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what are birbs?

Anonymous Thu 13 Jun 21:31:45 2019 No.10722665 View Reply Original Report

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>increased neuron density
>able to see more colors than humans including ultraviolet
>advanced more efficient respiratory system
>able to fly

In every way except for 1 (opposable thumbs) birds are more advanced than us.
Are birds more evolved than humans?

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Anonymous Thu 13 Jun 2019 21:34:57 No.10722679 Report

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>>10722665
>In every way except for 1 (opposable thumbs) birds are more advanced than us.
I've never seen ducks go people hunting.

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Anonymous Thu 13 Jun 2019 21:37:21 No.10722683 Report

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Anonymous Thu 13 Jun 2019 21:40:17 No.10722692 Report

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>>10722665
you flaunt with facts about superior birbs eye sight,
however both pictures are the same.
you're full of shit OP

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jun 2019 21:50:52 No.10722714 Report

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>>10722665
Define "more evolved". The point of evolution isn't to create more and better complicated biomachines. It's to create things that are better at surviving in their environment. If you can show that birds are better suited for surving in their environment than humans, I'd be willing to agree with you. Also, the word "birds" refers to thousands of species while "humans" refers to one, so I think a fair comparison would scale back the scope.

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Anonymous Thu 13 Jun 2019 22:00:03 No.10722736 Report

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>>10722665
Not really true, there is just one extra color channel, that won't make a black bird look rainbow colored. (and the colors may seem somewhat different, as the channels are actually something like UV, indigo, torquoise, yellow-green, rather than RGB.

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Anonymous Thu 13 Jun 2019 22:01:15 No.10722738 Report

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>>10722714
Birds survived the last major extinction event on the planet. Humans probably won't survive this next one we amde ourselves, but biurds probably will.

Birds: 2

Humans:-1 for jumping off the map

Also, birds have fractal skin appendages, mammals don't. That's one more level of complexity up from us. Complexity, not complicatedness, is what leads to better adaptability. Complexity has to do with synergy of forms and functions. Complexity is efficiency and sustainability.

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Anonymous Thu 13 Jun 2019 22:10:31 No.10722766 Report

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>>10722714
Kind of false, organisms with more simplistic reproductive and survival strategies are selected against. There's a reason why vascular, specifically eudicot plants are so prolific as opposed to ferns and non-vascular plants, they have more coping strategies for drought and loss of parts of the plant. Similar ideas are found in the extinction of every marsupial outside of Australia, they were outcompeted and their reproduction strategy is simply not in the same league as placental mammals. The only exception I see really is insects.

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Anonymous Thu 13 Jun 2019 23:40:13 No.10722942 Report

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>>10722738
>fractal skin appendage

what?

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Anonymous Fri 14 Jun 2019 00:37:12 No.10723081 Report

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>>10722714
Humans are shit and gay.

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Anonymous Fri 14 Jun 2019 00:40:58 No.10723093 Report

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>>10722766
anaerobes are still the gods of this earth

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Anonymous Fri 14 Jun 2019 00:50:58 No.10723120 Report

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>>10722665
They even have the ability to appreciate art and aesthetics

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Anonymous Fri 14 Jun 2019 00:53:09 No.10723123 Report

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>>10722665
??? both pictures look the same

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Anonymous Fri 14 Jun 2019 07:20:39 No.10723874 Report

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>>10722679
i have

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Anonymous Fri 14 Jun 2019 07:54:56 No.10723938 Report

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>>10722665
Creatures we should clearly hybridize ourselves with

Also the only reason mammals can't see UV is because we were nocturnal for a while and lost that ability. Even the ability to see red, as it doesn't show well in the dark. The only reason apes can see it is because we started eating fruit and seeing red was helpful. But birds were never forced to be nocturnal.

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Anonymous Fri 14 Jun 2019 08:13:45 No.10723973 Report

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>>10722665
They evolved more compact brains to reduce weight for flight.

Respiratory system also for flight because flying is cardio intensive work. Though I haven't heard they have that trait before it makes obvious sense why they would have it.

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Anonymous Fri 14 Jun 2019 23:57:41 No.10725413 Report

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>>10722665
Obligatory
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgCmotgySdU

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Anonymous Sat 15 Jun 2019 10:21:02 No.10726293 Report

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>>10723973
>Respiratory system also for flight because flying is cardio intensive work. Though I haven't heard they have that trait before it makes obvious sense why they would have it.
it's likely older than that. crocodiles have a respiratory system resembling birds' more than those of lizards. the economic hypothesis is that all archosaurids had this arrangement, all dinosaurs, pterosaurs etc., and that it originated with the temporary drop of atmospheric oxygen percentage during the permian.

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Anonymous Sat 15 Jun 2019 19:09:36 No.10727111 Report

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Owls have excellent vision and hearing, both of which help them excel at nighttime hunting. In addition, the cover of darkness helps nocturnal owls avoid predators, as well as to attack prey, principally because their feathers hardly make any noise when they fly, Devokaitis said.Sep 19, 2016

Does anyone know sth about owls vision by night?

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Anonymous Sat 15 Jun 2019 19:28:35 No.10727150 Report

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>>10726293
>archosaurids had this arrangement, all dinosaurs, pterosaurs etc.

So the debate on how large dinosaurs could oxygenate their brains is solved by them having blood that's supersaturated with oxygen due to extremely efficient respiratory systems?
Would they require better blood for this to work? Does that mean dinosaurs had a different type of blood capable of containing this super high oxygen content?

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Anonymous Sat 15 Jun 2019 20:27:36 No.10727273 Report

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>>10727150
nah they probably just had more red blood cells. oxygen concentration was higher at the time too

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Anonymous Sat 15 Jun 2019 20:33:42 No.10727284 Report

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>>10722665

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Anonymous Sat 15 Jun 2019 21:14:56 No.10727366 Report

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>>10727284
absolutely based

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Anonymous Sat 15 Jun 2019 21:22:15 No.10727384 Report

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>>10723120
This is important, humans evolving to dislike art and aesthetics is causing current decadence, those humans without taste will be the first to disappear

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Anonymous Sun 16 Jun 2019 18:24:00 No.10729636 Report

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>>10722665
I love birbs, I happen to own many birbs myself- but in terms of biology humans are far superior.

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Anonymous Sun 16 Jun 2019 18:30:06 No.10729653 Report

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>>10729636
As someone who had an interest in methods like ant colony optimization, I hate this shit. There's a bunch of (supposedly legitimate) places that you can publish in pretty easily if you take some existing optimization algorithm, tweak it slightly, and then say it's based on a thing in nature.

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Anonymous Sun 16 Jun 2019 18:30:15 No.10729654 Report

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>blackbirds living in green areas around home
>they go full car alarm if they spot a cat
>one fucker went on for 10 minutes at 4 in the morning
Makes you wish for a softgun or something.

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