>>10200293>You are confusing the numerals for the numbers and the operations.I am not. numbers and operations are abstracts with no absolute real world precursor
you can have a stone in one hand and another in your other hand. when you bring these together, you can say you now have 2 stones, a sum of 1 and 1. but that's all abstraction. just because your actions followed the pattern of the mathematical equaltion 1+1=2 does not make it 1+1=2, that itself is an abstract idea
>We did not "define" addition that way, addition already exists as an operation, we just used those symbols to encapsulate it.we defined the operation and the symbols
>The actual computation and the math, is both objective and separate from human beings. it is seperate from us, (as we are a part of this world that math is not) but it is our creation none-the-less
>Yes, a true perfect circle both can and does exist - in the Ideal Realm.sure, so what. what of 'the ideal realm' fails to be 'the realm of human ideals'
we can idealize a circle, the perfect collection of points all a fixed distance from a center, and that ideal circle would have an are pi*r^2, but this idealized circle, along with all else that exists in the ideal realm, is a product of humanity
