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Examples of good use of 3D dolls

Anonymous Mon 27 Dec 16:59:04 2021 No.5810885 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>5811090 >>5811107 >>5811108 >>5811118 >>5811187 >>5814818 >>5815281 >>5815903 >>5821000 >>5822600 >>5826339 >>5827493 >>5827968 >>5827978 >>5828038 >>5835959

Do you have any good examples of artists who use 3D models (especially posing dolls) that don't look like shit? I want to learn how to use this tool correctly and want some examples of good approach as an inspiration.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Dec 2021 19:02:47 No.5811090 Report

Quoted By: >>5811111 >>5814866

>>5810885
Gantz and Prison School

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Anonymous Mon 27 Dec 2021 19:13:38 No.5811107 Report

Quoted By: >>5811138 >>5811178 >>5811187 >>5815479 >>5815758

>>5810885
https://twitter.com/kairunoburogu

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Anonymous Mon 27 Dec 2021 19:13:44 No.5811108 Report

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>>5810885
every asian mangaka use 3d models and filters. dont delude yourself

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Anonymous Mon 27 Dec 2021 19:16:39 No.5811111 Report

Quoted By: >>5811114 >>5812355 >>5822064

>>5811090
Based. God this artist's women are so good. Too bad Prison School's ending was total dogshit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Dec 2021 19:17:19 No.5811114 Report

Quoted By: >>5811116

>>5811111
what is wrong with your fingers

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Dec 2021 19:17:48 No.5811116 Report

Quoted By: >>5811124 >>5813010

>>5811114
Ah if you're talking about my nails, I got a chewing habit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Dec 2021 19:18:13 No.5811118 Report

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>>5810885
If it's done well then it's impossible to tell they did it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Dec 2021 19:19:19 No.5811124 Report

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>>5811116
i have the same problem.
Stop drinking more than two coffees a day.

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Anonymous Mon 27 Dec 2021 19:20:25 No.5811128 Report

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>>5811124
I'm drinking coffee as I typed this lmao.

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Anonymous Mon 27 Dec 2021 19:23:15 No.5811134 Report

Quoted By: >>5811143 >>5812083

>>5811128
At least stop drinking those diabetes bombs.
Start drinking powder/insta coffee.
Try to get a distaste for coffee if you can.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Dec 2021 19:25:08 No.5811138 Report

Quoted By: >>5811145

>>5811107
Why is there a fish in her bed?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Dec 2021 19:26:52 No.5811143 Report

Quoted By: >>5811151 >>5813014

>>5811134
Yeah my doctor warned me that I'm getting higher than normal cholesterol and it's 100% from the lattes I'm chugging everyday. Will become diabetes if I don't stop. Thanks for reminding me. Just threw it down the drain. Though I think I should clean the can and keep it as an art reference.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Dec 2021 19:27:26 No.5811145 Report

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>>5811138
She is sleeping with the fishes, duh

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Dec 2021 19:30:04 No.5811151 Report

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>>5811143
You're very welcome, Anon-kun.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Dec 2021 19:43:24 No.5811178 Report

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>>5811107
Proof?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Dec 2021 19:46:58 No.5811187 Report

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>>5810885
>I want to learn how to use this tool correctly
Do you think the ones that looks good just type "Posing doll" on google and run with that?
The most efficient and pro-level 3d use, is paying someone to model a couple of 3d dolls to your specific style/interest, and then pay someone else to rig it extensibly and use that on your 3d software of preference
Running with stock shit you found on internet, or "posing doll specific software" like magic doll, is not going to get you to this level
>>5811107

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Anonymous Tue 28 Dec 2021 04:05:46 No.5812077 Report

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>caring about “”””””””””””cheating””””””””””
NGMI

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Dec 2021 04:08:06 No.5812083 Report

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>>5811134
powder coffee puts me to sleep

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Dec 2021 04:56:18 No.5812170 Report

Quoted By: >>5812177 >>5813026 >>5814812 >>5814830

I relied heavily on 3d models in Poser for several months. I never outright traced them, but I definitely swiped them for poses, proportions, placement of facial features, etc.
I made sure to construct on top of the model, practicing anatomy and gesture, instead of just contour tracing the model.
As I was doing it I (rightly) felt like it was cheating. But as time went on I began to internalize the shapes I was constructing, now I rely on the models less and less. In the end it seems to have enhanced my ability to draw from reference or imagination. Perhaps more than any other practice technique I've tried.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Dec 2021 05:02:55 No.5812177 Report

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>>5812170
Now this is a post that should be framed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Dec 2021 07:14:35 No.5812355 Report

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>>5811111
>Witnessed

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Dec 2021 17:16:35 No.5813010 Report

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>>5811116
not sure what was that anon talking about but how the fuck is your pointing finger so fucking short it's like you're missing a joint

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Dec 2021 17:19:14 No.5813014 Report

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>>5811143
You can always make regular coffee and drink it like the danish do. That is, add very little coffee to the bottom of a biiiig cup, and then add enormous amounts of milk. They make terrible coffee and this is the only way a human can consume it. But it gives you control over it, you can use 0% fat milk and something other than sugar for sweetness

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Dec 2021 17:23:09 No.5813026 Report

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>>5812170
I'm unironically about to go about drawing with models because of this, i want tell stories with my art not slave in the catacombs of figure drawing just to tell a story.

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Anonymous Wed 29 Dec 2021 15:49:03 No.5814812 Report

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>>5812170
There is no such thing as cheating. You use whatever tools you need to win.

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Anonymous Wed 29 Dec 2021 15:51:17 No.5814818 Report

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>>5810885
Look up Paolo Rivera's blog. Lots of examples.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Dec 2021 16:02:15 No.5814830 Report

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>>5812170
Yeah, it is a legit tool. You still have to study anatomy so you can accurately add more detail such as fat, muscles, clothes... You learn figure drawing while making the art you want instead of spending the same time to learn just the figure drawing.
Everyone need a ruler before they can draw a straight lines without it

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Dec 2021 16:25:12 No.5814866 Report

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>>5811090
>Gantz
>not look like shit
I'll admit the 3D models are well used but they still fuck it up with their backgrounds

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Anonymous Wed 29 Dec 2021 19:20:25 No.5815281 Report

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>>5810885
Found this article today. It's using physical models, but the work is so cute and soulful

https://www.theguardian.com/books/gallery/2018/jun/29/shaun-tans-cicada-a-meditation-on-belonging-and-bullying-in-pictures

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Dec 2021 21:11:19 No.5815479 Report

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>>5811107
>that don't look like shit
>those hands
lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Dec 2021 21:37:51 No.5815531 Report

Quoted By: >>5815538 >>5815555 >>5821615

https://twitter.com/bartolomeobari2
Pretty sure this guy uses 3D models and paints over them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Dec 2021 21:41:27 No.5815538 Report

Quoted By: >>5815554

>>5815531
Why are you pretty sure? What's the evidence or signs? Can you circle them for me?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Dec 2021 21:46:04 No.5815554 Report

Quoted By: >>5821615 >>5822058

>>5815538
https://twitter.com/bartolomeobari2/status/1333212422811815937
He posted them in the comments section before.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Dec 2021 21:46:59 No.5815555 Report

Quoted By: >>5815773 >>5815825

>>5815531
>only been drawing since 2019 and already made it
So this is the power of 3D models.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Dec 2021 00:13:56 No.5815758 Report

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>>5811107
Why don't they take the extra 10-20 minutes to sketch over the hands instead of tracing them.
All 3D model abusers have these super obvious sausage hands.

Even if your hand anatomy is weak, just having some kind of gesture would look better.
Feet on point tho.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Dec 2021 00:23:05 No.5815773 Report

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>>5815555
>created nsfw account in 2019 means he had never been drawing before
critical thinking skills, anon. Use them

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Dec 2021 00:58:46 No.5815825 Report

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>>5815555
actual retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Dec 2021 01:35:27 No.5815903 Report

Quoted By: >>5817029 >>5817346 >>5817406

>>5810885
Let's say you get the pose...then what? What about the clothing and accessories? The background? The narrative first and foremost?

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Anonymous Thu 30 Dec 2021 11:58:53 No.5816826 Report

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It's just a guess but Sayori might have started on 3D models considering how stiff the characters looked at the beginning.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Dec 2021 12:59:03 No.5816890 Report

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Tsugumomo srsly Hamada Yoshikazu is a god when it comes to using 3D models/real dolls/himself in frilly dresses kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Dec 2021 15:14:58 No.5817029 Report

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>>5815903
That shit is the easiest part

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Dec 2021 18:48:53 No.5817346 Report

Quoted By: >>5818855

>>5815903
I will draw my waifu bald and naked and jerk off to her

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Dec 2021 19:28:05 No.5817406 Report

Quoted By: >>5817708 >>5831904

>>5815903

Bruh, I found out CSP has a feature to make 2D linework out of 3D models. So the backgrounds are even EASIER with models, assuming you've got the assets for your scene. Here's a demo. https://youtu.be/aLYKCOnrRoc Skip to 7:46

If you plan on making a comic with the same location from different angles it could pay off to model it. I suppose you could even make a comic without drawing a single thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Dec 2021 22:53:09 No.5817708 Report

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>>5817406
I wouldn't recommend straightly tracing off the 3D dolls tho, the characters will look like shit if you won't reconstruct the forms with correct anatomy and gesture.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 31 Dec 2021 09:58:57 No.5818855 Report

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>>5817346
GMI

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 31 Dec 2021 23:45:55 No.5820016 Report

Quoted By: >>5820023 >>5820241

This girl has "cheated" her way up to almost 40k followers

https://twitter.com/onlyou718/status/1468355947189792769?t=dDap1EnegQqB2u0odsuORg

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 31 Dec 2021 23:48:03 No.5820023 Report

Quoted By: >>5821000

>>5820016
Nice. Followed. If you find anymore. I'd be glad to learn from them. All of these artists are quite good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jan 2022 01:51:32 No.5820241 Report

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>>5820016

I respect her. It must have taken a long fucking time just to pose those fucking bitches. If I could even get through that many poses, I would have run out ideas on how to pose that many characters.

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Anonymous Sat 01 Jan 2022 13:20:14 No.5821000 Report

Quoted By: >>5823632 >>5825349 >>5825467 >>5825575

>>5820023
>>5810885
https://instagram.com/marcoturiniart

This guy has hacked the system and just overpaints stolen 3D models with fancy watercolor textured brushes and made himself a big name in the western comicbook industry, making tons of bucks every year by creating ugly book covers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jan 2022 15:16:25 No.5821188 Report

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Prison School and Tsugumomo are two manga with incredible art that use this method.

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Anonymous Sat 01 Jan 2022 20:19:27 No.5821615 Report

Quoted By: >>5821629 >>5827986 >>5828814

>>5815554
>>5815531
so what software is this guy using?
>background took him 10 hours
I can't be the only one who thinks he inflates the numbers

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Jan 2022 20:23:07 No.5821629 Report

Quoted By: >>5822217 >>5831911

>>5821615
Look in the comments, he has stated that he uses Blender.

>background took him 10 hours
That's highly ineffective. This kind of background should take him 2-3 hours at most.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Jan 2022 00:12:50 No.5822058 Report

Quoted By: >>5822533

>>5815554
disappointing that that's the resulting illustration compared to the 3D. the people are so flat or obviously 3D.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Jan 2022 00:17:38 No.5822064 Report

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>>5811111
source?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Jan 2022 01:54:19 No.5822217 Report

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>>5821629
>This kind of background should take him 2-3 hours at most.
Dont be dumb.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Jan 2022 05:55:59 No.5822533 Report

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>>5822058
I really like the style actually.

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Anonymous Sun 02 Jan 2022 06:36:56 No.5822600 Report

Quoted By: >>5823621

>>5810885

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Anonymous Sun 02 Jan 2022 20:09:14 No.5823621 Report

Quoted By: >>5828805

>>5822600
What's the name of the manga?

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Anonymous Sun 02 Jan 2022 20:15:42 No.5823628 Report

Quoted By: >>5827539

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Anonymous Sun 02 Jan 2022 20:17:13 No.5823632 Report

Quoted By: >>5824673 >>5825575

>>5821000
How do you know that? Also this is the first time I've ever seen a restricted instagram account. Never once seen this in all my years.

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Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 08:14:26 No.5824673 Report

Quoted By: >>5825467 >>5825575

>>5823632
If you have looked at the process of this artwork, for example. The "lineart" part especially doesn't look convincing. Later my friend has also found the 3D model used for this.

https://www.artstation.com/artwork/d8lB3K

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Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 17:01:33 No.5825349 Report

Quoted By: >>5825467 >>5825575

>>5821000
his work gives that impression but there’s no accusations of it on twitter or instagram.

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Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 17:44:27 No.5825467 Report

Quoted By: >>5825575

>>5821000
>>5824673
>>5825349

He seems to know how to draw. Some of his works look really weird, though, and his painting process is really strange too.

https://www.instagram.com/p/B1lmYFYCFCT/

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Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 18:36:04 No.5825575 Report

Quoted By: >>5825776

>>5821000
>>5823632
>>5824673
>>5825349
>>5825467
He's a 3d sculptor and uses them for references.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 20:38:43 No.5825776 Report

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>>5825575
This seems like a weird reply though, who was the reference for the 3D model?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Jan 2022 01:21:34 No.5826339 Report

Quoted By: >>5827415 >>5827481

>>5810885
is this technique any good for 2d animation? Or will it always look rigid?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Jan 2022 09:58:57 No.5827415 Report

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>>5826339
You would need to know how to animate in 3D and make your own doll. These Clip Studio dolls do not have any feature of how you can effectively apply basic animation principles like squish&stretch deformation, exaggeration, etc. However, I think it could help you as a reference overlay to check if your proportions are correct in more difficult camera angles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Jan 2022 11:01:33 No.5827481 Report

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>>5826339
It could surely help you although I wouldn't rely 100% on the 3D models to avoid stiffness and unnatural movements. This use, for example, is quite decent:

https://twitter.com/sikikazuto/status/1476834007362932737

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Anonymous Tue 04 Jan 2022 11:22:12 No.5827493 Report

Quoted By: >>5827561

>>5810885
The software to create 3D models has been available and ready to run even on mid-tier computers for over a decade now. I always thought it would only be a matter of a few years for every artist on earth to follow this method but , it turns out people are 100x times more retarded than I thought. Then I realized. The type of people who get into art are sub 100 IQ monkeys who can't even understand the basic principles of a 3D package. You "artists" are so pathetic you have to steal 3D models, it reminds me of how in high school my classmates had to use a calculator to make even the simplest math operations.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Jan 2022 12:21:05 No.5827539 Report

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>>5823628
Has this author never worn jeans before?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Jan 2022 12:43:46 No.5827561 Report

Quoted By: >>5827625

>>5827493
pyw furfag

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Anonymous Tue 04 Jan 2022 13:24:06 No.5827625 Report

Quoted By: >>5827646 >>5827648 >>5827839

>>5827561
Listen zoomie, I'm not the retard who started a thread for being too retarded to do something as simple as knowing how to do a 3D model from scratch. You're the subhuman who came here expecting to get spoonfed despite this being something easily discoverable in google. The fact you can't do something as simple as this means you are clinically retarded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Jan 2022 13:45:39 No.5827646 Report

Quoted By: >>5827672

>>5827625
PYW or NGMI

also your ability to draw is not directly tied with intelligence. If yes, prove me wrong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Jan 2022 13:48:05 No.5827648 Report

Quoted By: >>5827672

>>5827625
having a bad day or something? try yoga and a cup of tea instead of being a dick on the internet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Jan 2022 14:03:13 No.5827672 Report

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>>5827646
>also your ability to draw is not directly tied with intelligence
But your ability to use 3D software is, dumbass
>>5827648
Hammering down westoids is funny tho

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Jan 2022 16:17:43 No.5827839 Report

Quoted By: >>5828524

>>5827625
i can't tell if you're trolling or if you're genuinely just this autistic. nobody gives a fuck if you make your own models or use premade ones. you're just going to be drawing/painting over them anyways, the point is to save time not spend more time.

Namefag

Namefag Tue 04 Jan 2022 16:35:21 No.5827857 Report

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<5827625
<5827493
Avatarfags are tarded! Cringe!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Jan 2022 18:19:11 No.5827968 Report

Quoted By: >>5827986

>>5810885
the 3d navigation in clip studip paint looks autistc. can somene recommend some good Posable base characters for blender?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Jan 2022 18:27:01 No.5827978 Report

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>>5810885
EVERYONE had to or uses models, be it 3d, 2d or live. You only stop using references when drawing the same shit you've drawn thousands of times

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Anonymous Tue 04 Jan 2022 18:32:14 No.5827986 Report

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>>5827968
looking for the ones on this pic >>5821615

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Anonymous Tue 04 Jan 2022 19:07:11 No.5828038 Report

Quoted By: >>5828725

>>5810885

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Anonymous Wed 05 Jan 2022 00:01:47 No.5828524 Report

Quoted By: >>5828994

>>5827839
Stealing models from someone else is the absolute proof your IQ is way beneath 100
Filthy westoid

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Jan 2022 01:35:47 No.5828725 Report

Quoted By: >>5828731 >>5828811

>>5828038
This isn't tracing motherfucking permabeg

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Anonymous Wed 05 Jan 2022 01:38:35 No.5828731 Report

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>>5828725
Did I say anything about tracing you schizo? OP asked for good examples of 3D for 2D and I did just that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Jan 2022 02:12:42 No.5828805 Report

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>>5823621
innocent would be my guess, not positive.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Jan 2022 02:16:02 No.5828811 Report

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>>5828725
might as well be, feels like anon hit a sensitive spot. Maybe stop relying on crutches so hard. Draw a kangeroo perhaps.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Jan 2022 02:19:22 No.5828814 Report

Quoted By: >>5828978

>>5821615
What program is this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Jan 2022 04:17:27 No.5828978 Report

Quoted By:

>>5828814
blender

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Jan 2022 04:30:29 No.5828994 Report

Quoted By: >>5829083 >>5834194

>>5828524
it's not stealing if the creators literally put them out there for the purpose of being used.
>westoid
just admit you don't draw and are just here for the shitty chink porn and gtfo furfag

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Anonymous Wed 05 Jan 2022 05:51:38 No.5829083 Report

Quoted By: >>5829096 >>5829165 >>5829168

>>5828994
>it's not stealing if the creators literally put them out there for the purpose of being used
If you're making profit from an asset that was not specifically sold to you, then its stealing. Westoids are like this all the time, coming up with excuses for stealing. Filthy goblins.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Jan 2022 06:06:22 No.5829096 Report

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>>5829083

>asset that was not sold/licensed to you/public domain, then its stealing

Fixed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Jan 2022 07:36:36 No.5829165 Report

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>>5829083
so you use clippaintstudio because you can't afford adobe? filthy pajeet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Jan 2022 07:38:44 No.5829168 Report

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>>5829083
wtf do you think 'for the purpose of being used' means? not all models are bought or sold either, CC/CC0 exists you igit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Jan 2022 16:00:51 No.5831904 Report

Quoted By: >>5834190

>>5817406
Is this Jake a man or a woman?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Jan 2022 16:04:34 No.5831911 Report

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>>5821629
That background should take less than 15 minutes actually, if the "artist" here didn't make all the props himself.
I like the clothsim though. Pretty well thought

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Jan 2022 15:56:49 No.5834190 Report

Quoted By: >>5835881

>>5831904

I think they consider themselves non-binary, but I would say by subject matter, art style, and voice, it's a biological female.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Jan 2022 15:59:13 No.5834194 Report

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>>5828994
>its ok to kill people with this knife, it was made for that purpose!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jan 2022 10:57:36 No.5835878 Report

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wlop

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Anonymous Sat 08 Jan 2022 11:01:15 No.5835881 Report

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>>5834190
"non-binary" 99% of the time means tomboy

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jan 2022 12:21:13 No.5835959 Report

Quoted By: >>5835965

>>5810885
Can you learn something by tracing 3D models or is it a waste of time?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jan 2022 12:29:33 No.5835965 Report

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>>5835959
Try it and tell us.

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