talent matters anymore.

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Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 02:44:17 No.101254916 Report

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>>101252260
>>101252318
That's somewhat weird since /biz/ buys high, obviously.

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Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 02:46:10 No.101254946 Report

Quoted By: >>101255117 >>101255235 >>101255278 >>101255699

>>101254575
I'm not a big manga guy but saying that all those shonen manga are the same but going on about Superhero books are all different or some generalization is really stupid. I'm saying this as someone who bookshelves full of cape comics. There are very few kinds of superhero comics, characters rarely if ever achieve any meaningful development, and there is no "ending" to any of it.
>They're all essentially the same exact "genre", but with different settings, and characters with slightly different personalities
is exactly what I would say about cape comics. This may as well be true for manga, but capes are still guilty.

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Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 02:47:59 No.101254970 Report

Quoted By: >>101257578

>>101254549
Marvel makes more money from comics than DC does

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Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 02:50:30 No.101255022 Report

Quoted By: >>101262924

>>101254741
>It's called "have talent and learn how to make a deadline" kiddo.

Shit... In Chuck Dixon's case, you only have to meet the deadline.

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Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 02:55:31 No.101255117 Report

Quoted By: >>101258291

>>101254946
It should be noted that DC occasionally puts out non-cape books, most notably westerns and fantasy, and they don't sell that well. It's not that the US comic market is only capes, it's that the US comic consumer primarily wants capes - and that extends out of the Big 2.

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Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 02:59:38 No.101255202 Report

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>>101252299
>15 mins of entertainment
IF you're reading it slowly and looking meticulously at the lazy poser art MAYBE

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Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 03:01:18 No.101255235 Report

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>>101254946
>but going on about superhero books
I gave 3 examples. And it's only "stupid" when you have no other way of defending against that assertion, IE, they ARE All the same, while there's a greater variation between titles in the Superhero genre than there are in Manga as a whole.

>is exactly what I would say about cape comics. This may as well be true for manga, but capes are still guilty.

Infinitely wrong. You're only saying that because of the abundance of super powers, but the characters themselves are completely different in terms of personality. I can see how someone would like One Piece, the drawings are very expressive and there's always some sort of action happening on the page whether it's just an exaggerated form of eating to running or fighting, but if you're going to pretend that Naruto Uzumaki is significantly different from Monkey D. Luffy, you're kidding yourself. Meanwhile, every single person on the Justice League has their own unique personality which you can instantly identify. Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman, Flash, Hawkman, Hal Jordan, Martian Manhunter, Cyborg. Even amongst Green Lantern's they have their own unique personalities.

With a few exceptions, you rarely see characters in Manga written acting outside of their archetypal personality traits.

Swamp Thing is more than just a setting change, Doom Patrol is more than just a setting change, Batman, Flash, Wonder Woman, and a plethora of other titles....X-Men, Spider-Man, Savage Dragon. They all had unique identities as series that sold them as characters.

Part of it could be explained as being that Mangaka's write for their Otaku audience, which forces extreme limitations on their ability to experiment with their characters, but you don't see comics like Astro Boy or Akira anymore. Akira might be a bit unfair since it's essentially the Watchmen of Manga.

>and there is no "ending" to any of it.
They are immortal. They have no end.

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Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 03:04:02 No.101255278 Report

Quoted By: >>101255457 >>101258312 >>101263019

>>101254946
>There are very few kinds of superhero comics, characters rarely if ever achieve any meaningful development,

Not sure what you consider "meaningful development," seeing as everyone in the main DC line has achieved SIGNIFICANT development. I feel like this is the fail-safe argument of someone who pretends they read comics, but actually never even picked up a trade. You'd be able to see this change happen over time even if you only read 3 DC story arc's, going from the 80's, to the 90's, to now. It's really quite self evident. Green Lantern is a specific example. I feel like I've had this argument before with one autist who was trying to argue that comic book characters don't achieve any meaningful development, but he was proven wrong and laughed out of the thread.

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Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 03:10:23 No.101255396 Report

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>>101252260
>alienating fans with sjw propaganda
>increasing prices and canceling books left and right
>being total dicks to comic shop owners
I'm glad comic industry is dying, maybe they will be replaced by something better

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Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 03:13:04 No.101255457 Report

Quoted By: >>101255508 >>101255566 >>101255608 >>101255636 >>101255699

>>101255278
You're calling me a liar, that I haven't read thousands of comics and have them proudly displayed on shelves? Last argument of retards.

Yeah, these characters "develop" until that "development" is undone in the future or forgotten about. The very nature of the medium (never ending publication, multiple creative teams) does not allow for satisfying character development to actually stick. Like I said, I don't like manga very much and the other guy arguing with me has a lot of very good points to be made against manga, but the ONE thing manga has over anything in American capes, is the stories are (generally) the creative work of ONE person, and those stories END.

By the way if you want to know what "real" and "meaningful" character development looks like, look at your own life. Ask about the lives of others. Read about people's lives. The profound changes that we experience, that seriously alter who we are, THAT is that character development is supposed to look like. But like I said, because Cape comics a) never end and b) have a new writer coming to undo everything, Superheroes will never be treated like real people, and never feel like real people. Read a fucking book.

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Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 03:15:40 No.101255508 Report

Quoted By: >>101255527 >>101255566

>>101255457
>shelves
You don't read comics. You read manga and a few trades. You certainly haven't read thousands. Fuck off newfag.

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Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 03:16:32 No.101255527 Report

Quoted By: >>101255549 >>101255617 >>101255783

>>101255508
Believe whatever you need to to feel like you've won this "argument".

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Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 03:17:46 No.101255549 Report

Quoted By: >>101255735

>>101255527
I'm a different anon. And I'm right. Floppies don't go on shelves.

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Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 03:18:46 No.101255566 Report

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>>101255457
Read >>101255508

>The very nature of the medium (never ending publication, multiple creative teams) does not allow for satisfying character development to actually stick.

Confirmed for not reading comics. Fuck off.
>ignores Harley Quinn
>ignores Hal Jordan
>ignores Kyrpto
>ignores Wally West
>ignores Red Hood
>ignores Zod

Take your shit taste somewhere else weaboo retard.

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Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 03:20:53 No.101255608 Report

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>>101255457
This is that one faggot who started that thread a few weeks ago about why he doesn't think comic book characters change at all, and then it was revealed he was wiki-reading retard who doesn't read comics at all, isn't it?

>The profound changes that we experience, that seriously alter who we are, THAT is that character development is supposed to look like.

And THAT has happened, read a fucking trade you incompetent retard.

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Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 03:21:16 No.101255617 Report

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>>101255527
>won this "argument"
Clearly you're twelve.

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Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 03:22:34 No.101255636 Report

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>>101255457
>But like I said, because Cape comics a) never end and b) have a new writer coming to undo everything, Superheroes will never be treated like real people, and never feel like real people
You're trying so hard, and failing so spectacularly.

>>>/a/

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Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 03:25:30 No.101255699 Report

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>>101255457
>>101254946

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Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 03:27:14 No.101255735 Report

Quoted By: >>101255865

>>101255549
Good thing they sell comics in book form as well

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Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 03:29:49 No.101255783 Report

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>>101255527
>comic needs to have an ending in order to be good

Well, technically, Batman has had lots of "endings". I'm not sure what you're implying though. Superhero's tend to be characters that lend themselves to being told forever, like the heroes of ancient mythology.

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Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 03:31:56 No.101255821 Report

Quoted By: >>101255858

I've dropped A LOT of books, and have been selling runs I don't care as much about. The prices are nuts for what you get. You just can't justify it anymore. I can't just dive into a title and give it a chance before I do some research. And with runs getting cancelled so often after you put so much time and money in them, it's hard not to feel ripped off. I'm very unhappy that DC has raised the prices to match Marvel. Especially when they said in the beginning that the price point of Rebirth would be 2.99. But even 2.99 for some of these titles is undoable.

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Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 03:32:55 No.101255844 Report

Quoted By: >>101255877 >>101255893 >>101255942

>>101252848
Trade Paperbacks are the way to sell a book these days. Nobody cares about 30 page floppies every week when they can just get a 200 page tbp for $15 instead and have a complete story.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 03:33:32 No.101255858 Report

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>>101255821
>2.99 is undoable

Nigga, that's what they cost 15 years ago, how is that undoable?

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Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 03:33:56 No.101255865 Report

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>>101255735
And I'm sure he has thousands.

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Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 03:34:35 No.101255877 Report

Quoted By: >>101255942

>>101255844
This. Only thing that worries me is the dramatic shift in business practices that would have to take place, and what the change would be in relation to the quality of the art/writing.

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Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 03:35:18 No.101255893 Report

Quoted By: >>101255915 >>101255957 >>101256056

>>101255844
This discussion has literally be happening why drive-by post some bullshit like this unless you're baiting? Fuck off.

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Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 03:36:31 No.101255915 Report

Quoted By: >>101256163

>>101255893

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Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 03:38:01 No.101255942 Report

Quoted By: >>101255973 >>101256024

>>101255844
>>101255877
>>101254136
I hate newfags and younfags. They're always, ALWAYS, fucking /a/ fags. Jump off a cliff and stop speaking for comic readers, you aren't one.

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Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 03:38:55 No.101255957 Report

Quoted By: >>101256163

>>101255893

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Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 03:39:41 No.101255973 Report

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>>101255942
So all those people in the /shelf/ threads aren't comic readers either? Fuck off you drooling retard

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Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 03:42:19 No.101256024 Report

Quoted By: >>101256191 >>101258867

>>101255942
Never read a manga in my life m8

I just don't have enough money to be dropping 30$ a month on floppies when I could buy a complete volume for half the price.

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Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 03:44:00 No.101256056 Report

Quoted By: >>101256163

>>101255893

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Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 03:50:31 No.101256163 Report

Quoted By: >>101256195

>>101255915
>>101255957
>>101256056
>Newfag Samefags when laughed at
Like clockwork

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Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 03:51:49 No.101256191 Report

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>>101256024
Personal info or it's fake.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 03:51:59 No.101256195 Report

Quoted By: >>101256229

>>101256163
>wah people disagree with me
it'll be ok champ

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 03:53:44 No.101256229 Report

Quoted By:

>>101256195
Now switch on/off wifi phoneposter

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 05:16:05 No.101257490 Report

Quoted By:

>>101252940
Only one person has ever successfully pulled this off.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 05:24:05 No.101257578 Report

Quoted By: >>101257812

>>101254970
Doubtful. DC destroyes Marvel in trades

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 05:42:39 No.101257812 Report

Quoted By: >>101257864 >>101258875

>>101257578
the only trades DC sells consistently are books made by Miller and Moore

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 05:46:12 No.101257864 Report

Quoted By:

>>101257812
+ all the Vertigo stuff

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 06:35:25 No.101258291 Report

Quoted By:

>>101255117
when was the last time we saw fantasy, western, war, or horror comics though

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 06:38:22 No.101258312 Report

Quoted By:

>>101255278
the only character not allowed to achieve anything is Spider-Man for some reason

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 06:42:52 No.101258363 Report

Quoted By: >>101258385 >>101258540

How do mangas do it? When I was in japan, bookstores were ALWAYS full of people. Everyone was reading manga or something.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 06:44:51 No.101258385 Report

Quoted By:

>>101258363
What costs what is different in Japan. Last time I checked, buying an anime blu-ray with only 3 or 4 episodes costs several times more than it would to buy the complete series in America.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 06:59:16 No.101258540 Report

Quoted By: >>101258831

>>101258363
not having your country full of devoid of any culture la creaturas helps

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 07:30:42 No.101258831 Report

Quoted By:

>>101258540
this. no one reads anymore. it's scrolling through twitter, and 2 minute youtube videos.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 07:35:09 No.101258867 Report

Quoted By:

>>101256024
>Bill Finger is the only one credited
what a time to be alive

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 07:36:11 No.101258875 Report

Quoted By: >>101259002 >>101264224

>>101257812
yeah, and Marvel doesn't have any trades that sell consistently.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 07:49:26 No.101259002 Report

Quoted By:

>>101258875
except Scholastic stuff like Spider-Girl back in the day but that's why they set up Unlimited, they don't care about selling those old stuff because they're making so much on new ones

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 07:55:10 No.101259051 Report

Quoted By: >>101259165 >>101262559

>>101252260
They're still the only publisher $2.99 books Except I think for Image and then again that's pretty much just Walking Dead. Floppies are a real waste of money though even at that price

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 07:56:12 No.101259065 Report

Quoted By:

>>101252728
You're still posting this after the AT&T buyout?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 08:01:39 No.101259113 Report

Quoted By:

>>101252940
>How far we have fallen to where that's the only way to be a successful comic author at this point.
It's true that if you hit it big at Jump then you're set for life, Eiichiro Oda must have more money than God since he's had no time to spend it for 20 years. But you can make money through western comics. Robert Kirkman is the best current example. You're never going to get rich just working for the Big 2 though

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 08:07:30 No.101259165 Report

Quoted By: >>101259189

>>101259051
saga is 2.99

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 08:11:04 No.101259189 Report

Quoted By:

>>101259165
Yeah I thought they had a few but Walking Dead was all I was sure of

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 08:23:10 No.101259281 Report

Quoted By:

>>101254575
>where as the "superhero" genre is hardly a "genre" since Batman is completely different from Animal Man, or Suicide Squad,
It's too retarded. Even for baiting.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 08:33:40 No.101259367 Report

Quoted By: >>101259398 >>101259431 >>101259976 >>101262928

>>101252299
Lads help me; I've got a 40$ monthly pull-list, and I don't even like half of the shit I'm reading, but I'm a characterfag.

>East of West
I've been with this since #1, and I like it, so I'm sticking with it.
>Darth Vader
Honestly comfy, and I like it.
>Black Monday Murders
It's just 4 more issues anyhow, and it's one of my favorite books in recent times.
>The Wild Storm
Probably my favorite book out now.
>Deathstroke
It's gotten pretty boring, but I'm a Sladefag, and it's not that shabby. Plus, I can't drop it now, and it's the closest I can get to modern millitary comics.
>X-O Manowar
Honestly, it's rather boring. Good art, but... All he does is rage about Romans and pretend the Visigoths were "gud bois".
>Ninja-K
I wanted to read spy stuff, not fucking Voodoo Punk Rockers and goddamn Aliens.
>Tony Stark: Iron Man
I've been an Ironfag for close to 20 years, and the first issue was just a tinsy bit better than Gillen's and Bendis' shit, so... I don't know. Characerfag-ways make me wanna keep it, but...
>Slott's F4
I only added it because of Doom being mentioned in the solicits, but... I think I made a mistake.
-
I don't know, I read lots of stuff by downloading them, so it's not like I'm a Capeshitter, but my monthly pulls are boring and mostly out of dedication. I've managed to drop other stuff I was characterfagging for, but these last few ones, well...

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 08:34:04 No.101259372 Report

Quoted By: >>101259483

>>101252788
Literally nobody buys floppies except autismos who don't know how to view comics online for free. Comics are dead. Comic miniseries to push movies is the only path forward.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 08:36:58 No.101259398 Report

Quoted By: >>101259484

>>101259367
drop Valiant shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 08:41:27 No.101259431 Report

Quoted By: >>101259484 >>101262911

>>101259367
missing from your list is literally the only good ongoing comic. (tom king's batman)

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 08:41:56 No.101259437 Report

Quoted By:

>>101252940
you could also draw furry cuck porn comics and make more money than a surgeon

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 08:47:52 No.101259483 Report

Quoted By:

>>101259372
I wanted to mention One Piece... but then I remembered SAGA, Walking Dead and Little Moments of Love. So fucking zombies shut up, the only reason for the low comics sales of Big 2 is that their comics are shit and nothing else.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 08:48:01 No.101259484 Report

Quoted By: >>101262051

>>101259398
But I thought Valiant was KINO. In all honesty, the only Valiant thing I've enjoyed was 2015's Ninjak.
>>101259431
I had that until #42 or so and then dropped it. I can't afford a double-shipping 4$ book anyhow. And also it's trash.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 09:44:17 No.101259976 Report

Quoted By:

>>101259367
Drop
>X-O
>Ninjak
>F4
Keep
>EoW
>DV
>BMM
>TWS
>DS
Dunno
>IM

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 10:34:59 No.101260380 Report

Quoted By:

>>101252260
The price increase happened last year. What's truly stupid is raising the double shipping books which will hurt them badly.

Patricia Emily Bingo Bango Banjo Jean Rooney !MARA.QPFVA

Patricia Emily Bingo Bango Banjo Jean Rooney !MARA.QPFVA Fri 22 Jun 2018 10:41:05 No.101260425 Report

Quoted By: >>101262153

>>101252260
Buy trades like an adult, Anon!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 13:47:36 No.101262051 Report

Quoted By: >>101262087

>>101259484
Valiant hasn't been good for a long time

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 13:48:26 No.101262058 Report

Quoted By:

>>101252788

Image has steadily been doing that the past decade thanks to Kirkman.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 13:51:06 No.101262087 Report

Quoted By: >>101262121

>>101262051
Dunno, I liked Ninjak 2015, like I said, so I gave more titles a shot. But they were all a major step down.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 13:55:23 No.101262121 Report

Quoted By: >>101262330

>>101262087
Ninjak is basically the only good thing they've put out recently. They were the hot new meme for a minute, then they had creative team rotations, and everything just kind of went to shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 13:57:50 No.101262153 Report

Quoted By:

>>101260425
Fuck you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 14:08:58 No.101262281 Report

Quoted By:

>>101252299
>$4.30
I can get 2 or 3 hentai games for that price.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 14:12:46 No.101262330 Report

Quoted By:

>>101262121
I'm pulling the current Ninjak too, but it's got the same problem as the first volume. It starts off with spy stuff, and then goes full-on ghosts, zombies and aliens with a 5-man supporting cast.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 14:23:01 No.101262463 Report

Quoted By:

>>101252260
Wait until you see how bad the June numbers are. Ladderbro will be taking a victory lap.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 14:24:10 No.101262484 Report

Quoted By:

>>101252322
>>101252649
Honestly it's actually probably to do with bendis' contract considering they bought all his garbage books as well.

But it's also clearly to offset the price of the Giant shit books they've announced and to offset printing DCN issues for free.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 14:29:23 No.101262559 Report

Quoted By: >>101262598

>>101259051
Alterna is small press and does it. The paper quality DC uses is mindless. If they didn't use tracer artists like janin which would look even worse on newsprint they would be smart to switch back for floppies and keep quality for the trades. It incentivizes some to go digital as well as floppies buyers saving money and having a reason to get the trade. Much lower overhead for printing as well.

Most art these days sucks which is why I find it hilarious that artists think they're having this renaissance. You're not, in any way shape or form. There are maybe six artists that "move the needle" to steal a phrase.

>inb4 some anon list a bunch of artists they like who are on failing books

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 14:32:50 No.101262598 Report

Quoted By: >>101262719

>>101262559
>the Big 2 are the only publishers that exist
>inb4ing your own post

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 14:38:02 No.101262667 Report

Quoted By: >>101262827 >>101262844 >>101263461

The Japanese legit do it the best with their format of anthologies, Shonen Jump being being the most common example of this but a few western examples like AD2000 exist too.
$10 for like 200+ pages of content, and it lets you check out other stories you may not have read otherwise, then everything gets compiled in to trades later.
The comic industry needs to drop floppies for individual comics and embrace a compiled together format like Shonen Jump does.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 14:41:12 No.101262719 Report

Quoted By:

>>101262598
>the Big 2 are the only publishers that exist
Re-read my first fucking word you stupid fuck.

>inb4ing your own post
Oh this is cute a newfag acting like inb4 is /thread. You literally ONLY inb4 your own fucking post retard. It means you're noting that you were here before a retard chimed in.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 14:48:09 No.101262827 Report

Quoted By: >>101262865

>>101262667
You think Shonen Jump is all the manga in Japan, brainlet? You think just because it's an anthology Shonen Jump doesn't get canceled? You seriously think anyone except a core group of fanboys reads 2000AD? You think 2000AD is still relevant in this day and age?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 14:49:12 No.101262844 Report

Quoted By: >>101262865

>>101262667
You think Shonen Jump is all the manga in Japan, brainlet? You think just because it's an anthology Shonen Jump doesn't cancel stuff? You seriously think anyone except a core group of fanboys reads 2000AD? You think 2000AD is still relevant in this day and age?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 14:50:35 No.101262865 Report

Quoted By: >>101263333

>>101262827
>>101262844
>Shonen Jump being being the most common example of this but a few western examples like AD2000 exist too.
>Shonen Jump being being the most common example
>the most common example
Reading comprehension brainlet

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 14:53:43 No.101262911 Report

Quoted By:

>>101259431
die in a fire

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 14:54:32 No.101262924 Report

Quoted By: >>101262940 >>101262942

>>101255022
>Chuck Dixon
but, he's good

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 14:54:44 No.101262928 Report

Quoted By: >>101262961

>>101259367
Keep EoW, Deathstroke, BMM, Wild Storm, and F4

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 14:55:54 No.101262940 Report

Quoted By: >>101263151

>>101262924
He probably meant Chuck Austen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 14:56:02 No.101262942 Report

Quoted By:

>>101262924
he'd be the blandest writer in comics if Dan Jurgens didn't exist

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 14:57:39 No.101262961 Report

Quoted By:

>>101262928
Why F4 and not IM? Both are written by Slott, and IM #1 was already kinda shitty. I don't see the other one turning out better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 15:01:51 No.101263019 Report

Quoted By:

>>101255278
> trying to argue that comic book characters don't achieve any meaningful development, but he was proven wrong and laughed out of the thread.
I remember that. He was specifically trying to say DC characters like batman didn't achieve meaningful development, but Marvel characters did (even though he didn't cite any examples). After that, his thread got deleted.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 15:13:49 No.101263151 Report

Quoted By:

>>101262940
>Chuck Austen
ah, okay

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 15:14:29 No.101263159 Report

Quoted By:

If I increased my price would people stop buying me?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 15:26:31 No.101263298 Report

Quoted By:

Funny. I just went by a comic shop that had the old "HOLD THE LINE AT 2.99" promo DC was running I think before the new 52.

DC Lied People Died.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 15:30:02 No.101263333 Report

Quoted By: >>101263439

>>101262865
Brainlet please. Your knowledge on the subject begins and ends at Shonen Jump.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 15:37:28 No.101263439 Report

Quoted By: >>101263573

>>101263333
So you're saying $4+ for a 15 pages of actual content floppie is sustainable for the main line brands like Batman, Superman, etc? All signs point to no so far.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 15:38:36 No.101263461 Report

Quoted By: >>101263489 >>101263647

>>101262667
>their format
Lol another newfag acting like anthologies are a Japanese invention. You couldn't even be assed to read some early action comics before posting?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 15:41:15 No.101263489 Report

Quoted By: >>101263532

>>101263461
Again, you fucking moron I was giving an example of a MODERN and COMMON print that does it. Of course it's not a new idea, but its rarely done anymore publishing in the States outside of indie comix.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 15:45:00 No.101263532 Report

Quoted By:

>>101263489
>indie comix.
Kys yourself. Stream it.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 15:47:59 No.101263565 Report

Quoted By:

>>101252260
My theory on how to save the comics industry is to start pulp runs again. Get the cheapest paper and ink possible, and 6 months after a comic comes out, reprint it in pulp. That way the people who want to keep jacking up prices for glossies can do what they do, but everyone else can actually afford to read the damn things. Also digital comics should be half the price of physical ones, but lord knows that's never going to happen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 15:48:46 No.101263573 Report

Quoted By: >>101263585

>>101263439
You really don't understand how things work.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 15:49:02 No.101263577 Report

Quoted By: >>101263591 >>101263610

>>101252260
I really think the big 2 should take a note from Japan and offer a shonen jump style magazine

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 15:49:55 No.101263585 Report

Quoted By: >>101263756

>>101263573
Then how do they?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 15:50:19 No.101263591 Report

Quoted By: >>101263616 >>101263781

>>101263577
>I'm baiting because I saw how annoyed anon was that newfags were claiming it's a Japanese thing
Fuck off faggot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 15:51:22 No.101263610 Report

Quoted By: >>101263630 >>101263647

>>101263577
You mean like they did in the 40s and 50s?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 15:51:53 No.101263616 Report

Quoted By: >>101263647

>>101263591
No, that is a legit suggestion. Take 5-6 new issues, publish them weekly on the cheap for half the price those issues would cost all together. People aren't reading floppies, so they've got to change up how they do things

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 15:52:55 No.101263630 Report

Quoted By: >>101263661

>>101263610
I would unironically love it if anthology comics came back

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 15:53:04 No.101263635 Report

Quoted By: >>101263699 >>101263782

Have anyone else thought that a lot of characters are doing worse nowdays because of solo stories? Let's take Naruto for example from the Japanese industry, it's a manga that have been extremely successful in Japan and worldwide because it had many interesting characters where everyone can have their own favourite.

Comics on the other hand, you see characters like Batman and Superman who lost their supporting cast because they are too big to appear as secondary characters anymore which force the writers to create new characters for both the main and the previous supporting character and it isn't easy to do so.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 15:53:55 No.101263645 Report

Quoted By:

>DC and Marvel will destroy themselves
>I have back issues to pirate and read for years
>when I've finally finished reading all my backlog, they might claw themselves out to be good again
At least that's my plan.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 15:54:07 No.101263647 Report

Quoted By: >>101263703 >>101263720

>>101263616
See:
>>101263610
>>101263461

You're as new as the dingle berry sliding out of my ass currently if you believe it's a Japanese thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 15:55:28 No.101263661 Report

Quoted By: >>101263734

>>101263630
Same. I'm just sick of it being referred to as a Japanese thing by newfags and children. And I don't think using anthologies to shill Bendis and king is worth it. You should make stars not continue wasting all of their resources shilling the same three writers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 15:58:23 No.101263699 Report

Quoted By:

>>101263635
Mmm, I see your point. Characters on their own are never interesting without someone to bounce off of.

Which is why I support the anthology idea. Putting all the Batman related characters together in one anthology will make it easier to connect them together while still make them do their own thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 15:58:37 No.101263703 Report

Quoted By: >>101263779

>>101263647
Jump is an anthology but it is distinctly different than how american comic anthologies used to work, you're just being contrarian.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 15:59:50 No.101263720 Report

Quoted By: >>101263779

>>101263647
Man you've been acting like a massive sperg in this thread. People are not calming that Japan came up with the idea, they're using them as an example of what people are doing today. Yes, it was common in the 40s-60s in the west but it isn't anymore.
Would you be less of a total sperg if people recommended the same course of action but said "Like the complication magazines of the 40s"? Its nothing but semantics.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 16:00:34 No.101263734 Report

Quoted By:

>>101263661
>You should make stars not continue wasting all of their resources shilling the same three writers
Ten times this. The point of anthology is to give a smaller characters a chance instead of shilling the same writers who are working on characters that going to sell regardless.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 16:02:13 No.101263756 Report

Quoted By: >>101263823

>>101263585
Not the way you think, faggot. If you want to come up with the idea of making comics 0.99 then sure, more power to you. 15 bucks would get you 15 comics while nowadays you can't even buy 4 with that money. Just know that you're fucking the writers, pencilers, inkers, colorists and letterers in the process. A smaller price tag also puts more pressure on the title because a low selling 4 dollar comic makes little money, a low selling 1 dollar comic just means the publisher is losing money.
If you want to save the industry then get better writers and artists instead of taking a handful of them and making a shit sandwich. Oh, you like this one story in this 100 page anthology? Well, good thing you paid for the whole thing and supported the shit too instead of just buying 4 different series you like.
And since you mentioned them, Shonen Jump shitcans series too if they're unpopular, especially in recent years so your suggestion doesn't end up helping the c list characters.
Oh and Shonen Jump is like SC Marvel compared to the other magazines that are IDW tier or below. Magazines go under in Japan quite often, Publishers go out of business.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 16:03:49 No.101263779 Report

Quoted By:

>>101263703
No it Monster Society of Evil literally set the blueprint for them.

>>101263720
It isn't though. It's /a/fags rewriting history. Comic companies stopped anthologies becuase they didn't sell as well. Im not in agreement with them but saying "take a page out of Shonen Jumps" book pretty much shows you're a weeb or newfag. And I get sick of it.

>Would you be less of a total sperg if people recommended the same course of action but said "Like the complication magazines of the 40s"?
That's not even close to the same. I'd prefer they say "why don't western comics go BACK to anthologies?" So much more direct and literally true than "they need to copy the Japanese." The japs copied us.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 16:03:58 No.101263781 Report

Quoted By: >>101263797

>>101263591
>The comic's characters have long been using katana and kung fu.
>REEEEEEEEEEEE, we will never accept anything Asian
MEGALOL

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 16:04:01 No.101263782 Report

Quoted By: >>101263806

>>101263635
>because it had many interesting characters
Top lel

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 16:05:35 No.101263797 Report

Quoted By:

>>101263781
I don't know what this means. Are you ESL?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 16:05:57 No.101263804 Report

Quoted By:

>>101252299
Why are you paying full price? At my LCS with my pull list plus customer loyalty discount (been going there since they opened in 2005) $4 comics are like 3.60 each with tax. Still dont get how they make money, probably just Magic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 16:06:11 No.101263806 Report

Quoted By: >>101263826 >>101263834 >>101264229

>>101263782
That's true, though. Say what you want about Naruto, but you can't deny that the characters are likable and interesting enough which played a big role in its popularity.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 16:07:57 No.101263823 Report

Quoted By: >>101263852

>>101263756
You're acting like it has to be 15 comics all with expensive color glossy pages
>And since you mentioned them, Shonen Jump shitcans series too if they're unpopular,
I know, that wasn't even the topic at hand. Of course shit gets dropped if it dosn't move.
Also I'm not implying that anthologies are a end all solution, some comics will do better just coming out straight to trade press, or as individual floppies, it just seems like for the big mainline names it would be a much better fit then their current nose diving publishing practices.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 16:08:13 No.101263826 Report

Quoted By: >>101263873

>>101263806
>you can't deny that the characters are likable and interesting
He and I literally just did. Naruto, Hinata and Lee are the only "characters". The rest are cliches and plot points.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 16:09:08 No.101263834 Report

Quoted By:

>>101263806
Don't make me laugh. The characters are one note as fuck and there were YEARS were some of these characters didn't even appear at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 16:10:24 No.101263852 Report

Quoted By: >>101263872

>>101263823
> some comics will do better just coming out straight to trade press
Are you retarded or just pretending? That basically means you're intentionally trying to make less money.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 16:11:35 No.101263872 Report

Quoted By: >>101263925

>>101263852
Plenty of comics never come out as individual floppies today anon... Do you even read comics past cape shit?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 16:11:37 No.101263873 Report

Quoted By: >>101263888

>>101263826
>Hinata is a character
Naruto-kun, Naruto-kun, Naruto-kun, Naruto-kun, Naruto-kun, Naruto-kun, Naruto-kun

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 16:13:01 No.101263888 Report

Quoted By: >>101263907 >>101263933

>>101263873
Are you implying she didn't show growth and change? Literally nobody else did. Natural cerainly didn't. Rock lee maybe. Most of them were just "plucky ninja number X". Hinata is pathetic and annoying but showed actual growth.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 16:14:20 No.101263907 Report

Quoted By:

>>101263888
>Are you implying she didn't show growth and change?
I'm not implying it, it's fact.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 16:16:19 No.101263925 Report

Quoted By: >>101263970

>>101263872
There are plenty of cartoonists that self publish, what's your point? Are you coming into this thread where there are talks about how the Big Two can expand to tell me that you read indie comics? Good for you, but if indie comic just means Image for you then...

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 16:16:56 No.101263933 Report

Quoted By:

>>101263888
Naruto certainly*

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 16:20:25 No.101263970 Report

Quoted By: >>101263999 >>101264010

>>101263925
While the thread is about the big 2 publishing practices and how it's tanking finacally, why must you jam your head in to a hole when publishing practices of other businesses that are doing BETTER then the big 2 are brought up? How is it not relevant?

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Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 16:22:49 No.101263999 Report

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>>101263970
>when publishing practices of other businesses that are doing BETTER then the big 2 are brought up
Namely?

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Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 16:23:28 No.101264010 Report

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>>101263970
>doing BETTER then the big 2
I can't imagine being so deluded to say shit like this. By no metric is that true.

And it's not relevant because nobody gives a fuck that you pointed out OGNs exist. You don't even need to go past capes for that knowledge. You're clearly just a smug indiefag. Sad thing is you likely think all non-big 2 is indie.

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Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 16:37:29 No.101264224 Report

Quoted By: >>101264290 >>101264298

>>101258875
Atleast Marvel still puts out trades for everything. Fucking DC still haven't finished the suicide squad or REBELS trades.

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Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 16:37:32 No.101264229 Report

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>>101263806
One have to give it to Naruto because not only his series was a huge success, now his and other characters' kids are having their own series and continue their legacy which more to say than a lot of mangas and comics.

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Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 16:41:28 No.101264290 Report

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>>101264224
>for everything
Well not really.

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Anonymous Fri 22 Jun 2018 16:41:56 No.101264298 Report

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>>101264224
marvel doesn't do reprints of their classics

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