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Regarding talent

Anonymous Wed 23 Mar 15:53:30 2022 No.14328529 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>14328542 >>14328548 >>14328617 >>14328623 >>14333222

Honest question ,how much of math is natural talent? Can i just WOOOOOORK hard and become a fields medalist? Or does it need something more? How much can an average joe be limited by his natural humane limits in math ,what is his maximum possible potential

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Anonymous Wed 23 Mar 2022 15:59:40 No.14328542 Report

Quoted By: >>14328552 >>14328611 >>14333203 >>14333503

>>14328529
for a true 100 IQ midwit, they can pass calc 1 by working really, really hard. it is absolutely delusional that anyone can become a fields medalist with just hard work. you need to be a 1 in 100k talent and work as hard as possible or a 1 in 10mil talent with a good work ethic.

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Anonymous Wed 23 Mar 2022 16:00:44 No.14328548 Report

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>>14328529
>Can i just WOOOOOORK hard and become a fields medalist?
you can work hard to becoming a fields medalist the same way you can work hard to become an NBA or NFL player. If you don't have the genes for it, working hard alone won't get you there. If you do have the genes but don't work hard and practice, you'll just flame out.

>How much can an average joe be limited by his natural humane limits in math ,what is his maximum possible potential
Probably a shitty college professor.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Mar 2022 16:02:00 No.14328552 Report

Quoted By: >>14328555 >>14328581 >>14330734

>>14328542
Thank you for the clarification. I needed this truth bomb
How to know if i am capable and talented? I am a 17 yo pajeet from pajeetland and i absolutely got buttraped in india's national math olymp program (INMO)when i was 14-15. So i am definitely not a high iq genius. How do i know where i stand

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Anonymous Wed 23 Mar 2022 16:03:02 No.14328555 Report

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>>14328548
Thanks for the truth bombs. I needed them.
Kindly answer this question
>>14328552

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Mar 2022 16:18:12 No.14328581 Report

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>>14328552
Just put your honest best effort into studying something you enjoy and see how quickly it goes along. I'm shit at math but I don't need to worry about money so I can afford to spend time learning. Most people need to get their live moving quickly

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Anonymous Wed 23 Mar 2022 16:20:32 No.14328588 Report

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>>14328581
Yeah , this is what i was planning to do. Just put honest effort and hope for satisfaction in life.
Thanks fren

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Mar 2022 16:32:38 No.14328611 Report

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>>14328542

Talent isn't the most important thing for winning the Fields medal.

The most important thing is picking the right topic and being able to come up with the right approach.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Mar 2022 16:34:46 No.14328617 Report

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>>14328529
>how much of math is natural talent
pretty much anyone can get a BA in math and most of those people can get a phd or masters. getting good at math is putting in effort. people think they will never be good at math because schools (specifically american) suck at teaching it
>can i be le isaac newton 2.0
now, if you want to change the field of math/science, yes you have to be different in some way from the thousands of other people trying to change the field, yes. it's probably something that's just in you. if you don't think you'll be able to enjoy math without becoming some big celebrity then you have an internal issue with your pride or something.
>what is my limit as my effort approaches infinity
depends on what you want to do, where you live, etc. you're overthinking everything. stop trying to be "optimal"

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Anonymous Wed 23 Mar 2022 16:37:13 No.14328623 Report

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>>14328529
if you spend the same hours as math as you do on 4chan, maybe you get it

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Mar 2022 16:39:30 No.14328631 Report

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>>14328623
I spend more time on math than on 4chan anon

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Anonymous Wed 23 Mar 2022 16:39:37 No.14328632 Report

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This comes up a lot and it's still unclear to me how well you can do if you just start working hard when you are very young. But the fact that there are no programs for kids churning out kid geniuses makes me skeptical.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Mar 2022 16:41:24 No.14328641 Report

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>>14328631
no you not

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Anonymous Wed 23 Mar 2022 16:42:13 No.14328643 Report

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>>14328641
Yes i do anon. I do 12 hour math and 2 hour 4chan everyday

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Anonymous Wed 23 Mar 2022 17:02:37 No.14328707 Report

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>>14328643
korean 9yo schoolgirl do 16hour differential equation, 2 hour beatings

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Anonymous Thu 24 Mar 2022 08:53:52 No.14330675 Report

Quoted By: >>14330681 >>14331085 >>14331513

If you want to win a Fields Medal, you should not only be talented, but do your PhD under a famous mathematician who has a track record of producing successful students.

Just read this article about how Fields Medalists come in "families":

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/fields-medals-are-concentrated-in-mathematical-families/

If you also read Cedric Villani's autobiography, you will see that the world of elite mathematics is indeed small. Villani was even able to correctly guess who was on the review committee for his Annals of Mathematics paper, and even who was on his Fields Medal committee.

The elite mathematicians at the top are the people who you need to impress if you want to win a Fields Medal, and that comes with not only been good at math, but having connections.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Mar 2022 08:58:15 No.14330681 Report

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>>14330675
Doing your PhD under a famous mathematician is not sufficient. There are many famous mathematicians who produce trash students.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Mar 2022 09:21:19 No.14330734 Report

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>>14328552
ab kya kar raha hai bhai ?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Mar 2022 10:53:22 No.14330892 Report

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>>14330734
I am doing PhD math.

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Anonymous Thu 24 Mar 2022 12:19:36 No.14331085 Report

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>>14330675
>smartest man in the world makes an educated guess

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Anonymous Thu 24 Mar 2022 15:05:57 No.14331465 Report

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Bumping. I need validation for my potential too. My score from RPM is 122 while mensa norway 115 and with mensa denmark 125. These are just online tests but it tells something, at the very least. I'm planning to study engineering in college. Should I just opt out for accountancy instead?

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Anonymous Thu 24 Mar 2022 15:22:18 No.14331513 Report

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>>14330675
is this why i see schizos on here constantly claiming they have proofs for millenium problems, but never getting credit for it? is it just because of no connections?

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Anonymous Thu 24 Mar 2022 16:53:20 No.14331748 Report

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>>14331513
They're probably delusional and their proof is probably wrong. And they probably don't have any connections either.

No one would take Ramanujan seriously if it wasn't for Hardy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Mar 2022 00:18:01 No.14333203 Report

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>>14328542
X to doubt, calc isn't that hard people just hold themselves back psychologically

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Mar 2022 00:25:37 No.14333222 Report

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>>14328529
You can't even write properly, so it's safe to assume it's nothing for you to worry about.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Mar 2022 00:31:17 No.14333239 Report

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I don’t understand why you asked about talent and put an Asian in when clearly they only good to be technician monkeys

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Anonymous Fri 25 Mar 2022 02:25:38 No.14333503 Report

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>>14328542
if you think you need a 100 iq to get through calc u have a 100 iq

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Mar 2022 02:26:49 No.14333508 Report

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>>14328548
>le genetics

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Anonymous Fri 25 Mar 2022 02:28:11 No.14333510 Report

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Study at least 2 hours a day and find out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Mar 2022 02:28:13 No.14333511 Report

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>>14328617
good answer

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Anonymous Fri 25 Mar 2022 02:29:33 No.14333518 Report

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>>14333203
facts

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