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Why did they make Harley be in love with Ivy?

Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 16:41:00 2022 No.130236673 View Reply Original Report

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I don't see any chemistry and Ivy basically treats her like shit in every comic and even the show. How the fuck did this "ship" start and gain so much popularity?

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Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2022 17:13:00 No.130237155 Report

Quoted By: >>130237170

>>130236833
It is less but it's still pretty bad at times. Joker does what he does on purpose. Ivy meanwhile has anger issues. The amount of shit she put up with from Harley (the hyenas pissing on everything alone) shows how much she does genuinely care. Ultimately they complimented each other incredibly well. Harley prying open Ivy's heart and Ivy being a restraint on Harley. Best you can hope for really with psychopathic villains.

>>130237079
>>130237104
Yep. A pale imitation. But it's somewhat tolerable at least.

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Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2022 17:13:54 No.130237170 Report

Quoted By: >>130237207

>>130237155
>But it's somewhat tolerable at least.
I pray that my tolerance levels for shit never gets to this stage.

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Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2022 17:15:26 No.130237195 Report

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>>130237036
then do you like attractive people from your same gender?

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Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2022 17:16:05 No.130237207 Report

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>>130237170
Well, more the side characters but that said, you will reach that point one day yourself. Age gets to you eventually.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2022 17:17:03 No.130237221 Report

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>>130237207
I'm 53, and I can't sit through hackish garbage simply because it's based on an IP I've been a fan of for a long time.

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Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2022 17:18:16 No.130237238 Report

Quoted By: >>130237294

>>130237221
Jesus, you have a decade on me then. How do you still have passion for anything at this point?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2022 17:18:30 No.130237241 Report

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>>130236708
>>130236673
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1SmxVCM39j4

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2022 17:19:51 No.130237259 Report

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>>130236673
>Ivy wearing white on her wedding day

Oof...

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Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2022 17:19:59 No.130237261 Report

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>>130236673
Its hot while still being progressive. Even the most hardcore far right guy isn't gonna complain about seeing two hot women fuck each other.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2022 17:22:08 No.130237294 Report

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>>130237238
I find new stuff to enjoy watching/reading all the tiime. Lately it's been the original John Carter novels, Dungeon Meshi and The Goon.
I've long ago accepted that many of the things I loved in the 80's won't ever be good again, don't honestly deserve another retread, and set them aside with fond memories.
It has been a long while since Batman-related shit has really been worth the trouble.

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Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2022 17:23:18 No.130237304 Report

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>>130237261
>seeing two hot women fuck each other.
You must be referring to some other "adult" property. Totally Spies has more sexual content than that shitshow.

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Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2022 17:23:50 No.130237310 Report

Quoted By: >>130237339

I’m happy they’re not together currently in comic canon

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Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2022 17:24:55 No.130237328 Report

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>>130236673
I'm tired of these revisionist meme that Ivy treated Harley like shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2022 17:25:22 No.130237339 Report

Quoted By: >>130237353

>>130237310
DC doesn't have a Canon anymore, just like their movies. It's just "what shit will sell".
They could do a Sunstone-esque story with them next month under some Black Label shittery, though it still wouldn't have tiddies.

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Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2022 17:26:13 No.130237353 Report

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>>130237339
You basically took a long to say absolutely nothing.

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Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2022 17:28:06 No.130237382 Report

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>>130237353
DC doesn't have "canon". They've publicly abandoned "continuity" as a concept. everything is legit.
Is that too complicated for you?

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Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2022 17:30:00 No.130237404 Report

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>>130237104
It used to work for me when characters like Batman are still taking things seriously in Season 1. In season 1, Harley recognizes that the Queen of Fables is lying about how Superman took her down because she knows Superman isn't so brutal but later Superman is a jerk that would put someone in the Phantom Zone in the drop of the hat.

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Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2022 17:30:12 No.130237410 Report

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>>130237382
Except there’s clearly still a main canon, shill

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Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2022 17:32:45 No.130237441 Report

Quoted By: >>130237484 >>130237572

>>130237410
Nope, just long arcs by certain writers, who then leave, and some new hack throws everything on it's head, rinse repeat.
Superman is dating Lois
>writer change
Superman has a kid with Lois who's almost a decade old
>writer change
Superman has a 20-something son who's been raised by sociopaths and is now a homo
>writer change
Who knows?

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Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2022 17:34:16 No.130237457 Report

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>>130237382
You do know that having comics outside of main universe existed for years? In Harley main comic they are not together.

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Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2022 17:35:11 No.130237471 Report

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My best guess is a complete reboot/reset of Superman, with a 49% chance of him always being a black man raised by loving parents in whatever passes for Harlem in Metropolis.

And still this faggot will be "BUT THERE IS A CONTINUITY!"

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Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2022 17:35:51 No.130237484 Report

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>>130237441
How does any of this contradict each other?

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Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2022 17:37:01 No.130237504 Report

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>>130237457
Yes, I'm aware that DC has used the contrivance of "multiversity" to do stories outside of their boring-as-fuck status quo for ages.
Can't sully Batman's IP with actual story/character progression after all.

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Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2022 17:40:18 No.130237556 Report

Quoted By: >>130237572 >>130237586 >>130237706

>>130237484
Superman starts out as a Kansas boy raised by compassionate and conservative farm-parents
>suddenly
Now he's a guy who's ok with letting psychos run off with his only child
It's on par with Peter Parker selling his child's very existence to prevent a 90-ish granny from dying.
Actual Superman would be talking to various people with time-treadmills/wizardry/cosmic bullshit to undo his son's years of abuse.

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Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2022 17:41:02 No.130237568 Report

Quoted By: >>130237636

>>130236969
Honestly even back in the days of their old characterizations I don't think them having some kind of "bad girl" romance worked. Old Harley and Ivy were at their best together as a comedy duo, with Ivy just barely tolerating Harley's shenanigans because she could always use an extra set of hands.
Sure, have them fuck on the side if you really must for the cheesecake. I like seeing two hot women getting it on as much as the next guy, but having them in an actual romantic relationship ruins their chemistry.

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Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2022 17:41:28 No.130237572 Report

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>>130237441
>>130237556
That’s still the same canon, retard. And before Death Metal too

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2022 17:42:20 No.130237586 Report

Quoted By: >>130237619 >>130237659

>>130237556
The conservative part may vary because Golden Age Superman was the champion of the New Deal and its detractors accused FDR of selling America to the commies. To be fair, Golden Age Superman was an orphan

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Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2022 17:44:19 No.130237619 Report

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>>130237586
There is a considerable difference between "My homeworld had an accident and I was raised by foster parents" and "I'll let my son be raised by criminal masterminds, it will build character".

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Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2022 17:45:52 No.130237636 Report

Quoted By: >>130237690 >>130240433

>>130237568
>>130236969
I miss these two so much, i guess you could say they got Flanderized to the extreme to the point no one remember the OGs anymore.

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Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2022 17:46:43 No.130237658 Report

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>>130237328
It’s not revisionist though

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Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2022 17:46:50 No.130237659 Report

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>>130237586
>its detractors accused FDR of selling America to the commies.
Of course, he was taxing enormously wealthy people and using the money to build a safety net for working people living on the edge of poverty.\
We all know that's Pure Evil and Gommunism, I just saw an ad funded by the rich telling me so.

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Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2022 17:47:51 No.130237673 Report

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>>130236673
They suppose to be wacky free spirit and straight man bitch duo.

A bit flanderized in new 52 run. Ain’t bad if you got good writers.

All I know I get a free side salad with my clussy.

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Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2022 17:49:26 No.130237690 Report

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>>130237636
I hate to be the old man to say this but kids today they don’t know.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2022 17:50:26 No.130237701 Report

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I think if we were 100% honest with ourselves, both the Harley Quinn show and making Harley a superhero were terrible mistakes.
The show was an Adult Comedy that managed to be less adult than a daytime anime tv show, and less funny than The Cleveland Show.

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Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2022 17:50:29 No.130237706 Report

Quoted By: >>130237730 >>130238055

>>130237556
Stop calling Supermans conservative he is a Social Justice warrior that fights racism.

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Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2022 17:51:46 No.130237730 Report

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>>130237706
But I've heard that the REAL oppressed are teh whyte peepo.

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Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2022 18:12:32 No.130238049 Report

Quoted By: >>130241544

>>130236729
It's been a while since Joker was the best thing about anything he's involved with, but he really was the best part of the Harley Quinn Show
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raaTXyXXsDM

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Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2022 18:12:49 No.130238055 Report

Quoted By: >>130238409

>>130237706
That post didn't call superman conservative, it called his parents conservative. Which they are, that's the whole point. Super powered alien who can kill everyone or rule the planet as a god, but chooses to help and do good because he was raised by a kind couple with good old fashioned 'american values'. The the core of superman. I don't think he is a republican or anything, and he definitely stands up for the weak and fights injustice; but the very notion that old fashioned 'american values' are a good thing is conservative. Your Pavlovian response of typing racism every time you see the word conservative makes you seem like a real dummy.

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Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2022 18:34:27 No.130238409 Report

Quoted By: >>130238989

>>130238055
I don't like when people say that Superman have a racist ideology.

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Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2022 18:53:30 No.130238709 Report

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>>130236673
bump

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Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2022 19:10:51 No.130238989 Report

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>>130238409
>HURR IT RASIS
>why?
>DUHHH BECAUSE ME AM NO LIKE!!!1!

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Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2022 19:12:01 No.130239011 Report

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>>130236673
>Ivy treats her like shit
Because it is exatcly the same dynamic as with the Joker except it is woker/hotter because it is lesbian.

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Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2022 19:28:30 No.130239295 Report

Quoted By: >>130239738

Harley and Ivy seem like good butt buddies but a full on relationship, like in the show seems like a recipe for disaster.

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Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2022 19:52:00 No.130239738 Report

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>>130239295
>but a full on relationship, like in the show seems like a recipe for disaster.
And that's not even getting into how they screwed over based Kite-Man (Hell Yeah) who genuinely did nothing wrong and are treated as the heroes for doing so

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2022 20:28:59 No.130240433 Report

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>>130237636
Timm and Dini deserved better

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2022 21:07:42 No.130241240 Report

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>>130236673
It's been around since the 90's cartoon, even before Harley was formally introduced into mainstream continuity. The show is just way more crass about it.

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Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2022 21:16:15 No.130241428 Report

Quoted By: >>130241505

>>130236673
They started off as opposites that couldn't get along and after a while became really close friends. Romance just happened later on and it has been teased for decades.

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Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2022 21:20:32 No.130241505 Report

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>>130241428
That’s not them teasing it that’s them making fun of the idea and shitting on it

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Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2022 21:22:29 No.130241544 Report

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>>130238049
HQ Joker found a nice balance between le edge and camp. That's very difficult. The last time was the early seasons of BTAS.

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Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2022 21:22:59 No.130241556 Report

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>>130236673
It's a fetish.

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