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Anonymous Thu 31 Jan 02:19:09 2019 No.10343479 View Reply Original Report

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Why do they call it climate change now instead of global warming?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Jan 2019 02:23:20 No.10343487 Report

Quoted By: >>10348559

>>10343479
becuase its a tug of war between oil lobbyists and slimy liberals and they will say whatever the fuck gets them money

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Jan 2019 02:24:55 No.10343490 Report

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>>10343479
Because it got so thoroughly debunked that they had to rebrand it to perpetuate the lie.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Jan 2019 02:28:27 No.10343493 Report

Quoted By: >>10343690 >>10348330

>>10343479
Because dumb people only understand the weather locally and can't get an average temperature increase globally through their thick heads. The secondary effect of global warming is climate change.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Jan 2019 02:33:36 No.10343501 Report

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>>10343479
there is a hypothetical scenario whereby increased water levels from temporary global warming disrupt the gulf stream. this would cause basically an ice age throughout north america (as far south as, say, new york) and northern europe. that is just one example that shows how rapid (the rate is unprecedented) disruptions in the "climate" could lead to many unpredictable catastrophic turns of events

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Jan 2019 04:00:33 No.10343690 Report

Quoted By: >>10345067

>>10343479
The actual answer is that global warming is only one part of climate change. Everyone else in this thread is retarded except
>>10343493

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Anonymous Thu 31 Jan 2019 04:19:56 No.10343733 Report

Quoted By: >>10345409

Because "climate change" means that a cold snap or hurricane can STILL be blamed on white countries not paying enough money to various people

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Jan 2019 08:41:07 No.10344192 Report

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>>10343479
The UN setup the IPCC (Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change) back in 1988. The term was being used by scientists for decades before then. Global warming was just a catchier name that was popular in the media for awhile. Remember when higgs boson was always being called the "god particle"

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Anonymous Thu 31 Jan 2019 17:33:21 No.10345067 Report

Quoted By: >>10348288

>>10343690
>one part of climate change is global warming
>one part of global warming is climate change
hmmmm

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Jan 2019 17:34:46 No.10345072 Report

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>>10343479
Because people don’t understand how the climate warming could mean worse cold weather.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Jan 2019 17:36:29 No.10345078 Report

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The brand global warming was no longer credible so they changed names

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Jan 2019 17:40:26 No.10345087 Report

Quoted By: >>10348330

Increase in greenhouse gases leads to global warming, global warming leads to climate change. Climate change leads to natural disasters and collapse of ecosystems we rely on to survive.

If the only effect was that all temperatures would go up by a few degrees, no one would really care. Winter a little less cold, summer a little hotter, no big deal. But it's the climate change that's going to fuck us all over, and it's already started.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Jan 2019 17:55:52 No.10345121 Report

Quoted By: >>10348330

>>10343479
Because global warming has bad connotations.
Climate change doesn't.
The word change implies that it is something just happening and out of our control.
The word global warming would mean that it is our fault and within our power to fix it.

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Anonymous Thu 31 Jan 2019 19:34:33 No.10345340 Report

Quoted By: >>10345360 >>10348330

Because of shit like this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Jan 2019 19:43:51 No.10345360 Report

Quoted By: >>10348297 >>10348330

>>10345340
Didnt murica experience the 2nd hottest summer ever registered last year?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Jan 2019 20:01:06 No.10345401 Report

Quoted By: >>10348330 >>10348563

>Global warming
>huur it's cold where i live derpy derp
>... Climate change
>hurrrr moving the goalpost much
>...
What do you even respond /sci/

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Anonymous Thu 31 Jan 2019 20:02:54 No.10345409 Report

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>>10343733

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Anonymous Fri 01 Feb 2019 10:29:17 No.10347345 Report

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>>10343479
>Why do they call it climate change now instead of global warming?
They don't. Both terms have always been used roughly interchangeably in public discussions.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Feb 2019 10:31:34 No.10347350 Report

Quoted By: >>10348330

>>10347345
GW is global (duh)
CC is local, like the current cold snap

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Feb 2019 11:53:46 No.10347488 Report

Quoted By: >>10348330

>>10343479
They started calling it climate change because the average dumbfucks were thinking things like "it's cold today, so there is no global warming", it's just a way to make it more accessible to the average person.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Feb 2019 18:46:55 No.10348288 Report

Quoted By: >>10348330

>>10345067
climate change means the changing of the climate.
global warming, (the warming of the climate) is a step in the changing of the climate.
Or: global warming is a part of climate change.
Can you understand that you fucking brainlet?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Feb 2019 18:49:14 No.10348297 Report

Quoted By: >>10348315 >>10348330

>>10345360
>2nd hottest summer
Vs
>1st coldest winter
Yeah, I’m thinking it’s not getting warmer

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Feb 2019 18:53:43 No.10348315 Report

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>>10348297
Based /tv/poster who dropped out of IT school

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Anonymous Fri 01 Feb 2019 18:57:40 No.10348330 Report

Quoted By: >>10348358

>>10343479 >>10343493
Normal Summer
CNN: "global waaaarming, REEEE"
CNN: "hot-weather = hot-climate"

Coldest winter ever
CNN: "climate chaaaange, REEEE"
CNN: "cold-weather = hot-climate"

>>10348315 >>10348297 >>10348288 >>10347488 >>10347350 >>10347345 >>10345409 >>10345401 >>10345360 >>10345340 >>10345121 >>10345087

https://youtu.be/MsioIw4bvzI

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Anonymous Fri 01 Feb 2019 19:05:21 No.10348358 Report

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>>10348330
I don't think you actually believe this.
I literally ran a linear regression analysis on temperatures since 1900s to present and they showed a 1 centigrade increase where I live counting all the variations.
You're a troll and rednecks are irl trolls.
Trump believes it but trolls both sides by pretending to not believe in global warming. His golf course in Ireland was seen compensating for rising sea level.s

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Feb 2019 19:09:11 No.10348365 Report

Quoted By: >>10350160

Even if you don't care about climate change, what about the depletion of finite resources? Surely we should start phasing out coal in favor of renewables?

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Anonymous Fri 01 Feb 2019 19:10:34 No.10348370 Report

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>>10343479

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Anonymous Fri 01 Feb 2019 19:11:37 No.10348372 Report

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>>10348370

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Anonymous Fri 01 Feb 2019 19:14:10 No.10348379 Report

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>>10348372
CIA banned books showing that the North Pole would be shifting soon. The whole story of carbon dioxide being the reasoning for shifts of temperature is 100% bullshit

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Feb 2019 20:13:15 No.10348542 Report

Quoted By: >>10348566

>>10343479

The George W. Bush administration coined the term "climate change" to make global warming sound less threatening.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Feb 2019 20:21:49 No.10348559 Report

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>>10343487
This. The same people who think it's a massive problem worth throwing billions at and concerning the most powerful people in the world also want to reduce it to such a simple concept that the masses will just throw money at it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Feb 2019 20:23:42 No.10348563 Report

Quoted By: >>10348582

>>10345401
Why can't they come up with a name that describes the phenomenon properly before suggesting that people pay out of their own pockets to solve the problem? You don't even know how to define the problem and you want to propose taxes on carbon emissions to reduce it? Fuck off.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Feb 2019 20:25:01 No.10348566 Report

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>>10348542
Odd how a bloodthirsty neocon with shady morals came up with a better descriptive term than scientists.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Feb 2019 20:29:58 No.10348582 Report

Quoted By: >>10348598

>>10348563
>Why can't they come up with a name that describes the phenomenon properly before suggesting that people pay out of their own pockets to solve the problem?
"Anthropogenic global warming" is apt.
>You don't even know how to define the problem and you want to propose taxes on carbon emissions to reduce it? Fuck off.
Taxing consumption of GHG emitting fuels is a good start to decarbonization.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Feb 2019 20:39:59 No.10348598 Report

Quoted By: >>10348602 >>10348733

>>10348582
What is this logic that putting a tax on something will just completely dissuade people from doing that thing? Even if that was sound logic, blindly throwing money at a problem isn't the solution. It's shortsighted and breeds contempt.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Feb 2019 20:42:02 No.10348602 Report

Quoted By: >>10348642

>>10348598
because it costs more to use?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Feb 2019 20:59:49 No.10348642 Report

Quoted By: >>10348703

>>10348602
>businesses pay more tax
>business compensate with higher priced goods
>consumer pays more for goods
Wow I can feel the earth getting cleaner already

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Feb 2019 21:05:47 No.10348656 Report

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>>10348370
I love how you're trying to argue that this warming is nothing out of the ordinary, but even in your graph the current extremely rapid warming is obvious as a near vertical line upwards.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Feb 2019 21:22:33 No.10348703 Report

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>>10348642
Yeah? Unlimited energy economy was always a lie.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Feb 2019 21:31:20 No.10348733 Report

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>>10348598
Because it actually works
https://youtu.be/6fV6eeckxTs

Because there is competition, companies can't just put up prices unless they all agree to, which is known as price fixing. Instead they will find ways to reduce the impact of the tax.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Feb 2019 22:54:56 No.10348891 Report

Quoted By: >>10348951 >>10348954

>warm winters and melting ice caps are the proof that man-made greenhouse effect increases global tempratures dangerously
>cold winters are expected, greenhouse effect makes warm warmer and cold colder
Yo guys, we should BTFO, we aren't trained climatologists. We will never understand how it's possible that same phenomenon can have two contradicting effects on the climate - as long at it fits certain political/economical narrative.

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Anonymous Fri 01 Feb 2019 23:19:28 No.10348951 Report

Quoted By: >>10350115

>>10348891
Just because the currently winter is cold where you are doesn't mean that winters are colder.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Feb 2019 23:22:05 No.10348954 Report

Quoted By: >>10350115

>>10348891
The system is collapsing. It won't necessarily mean that winters will be warm. It could be cold up north and then deserts in the south

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Anonymous Sat 02 Feb 2019 09:16:04 No.10350115 Report

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>>10348951
>>10348954
>man-made greenhouse gases increase the temperatures by trapping energy from the Sun
>except sometimes they stop doing that but that's normal because climatologists say so
OK, I'm stupid but I'm not THAT stupid

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Feb 2019 09:26:41 No.10350133 Report

Quoted By: >>10350143 >>10350144 >>10350259

>>10343479
It is called climate change because the data doesn't show the earth is heating up, but rather that it goes through natural cycles with minimal or no impact from human sources.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Feb 2019 09:38:39 No.10350143 Report

Quoted By: >>10350148

>>10350133
Wrong. The earth is demonstrably warming, and this current warming trend is proven to be caused by human CO2

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Feb 2019 09:38:48 No.10350144 Report

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>>10350133
>data doesn't show
sure bud
http://www.climate-lab-book.ac.uk/files/2016/05/spiral_optimized.gif

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Feb 2019 09:39:40 No.10350146 Report

Quoted By: >>10350149

>>10343479
Because the effects of climate change are literally unpredictable. The climate is too complex of a system to make any kind of meaningful prediction. We can predict aspects of the climate, but not what that actually means for the environment as a whole.

Climate hysteria is just a good way for environmental scientists to get money for research, for corporations to virtue signal to upper-middle class people, and for politicians to earn votes and haggle their competition.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Feb 2019 09:39:42 No.10350147 Report

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>>10343479
Who is “they”? That never happened. Climate change is due to global warming.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Feb 2019 09:40:01 No.10350148 Report

Quoted By: >>10350152

>>10350143
Wrong. That is why they are on their back foot again for the last forty years. They just want to use taxes to burden and destabilize poor countries.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Feb 2019 09:40:59 No.10350149 Report

Quoted By: >>10350154

>>10350146
retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Feb 2019 09:42:37 No.10350152 Report

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>>10350148
come out of the barrel, billy-bob

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Feb 2019 09:43:24 No.10350154 Report

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>>10350149
not an argument, pablo

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Feb 2019 09:51:42 No.10350160 Report

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>>10348365
well yeah, but as the supply decreases, the price will rise and other sources will become more financially viable. It's so inevitable that no one needs to give a fuck and it'll still happen. If it's hard times during the transition whoopdyfuckingdoo it'll probably trigger another renaissance

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Anonymous Sat 02 Feb 2019 11:01:33 No.10350259 Report

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>>10350133
>the data doesn't show the earth is heating up
Are you retarded?

>but rather that it goes through natural cycles with minimal or no impact from human sources.
The observed warming is attributable to none of the natural cycles. It's measurable due to the increase atmospheric CO2 concentrations, which is caused by human activity.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Feb 2019 23:07:02 No.10351920 Report

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>>10343479
The latter got debunked so they had to fabricate a new hoax

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Feb 2019 23:13:59 No.10351939 Report

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>>10343479
Because they realized, that temperature is not whole climate.

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