>>9896780>but mathematicians pretend that shit "really" "existsMathematicians usually don't claim their ideas exist in a physical sense (but there probably are some), but almost all of them try to *imagine* them as real to better be able to work with them, that is not the same as claiming they are physical. Mathematics studies precise ideas in a formal manner. If a mathematician claims one of these ideas to be real, it is a claim outside the realm of mathematics, hence not a mathematical claim. Per definition such claims cannot exist in mathematics. You are free to call the mathematicians that make such claims for pseudoscientists, but a piece of math cannot be pseudoscience.