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Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 12:33:30 2019 No.106459372 View Reply Original Report

>calarts getting BTFO
>/co/ is the one place not losing their shit over it
https://www.cartoonbrew.com/schools/calarts-students-launch-protest-as-annual-tuition-rises-to-over-50k-171415.html

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 12:34:54 No.106459386 Report

Quoted By: >>106459408 >>106468751 >>106468868 >>106480637 >>106482941

>>106459372
Imagine paying that much to get worse at drawing lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 12:36:15 No.106459395 Report

Quoted By: >>106459591 >>106459594 >>106459599 >>106460592

/co/ doesn't actually care about calarts
/co/ cares that mentioning calarts riles people up

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 12:37:43 No.106459403 Report

Quoted By: >>106460596

>cartoonbrew

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 12:37:55 No.106459408 Report

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>>106459386
Your paying for the connections. Calarts is a pipeline to the industry.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 12:39:22 No.106459417 Report

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> private arts university in one of the most expensive cities in the country
Oh no, poor kiddies. They'll just have to slum it at state school. :(

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 12:40:43 No.106459429 Report

Quoted By: >>106459451 >>106460138 >>106462217 >>106465142

>>106459408
Fuck off calart shill. The industry connections are made on tweeter these days. post art with the right tags and suck the cocks in public for free, and you get the jobs.

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Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 12:41:32 No.106459432 Report

>>106459372
>Student protesters carried signs that read “You Are Nothing Without Us,” “International Students Shouldn’t Pay More,” and “Stop Raising Tuition, Stop Oppressing Students.” Aside from their concerns regarding the increased costs, students also demanded more financial transparency, including information about scholarships, more decision-making power for the student body as a whole, and a more visible commitment to diversity. Affected students pointed to the tuition increase as a threat to diversity, as those from underprivileged backgrounds already have a difficult time accessing the higher education offerings at Calarts.

They can't be fucking serious

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Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 12:44:15 No.106459449 Report

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>>106459432
>Affected students pointed to the tuition increase as a threat to diversity

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 12:44:43 No.106459451 Report

Quoted By: >>106459479 >>106465091

>>106459429
prove it
give me like 5 examples

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 12:46:02 No.106459458 Report

Quoted By: >>106459509 >>106468615 >>106471124

>>106459432
>Affected students pointed to the tuition increase as a threat to diversity, as those from underprivileged backgrounds already have a difficult time accessing the higher education offerings at Calarts.
Yeah, just let people with no academic achievement and no money in, what could go wrong?

No, I am entirely serious, they've got to be better than the graduates they're churning out now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 12:48:06 No.106459472 Report

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Calarts is famous for one class of graduates who became talented Pixar creatives. And some really shitty millennial television.
It's the very definition of an over hyped institution.
Unwarranted self importance is the only phrase for them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 12:49:25 No.106459479 Report

Quoted By: >>106459501 >>106461189 >>106476306 >>106483229

>>106459451
Tiarawhy
Glitchedpuppet
Bob's Burgers guy whose name I can't remember
Egoraptor
Lauren Zuke

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 12:51:01 No.106459494 Report

Quoted By: >>106462792

>>106459372
So are you telling me it's time to drop stem and pose as a tranny PoC to dick around at Calarts for free amidst protestors?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 12:52:08 No.106459500 Report

Quoted By: >>106459529 >>106459539 >>106467250 >>106467710 >>106487957

>>106459432
>Affected students pointed to the tuition increase as a threat to diversity, as those from underprivileged backgrounds already have a difficult time accessing the higher education offerings at Calarts.
Why the fuck are these kids so fucking racist? Are they implying that people of a different culture and/or ethnicity are inherently poorer than them, and must inherently come from underprivileged backgrounds? What the fuck is their problem?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 12:52:14 No.106459501 Report

Quoted By: >>106459524 >>106460557

>>106459479
>Tiarawhy
The guy who makes MLP flash porn? What's he doing now?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 12:53:04 No.106459508 Report

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Imagine paying 50k to learn how to draw the same exact bean mouth shit as everyone else.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 12:53:11 No.106459509 Report

Quoted By: >>106466031 >>106470342

>>106459458
the main criteria should honestly be artistic merit in the student's portfolio

but the whole "only minorities are poor" is bullshit when the richest in the entertainment world are jews

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 12:53:17 No.106459510 Report

Quoted By: >>106459530 >>106468578 >>106480684

>>106459408
This, it's like going to Harvard or Yale but for cartoons, and given how hard of a field that is to break into these kids should shut the fuck up and pay or go back to making flash animations on newgrounds.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 12:54:36 No.106459524 Report

Quoted By: >>106459535

>>106459501
Working on a pilot for his own show. He stopped by /co/ a little while back. He was offered a spot on Rick and Morty IIRC but lives abroad so it couldn't quite work out at the time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 12:54:41 No.106459526 Report

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Let it crash and burn. One does not go to university for art. Law, medicine, or engineering? Sure.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 12:55:39 No.106459529 Report

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>>106459500
Blacks endlessly whine about not having any money and having to resort to crime.
So aren't they right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 12:55:45 No.106459530 Report

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>>106459510
Most people that can't really afford Harvard or Yale still don't make many connections, though. Sure there are some really socially outgoing people, but Ivy League schools are day camps for the elite; they're meeting people on their level, not reaching out for poorfags.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 12:57:20 No.106459535 Report

Quoted By: >>106459630 >>106461057

>>106459524
i hope his bunny thing goes well
it looks good

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 12:58:01 No.106459539 Report

Quoted By: >>106459550

>>106459500
Middle class white kids with a fucking saviour complex who only care about poor people if they're a minority they can patronise. I don't see them protesting to let white trash hillbillies into CalArts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 12:58:03 No.106459540 Report

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>>106459432
>a threat to diversity
fucking what

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 12:59:09 No.106459543 Report

Quoted By: >>106459557 >>106459578 >>106459674 >>106460036 >>106460094 >>106460856 >>106467352

>I can't afford to go to Yale and get a doctorate. Oh well, not everyone is meant for higher education.

>I can't afford going to CalArts and becoming an animator at Cartoon Network. REEEEEEE THIS IS SOCIETY'S FAULT, I DESERVE THIS EDUCATION!!!!!

Really makes you think, huh?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 13:00:30 No.106459550 Report

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>>106459539
Ironic considering every white person at CalArts is trash.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 13:00:34 No.106459551 Report

Quoted By: >>106459575

>every little shit and their mother apply to calarts because internet keep pretending it's the holy grail of animation schools
>school have limited number of seats
>increase price to regulate applicants
>WOOOOOOOOOOW WHY IS PRIVATE SCHOOL EVIL I AM POOR BUT DESERVE THE BEST
Meanwhile you can go to public school and achieve the same if not more plus have way more free time to network yourself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 13:01:10 No.106459557 Report

Quoted By: >>106459572

>>106459543
>no one at any other college is complaining about tuition

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 13:01:36 No.106459564 Report

Quoted By: >>106459583 >>106459587 >>106459674 >>106468058 >>106479118 >>106483461

>>106459432
Artfags are always on the hard left, so sadly, they are.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 13:02:37 No.106459572 Report

Quoted By: >>106461443 >>106463301

>>106459557
yes? Normal people plan education with their budget in mind.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 13:02:50 No.106459575 Report

Quoted By: >>106460138

>>106459551
You don't learn anything at calarts, you go there to get connections.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 13:03:13 No.106459578 Report

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>>106459543
It's not the education at this point. There is tons of talent out there that is either self taught or went to other universities. It's about the industry connections. Giing to CalArts is the only way you're getting into the animation industry, which is something like godhood to millenials.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 13:04:04 No.106459583 Report

Quoted By: >>106468058

>>106459564
They live in a world as fictional as the shitty cartoons they churn out

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 13:04:47 No.106459587 Report

Quoted By: >>106459603 >>106459607 >>106459640 >>106466188 >>106468058 >>106481687

>>106459564
Only at shit universities like Brown that has completely buckled to SJW nonsense. They have mandatory "Diversity officers" now to ensure diversity quotas are met.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 13:05:18 No.106459591 Report

Quoted By: >>106459750 >>106460631 >>106460828

>>106459395
why green?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 13:06:17 No.106459594 Report

Quoted By: >>106460631 >>106460828

>>106459395
what the fuck did that person eat/drink

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 13:06:43 No.106459599 Report

Quoted By: >>106459605

>>106459395
>THIS IS YOU WHO CARES ABOUT THE THREAD THIS IS YOU YOU YOU YOU YOUUUUUUU
Fuck off, dumb cunt.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 13:06:58 No.106459603 Report

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>>106459587
>oi m8 u got a loicense for dem blue oyes

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 13:07:34 No.106459605 Report

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>>106459599
lol that's so (you)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 13:07:45 No.106459607 Report

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>>106459587
Who are you trying to convince with that bullshit?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 13:09:46 No.106459615 Report

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Try googling "sarah lawrence college demands" for a big fucking laugh.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 13:10:37 No.106459622 Report

Quoted By: >>106459627

>>106459372
Just get your celebrity parents to bribe your way in.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 13:11:50 No.106459627 Report

Quoted By: >>106460634

>>106459622
Why didn't poor people think of that?
Dumb suckers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 13:12:10 No.106459630 Report

Quoted By: >>106461057

>>106459535

Oh that! I rememner that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 13:14:27 No.106459640 Report

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>>106459587

Evergreen is a better example. That is at least on the 'completely buckled' side.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 13:15:38 No.106459649 Report

Quoted By: >>106459755

Calarts is a joke. Let everyone will say. You pay for connections, not to sharpen talent or find your niche. Go into debt just to try and get a job in the generic animation pipeline.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 13:17:21 No.106459657 Report

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>>106459372

i personally welcome raised tuition. it should go over 100 000 and everyone who want attend should be tested on his jew DNA.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 13:20:33 No.106459674 Report

Quoted By: >>106459740 >>106459771 >>106469186

>>106459543
Not 'murrican, but is this not the whole point of student loans? I know in Bongland they can't be discriminatory about who they give student loans to, so even poorfags like me can get them.

>>106459564
>hard left
Please. Che and Fidel would have put these whiny entitled upper-middle class shits up against the wall. Identity politics faggots are the definition of soft.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 13:24:30 No.106459693 Report

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>>106459432
>those from underprivileged backgrounds already have a difficult time accessing the higher education offerings at Calarts.
but that's true
being poor will fuck you over and LA is hideously expensive to live in anyway
thems just facts. why get mad?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 13:26:28 No.106459705 Report

Quoted By: >>106459770

Why does /co/ hate non-STEM higher education?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 13:28:13 No.106459723 Report

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>>106459372
They do know that they can study in other places, even in other countries, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 13:29:40 No.106459731 Report

Quoted By: >>106464830

>>106459408
I know several people who work in the industry and have never gone to art school. All the recruiters care about is your portfolio. If it's great then a degree literally does not matter.

But yeah if you're a poor artist I can definitely see using those connections to get your foot in the door albeit at a huge cost (but if youre paying that much likely you have rich parents).

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 13:31:22 No.106459740 Report

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>>106459674
>student loans?
student loans may as well be an indentured servant contracts. one should avoid loans of any kind

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 13:34:09 No.106459750 Report

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>>106459591
Why not?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 13:35:01 No.106459755 Report

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>>106459649
But to a lot of these leftist adultolescents being a "creator" and having fans is the only way to gain self-actualization.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 13:36:29 No.106459770 Report

Quoted By: >>106459801 >>106459828 >>106461158

>>106459705
I don't think it's that, it's just the mentality of a lot of fags studying art and animation related subjects these days - They don't actually want to learn anything because they have such high opinions of themselves and their work and can't handle criticism, then they expect to be handed a job on a plate at the end. It's like if you don't want to learn and improve and put in the effort necessary to get a decent job, what the fuck are you even doing in higher education?

t. fag studying 3D animation. I think you could count the number of people who are actually putting in the work and likely to become successful on my course in any given year on one hand. The rest are just entitled niggers who've wasted a fuckton of money.

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Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 13:36:30 No.106459771 Report

Quoted By: >>106460953

>>106459674
>comparing the latinoamerican left with the burger one

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 13:40:29 No.106459801 Report

Quoted By: >>106459819

>>106459770
>racism
Kiss your job at (insert favorite studio) goodbye, honkey

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 13:44:15 No.106459819 Report

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>>106459801
Sorry, perhaps I should have clarified - By niggers I mean "niggers", not actual niggers. There's only one actual nigger and he's one of the most talented fucking guys here. If he can't find employment none of us will.

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Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 13:44:47 No.106459828 Report

Quoted By: >>106459936 >>106461023 >>106463342 >>106476057

>>106459770
So basically pic related?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 13:46:23 No.106459847 Report

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>>106459372
College prices wouldn't even be that high if the government didn't subsidize student loans.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 13:57:33 No.106459936 Report

Quoted By: >>106459987 >>106460068

>>106459828
Thankfully our tutors are actually pretty good. They have time for you if you're willing to engage, but yeah, they will write off anyone who it's easy to see isn't actually interested pretty quick. Those students tend to be more lackadaisical than outright confrontational, they're just too self assured with no good reason to be and reality is going to hit them hard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 14:03:00 No.106459987 Report

Quoted By: >>106460014

>>106459936
Where do you go anon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 14:05:29 No.106460013 Report

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>you are nothing without us

drop out then

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 14:05:35 No.106460014 Report

Quoted By: >>106460027

>>106459987
Sine I've now said nigger multiple times and insulted the majority of my classmates, gonna pass on divulging that information.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 14:07:10 No.106460027 Report

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>>106460014
Fair enough

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 14:08:41 No.106460036 Report

Quoted By: >>106460150

>>106459543
>Oh well, not everyone is meant for higher education.
lmao, imagine being a burger.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 14:11:58 No.106460068 Report

Quoted By: >>106460136

>>106459936
i'm often ashamed for not being as confident and self assured like my classmates.
they seem to have a lot more fun and an easier time aelling their ideas than ppl like me who are overly self critical

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 14:13:46 No.106460084 Report

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>>106459408
It's one of many pipelines.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 14:14:37 No.106460094 Report

Quoted By: >>106463320 >>106481561

>>106459543
At least you have a good shot at a decent return on investment from a prestigious law school

Imagine being 300k plus interest in debt just to make a measly 50k a year

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 14:19:15 No.106460136 Report

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>>106460068
If people are self assured AND good at what they do, that's not a problem. Those sorts of people can come across as dicks, but they'll probably go places. The problem is people who are self assured when their work actually isn't all that great and either don't think they need to improve or don't put in the effort to improve, which seems to be a lot of people.

Some measure of self-criticism and the ability to see the flaws in your work is the only way anyone improves. Just don't let it be crippling, you have to accept nothing you create is ever going to be perfect.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 14:19:36 No.106460138 Report

Quoted By: >>106492881

>>106459575
>>106459429 is right, connections are becoming increasingly more accessible thanks to social media. why the hell would you buy the cow when you can get the milk for free?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 14:21:22 No.106460150 Report

Quoted By: >>106472006

>>106460036
What does that have to do with anything? I don't have money for a masters degree but I know im too dumb anyways. Whats wrong with knowing your place and "settling" for bachelors. The real issue is with getting a job and finding sufficient pay

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 14:25:37 No.106460181 Report

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>>106459372
calarts the art style for those looking to cheap out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 14:31:42 No.106460241 Report

Quoted By: >>106460321 >>106460352 >>106462495 >>106463137 >>106464865 >>106481575

>>106459408
What fucking connections? If everyone goes there from nothing to find these precious connections, who has the connections? How does this connecting take place?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 14:38:06 No.106460321 Report

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>>106460241
the teachers. the people who leave mid semester and get into the industry.

its not the only pipeline though. and attending art shows and talking to people achieves similar.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 14:40:30 No.106460352 Report

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>>106460241
you kiss ass and party. When I was in uni, my teacher had a company and he hired people only from his students. I suspected it was his way to keep the power imbalance. finding dumb kids with rich daddy is always a win and just knowing people can pay off. Do you think its an accident that people from the same class often end up in 1 studio?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 14:47:02 No.106460416 Report

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>>106459408
>you're paying for a 1/400 chance of getting picked up by a major network
>a chance that goes down if you're not talented and exponentially down if you're not good at brown nosing

Wow

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 15:02:21 No.106460557 Report

Quoted By: >>106460702

>>106459501
I actually met several people in the industry after that event/job offer. A few who work on R&M have no degree (the background painter ghostbri who helped me out with bun painting in particular has no degree and blogs about getting into the industry without it).

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 15:05:48 No.106460592 Report

Quoted By: >>106460631 >>106460828

>>106459395
what the fuck is going on in this video? At first i thought it was some random gore and the girl was chopped in half, but now i have no fucking idea.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 15:06:06 No.106460596 Report

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>>106459403
I got banned from that site.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 15:09:11 No.106460631 Report

Quoted By: >>106460661 >>106460828

>>106459591
>>106459594
>>106460592
It's green because of st. Patrick's day. She drank too much green alcohol.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 15:09:51 No.106460634 Report

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>>106459627
Because my drug lord dad wanted me to be a buisness man

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Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 15:11:17 No.106460651 Report

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>>106459372
What's there to lose our shit over?
Some of the best artists never went to Cal-Arts. It's a scam meant to perpetuate the nepotistic cartoon industry.
The only way it will come down is if Cal-arts ceases to be a useful place to go. With this, that might happen.

We should be celebrating. This might be the second golden age of cartoons.

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Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 15:12:11 No.106460661 Report

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>>106460631
ty cultured anon, here have a (you)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 15:12:19 No.106460664 Report

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>>106459408
Exactly why the institution needs to fail and become irrelevant. Too many influential people go there, they go there to meet the previous generation of influential people.

It would just take one generation of cartoonists never going there to break the cycle and maybe insert fresh talent in the industry.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 15:16:37 No.106460702 Report

Quoted By: >>106460810

>>106460557
as far as i can gather from listening to others who have been in the industry, the degree is unnecessary. your work proves you, not that bit of paper.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 15:25:59 No.106460810 Report

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>>106460702
Yea pretty much. Plus how much money you make really does not justify the amount of money an art college costs (unless you got like a full scholarship ride).

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 15:28:05 No.106460828 Report

Quoted By: >>106461307

>>106460631
>>106459591
>>106459594
>>106460592
Poster here, it's BLACK because she's dying of alcohol poisoning and that's bile she's throwing up

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Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 15:29:10 No.106460841 Report

Quoted By: >>106461049

>>106459432
>$50k a year to draw fucking cartoons
>THINK OF THE MINORITIES

The white kids don't need to ride the shoulders of random blacks kids to make a point. They already have a golden point of leaving a school with $200k+ fucking debt to draw like pic related.

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Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 15:30:22 No.106460855 Report

Quoted By: >>106463490 >>106476397 >>106482179

>>106459372
People in this thread talking about connections, as if any studio worth working at would rather accept anyone based off of what school they went to as opposed to the contents of their portfolio. If you really care about connections you can get that online much easier nowadays, as many people in this thread have stated, or if you’d rather have a more in person approach there’s always conventions like CTN and Lightbox Expo, where actual creators and studios meet up and coming artists for portfolio reviews and stuff like that. Expecting to simply throw money at your problems and wanting the best possible out come is part of the problem with many artists today; they’d rather work “smarter” than harder.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 15:30:27 No.106460856 Report

Quoted By: >>106460992

>>106459543
Drawing cartoons is not a higher education and should not be as valued as performing fucking surgery. Not to mention someone can become a successful artist without even setting foot in college and that cannot happen with doctors.

You think every skill should require a $50,000 per year tuition?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 15:39:04 No.106460953 Report

Quoted By: >>106461148 >>106461216

>>106459771
Latin American Leftists are more retarded than anywhere else in the world

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 15:42:17 No.106460992 Report

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>>106460856
Private art schools and/or schools that focus on humanities or other social degrees are a scam and have always been expensive as hell. If some moronic parents want to pay for it then let them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 15:44:51 No.106461023 Report

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>>106459828
I think that comic just hit the nail on the head not just with art school but also every shitty indie art site like Deviantart and Tumblr.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 15:47:01 No.106461049 Report

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>>106460841
To be fair, pic related is the end result of westerners who grew up on anime thinking they can just take from it whenever they want.

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Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 15:47:48 No.106461057 Report

Quoted By: >>106461136 >>106461139

>>106459535
>>106459630
It's coming along but the part i was stuck on for a long time was just the writing. I've read more books on script writing and changed a lot since.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 15:55:03 No.106461136 Report

Quoted By:

>>106461057
nice

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 15:55:12 No.106461139 Report

Quoted By:

>>106461057
Cool, best of luck

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 15:55:58 No.106461148 Report

Quoted By: >>106461194

>>106460953
Better a retard than a faggot or black

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 15:56:38 No.106461158 Report

Quoted By: >>106478177 >>106488054

>>106459770
How true is this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 15:57:52 No.106461173 Report

Quoted By:

>>106459372
>Wahhh, I can't afford to get into a shitty art school in a shitty state and there are literally no other options available
Imagine being this poor and entitled.
It's no wonder the graduates are so talentless.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 15:58:51 No.106461189 Report

Quoted By: >>106462004 >>106482385

>>106459479
>Glitchedpuppet
Holy shit I forgot that she was commissioned to make an official SU comic cover and her rapist OCS made a cameo in an official SU comic.
Wonder what her industry friends think of her now after all the shit she and her pedo husbands pulled.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 15:59:04 No.106461194 Report

Quoted By: >>106461221

>>106461148
>Latin American
Worse than niggers
>Leftist
Faggots or faggot enablers

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 16:00:41 No.106461216 Report

Quoted By: >>106461801

>>106460953
Chicanos past 1st gen immigrants are the worst, no wonder South Americans hate them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 16:01:11 No.106461221 Report

Quoted By: >>106461318

>>106461194
t. black burger

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 16:01:36 No.106461224 Report

Quoted By: >>106461292 >>106461302 >>106469292

>>106459372
>People complain that the government should be involved in financing private education
>State subsidize educational institutions through taxpayer money
>These post-secondary institutions realize they have free funding to fund vanity projects, clubs, and projects that don't at all improve the quality of education, in order to charge more for tuition, or simply because they ca
>Taxpayers are charged more to subsidize these organizations and are FORCED to pay more through tuition
>The State of American education
Holy God, why the hell is no one stopping this? It's clearly obvious universities and colleges are scamming the American youth, and the Government is in on it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 16:03:05 No.106461247 Report

Quoted By: >>106468751

>>106459408
>news is breaking that major Cartoon Network TV is at all time lows and is crashing
>Orginal animation on Netflix, Hulu, Amazon and YouTube is becoming the major traffickers or animation.
>less than 5% come from Calarts

The dream is dead

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 16:06:34 No.106461292 Report

Quoted By:

>>106461224
>Holy God, why the hell is no one stopping this? It's clearly obvious universities and colleges are scamming the American youth, and the Government is in on it.
Stopping the program would be seen as being anti-education or racist because those grants and loan sharks are the only way a bunch of minorities can go to college or poor people can even get their foot in the door minus grants and scholarships.

So whoever does it will be seen as the biggest racist ever. Instead, they want the government to just forgive the loan and pretend it never happened or give college away for free.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 16:07:40 No.106461302 Report

Quoted By:

>>106461224
What can we do? Threaten to vote our reps out of office? Good luck with that because old people hate all young people that isn't their children or grandchildren and don't care. They think all that tax money is going to benefit them which some of it is so they turn a blind eye.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 16:08:15 No.106461307 Report

Quoted By:

>>106460828
So uh, did she die?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 16:09:15 No.106461318 Report

Quoted By: >>106463074

>>106461221
>Burger
Yes
>Black
>Implying niggers even know how to use technology

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 16:13:48 No.106461367 Report

Quoted By: >>106461615 >>106462638

>>106459372
You oughta know that actually talented artists are against major schools like CalArts taking people's money. But try not to lump all art schools in with CalArts. You're making Hannah sad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 16:16:33 No.106461396 Report

Quoted By: >>106461409 >>106461416

>>106459372
There goes my dream... so now what? just draw and do my own animations and just do a tweeter account until someone eventually notices my talent?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 16:17:20 No.106461409 Report

Quoted By: >>106461428

>>106461396
You should have been drawing all along, making a portfolio for yourself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 16:17:47 No.106461416 Report

Quoted By: >>106461525 >>106461536

>>106461396
Attend CTNX

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 16:19:02 No.106461428 Report

Quoted By:

>>106461409
I do have my own portfolios, I have been doing that for 2 years and a half. I guess I should continue doing my own thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 16:20:41 No.106461443 Report

Quoted By: >>106461491

>>106459572
Lmao, no. Have you ever listen to college kids speak about tuition? They're butt fucking retarded when it comes to finances.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 16:23:40 No.106461491 Report

Quoted By:

>>106461443
This, it's why their grand exit strategy for college was to vote for Bernie and let him forgive their college debts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 16:25:36 No.106461525 Report

Quoted By:

>>106461416
Nah. I'm good. I'll just my own thing from now on.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 16:26:39 No.106461536 Report

Quoted By:

>>106461416
Nah. I'm good. I'll just do my own thing from now on.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 16:32:31 No.106461598 Report

Quoted By: >>106461643 >>106476495

>PEOPLE GO TO CALARTS FOR THE CONNEECTIIOOONS
you guys do realize that animation studios have recruitment programs at countless art schools and universities right
i mean fuck becky “beanmouth” sugar came from SVA

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 16:35:15 No.106461615 Report

Quoted By:

>>106461367
These faggots could go to FZD but then they'd actually have to work hard

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 16:38:08 No.106461643 Report

Quoted By:

>>106461598
Yeah, but the idea is rely on nepotism in addition to or instead of talent.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 16:38:16 No.106461647 Report

Quoted By: >>106461968

If you want to go to Calarts for free-ish, just enroll for a summer course, get your ID, become friends with your teachers and the staff, and then sit in on all the spring/fall classes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 16:39:03 No.106461654 Report

Quoted By: >>106462196 >>106462468

I live in Florida... Someone recommend me a good art school. FullSail is shit, I went there and it was a complete shit show. The place wasn't interesting and everything (plus the presentations) didn't amuse me. Good thing I was granted to get a tour...and it was shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 16:52:39 No.106461801 Report

Quoted By: >>106461884

>>106461216
Right Chicanos are Latin American

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 16:59:06 No.106461884 Report

Quoted By:

>>106461801
Still as awful as the lefties, only this time with less we wuzzing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 17:06:20 No.106461968 Report

Quoted By:

>>106461647
Calarts might not anymore, but a lot of schools are cracking down on class auditing because they don't want people getting taught for free (even if you can't get a degree by auditing)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 17:08:54 No.106462004 Report

Quoted By: >>106462583

>>106461189
Animation industry is full of weirdos into kiddie stuff. Since she never actually got indicted for anything, she's doing just fine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 17:23:31 No.106462196 Report

Quoted By: >>106462468

>>106461654
>no one is recommending me anything

ok...

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 17:25:23 No.106462217 Report

Quoted By: >>106462693 >>106479087

>>106459429
>you can make connections on social media
Yeah if you're middle class or lower. You're still locked out of the Big Boys Club if you didn't got to the right school.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 17:43:44 No.106462468 Report

Quoted By: >>106462513

>>106461654
>>106462196
Ringling?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 17:46:04 No.106462495 Report

Quoted By:

>>106460241
Cal Arts was literally brought into existence by Walt Disney's own money to serve as an animator farm for his studio.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 17:47:41 No.106462513 Report

Quoted By: >>106462578

>>106462468
Looking that up as we speak...thanks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 17:52:34 No.106462578 Report

Quoted By:

>>106462513
gnomon

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 17:52:48 No.106462583 Report

Quoted By: >>106462936

>>106462004
Yeah but Marl, the dude who actually invited underage girls to make beastility porn of, disappeared completely, and his apology letter was written like a suicide note, so some people are speculating he straight up died.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 17:55:57 No.106462638 Report

Quoted By: >>106482069

>>106461367
Still waiting for the day you fags turn on her. I know it's gonna happen soon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 17:59:49 No.106462693 Report

Quoted By:

>>106462217
Connections is always a random game as you never know who knows who. You sometimes think that the 'big boys' only associate with other big ones but smaller people sometimes slip through the cracks mostly as old friends before they got big.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 18:00:39 No.106462709 Report

Quoted By: >>106487992

I visited Calarts a couple of years ago, this flyer was posted throughout the school. Expressing tuition grievances on the walls seem to be a thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 18:07:28 No.106462792 Report

Quoted By:

>>106459494
Yes, a Chem MS hasn't gotten me what I expected. Don't make my STEM mistake. Be a tranny, guilt girls into fucking you, they want to be guilted.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 18:14:26 No.106462887 Report

Quoted By:

>>106459432
Lmao the absolute state of california

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 18:17:21 No.106462936 Report

Quoted By:

>>106462583
His apology letter was faked. Glip said she “edited” it for release and Marl never posted it directly. Hell they were still living with one another after that letter was released. They all got legal name changes because someone registered their names as url’s calling them sexual predators and Marl changes to the same last name as the other two

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 18:26:43 No.106463074 Report

Quoted By:

>>106461318
>>>/b/

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 18:32:07 No.106463137 Report

Quoted By:

>>106460241
This is literally commonplace for every single industry. Are you really that autistic or do you really think nepotism only exists in the animation industry?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 18:40:53 No.106463252 Report

Quoted By:

I'm a special education teacher, and my curriculum centers around preparing high school students for the real world. This reminds me so much of the discussions I have to have with so many of them. Roughly 2/3rds of my male students want to be video game developers, and they absolutely do not want to hear that coding is difficult. So many of them think that they can get a job at Activision or EA as an 'idea man' and support themselves that way. There's this really aggravating sense of entitlement, this idea that "I want something, so I should have it" that I have to work and work at chipping down, providing more rational alternatives for future employment. The difference between my students and, presumably, the kids at CalArts is that mine are walking around with IQs in the 70s.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 18:43:10 No.106463284 Report

Quoted By:

>>106459432
They should raise tuition fees even more so they can give minorities a discount. Then grantee you a first in line seat if you are colored. I'd love it if they had the balls to do this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 18:44:11 No.106463301 Report

Quoted By:

>>106459572

>Normal people plan education with their budget in mind.

In an ideal world, this would be true.

In the actual world we live in, this is not even remotely true

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 18:45:31 No.106463320 Report

Quoted By: >>106463437

>>106460094

>At least you have a good shot at a decent return on investment from a prestigious law school

Law Degrees are actually pretty worthless right now due to oversupply.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 18:47:01 No.106463342 Report

Quoted By:

>>106459828

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 18:48:46 No.106463368 Report

Quoted By: >>106463498

Seems like better value than most unis.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 18:52:36 No.106463437 Report

Quoted By:

>>106463320
Pretty much every degree is in oversupply, because we're trying to send nearly every damn high school student to college whether they'd benefit from the education or not. Higher education is a racket designed to slow the generation's entry into the marketplace and ensure they're already paying into the debt-profit system by the time they get there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 18:55:42 No.106463490 Report

Quoted By: >>106466159 >>106471779

>>106460855
>People in this thread talking about connections, as if any studio worth working at would rather accept anyone based off of what school they went to as opposed to the contents of their portfolio

ITT: NEETs who don't know how hiring works

Putting out ads for jobs, filtering down to a few dozen portfolios, going through them all, and calling all those references takes a lot of time that you have to pay someone to do instead of whatever they normally would be doing.

It's way easier to ask one of your existing animators "Hey, know any animators?" and just get someone competent that you know can feel competent didn't fake their portfolio. You can even give your employees a few thousand bucks as a referral bonus. Now everyone's doing their normal jobs, you spent less money as a boss, and one of your employees is less likely to quit.

Connections aren't "Wow, you went to prestigious school!", they're "Oh hey, we did a group project in Mr. Walker's class, this guy's great!".

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 18:56:19 No.106463498 Report

Quoted By: >>106464729

>>106463368
You can go to the best animation schools in Canada at international student prices and wind up with a job in the industry for less than going to CalArts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 20:14:21 No.106464729 Report

Quoted By: >>106464788

>>106463498
Right because Canada has socialized their entertainment industry. Good for the people looking for work, but the overall quality suffers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 20:18:21 No.106464788 Report

Quoted By:

>>106464729
Who says anything about the Canadian industry? Do you know how many Sheridan grads there are in Hollywood?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 20:21:17 No.106464830 Report

Quoted By:

>>106459731
And CalArts gives you the opportunity to have the best friend of the guy who reviews the portfolios put it in that guy's hands, and taught you how to really tickle that guy's pickle.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 20:23:14 No.106464865 Report

Quoted By:

>>106460241
Faculty and alumni? How fucking poor are you and your family if you don't understand the concept of networking?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 20:28:08 No.106464945 Report

Quoted By: >>106465069 >>106484925

>>106459372
Fixed

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 20:35:18 No.106465069 Report

Quoted By:

>>106464945
Kek <--- (You)
Kek
Kek
Kek
Kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 20:36:25 No.106465091 Report

Quoted By:

>>106459451
>give me like 5 examples
I'll give you Rebecca Sugar and you'll shut up

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 20:39:11 No.106465142 Report

Quoted By:

>>106459429
He's right though, you can learn anything in art school on your own or cheap ateliers. You go to art school for connections.

This is true for most professions but art especially.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 20:44:49 No.106465225 Report

Quoted By: >>106465352

Spoiled kids realizing they're spoiled.

It's happening at campuses across the nation, what with protests over grades, and even having to take tests in the first place.

They want everyone to be equal, but equal at the top.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 20:52:26 No.106465352 Report

Quoted By:

>>106465225
>ALL ANIMATORS ARE EQUAL.
>SOME ANIMATORS ARE MORE EQUAL THAN OTHERS.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 21:23:03 No.106465791 Report

Quoted By: >>106466465 >>106481846 >>106481921

If you're not willing to go 50k in debt to get into the industry you love then you don't love it to begin with. Maybe you should stick to that stem degree then. *shrugs*

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 21:25:00 No.106465830 Report

Quoted By: >>106481841

>>106459408
Not anymore. A lot of the businesses that the school normally sends its students to after they graduate, are moving to Toronto.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 21:25:28 No.106465834 Report

Quoted By: >>106468409

>/co/ complains about Cal Arts and the animation industry in general being too homogeneous and full of rich kids
>Cal Arts students try to address this
>/co/ freaks out

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Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 21:27:52 No.106465857 Report

Quoted By:

>>106459372
>paying $50,000 to learn how to draw beanmouth

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Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 21:41:20 No.106466027 Report

Quoted By: >>106466790

>having to get an expensive degree to be an animator

It's pretty hilarious to me considering all my favorite animators were fucking dirt poor in sweatshops and literally lived in closets while they animated my favorite series.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 21:41:29 No.106466031 Report

Quoted By:

>>106459509
>but the whole "only minorities are poor" is bullshit when the richest in the entertainment world are jews
Who even mentioned jews? This is your brain on /pol/.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 21:49:05 No.106466159 Report

Quoted By:

>>106463490
That's how it works in IT. I got hired straight out of college and they asked if I knew anyone else because they still had positions to fill. I reached out to the handful of guys I knew who weren't completely worthless in group projects and set them up with interviews.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 21:51:22 No.106466188 Report

Quoted By:

>>106459587
RIP Brown University

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 21:53:45 No.106466216 Report

Quoted By: >>106466401 >>106470597 >>106471655 >>106476102 >>106478776

Here's an interesrting tweet thread
https://twitter.com/Cuppatan/status/1107029077951578112?s=09

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 21:55:17 No.106466241 Report

Quoted By:

>>106459372
there are people in tumblr and NG that are better artists that most CalArts graduates, people literally go there to network and suck dick. You'd figure with the rise of social media that would be a thing of the past, but I guess the prestige of "i went to a pricey as fuck school" still remains, which is why a literal scam corruption ring is thriving in a lot of Unis, and it's only gaining attention now.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 21:56:16 No.106466251 Report

Quoted By:

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 22:04:46 No.106466401 Report

Quoted By: >>106466429

>>106466216
wow this entire thing is a sham

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 22:06:30 No.106466429 Report

Quoted By:

>>106466401
Like 99% of higher education is a scam that only exists to try and get the same advantages as people who can rely on nepotism.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 22:08:26 No.106466465 Report

Quoted By:

>>106465791
>learn to code like a good goy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 22:21:33 No.106466725 Report

Quoted By:

>>106459372
They'd probably have more money for college if they didn't take out billboard ads

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 22:25:34 No.106466790 Report

Quoted By: >>106476549

>>106466027
Don't you need to be competent with 3D tools these days too ? They might have an excuse if they're buying ridiculously overpriced software for lighting,3D design and such.

Then again I paid 3k a year for my degree and we used equipment which cost more than the building it was stored in.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 22:52:18 No.106467250 Report

Quoted By: >>106468801

>>106459500
>must inherently come from underprivileged backgrounds
Ever heard of slavery?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 22:56:40 No.106467352 Report

Quoted By:

>>106459543
yale probably has more scholarships and a better chance of a higher paying job

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 23:13:43 No.106467669 Report

Quoted By:

>>106459432
>international students shouldn't pay more
el
oh
el

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 23:15:50 No.106467710 Report

Quoted By:

>>106459500
riding the SJW bandwagon.
Sure, minorities are poorer, but come on. we're talking about a 4% increase here, not 40. Calarts has been overpriced for decades, if black kids can't afford it now they couldn't afford it then either.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 23:22:33 No.106467832 Report

Quoted By: >>106469446

>>106459432
>“International Students Shouldn’t Pay More,”
How to make 100% of your campus chinese in one easy step

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 23:28:56 No.106467966 Report

Quoted By:

>>106459372
>A gajillion ways to learn how to be an artist for free on the internet
>REEEEE TUITION IS TOO MUCH LET ME IN

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 23:33:25 No.106468058 Report

Quoted By: >>106468467 >>106487984

>>106459564
>>106459583
>>106459587
We should've fucking banned art long, long ago. The muslims know what's up, they don't allow depictions of Allah which is why they are a strong united conservative front.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 23:37:33 No.106468137 Report

Quoted By:

>>106459432
>PAY
>MY
>FEES
>FOR
>ME

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 23:47:45 No.106468333 Report

Quoted By: >>106468538

HOW!? SJSU only charges about $3500 a semester for my industry tech major!?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 23:51:26 No.106468409 Report

Quoted By:

>>106465834
>Cal Arts students try to address this
No, they're just bitching about having to pay more than their rich dads will allow. They aren't protesting for allowing more diverse artstyles or trying to break the mold, they just want beanmouth to cost less.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 23:54:02 No.106468467 Report

Quoted By: >>106469483

>>106468058
Just think about it. Evolutionary psychologists speculate that drawfags painting on cave walls were in fact the massive autists of their time. Likely disruptive to the cave community with their vandalism. And let's think about graffiti. Graffiti is by its core vandalism. But why stop there really, if you are vandalizing a wall how is it different to vandalizing a mind with images drawn on paper or digitally? And let's not forget, /co/ is literally the most tumblr board on 4chan.
The simple truth gentlemen is that a strong nation needs to remove its so-called "artists". Incarcerate and executed for vandalism. If America is to become great again the first step should be the outlawing of art, drawings, cartoons and comics. Then, /co/ can be discerned as being illegal under the United States law and removed from the site. And the purity of 4chan will be restored.
Drawings are WRONG.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 23:56:49 No.106468531 Report

Quoted By: >>106468572

>>106459372
Why don't they just become engineers? The tuition is way lower and you're more likely to get a job that pays more.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 23:57:14 No.106468538 Report

Quoted By: >>106470396

>>106468333
Calarts got away with it because of name brand recognition and by categorizing themselves as a high specialization vocational school. You also forget that it's in L fucking A where everything is expensive as all fuck to begin with. No shit it'll be a premium to attend, but these people go in anyways because they get told this is the only place to go if they want to have a future.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 23:59:06 No.106468572 Report

Quoted By: >>106468929

>>106468531
Arts spergs are incapable of doing STEM.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 23:59:26 No.106468578 Report

Quoted By: >>106468631 >>106468670 >>106471607

>>106459510
>yale
Haven't been keeping up with the news have you? They're one of the schools under investigation for receiving bribes from rich families to get their idiot kids enrolled.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 00:01:29 No.106468615 Report

Quoted By:

>>106459458
>people with no money bad
Oh gee thanks Becky. We will send the fbi back over

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 00:02:30 No.106468631 Report

Quoted By: >>106474894

>>106468578
What's the point of money and richness and wealth if you can't bribe people with it? The government is as always putting their interference where it doesn't belong. By trying to shut down these briberies they are removing the motivation for being successful and rich. They're basically COMMUNISTS!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 00:04:54 No.106468670 Report

Quoted By:

>>106468578
So like all schools?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 00:09:33 No.106468751 Report

Quoted By: >>106475831 >>106476619 >>106476626

>>106459386
There's no such a thing as "Calarts style", this is a retared meme. Calarts teaches different styles of drawing. Tim Burton, Brad Bird, John Lasseter etc were Calarts students.
>>106461247
Pretty much everyone at Pixar is from Calarts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 00:11:46 No.106468801 Report

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>>106467250
Well yeah, Africa is a pretty underprivileged background.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 00:13:20 No.106468832 Report

Quoted By: >>106468929 >>106476661

Why can't these people just do STEM to sustain themselves and practice their art craft in their spare time? Build your portfolio online get a following going, lots of artists are doing it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 00:15:09 No.106468868 Report

Quoted By:

>>106459386
>Imagine paying that much to get worse at drawing lmao

fpbp holy shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 00:18:07 No.106468929 Report

Quoted By: >>106484936

>>106468832
Because >>106468572
If you are the kind of person that has any qualifications, any qualifications at all, you wouldn't be a sperg trying to make money with fucking doodles.
You can't eat doodles, they don't improve the industry, they don't contribute anything to society. Artsfaggots are parasites not unlike musiccunts and other bloody stupid idiots. They are nowhere near as important and worthy of their pay than the single most productive profession in America, the lawyer, whose job is to ensure that the great nation can survive against criminal parasites and communists by upholding the constitution.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 00:21:59 No.106468999 Report

Quoted By:

Imagine going to an expensive art school to draw even worse lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 00:32:01 No.106469186 Report

Quoted By: >>106480851 >>106481148

>>106459674
Yank student loans are a horrific nightmare. I would not wish them on my worst enemy. Even complete destitution and legal bankruptcy cannot stop student loan debts. Dying will not end the loans; they make you find guaranteeors so your parents can be saddled with the debts instead

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 00:37:10 No.106469292 Report

Quoted By:

>>106461224
>why the hell is no one stopping this?
>the Government is in on it.
Why do you answer your own questions?
Americucks are utterly powerless against their own government. The two parties have spent generations making sure of that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 00:44:42 No.106469446 Report

Quoted By: >>106470283

>>106467832
Rich Chinese aren't frugal. They'll blow any amount of money to get ahead.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 00:46:33 No.106469483 Report

Quoted By:

>>106468467
I hate to see what your philosophy on industrial design is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 00:48:47 No.106469530 Report

Quoted By:

>>106459372
>who even has 50,850??
the parents who put them in such a shit college

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 01:25:56 No.106470283 Report

Quoted By: >>106470349

>>106469446
They're a weird mix of lavish and stingy. The chinese in the VIP room of the casino I worked at would gamble hundreds or thousands every hand
Then they would load their bags with free bottles of water and I've seen some of them at soup kitchens getting free soup.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 01:28:44 No.106470338 Report

Quoted By:

American college is general is just a gigantic scam.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 01:29:02 No.106470342 Report

Quoted By:

>>106459509
Fact: Whites are the only race that consider "Jews" a separate race from themselves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 01:29:26 No.106470349 Report

Quoted By: >>106470423

>>106470283
I mean, hey
free water and soup
would you turn down something for free just because you could buy it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 01:31:55 No.106470396 Report

Quoted By:

>>106468538
Damn, you'd expect the school in Silicon Valley to cost an arm and aleg

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 01:32:54 No.106470423 Report

Quoted By: >>106477201

>>106470349
Well, yeah, particularly in regards to the soup. I volunteered at those soup kitchens. We didn't have an unlimited amount of soup, some people went hungry cause rich people wanted a free meal.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 01:42:58 No.106470597 Report

Quoted By:

>>106466216

What's a "CDA class"?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 01:59:31 No.106470903 Report

Quoted By: >>106471645 >>106471863 >>106471890 >>106478790

imma just leave this here

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 02:13:05 No.106471124 Report

Quoted By: >>106476441 >>106476681

>>106459458
>just let people with no academic achievement and no money in
As opposed to no academic achievement and lots of money?
It's baffling how americans are ok with corruption. And then they wonder why CalArts style is so shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 02:42:26 No.106471607 Report

Quoted By:

>>106468578
That explains rcdart

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 02:44:49 No.106471645 Report

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>>106470903
>tfw yasss style develops

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 02:45:37 No.106471655 Report

Quoted By: >>106471722

>>106466216
lol, holy shit.
are there any recent pics from inside the school?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 02:48:33 No.106471702 Report

Quoted By:

>>106459432
>a more visible commitment to diversity. Affected students pointed to the tuition increase as a threat to diversity

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 02:49:42 No.106471722 Report

Quoted By:

>>106471655
If I recall correctly, rcdart complained the dorms at Calarts smelled like piss, seems like they weren’t lying.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 02:52:29 No.106471768 Report

Quoted By:

>>106459372
>learning to doodle from a prestigious but overrated institution is a luxury
Stop the fucking presses. I mean I'm all for cheap/free education but let's be real here, making Calarts cheap is way down the line of priorities.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 02:53:07 No.106471779 Report

Quoted By:

>>106463490
except we know it happens without the schooling because people from the industry will often say they never had any schooling.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 02:57:23 No.106471863 Report

Quoted By:

>>106470903
> HOW?

(((subversion)))

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 02:58:38 No.106471890 Report

Quoted By:

>>106470903
when it comes to animation, the simpler the better

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 02:59:53 No.106471916 Report

Quoted By:

>amerilads still have no free high education
Even my ass backwards shithole manages to pull it off. Why does USA sucks so many dicks?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 03:02:53 No.106472006 Report

Quoted By: >>106477029

>>106460150
You can get high education for free in real countries if you are not retatd.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 03:36:24 No.106473130 Report

Quoted By:

>>106459432
>higher education offerings at Calarts

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 03:46:09 No.106473401 Report

Quoted By: >>106474096 >>106474236 >>106474497 >>106475735 >>106482429

Just your daily reminder that liberalism is a mental illness.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 04:04:27 No.106474096 Report

Quoted By: >>106482419

>>106473401
And your friendly reminder that the American definition of liberalism doesn't actually mean anything

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 04:08:08 No.106474236 Report

Quoted By: >>106474976

>>106473401
you mean socialism anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 04:15:04 No.106474497 Report

Quoted By: >>106475034

>>106473401
This desu.
America is overdue an absolute monarchy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 04:28:30 No.106474894 Report

Quoted By:

>>106468631
this but half ironically

like DNA tests singling out the chads of society just for being better at reproduction

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 04:30:59 No.106474976 Report

Quoted By:

>>106474236
Talking about socialism in America means talking about Hollywood, Silicon Valley, California. i.e. rich snobs doing snobbish things.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 04:32:32 No.106475034 Report

Quoted By: >>106484746

>>106474497
>The American Empress
there's no way an anime hasn't done this

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 04:35:06 No.106475131 Report

Quoted By:

When people talk about wealth not lasting past three generations, this is what they're talking about

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 04:39:23 No.106475321 Report

Quoted By: >>106475423

Why is the American education so expensive?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 04:41:22 No.106475423 Report

Quoted By: >>106476160

>>106475321
To incentivize having money, poorcunt. Have sex.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 04:46:57 No.106475735 Report

Quoted By:

>>106473401
As is conservatism.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 04:49:01 No.106475831 Report

Quoted By:

>>106468751
Pixar has a bunch of Texans from TAMU though. Unless you're talking about the more important roles like Director.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 04:54:44 No.106476057 Report

Quoted By:

>>106459828
What is the main character look like a JoJo?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 04:55:41 No.106476102 Report

Quoted By:

>>106466216
that sounds even worse than most community colleges

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 04:57:38 No.106476160 Report

Quoted By:

>>106475423
It's the other way around retard. Incentive of having more money is why it's expensive.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 05:00:35 No.106476283 Report

Quoted By:

I love it when both sides of an issue are fucking laughably wrong (though as always the whiny idiot lefties are wronger) but the actual problem is that the thing being complained about is run by crooks
and neither side's solution is going to fix that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 05:00:59 No.106476306 Report

Quoted By: >>106478293

>>106459479
What horrible examples LMAO
>Tiarawhy
was offered a job on R&M but declines, still does horsefucker porn
>Glitchedpuppet/PK
Do I even need to go into this
>Egoraptor
Was at Fox ADHD for like a year until he got sick of it and did Game Grumps
>Lauren Zuke
kicked off SJW cartoon and was caught grooming an underage child

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 05:02:44 No.106476397 Report

Quoted By:

>>106460855
Why did you post a cat reacting to a bad fart?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 05:03:52 No.106476441 Report

Quoted By: >>106476681

>>106471124
>It's baffling how americans are ok with corruption
Right? They think of Oxford and Cambridge as palaces of elitism but those ditched preference for the relatives of former students back in the 60s. For Americans it's *expected* that the relatives of former students get preferential treatment.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 05:05:30 No.106476495 Report

Quoted By:

>>106461598
Yeah but Sugar started out on two CalArts alumni projects; Adventure Time and Hotel Transylvania.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 05:07:21 No.106476549 Report

Quoted By:

>>106466790
That poor blendy bastard doesn’t even realize he’s going to have his body torn asunder and sold for parts

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 05:09:23 No.106476619 Report

Quoted By:

>>106468751
>Pretty much everyone at Pixar is from Calarts.
>a 3rd are from TAMU
>about a 3rd is varrious/non affiliated
>everyone

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 05:09:38 No.106476626 Report

Quoted By:

>>106468751
>Tim Burton, Brad Bird, John Lasseter etc were Calarts students.
You had to go back 40 years to make this point lmao

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Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 05:10:57 No.106476661 Report

Quoted By:

>>106468832
this, anyone that makes it into the industry will tell you to avoid it like the plague

doing it as a dedicated hobby on top of a career gives you the best of both worlds, you're creating your own shit instead of wageslaving away on some project you couldn't give less of a fuck about for upward to 16 hours a day

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 05:11:31 No.106476681 Report

Quoted By: >>106481982

>>106476441
>>106471124
If rich people were doing something wrong they wouldn't be rich.
America is the land of the free, anything that trespasses on the fact that wealth equals merit is unconstitutional.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 05:14:32 No.106476772 Report

Quoted By: >>106481863

>>106459408
>Your
It's "You're," you bumbling, CalArts shill. They can't teach you bastards how to draw nor how to write correctly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 05:18:10 No.106476880 Report

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>>106459372
>4.5% tuition increase
so it was basically 50k already

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Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 05:20:03 No.106476933 Report

Quoted By:

>>106459432
>Student protesters carried signs that read “You Are Nothing Without Us,”

Oh yes,

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 05:23:55 No.106477029 Report

Quoted By: >>106477094

>>106472006
No you can't because you pay for it every day of your life via taxes

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 05:25:32 No.106477083 Report

Quoted By: >>106477379

>be texan
>go to tamu
>get job offers from pixar and powerhouse
Feels good, a bunch of animators at PH didn't even go to art school.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 05:25:54 No.106477094 Report

Quoted By: >>106477297 >>106477353

>>106477029
As opposed to the US where you have to pay dozens of thousands on top of your taxes?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 05:27:49 No.106477175 Report

Quoted By: >>106484764

Money was a mistake.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 05:28:34 No.106477201 Report

Quoted By:

>>106470423
>some people went hungry cause rich people wanted a free meal.
What the fuck

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 05:31:29 No.106477297 Report

Quoted By: >>106477353

>>106477094
>implying that the tax rate is the same

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Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 05:32:41 No.106477353 Report

Quoted By: >>106477442

>>106477297
>>106477094
Can either of you translate this into english?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 05:33:13 No.106477379 Report

Quoted By:

>>106477083
and the kicker is TAMU is way cheaper and much easier to get accepted into

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 05:35:12 No.106477442 Report

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>>106477353
>average income
>not median
>doesn't account for state/local taxes or non-income taxes
hmm

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 05:37:37 No.106477547 Report

Quoted By: >>106477757

I haven't an inch of sympathy. We don't need artists now. We need engineers, chemists, and medical professionals.

It's already ludicrously expensive to get a real degree, and most actually talented artists make their way via Patreon or selling their works on the gallery market.

Fuck them. Fuck them all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 05:43:40 No.106477757 Report

Quoted By: >>106477928 >>106477963 >>106478096 >>106479192

>>106477547
Are you willing to give up all your entertainment? Never look at a drawing, read a comic, watch a TV show or movie, listen to a song, or anything else ever again?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 05:49:53 No.106477928 Report

Quoted By:

>>106477757
Yes. And remove those boards from this site.
Now is the dawn of the age of /pol/, /biz/ and /k/.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 05:51:08 No.106477963 Report

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>>106477757
it would do wonders for productivity

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 05:55:21 No.106478096 Report

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>>106477757
>He thinks I've actually watched television in the last four years.

Look at this man. Look at this man and laugh. Digital distribution killed your sacred dodos, Cletus. I get people will bitch and moan that the pretentious animation studios they love to hate on will suffer, but...fuck 'em. There's always going to be talented artists, writers, musicians, etc. Now the useless chaff gets cut away. And thank fuck for that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 05:57:03 No.106478136 Report

Quoted By: >>106491495

>>106459432
its already mostly asian and whites

theres no black people at cal arts

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 05:58:26 No.106478177 Report

Quoted By:

>>106461158
Extremely true. I quit getting an arts degree after the first semester. Everyone is a self-entitled asshole with no talent.
You don't need a degree to do art. You can learn it yourself and get commissioned if you're any good at it.
This is why I got a degree in accounting and now do art in my free time

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 06:00:06 No.106478236 Report

Quoted By: >>106478445 >>106480466

>people whine about some communism/third world boogeyman that would make everyone spend their entire lives toiling away at some job that they don't want to do
>they then turn around and say that everyone should do such and such particular job regardless of whether they want to or not, and that also no entertainment should exist so that they spend all of their time doing said job

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 06:02:15 No.106478293 Report

Quoted By:

>>106476306
>working on own show
>did official SU products and completely got away with trying to solicit child porn
>still gets voice work on shows
I’ll give you Zuke but she still proved you don’t need calarts to get a job. You just need to be sane to keep it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 06:04:29 No.106478350 Report

Quoted By:

>>106459372
>pay 50K to "connections" and be taught that your art will always be shit because of budget
So /co/, wanna know why /a/ keeps shoving their shows down your throat?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 06:09:08 No.106478445 Report

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>>106478236
"Gee mister, you sure are right about what my argument is."

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 06:24:29 No.106478776 Report

Quoted By:

>>106466216
thanks for leading me to this

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 06:25:12 No.106478790 Report

Quoted By:

>>106470903
Whatever happened to this bitch? Is she working?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 06:36:47 No.106479087 Report

Quoted By:

>>106462217
The correlation between calarts and jobs is even worse for the showrunners ... you're better off marrying a jewish. Though that suddenly makes wasting 200k$ not look so bad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 06:38:13 No.106479118 Report

Quoted By:

>>106459564
Makes sense. They draw ugly fat naked people for a living.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 06:41:15 No.106479192 Report

Quoted By: >>106479376

>>106477757
let the gooks do it, they are genetically predisposed to draw good, who needs cartoons anyway when you have anime?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 06:50:26 No.106479376 Report

Quoted By: >>106487860

>>106479192
>Japan burns itself out trying to meet America's demand for animation.
>Starts outsourcing jobs to America

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 07:57:35 No.106480466 Report

Quoted By:

>>106478236
>>they then turn around and say that everyone should do such and such particular job regardless of whether they want to or not, and that also no entertainment should exist so that they spend all of their time doing said job
Of course.
You are indebted to the nation. You do not exist without America and the elite. You work for them. You toil for them. You live by their will alone. You are not you. You are us. There is no you. Only the nation.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 08:03:39 No.106480570 Report

Quoted By:

>>106459408

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Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 08:04:11 No.106480580 Report

Quoted By:

>People only now are realizing you're not paying for an education, but for the name of the school to be on your resume to get through the automated resume sorting algorithms

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 08:08:57 No.106480637 Report

Quoted By:

>>106459386
kek fpbp indeed

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 08:14:06 No.106480684 Report

Quoted By: >>106480705

>>106459510
>defending the school
>not shitting on the Disney-led nepotism culture that made it so that such a disproportionate amount of creative freedom goes to alumni of a single fucking institution

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 08:16:24 No.106480705 Report

Quoted By: >>106480759

>>106480684
Why would anyone in their right mind shit on Disney? We're literally 5 years tops from them taking over the country, do you REALLY want to be on the wrong side of history when the camps open?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 08:22:36 No.106480759 Report

Quoted By:

>>106480705
Now you made me start picturing Jim Crow-style water fountains for Calarts students vs those at other art schools.

It's hilarious as fuck until I realized that if Disney if Disney got the power to make it come true they totally would.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 08:33:52 No.106480851 Report

Quoted By: >>106481148

>>106469186
>dying will not end the loans
Is this true? If so my mom fucked me over with 100k when she dies

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 09:16:07 No.106481148 Report

Quoted By: >>106490053

>>106480851
I'm pretty sure debt can't be passed on unless you were in some way a party to it, like being a guarantor for the loan.

>>106469186
Isn't student debt repayment income based in the US now though, like it always was in all the sane countries?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 09:25:33 No.106481197 Report

Quoted By: >>106481376

>>106459432
what do they learn? despite the fact that mega corps only make 3d shit and all 2d cartoons are outsourced to korea

how to storyboard for 3d animations? the industry doesnt require traditional techniques in practice.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 09:47:12 No.106481327 Report

Quoted By: >>106481345 >>106481349 >>106481449 >>106483226 >>106487076 >>106487549

Well you guys have finally up and done it. I've been convinced. thanks to this thread, I am no longer going to Calarts, even though I was accepted. My immediate dream is to create an animated show of quality, and I figured Calarts was my safest bet, considering its past reputation. However, with the money, the dying light of traditional media, and the emergence of new methods of networking, I'm sold that making my own way would be a better fit for myself, and would yield a more dignified result. Best case scenario now would be to grind online, and get myself in the position of pitching a show to netflix, or a at least a studio that'll give me free reign to make a high budget dumbland ripoff. Worst case scenario is I'll be a janitor making art in my single apartment for the rest of my life, which wouldn't be that bad to be honest. So now I've just gotta disappoint my parents even further. Thanks guys.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 09:49:57 No.106481345 Report

Quoted By: >>106481383 >>106481463 >>106483097 >>106484936

>>106481327
Fuck off faggot and take youre creativifuckity with you. The world needs engineers and lawyers not artists. Get a doctorate and start pulling your weight for the corporate overlords before we fucking evict you from the greatest country on Earth, the land of the free!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 09:50:29 No.106481349 Report

Quoted By: >>106481463

>>106481327
Just tell your parents you're putting off college to try and freelance/work first. That's something a parent would be proud of.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 09:56:45 No.106481376 Report

Quoted By: >>106481557

>>106481197
Do you honestly think 3D animation doesn't need storyboards?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 09:58:34 No.106481383 Report

Quoted By: >>106481434 >>106481449

>>106481345
Even engineers and lawyers need designers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 10:07:58 No.106481434 Report

Quoted By: >>106481463

>>106481383
Not ART designers, retard. Nothing functional in engineering requires creativity, only the application of technical expertise and mathematics. And lawyers certainly don't need designers of any kind.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 10:12:45 No.106481449 Report

Quoted By: >>106481478

>>106481327
There's no reason not to study, but there's no way on God's green earth you should be forking over $50k a year for it. Tuition fees are capped at £9k a year here in Bongland, and even that's pretty fucking ridiculous. Hell, you could probably go study in mainland Europe and pay even less.

>>106481383
Let him rot. Anyone posting on a COMICS AND CARTOONS board that artists are a waste of space is clearly trolling.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 10:16:44 No.106481463 Report

Quoted By: >>106481772

>>106481345
It's a good thing I don't live there anyway, burgerfaggot. Plus the economy needs people to do low income jobs to function, so a janitor is still someone we need, or a 'corporate weight puller' as you say. (that is until the robots.)

>>106481349
You're right, and I was going to tell them that anyway. I just wanted to make the text dump to end on a little joke.

>>106481434
Drafting the blueprints and inventing new functional items is still creativity. Even deciding on how the mathematics, logistics, and how all that other shit works, counts as creativity.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 10:17:40 No.106481469 Report

Quoted By: >>106481498

>going to an animation school
Idiot move. We live in an age of crowd funding and digital distribution. If you have talent you start a patreon or whatever, make your shit and let money roll in. If your shit is good enough the industry will beat a path to your door. It's not surprising that morons doing it the traditional way are salty, sitting outside disneyland with their begging bowls in hand. While some guy with no education is making 10k a month making crappy flash animations.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 10:19:30 No.106481478 Report

Quoted By:

>>106481449
I'll probably go to a more minor college for a bit, and self teach the shit out of myself afterward. But yeah, that shit would've been BRUTAL. I'm not even quite middle class.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 10:24:22 No.106481498 Report

Quoted By: >>106481523 >>106481576 >>106492831

>>106481469
You can't learn everything from books and youtube tutorials, especially with 3D where the software changes every fucking year and all the books immediately go out of date. At good colleges, tutors have industry experience and keep themselves up to date with the software. The whole idea of education is to learn and improve and benefit from your tutors' experience, theirs and the school's industry connections and to work on collaborative projects to briefs with other people the way it actually works in industry. That's very fucking difficult to do sat alone in your basement.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 10:28:00 No.106481523 Report

Quoted By:

>>106481498
What if you send out emails to those with experience to give you advice on your situation & portfolio?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 10:33:38 No.106481550 Report

Quoted By: >>106481582 >>106481602

youre not even going to make that amount per annual lmao why do they think creative arts is worth that price? I keep wishing I chose something else, the industry blows ass.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 10:35:05 No.106481557 Report

Quoted By: >>106481586

>>106481376
im saying that
storyboarding doesnt require high skills of drawing or filming. a bunch of japanese web drawfags are just doing it well without learning it in school.

i mean today in the west traditional techniques are useless in animations. why do they learn it? if only storyboarding matters, they dont really need to go to calarts to learn "animation"

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 10:35:30 No.106481561 Report

Quoted By:

>>106460094
doesnt include taxes and living expenses. It's a shit lifestyle and fuck social media for promoting it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 10:38:55 No.106481575 Report

Quoted By:

>>106460241
The sad truth is even this is becoming less common as America either outsources or automates everything. Even the moneyed elite or genuinely talented people making connections don't matter if no industries even exist anymore. Which is where things are going. U.S. is hollowed out except for low paid service sector jobs and a few people at the very top who were in long ago doing the outsourcing and automating. One reason even the very wealthy but not ultra-billionaires are panicking and bribing people even more if they have kids. The party is ending. While things are good in a few pockets right now (tech, health care) as everything else goes to be honest I don't see even those sticking around in the long run. I have no idea what will happen. Political instability and people trying to escape to other countries I guess.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 10:38:56 No.106481576 Report

Quoted By: >>106481949

>>106481498
Connections and education mean fuck all if there's no job at the end of it. We're not living in Star Trek, the goal of education is not the joy of learning, the goal of education is to get a fucking job. Basement grognard has a job, calarts graduates have an a4 sheet of toilet paper.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 10:40:22 No.106481582 Report

Quoted By: >>106481586 >>106481645

>>106481550
Wrong, it absolutely does. You need to know a lot in order to do things fast for other areas of the industry that have been cut or that executives aren't willing to pay for.
Backgrounds, layout and even character designs are more often than not established by storyboarders, not to mention needing to know cinematic language. With the rise of the digital workflow it has also pushed boarders to work more for less.
It's shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 10:41:25 No.106481586 Report

Quoted By:

>>106481582
meant for >>106481557

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 10:44:31 No.106481602 Report

Quoted By:

>>106481550
Over 99 times out of 100, creative arts is only worth doing at all for your own personal enjoyment, not something that will make money. If you want a job there's certain kinds of engineering and being a doctor or a nurse. That's pretty much it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 10:51:39 No.106481645 Report

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>>106481582
no. its more of a technique of film. have you ever seen ekontes of tomino or oshii. both fucking suck at drawing, they simply cant draw, but can do it because of the knowledge of film techniques. also both didnt learn animation in school.

or what cartoons are doing "storyboard" actually? all of american cartoons move like shit, they are far from traditional films they are fucking stiff as shit. or a rip off of anime e-kontes, which nobody can learn in any american school.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 10:59:41 No.106481687 Report

Quoted By:

>>106459587
But I go to brown and that’s actually bullshit. Yale is way further down the liberal rabbit hole.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 11:17:13 No.106481772 Report

Quoted By: >>106481800 >>106486874

>>106481463
>Plus the economy needs people to do low income jobs to function, so a janitor is still someone we need
I used to think this way too and trade schools are the way of the future, etc. until I learned that shifting everything over to service sector is actually an existential threat because these jobs (and even health care jobs or lawyer jobs), unlike manufacturing, for example, don't bring money into the country. They just move money around. For a while, America has been saved by having vested brands, copyright etc. and making innovative shit then outsourcing everything else worked.
But as you might have noticed, other countries are now capable of either developing that shit on their own or, if you want to be cynical about it, outright stealing or reverse engineering shit. The rest of the world doesn't give a shit about "respecting" some intellectual copyright like America didn't give a shit about using their kids as slave labor, they just want the shit. And those other people would rather work for their own countrymen at the very top, not Americans. So what is America going to do when its shit gets copied by other countries' companies and produced wholly outside of its borders, start lobbing nukes around? It could, but probably not.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 11:21:36 No.106481800 Report

Quoted By: >>106481869

>>106481772
This isn't even mentioning the incoming return of mercenaries as the military status quo. Or the fact that we've calculated that we literally can't keep paying social security anymore with the incoming recession.

America's going to turn into a really ugly place in the next couple of decades.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 11:27:40 No.106481841 Report

Quoted By:

>>106465830
And Ottawa.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 11:28:33 No.106481846 Report

Quoted By:

>>106465791
honestly, this. kids for the most part don't get that you have to make a lot of sacrifices and pay your dues to get into your chosen profession, unless your chosen profession is mcdonalds or some shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 11:31:27 No.106481863 Report

Quoted By:

>>106476772
>I can't come up with anything better than correcting your grammar to feel smart

Have sex.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 11:32:29 No.106481869 Report

Quoted By:

>>106481800
Pretty much. I think even the richest know that if (or probably when) things go down, a lot of them probably aren't going to make it to their doomsday bunkers alive. It's a ticking time bomb.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 11:39:57 No.106481921 Report

Quoted By:

>>106465791
fuck off with that toxic bullshit, cartoons should be valued differently. Being an artists or in the creative field is still a craft, it's not something that a joe blo can do justice.
Pick up a pencil and draw a picture, then draw that same picture over 200 times with slight changes.
Hard? Yes.
People like you make this fucking skill valueless because you're greedy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 11:43:37 No.106481949 Report

Quoted By:

>>106481576
>the goal of education is not the joy of learning, the goal of education is to get a fucking job
I think it's both. If you actually get your shit together while at college you'll come out both better at what you do AND employed. Point was made regarding higher education in general, not exclusively in regards to CalArts, which I think is both stupidly expensive and highly overrated.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 11:48:28 No.106481982 Report

Quoted By:

>>106476681
>unconstitutional
The white mans ghost dance.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 12:02:58 No.106482069 Report

Quoted By:

>>106462638
You're going to be waiting a while.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 12:18:17 No.106482179 Report

Quoted By:

>>106460855
God I wish that was me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 12:29:33 No.106482245 Report

Quoted By: >>106483038 >>106489250

>>106459372
What's with all the stemfags, weebs, and lawfags itt?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 12:51:33 No.106482385 Report

Quoted By:

>>106461189
What really? Are there pics/scans of this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 12:55:58 No.106482419 Report

Quoted By:

>>106474096
Doesn't it mean libertarian capitalism + globalism under a veener of fake progressiveness?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 12:57:37 No.106482429 Report

Quoted By:

>>106473401
crazy conservatives and liberal lunatics

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 12:58:43 No.106482439 Report

Quoted By: >>106488282 >>106490412

Say, what does /co/ think of CDA?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 13:41:26 No.106482749 Report

Quoted By: >>106482812

Don't americans have some fucked up college fees in general? Like, what's the yearly cost for a respected/popular university on average? Are there programs to aid students that don't come from rich families?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 13:49:47 No.106482812 Report

Quoted By: >>106482931 >>106483177

>>106482749
Respected unis can cost millions to go to and are specifically for the privileged elite. Brown, Princeton, Yale, Harvard, those are for the blue bloods of the world.
>are there programs?
Yes but it's for shockingly low amounts of the population and minority charity cases.
Fees for popular schools that are for the plebeians of the middle class is something like 1 mill total, and you'll spend decades paying it off.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 14:06:10 No.106482931 Report

Quoted By:

>>106482812
That's kinda sad to hear. Like, i only paid something like 364€ for this year's subscription, and the university in question is considered one of the best in the country didactics-wise

Is there no movement of sorts to change such economic roadblocks? Sounds like the type of thing politicians would latch onto to get votes and stuff

guy

guy Sun 17 Mar 2019 14:06:50 No.106482941 Report

Quoted By:

calarts always wasn't a very practical idea, unless you had money or didn't mind going into debt to maybe be a storyboarder

>>106459386

you idiots don't even know what student work at calarts looks like, you look at a couple images and, most importantly, rcdart and think that means everything

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 14:16:02 No.106483038 Report

Quoted By:

>>106482245
They mad mad mad cuz they bad bad bad

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 14:21:39 No.106483097 Report

Quoted By:

>>106481345
> lawyers

now that`s an even more useless job. You`re being paid to bullshit your way through stupid bureaucracy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 14:31:22 No.106483177 Report

Quoted By:

>>106482812
>Fees for popular schools that are for the plebeians of the middle class is something like 1 mill total
I suspected that to be bullshit, and one quick google confirmed my suspicions.
>According to a 2018 publication by the U.S. Department of Education, as of the 2015-16 academic year, the annual price for undergraduate tuition including fees, room, and board was estimated to be $16,757 at public institutions and $43,065 for private institutions.
That's nowhere near a million for the average four-year degree, even at the upper end of the scale. Still expensive, but not as cripplingly as you make out.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 14:36:20 No.106483226 Report

Quoted By: >>106483657

>>106481327
you'll be fine if you cultivate your networking and social skills on top of your art. There's just as many resources online for learning the former two as there are for art itself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 14:36:49 No.106483229 Report

Quoted By: >>106483379

>>106459479
Sexual Lobster also got a paid gig.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 14:50:38 No.106483379 Report

Quoted By: >>106483460

>>106483229
Really, where at? I was wondering why his output dropped to almost nada.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 14:57:41 No.106483460 Report

Quoted By: >>106483497

>>106483379
According to his latest video, he's been working on some kid show in Australia called Bluey, for the ABC (not the American ABC, you yanks).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0-1uFncU-4

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 14:57:42 No.106483461 Report

Quoted By: >>106483726

>>106459564
What about Hitler?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 14:59:48 No.106483497 Report

Quoted By:

>>106483460
Oh im glad to hear he got something major.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 15:13:30 No.106483657 Report

Quoted By:

This thread is making me feel weird, like a loved one encouraging me. I've always had ideas and I love using creative outlets. You guys are making me think I have a realistic chance to make something of my hobby if I roll up my sleeves and work hard.

>>106483226

Not him but I'd love to look up said resources about social skills and networking.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 15:19:03 No.106483726 Report

Quoted By: >>106483947 >>106488390

>>106483461
>Art Student that scapegoated a group of people for all his problems based on perceived privileges

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 15:38:54 No.106483947 Report

Quoted By: >>106484007

>>106483726
On the other hand, you could take away the lesson that simply humoring someone's shitty art could prevent fifty million deaths.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 15:45:08 No.106484007 Report

Quoted By:

>>106483947
If only somebody had the balls to protest Calarts with "Hitler couldn't afford Art School either" in Cali lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 16:24:46 No.106484499 Report

Quoted By: >>106484785

>went to a technical college for animation degree
>interned for Sony Animation
>now works at Disney
I don't get why people don't see technical or community colleges as a viable option

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 16:42:08 No.106484746 Report

Quoted By:

>>106475034
Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex had the American Empire in a few episodes. America split into 3 after WW4 iirc

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 16:43:40 No.106484764 Report

Quoted By:

>>106477175
shh...

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 16:45:08 No.106484785 Report

Quoted By:

>>106484499
Cause high school councelors and parents all have it in their minds to yell at kids that if they dont go to a "good" college they will fail at life and work at mcdonalds.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 16:58:26 No.106484925 Report

Quoted By: >>106486578

>>106464945
The creator of that shitty thundercats show didn’t go to CalArts. You just undermined your own fucking point

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 16:59:30 No.106484936 Report

Quoted By: >>106487938

>>106481345
>>106468929
I can't tell if you're trolling or if you seriously type like this,

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 17:00:51 No.106484954 Report

Quoted By:

>>106459432
suda probably didnt learn anything about games in school lol
he has a strange profile.

the west lacks such a talent sadly. fresh and weird stuff never come from academia.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 17:20:34 No.106485202 Report

Quoted By:

>>106459372
>"Stop oppressing students"
These people are a joke. I don't like calarts,but have they ever thought for a minute that they could just not attend the place?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 17:22:20 No.106485231 Report

Quoted By: >>106488864

>>106459372
Nobody on /co/ has anykind of education at all or friends, so how would they know about any of this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 17:23:36 No.106485246 Report

Quoted By:

>>106459408
>paying money to beg for a job
Learn to code

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 17:37:43 No.106485453 Report

Quoted By: >>106487804

Have these people considered going to a smaller school, and then going to a smaller employer that pays less, but is more likely to hire, rather than have unrealistic goals, and then end up at starbucks?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 18:47:19 No.106486578 Report

Quoted By:

>>106484925
You dont have to have gone to CalArts to draw in the CalArts style. The same way you don't have to be Japanese to draw Anime or French to draw ligne claire. You faggot

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 19:03:41 No.106486874 Report

Quoted By:

>>106481772
No shit other countries want new technologies, it's called humanity and free trade nigger. If other developing countries with low skilled workers stop manufacturing shit for us, prices for everything will fucking skyrocket. Obviously countries like China want shit for themselves, but at the moment, America is still a huge buyer. There's no reason to be all purist and say we need everything to be made in america, even though that'll only hurt the consumer.
And of course money primarily just moves around in a country, with the exception of bank loans and resources, that's how an ideal and relatively isolated country/economy in this current day and age fucking functions. We just want goods and services from countries that can provide them that we don't already have, or are unwilling to produce by exploiting a legion of low iq workers. And it's probably for the best that the population itself isn't an actual shithole, but you may beg to differ, so I don't fucking know.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 19:14:46 No.106487076 Report

Quoted By: >>106490880

>>106481327
you should apply to goeblins mate

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 19:41:16 No.106487549 Report

Quoted By:

>>106481327
As an animator who works online: you're making the right choice. The debt from calarts you'll never pay off with the salary in USA (all the animation jobs are in Canada, USA in california are all animatic/storyboard/design shit).

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 19:52:03 No.106487751 Report

Quoted By: >>106488434 >>106491408

Even hirsch is shitting on calarts

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 19:55:13 No.106487804 Report

Quoted By: >>106487888

>>106485453
Gotta dream big if you wanna' get paid big. It's what my teachers told me in art school.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 19:58:18 No.106487860 Report

Quoted By:

>>106479376
pottery

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 19:58:48 No.106487870 Report

Quoted By:

>>106459372
"Notable artists in the animation industry who have attended Calarts include Brad Bird, John Lasseter, Andrew Stanton, Pete Docter, Glen Keane, Genndy Tartakovsky, Mark Andrews, Craig McCracken, Tim Burton, Peter Chung, Peter Sohn, Henry Selick, Alex Hirsch, Pete Browngardt, Tom McGrath, Chris Buck, Brenda Chapman, Jorge Gutierrez, Pen Ward, Conrad Vernon, Gary Trousdale, John Musker, J. G. Quintel, Thurop Van Orman, Ralph Eggleston, Stephen Hillenburg, Chris Sanders, Butch Hartman, and Mark Osborne, to name a few."
>"just to name a few"
fuck this, animations a rigged game

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 19:59:27 No.106487888 Report

Quoted By:

>>106487804
What about being paid decent, with a decent chance of actually achieving said goal? As opposed to dreaming big and falling hard?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 20:00:41 No.106487906 Report

Quoted By: >>106491282

You'll make more money doing animated porn whether 2d/3d/sfm than every single animator in california/canada, for real. Furthermore I know many animators who work in the industry who animate porn on the side to pay the bills and not be welfare level.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 20:01:40 No.106487917 Report

Quoted By: >>106489549 >>106489952

>>106459432
The hilarious thing is, the government these idiots love so much is exactly why colleges are so expensive.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 20:02:35 No.106487938 Report

Quoted By:

>>106484936
He's a pissed off artist who didn't make it. Might've been one of those types who yells at the world and aggressively convinced himself to change careers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 20:03:28 No.106487957 Report

Quoted By:

>>106459500
They live in a sheltered bubble. They don't know what real oppression is and they've been brainwashed by the universities.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 20:05:05 No.106487984 Report

Quoted By:

>>106468058
People in Muslim countries consume and make art (IE, calligraphy, among other things), that's not unique to any one section of humanity. There's just a stipulation in Sunni and certain Shia sects that it's in bad taste to portray God in art as having a physical form. I'm not saying the religious conservatives who insist on maintaining that tradition are right, but it's much more complex than just "lol they dont believe in art." As it turns out, making nebulous generalizations about a huge demographic of people makes you sound like a myopic idiot because nothing in life is that simple. Iran is a super conservative country but people put Mohammad's face on postcards.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 20:05:46 No.106487992 Report

Quoted By:

>>106462709
>using there real name
based

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 20:08:42 No.106488054 Report

Quoted By:

>>106461158
It's not exclusive to art. My computer engineering friend says the vast majority of people in all his STEM classes have been dipshits who are just waiting it out not because they're passionate about computer engineering but because they want a good job right out of the gate. I've noticed a similar attitude with people studying psychology and business. College education in general elicits a mercenary attitude in people.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 20:22:00 No.106488282 Report

Quoted By:

>>106482439
Of what?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 20:28:33 No.106488390 Report

Quoted By:

>>106483726
>a group (singular)
>of people
Neither of those statements is true and the fact that you believe that sickens me to no end. Read a book nigger.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 20:30:14 No.106488422 Report

Quoted By: >>106489220

There's not enough room left in my heart for CalArts hate. Like, I get that this style of animation has been in vogue for the past decade and that it's gotten a little played-out, but this is not something I'm going to lose sleep over. Styles come and go. When a popular artistic trend reaches a certain level of cultural saturation, a desire grows for something new, whereupon a novel new trend emerges and gradually supplants the previous one. You're all pulling your hair out over a phenomenon that is not new in any way. I'll bet even money that in twenty-some years, people will still be bemoaning the current state of animation only they'll be crying about the halcyon days of the 2010's. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 20:31:08 No.106488434 Report

Quoted By:

>>106487751
hey cocaine aint cheap kids

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 20:32:56 No.106488466 Report

Quoted By:

>>106459372
dont got to art school. it aint worth it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 20:53:32 No.106488864 Report

Quoted By: >>106489051

>>106485231
Unironically this desu.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 20:54:34 No.106488882 Report

Quoted By:

>>106459432
>literally GIBS ME DAT

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 21:03:02 No.106489051 Report

Quoted By: >>106489477

>>106488864
I regularly browse and post on /co/, and I am currently in college, am I an outlier or something?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 21:12:40 No.106489220 Report

Quoted By:

>>106488422
The 10s will probably be as well-regarded as the 60s and 70s. Some weird nostalgia here and there but overall acknowledged as cheap crap even by people who like it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 21:13:49 No.106489250 Report

Quoted By:

>>106482245
The upper class has convinced the workers to fight against each other rather than unite against them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 21:16:36 No.106489298 Report

Quoted By:

>>106459432
This reeks of “fuck how do we get pity points? I KNOW MAKE IT ABOUT DIVERSITY HAHA THEY WILL HAVE TO LISTEN TO US THEN!!!!” lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 21:26:33 No.106489472 Report

Quoted By:

>>106459408
That would've been valuable pre-internet.
Nowadays it's a free ball.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 21:26:44 No.106489477 Report

Quoted By:

>>106489051
Well technically I'm also studying on a higher education institute; I just have never stepped foot in said institute. You're not special.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 21:30:13 No.106489549 Report

Quoted By:

>>106487917
You realize that liberals also think they’re fighting against the government right? Both sides are so fucking delusional

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 21:49:56 No.106489952 Report

Quoted By:

>>106487917
They're expensive because rich people want to be richer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 21:55:03 No.106490053 Report

Quoted By:

>>106481148
They'll go after the moms estate to pay back the debt

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 22:12:22 No.106490412 Report

Quoted By: >>106494059

>>106482439
You'd get some valuable insight from CDA courses if you have zero connections or info on the industry. But it's not going to land you work, like every other art school shilling itself, if that's what you're asking.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 22:38:13 No.106490880 Report

Quoted By: >>106491424

>>106487076
You have to be under a certain age and be a French citizen

There's an exchange program but it's only for...CalArts students.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 22:43:52 No.106490990 Report

Quoted By:

>>106459408
>he thinks college is about 'networking'

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 22:57:47 No.106491282 Report

Quoted By:

>>106487906
Just imagine if Cakeinferno didn't have to outsource his rendering to volunteers and made literally anything other than vore.
He's the only native 4k SFM porn artist I'm aware of.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 23:00:28 No.106491329 Report

Quoted By:

You have to be mentally ill to want be an animator in this day and age

The whole industry is fucked worldwide

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 23:02:35 No.106491368 Report

Quoted By: >>106491436 >>106491491 >>106491547 >>106491747

>American education/tuition system

What kind of gangsters run your institutions?

Why are your tuitions so high, when you keep slipping down in terms of literacy?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 23:04:45 No.106491408 Report

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>>106487751
BAD GO- oh wait Alex is Jewish too

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Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 23:05:29 No.106491424 Report

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>>106490880
>There's an exchange program but it's only for...CalArts students.

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Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 23:06:11 No.106491436 Report

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>>106491368

We're in a race right now to see which one hits bottom first. Our prison system or our educational system.

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Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 23:08:45 No.106491491 Report

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>>106491368
The government got involved in tuition, but not in the useful way (making it free and subsidizing the cost) but in the bad way (guaranteeing loans and making it more expensive for students).

Fortunately a lot of state politicians are beginning to tell the federal government to cut the shit. Where I live, citizens have a right two a free Associate's Degree if they graduated high school in my state. That's the two-year degree. And the state's public universities must accept that associate's degree if you transfer for a full degree. That means, if you graduate from high school in my state, you get a 2-year degree for free (if you choose) and guaranteed admission to finish the last 2 years of your 4-year degree. If you commute, you're looking at $16k tuition total for those two years, which isn't too bad.

But coastfriends like going to posh private universities because they want to "make it" and those are unhindered by local college affordance measures.

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Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 23:09:01 No.106491495 Report

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>>106478136
only one I can think of is the guy that made the proud family

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Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 23:10:01 No.106491518 Report

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>>106491491
>a right two
a right to lol

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Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 23:11:28 No.106491547 Report

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>>106491368
>Why are your tuitions so high, when you keep slipping down in terms of literacy?
Because if colleges actually got better then they wouldn't need government grants.

Instead they do a bunch of useless shit and expand bureaucracy.same as anything else.

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Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2019 23:21:24 No.106491747 Report

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>>106491368
>What kind of gangsters run your institutions?
Capitalists

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Anonymous Mon 18 Mar 2019 00:16:10 No.106492831 Report

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>>106481498
>At good colleges, tutors have industry experience and keep themselves up to date with the software

This is college brainwashing propaganda

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Anonymous Mon 18 Mar 2019 00:17:44 No.106492881 Report

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>>106460138
Did you just call my girlfriend a cow?

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Anonymous Mon 18 Mar 2019 01:19:24 No.106494059 Report

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>>106490412
Debatable, I've worked with people who have no other education on their resumes but they had strong portfolios so

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Anonymous Mon 18 Mar 2019 01:55:35 No.106494683 Report

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>>106491491
>The government got involved in tuition, but not in the useful way (making it free and subsidizing the cost) but in the bad way (guaranteeing loans and making it more expensive for students).
Haha holy shit.
America might be literally one of the only two countries in the world where the government is literally only there to expedite all wealth travelling upstream. That's hilarious.

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Anonymous Mon 18 Mar 2019 02:01:00 No.106494772 Report

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>>106491747
>What kind of gangsters run your institutions?
>Capitalists
It wasn't capitalism that fucked our tuitions, it was government intervention aka socialism, the opposite of the free market capitalists wants, that fucked us.

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Anonymous Mon 18 Mar 2019 02:02:18 No.106494802 Report

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>>106459432
The entirety of California should be ejected from the Union.

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Anonymous Mon 18 Mar 2019 02:37:46 No.106495251 Report

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Do you guys have any good tutorials to learn the calarts style for nothing?

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Anonymous Mon 18 Mar 2019 02:50:45 No.106495444 Report

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>>106495251
>Draw a big circle with a curve at the top
>Draw a big bean sideways with big lines drawn on it
>Make some dark circles with another circle for eyes
>Put in some bushy eyebrows
>Make the body kind of pudgy with hand son hips
and voila, CalArts style for free instead of $50,000

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